Traffic flow rate AKL Southern Motorway

[Old Steve]

I'm tired of the build up of traffic on the Southern Motorway coming into the city after 5.00 pm. So, I went looking for information on the traffic flow rate through the day, maybe if I leave half an hour earlier the traffic is lighter. Luckily I can lane filter if the traffic is too slow when I'm on my bike, but on those days when I have to take the car I'd like to try travelling at different times.

But do you think I can find that sort of information? No way, no charts of traffic flow across the 24 hours of the day, no tables of traffic flow by the hour.

Lots of cameras, but I can't log on and look at pretty pictures while driving.

Anyone know a web site where traffic flow on the Southern Motorway is broken down to flow rates by the hour - north and south.

[Gremlin]

Don't know of anything specific, but using Google Maps, you can set what time you leave on which day, and it will adjust your travel time based on the data it has (and you can add the traffic layer).

Realistically it's never the same, an accident here or there etc. Last Saturday there was a really decent one just south of Ellerslie southbound. Lane 1 shut, traffic south crawling and predictably northbound ground to a halt as well. Then earlier this week one on the Mt Wellington on ramp southbound and that was just after the truck in front of me locked up his rear wheels, went sideways in a cloud of smoke and managed to not hit the slow moving traffic in front...

Ah... never a dull moment :blink:

[Berries]

NZTA have the data to provide hourly breakdowns, you just need to find the right person to speak to to get at it.

But to save you a shit load of trouble why don't you leave an hour earlier one day and an hour later another day and see what the difference is?

[Daffyd]

Dunno if it's available in NZ but in the Philippines we have an app called Waze. Not only gives you a route to follow but you and other drivers can update it with current traffic conditions.

[Big Dog]

Don't know of anything specific, but using Google Maps, you can set what time you leave on which day, and it will adjust your travel time based on the data it has (and you can add the traffic layer).

Realistically it's never the same, an accident here or there etc. Last Saturday there was a really decent one just south of Ellerslie southbound. Lane 1 shut, traffic south crawling and predictably northbound ground to a halt as well. Then earlier this week one on the Mt Wellington on ramp southbound and that was just after the truck in front of me locked up his rear wheels, went sideways in a cloud of smoke and managed to not hit the slow moving traffic in front...

Ah... never a dull moment :blink:
Tuakau to the city or back Google maps drive times assume you will be %20 below speed limit at all times, but the variance is about right for a car or 50% skeptical for a bike. Eg says it will take 10 mins longer than normal takes 5 longer than normal.

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[Maha]

Bugger all on the m/ways today, the camera's show free flowing everywhere at 8am.

[gjm]

Traffic flow north of Mt Wellington towards Penrose yesterday afternoon at 2.45 could be measured in metres per minute. Stationery.

Typically, north of Drury heading towards Auckland, every morning from 06.30 thru 09.00 - same story.

Heading south on SH1 any time after 14.45 (and heaven help you if you're trying to get on to SH1 from SH20 or Redoubt Road) and up to 18.30 - again, stationery.

Curiously and as Maha said, nothing on SH1 this morning. I came in from the west and even the on-ramp lights at Papakura were off. Clear all the way to north of SH20 - that's happened perhaps 3 times in several years.

Or maybe it was clear because the on-ramp lights were out?

[nerrrd]

Or maybe it was clear because the on-ramp lights were out?

Bingo! Slightly off-topic but TPTB have been deliberately slowing traffic down and thickening the congestion in Auckland for years now IMHO (motorway on-ramp lights, traffic lights being installed wherever possible, no more discretionary right hand turns, glacial progress on installing red light cameras to keep intersections clear).

I can't decide if it's because they're being conned by flash-harry traffic 'consultants' or it's a conspiracy to get everyone on public transport (which also can't cope with the numbers).

What we need is a monorail! Or maybe an inner city loop...sigh.

[rambaldi]

Dunno if it's available in NZ but in the Philippines we have an app called Waze. Not only gives you a route to follow but you and other drivers can update it with current traffic conditions.

It is available here but very few people actually use it.

[Laava]

In Kamo today there was a dog on the road at 7.30am, peak hour! 7.30am! There were at least 3 cars inconvenienced! Never seen so much anger and frustration!

