Rocking Horse Poo

[husaberg]

Anyone ever seen one of these. I have seen the bikes, but never the parts book.
http://www16.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/manuals-magazines/auction-1044559168.htm
I am not sure what was the total production for the Moutain Goat and Farmbyke.

[sidecar bob]

I had a mint sales brochure for them somewhere.
Carl from Taupo (sowhatsnew on trademe) knows about this kind of thing. His father was heavily involved in the industry & also the manufacture of mountain goat at the time.

[jellywrestler]

I had a mint sales brochure for them somewhere.
Carl from Taupo (sowhatsnew on trademe) knows about this kind of thing. His father was heavily involved in the industry & also the manufacture of mountain goat at the time.

this was kawasaki powered, i think the early ones were suzuki and johhny callender had a lot to do with them, they were made in waitara at motor holdings plant? from memory suzuki then started making farm bikes so no longer would supply engines to a competitor.

[husaberg]

I had a mint sales brochure for them somewhere.
Carl from Taupo (sowhatsnew on trademe) knows about this kind of thing. His father was heavily involved in the industry & also the manufacture of mountain goat at the time.


this was kawasaki powered, i think the early ones were suzuki and johhny callender had a lot to do with them, they were made in waitara at motor holdings plant? from memory suzuki then started making farm bikes so no longer would supply engines to a competitor.

I have a road test on the 120 Suzuki powered one here somewhere.
I have never figured out if the farmbyke and the mountain goat were actually the same people or just a later model name.
The few (two) mountain goats I have seen were all Kawaskis 90's.
The old man had the guts of one at one stage. He probably still does.

http://pukeariki.com/Learning-Research/Taranaki-Research-Centre/Taranaki-Stories/Taranaki-Story/id/519/title/johnny-callender-and-the-mountain-goat

[JimO]

i had one years ago, used to run the dogs on the beach with it, it seized about 2 ks from where i had parked and i pushed it back , sold it a few weeks later for $20, should have pushed the cunt into the sea

[pritch]

this was kawasaki powered, i think the early ones were suzuki and johhny callender had a lot to do with them, they were made in waitara at motor holdings plant? from memory suzuki then started making farm bikes so no longer would supply engines to a competitor.

That's about the size of it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

so is this the Trekka of the motorbike world? I have never heard of them and I grew up in rural south canterbury. but all the bikes on friends parents farms were Suzuki or Honda. My first bike was a mighty TS125


I am sure there are a couple of dudes out there getting semi-hard in their bidding frenzy over the book ($106 - come on!)

[husaberg]

A matched set
Even with original decals.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1127138898.htm

[Voltaire]

so is this the Trekka of the motorbike world? I have never heard of them and I grew up in rural south canterbury. but all the bikes on friends parents farms were Suzuki or Honda. My first bike was a mighty TS125


I am sure there are a couple of dudes out there getting semi-hard in their bidding frenzy over the book ($106 - come on!)


NZ Trekka motorcycle :lol:
Leading link front forks, did it come with a hay sidecar?
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http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1127138898.htm

[AllanB]

Pretty sure I still have the sales brochure for my 190 Z440 and 1982 CSR750 Kawasakis.

[toycollector10]

See your Suzuki and raise you one Honda....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400995761406?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[sidecar bob]

See your Suzuki and raise you one Honda....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400995761406?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Anyone that actually liked that sort of bike wouldn't ask that sort of money for a worn out book.
Just an opportunist thief. That's if anyone is stupid enough to buy it.

[husaberg]

Anyone that actually liked that sort of bike wouldn't ask that sort of money for a worn out book.
Just an opportunist thief. That's if anyone is stupid enough to buy it.

Rather ironically, none of the early cb750 cases were sand cast, they where die cast rather than pressure diecast.
Econohonda and david silver likely has a dozen of them manuals each.

[Voltaire]

Rather ironically, none of the early cb750 cases were sand cast, they where die cast rather than pressure diecast.
Econohonda and david silver likely has a dozen of them manuals each.

Really, you should stop relying on your pile of old Two Wheels for information.:laugh:

http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/black-side-down/honda-cb750-sells-for-148100.aspx


Somebody just paid $148,100 for a 1969 Honda CB750. Honda CB750 fanatics know that the first 7,414 1969 CB750s featured sand-cast cases. The Holy Grail of Hondas, the sand-cast CB750s have for years commanded a premium over the later die-cast CB750s. But $148,100? The incredible price starts coming into focus when you learn that Honda built four pre-production CB750s in 1968, shipping them over to the U.S. to show to dealers and help promote the new model. The CB750 that just sold on eBay was one of those four bikes.

Only 7414 made..... talk about rare.

So rare in fact there is a UK owners club..


http://www.cb750sandcastonly.com/:laugh:

[husaberg]

Really, you should stop relying on your pile of old Two Wheels for information.:laugh:

http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/black-side-down/honda-cb750-sells-for-148100.aspx



Only 7414 made..... talk about rare.

So rare in fact there is a UK owners club..


http://www.cb750sandcastonly.com/:laugh:

er I said sandcast is a myth, they were rougher but only because they were never pressure dicast.
http://www.sohc4.net/cb750-sandcast/

[sidecar bob]

It's all trainspotter bullshit really though. Even though I owned a 750/4 when they were semi modern, I wouldn't be able to pick, or much less care wether a bike was "sand cast" or whatever.
I owned pre production gsxr1100g chassis number 000003, it was worth no more when it was new, or now.
It's like owning a matching numbers bike, how does that make it more fun to ride?

[Voltaire]

er I said sandcast is a myth, they were rougher but only because they were never pressure dicast.
http://www.sohc4.net/cb750-sandcast/

Spoiler :baby:

I stopped at the 500/4, never even knew about matching numbers then, was more interested in matching flares with platforms.

[sidecar bob]

er I said sandcast is a myth, they were rougher but only because they were never pressure dicast.
http://www.sohc4.net/cb750-sandcast/

So in short they are a substandard orphan, cool.

[husaberg]

So in short they are a substandard orphan, cool.

Nah, they were just a rougher than usual finish for Honda standards.
At the time I guess it was a production expedience vs cost.
They did have issues around the chain case when the chain broke they tended to destroyed the cases, they strengthened them later.
Early Ducati SS cases were also sand cast and later diecast.
http://www.webgrafex.com/roundcase/ducati/cases%20sandcast%20and%20diecast.html
A lot of small production run stuff is sand cast and the tools to diecast are really expensive.
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Sand cast is generally easy to spot as you can see the imperfections in the casting from the sand surface.
but sand cast are labour intensive and slow for mass production.
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I am pretty sure evo Harleys are about the only exception, were a die casting was done on purpose, in order to look like a poor surface finish resembling a sand casting.

Spoiler :baby:

I stopped at the 500/4, never even knew about matching numbers then, was more interested in matching flares with platforms.
My father still has a 350/4. I'd rather have a 400/4, much better bike

[sidecar bob]

Weaker, rougher, different number of bolt holes. Sounds like a decent K2 would be a lot more fun.

[husaberg]

Weaker, rougher, different number of bolt holes. Sounds like a decent K2 would be a lot more fun.

Yes undoubtedly, but its the collectors that drive the price for collectables.

Not neseracry weaker though, sandcast weld better and are generally stronger, but heavier and thicker walled.
Most exotic stuff like formula one stuff is sand cast due to the production runs being small.

Like Neils (fletner) on KB crankcases
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nuI_QG8Ff0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdSw3QbZtKE