[5150]

Move south.... Problem solved. ;)

[Gremlin]

In Kamo today there was a dog on the road at 7.30am, peak hour! 7.30am! There were at least 3 cars inconvenienced! Never seen so much anger and frustration!
Meanwhile a truck hits a bridge on the Southern today closing the motorway... Fortunately I've been East and South... but then I'm on a bike anyway :D

[trufflebutter]

Meanwhile a truck hits a bridge on the Southern today closing the motorway... Fortunately I've been East and South... but then I'm on a bike anyway :D

I thought the Auckland M/Way was only open between the hours of 1am and 3am? the rest of the time it's either basically or actually closed.

[Scubbo]

I thought the Auckland M/Way was only open between the hours of 1am and 3am? the rest of the time it's either basically or actually closed.


this... as my colleague has found after moving out to Paeroa

[trufflebutter]

this... as my colleague has found after moving out to Paeroa

Bugger, hard beat living any but in *Auckland. It doesn't matter what job you do, there are opportunities in smaller less congested areas. Some people drive (if you can call it that) an hour or more to get to work. A family friend lived in Browns bay but worked in Wiri, he moved to just north of Thames right on the waters edge, the commute was the same but the life style so much better.

Tuaranga is getting the same, last time I was there (last year) it seemed as though there were lights every 50 meters down Cameron road. Frustrating as fuck in a car.


*Not the CBD.

[Gremlin]

I thought the Auckland M/Way was only open between the hours of 1am and 3am? the rest of the time it's either basically or actually closed.
Last January I was working on Ironman 70.3 in Auckland, had to be in the CBD at 0400 on a Sunday. I was surprised how many vehicles were actually out at 0345 on the Southern... I expected nothing :crazy:

Oh, and the motorway is mostly open for motorcycles... my travel times don't vary too much during traffic hours. Obviously a bit quicker at night.

[trufflebutter]

Last January I was working on Ironman 70.3 in Auckland, had to be in the CBD at 0400 on a Sunday. I was surprised how many vehicles were actually out at 0345 on the Southern... I expected nothing :crazy:

Oh, and the motorway is mostly open for motorcycles... my travel times don't vary too much during traffic hours. Obviously a bit quicker at night.

Competitors getting the starting point perhaps?

[Big Dog]

This sort of thing doesn't help. http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/truck-crash-blocks-aucklands-southern-motorway-2016031812

[gjm]

A family friend lived in Browns bay but worked in Wiri, he moved to just north of Thames right on the waters edge, the commute was the same but the life style so much better.

This.

I work in Manukau, but live (at the moment) in Te Kauwhata. Commute time? About 40 minutes. I know people who work in our office who live in Botany, and take as long to get into work.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Live in Howick, atm working in the city.

If im in the car I need to be out the door by 20 past 6 to be at work by 7

On the bike, I can leave at nearly 20 to 7 and still be in the city in time. Pushing it tho. Have found however I dont get nearly as frustrated by the traffic when im on the bike, which makes my evenings muuuuch nicer

[5ive]

This.

I work in Manukau, but live (at the moment) in Te Kauwhata. Commute time? About 40 minutes. I know people who work in our office who live in Botany, and take as long to get into work.

Yep, I live just to the East of you over the hills, and work in Central Auckland. My 100km commute via bike takes less time than most of my work mates who still live in Auckland, and I can do it in about an hour.

As an example, two of them are commuting from Te Atatu, which without traffic would take about 15 minutes. On most days though, it's an hour or two...

Life is better, closer to family, don't have to worry about moving again, and the mortgage is cheaper than renting in Auckland.

Complaining about congestion on the Southern Motorway is futile, it's just going to get worse... older folks who complain about the traffic, should probably just piss off and enjoy their pensions, and leave the hard working tax payers to get on with their living hell. They'll never have it as easy.

Here's a good guide to live traffic flow on the motorway though, if you ever want to plan a trip: https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/live-traffic-congestion/
(https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/live-traffic-congestion/)

[gjm]

Yep, I live just to the East of you over the hills, and work in Central Auckland. My 100km commute via bike takes less time than most of my work mates who still live in Auckland, and I can do it in about an hour.

As an example, two of them are commuting from Te Atatu, which without traffic would take about 15 minutes. On most days though, it's an hour or two...

We're considering moving a little further south and west - there's a place in Waingaro that looks nice.
When in Raglan last weekend we were talking to some people who live there and commute to Auckland, and there's folk in the village (TK) who commute to the North Shore.

Sure, it's quite a distance, but the compensation of living somewhere really nice makes it all worthwhile.

[5ive]

Sure, it's quite a distance, but the compensation of living somewhere really nice makes it all worthwhile.

Yep, we enjoy "Living" outside of Auckland. It's much better than "existing" in Auckland ;)

Good luck, hope it works out for you.

[Maha]

We live 40 minutes north of Taupo ...by a smaller lake, population just over 700. People commute to Rotorua/Taupo and Tokoroa for work, maximum travelling time is 45 minutes, which is to Rotorua. What is achievable in these smaller community's is home ownership/piece and quiet and all round lifestyle enhancement.

[Blackbird]

We live 40 minutes north of Taupo ...by a smaller lake, population just over 700. People commute to Rotorua/Taupo and Tokoroa for work, maximum travelling time is 45 minutes, which is to Rotorua. What is achievable in these smaller community's is home ownership/piece and quiet and all round lifestyle enhancement.

Absolutely :2thumbsup . We moved permanently to Coromandel in 2008 and have never regretted it. Sure, it's a couple of hours to Hamilton, Tauranga or Auckland but we don't need to go very often. Outside the 2 weeks over Xmas and bank holidays, traffic is light and in small communities, people still look out for each other. No complaints at all. There's a lot of good living outside the main centres :yes:

[Hubris]

If they ever did a super-fast ferry to the Coromandel you'd be over-run with us Aucklanders wanting to live there, not just own a batch.


Absolutely :2thumbsup . We moved permanently to Coromandel in 2008 and have never regretted it. Sure, it's a couple of hours to Hamilton, Tauranga or Auckland but we don't need to go very often. Outside the 2 weeks over Xmas and bank holidays, traffic is light and in small communities, people still look out for each other. No complaints at all. There's a lot of good living outside the main centres :yes:

[Blackbird]

If they ever did a super-fast ferry to the Coromandel you'd be over-run with us Aucklanders wanting to live there, not just own a batch.

In that case, I'm pleased that the current daily ferry only returns to Auckland around 1800 :innocent: . When I retired at 60, my old employer kept me on as a consultant for a year. Most of it was done by computer with a weekly or fortnightly 2 hour drive each way to the work site. It was a nice way to ease into full time retirement. If you could commute daily, it would double (or more) house prices here and the lifestyle would be screwed :(

[Maha]

If they ever did a super-fast ferry to the Coromandel you'd be over-run with us Aucklanders wanting to live there, not just own a batch.

Never going to happen, in saying that, parts of the Coromandel Peninsular are popular, the eastern side more so during the summer months obviously. Then everyone fucks off back to their grinding metropolis for the next 11 months.

[Jin]

Unemployed master race reporting in.

My commute in the morning is from bedroom to kitchen.

[Maha]

Unemployed master race reporting in.

My commute in the morning is from bedroom to kitchen.

You don't stop at the toilet first? :crazy:

[Moi]

Unemployed master race reporting in.

My commute in the morning is from bedroom to kitchen.


You don't stop at the toilet first? :crazy:

Obviously master race has superior bladder... :eek5:

[Maha]

Yeah see, I over looked the obvious...for the first time ever. ;)

[Moi]

Yeah see, I over looked the obvious...for the first time ever. ;)

Gotta be a first in everyone's life... and you waited this long for it... ;)

[rastuscat]

In Christchurch we have those boards at the main entries to the city that display the present travel time to various points.

They work by polling bluetooth devices that pass by one point, and measure the time they take to then pass the second point.

Bluetooth devices that are connected to something are excluded, but most passing disconnected phones with the bluetooth turned on are polled.

The data isn't stored, coz that's be unacceptable to Nikki Hagar.

[Maha]

In Christchurch we have those boards at the main entries to the city that display the present travel time to various points.

They work by polling bluetooth devices that pass by one point, and measure the time they take to then pass the second point.

Bluetooth devices that are connected to something are excluded, but most passing disconnected phones with the bluetooth turned on are polled.

The data isn't stored, coz that's be unacceptable to Nikki Hagar.

They have them in Auck:yawn:land as well, 1 hour to travel 15 kms is .....acceptable it would seem.

[nzspokes]

They have them in Auck:yawn:land as well, 1 hour to travel 15 kms is .....acceptable it would seem.

You should learn to ride a motorcycle then, travel times are not affected.

[gjm]

You should learn to ride a motorcycle then, travel times are not affected.

Used to be the case between Takanini and Alfriston, until the lanes were narrowed. Now if you get two trucks side-by-side, it'd be suicidal to try and squeeze through.

[Maha]

You should learn to ride a motorcycle then, travel times are not affected.

I should learn to ride a motorbike?
Have you suggested to your missus that an ART course would be of immense help after her very public fuck up on the road?

[nzspokes]

Used to be the case between Takanini and Alfriston, until the lanes were narrowed. Now if you get two trucks side-by-side, it'd be suicidal to try and squeeze through.

Really, I did so last Tuesday night. Didnt seem that bad at all.

[Moi]

In Christchurch we have those boards at the main entries to the city that display the present travel time to various points...


They have them in Auck:yawn:land as well, 1 hour to travel 15 kms is .....acceptable it would seem.

I have been reliably informed that the times on the motorway travel time signs are "written up" as part of the creative writing course run by NZTA under the authority of NZQA, where as AT's ones for the Urban Routes are written up by the local kindie kids who are doing basic numeracy... :lol::lol::lol:

[Swoop]

First of all, expect worse travel times around D'Auckland for the next while (2-3yrs) as the mentally retarded Auckland Council fuckwits have decided to meddle with the roads and dig a big hole in Albert St.

The Western Motorway was closed (yes, completely SHUT) a few nights back so resurfacing can happen all-lanes-at-once style. A beautiful job is being done, but NOT putting pointsmen and conrtols on the detour route is a(nother) stupid move.



Bingo! Slightly off-topic but TPTB have been deliberately slowing traffic down and thickening the congestion in Auckland for years now IMHO (motorway on-ramp lights, traffic lights being installed wherever possible, no more discretionary right hand turns, glacial progress on installing red light cameras to keep intersections clear).
Ramp-lights mean nothing. Ignore them on 2-wheels or 4.
They only want you to "stop", which we do while waiting for the car ahead. So just GO! when you get your chance!:woohoo:

[gjm]

Really, I did so last Tuesday night. Didnt seem that bad at all.

In the newly restricted narrower lanes? Rather you than me.

(Hopefully the narrowing is just temporary.)

[nzspokes]

In the newly restricted narrower lanes? Rather you than me.

(Hopefully the narrowing is just temporary.)

Yerp, not that bad at all. A Harley was struggling a bit but he let me through.

[rambaldi]

You don't stop at the toilet first? :crazy:

Didn't you read, he is unemployed! He can't afford a toilet and a sink.

[Maha]

Didn't you read, he is unemployed! He can't afford a toilet and a sink.

Topic related, I have witnessed a female taking a piss on the Newmarket fly over. Traffic was stopped, car in front of me, and she got out of the back seat, squatted in front of the drivers open door and took a piss. Traffic started to moved before she was finished...all I could do was laugh, she worded sorry as she got back in the car, cleanliness was in order though, she rinsed her hands with a pump bottle out the rear window.

When needs must ...etc.

[Old Steve]

I can't really contribute further to the thread after that Maha. There's just nothing I could say ....

[mada]

Think south is bad? Come out west. Roads chocka, narrow, and the surfaces buggered. At night they block off the motorway, but only warn you when you get right up to the onramp. Nek minute 1 hour detour.

Good luck to any westie cagers... its only gonna get better the already fucked Te Atatu Rd/Edmonton Roundabout area and onramp is going to get even worse as it gets reduced from two congested lanes to one... should make filtering more easy :banana:

[Bass]

Think south is bad? Come out west. Roads chocka, narrow, and the surfaces buggered. At night they block off the motorway, but only warn you when you get right up to the onramp. Nek minute 1 hour detour.



The Westie control program is working then?

[Akzle]

aucklanders moaning about traffic. Again. :facepalm:

[nzspokes]

aucklanders moaning about traffic. Again. :facepalm:

Those that post that cannot afford to live anywhere decent trying to console themselves over live in the middle of butt fuck nowhere.:facepalm:

[gjm]

The only thing keeping us here is school. Teenage daughter in the last two years of school, and moving her would be disruptive and detrimental to her education. We'll just have to live with it for a while.

It'll make moving even sweeter!

[Akzle]

Those that post that cannot afford to live anywhere decent trying to console themselves over live in the middle of butt fuck nowhere.:facepalm:

:killingme

whatever helps you sleep at night :tugger:

[RGVforme]

Topic related, I have witnessed a female taking a piss on the Newmarket fly over. Traffic was stopped, car in front of me, and she got out of the back seat, squatted in front of the drivers open door and took a piss. Traffic started to moved before she was finished...all I could do was laugh, she worded sorry as she got back in the car, cleanliness was in order though, she rinsed her hands with a pump bottle out the rear window.

When needs must ...etc.

Wow Auckland aye.

Least she said sorry.....Lucky you.Some pay good money to watch stuff like that in person.;)