Steering Damper for R6

[Suzi Q]

I have decided to get a Steering Damper for the R6, so, opinions wanted. What brands do you guys recomend. My R6 is the 2001 model. :)

[cowpoos]

I have decided to get a Steering Damper for the R6, so, opinions wanted. What brands do you guys recomend. My R6 is the 2001 model. :)

hey suzi....my advice....cheap steering dampers are like cheap saftey wear...
spend the extra coin and go Ohlins....I have one...and apart from been a beautiful piece of looking kit...it works really well...an almost perfect range of adjustment...and was really easy to fit it...ring 06 278 4160 and ask for robert taylor.

For those in the know...I ride a TL1000s...the are the most well known tankslap happy bikes...and since the ohlins damper...no worries...at all!!!!

[James Deuce]

Have you ever had a tank slapper on it? Do you still have chicken strips on your tyres? Have you ever launched out of a corner using full throttle while cranked right over with everything dragging?

If you answered, "No", to the above then save your dosh.

Otherwise don't go for any false economy stuff. Get an Ohlins and buy it from Robert Taylor in Hawera so it gets set up properly. Check that you have brackets to mount it as well, if not there will be engineering costs.

If you are riding hard enough to NEED, not want, a steering damper then get to a race track.

Be aware that a poorly setup steering damper can slow your steering, make slow speed stuff awkward, and possibly even make the steering very heavy.

Hawera Motorcycles

5 - 7 Glover Rd, HAWERA Ph: 06-2784160 Fax: 06-2784160

[**R1**]

I'd go ohlins, with a harris mounting kit, it all works well and looks fantastic(i think you would have seen mine on Saturday?) the R6 i test rode needed one more that my R1 duz(R1 only needs it for landing wheelies) but i wouldnt worry to much about travling the country side to get someone to set it up, u can adjust them on the fly, and if you go ohlins you are only going to have it set at around 2 or 3 of the 16 positions availible(i know coz i have seen how you ride) it will sort any potential tank slappers without slowing down your cornering...thats my 2cents worth...

[Two Smoker]

and if you go ohlins you are only going to have it set at around 2 or 3 of the 16 positions availible(i know coz i have seen how you ride) it will sort any potential tank slappers without slowing down your cornering...thats my 2cents worth...

Dont know about your Ohlins, but mine has 20 settings...

Ohlins and WP are the best, with Hyperpro a close second :niceone:

[cowpoos]

Dont know about your Ohlins, but mine has 20 settings...

Ohlins and WP are the best, with Hyperpro a close second :niceone:

mine has 16 too....!!!!!!!!

[Two Smoker]

mine has 16 too....!!!!!!!!

Well according to the one on my bike, and http://www.ohlins.com/mc_sd_rnt.shtml it has 20 settings...

[Suzi Q]

I'd go ohlins, with a harris mounting kit, it all works well and looks fantastic(i think you would have seen mine on Saturday?) the R6 i test rode needed one more that my R1 duz(R1 only needs it for landing wheelies) but i wouldnt worry to much about travling the country side to get someone to set it up, u can adjust them on the fly, and if you go ohlins you are only going to have it set at around 2 or 3 of the 16 positions availible(i know coz i have seen how you ride) it will sort any potential tank slappers without slowing down your cornering...thats my 2cents worth...


I know - I ride like a Girl - perhaps that's because I am one!!! :rolleyes: But don't forget you didn't catch me on the Old Tai Tapu rd - i did get up to 201 kms. But then you guys left me behind after that!!
Sounds like the Ohlins is the one for me - we were looking at either Ohlins or Hyperpro. As Glen says, I may not ride that hard but it is a safety feature just in case.

[cowpoos]

Well according to the one on my bike, and http://www.ohlins.com/mc_sd_rnt.shtml it has 20 settings...


mine still has 16.....lol

[cowpoos]

I know - I ride like a Girl - perhaps that's because I am one!!! :rolleyes: But don't forget you didn't catch me on the Old Tai Tapu rd - i did get up to 201 kms. But then you guys left me behind after that!!
Sounds like the Ohlins is the one for me - we were looking at either Ohlins or Hyperpro. As Glen says, I may not ride that hard but it is a safety feature just in case.
hyperpro....is really a try hard brand...look pretty...but not so much go pretty....if you know what I mean...

Racers use Ohlins and white power....mainly ohlins....and yes I agree....it is a major safty feature...and worth the peice of mind alone...

[Two Smoker]

mine still has 16.....lol

geez get up with the latest and greatest why dont you....

[dangerous]

Have you ever had a tank slapper on it? Do you still have chicken strips on your tyres? Have you ever launched out of a corner using full throttle while cranked right over with everything dragging?

If you answered, "No", to the above then save your dosh.

Be aware that a poorly setup steering damper can slow your steering, make slow speed stuff awkward, and possibly even make the steering very heavy.

I agree here, theres no way in hell you need one Suz..... it will most likely just piss you off Rashika is looking at removing hers as its a pain in the ass, but then again I know you guys so you will get it anyway.... hey, you could always buy me something for the Nero instead :niceone:

[SimJen]

I'm not sure you really need it for safety if you're not riding hard on the road. A bit of head shake lets you know your trying hard :)
I had one on my NSR for many years and ended up winding it right down to get a better feeling for the front end.
My current GSXR slaps all the time on the road without one, but never enough to make me think I need to waste a shit load of money on a damper. I can buy a couple of rear tires for the same money ;)

[cowpoos]

My current GSXR slaps all the time on the road without one, but never enough to make me think I need to waste a shit load of money on a damper. I can buy a couple of rear tires for the same money ;)


well your a fuckin idiot...who obviously wants to have and accident....and your advice is stupid....think about it....your obviously a know it all...who's ego doesn't allow comon sence...because it has a total lack of though towards consequences...

So when the day comes where you get bucked off ya bike and flip over and get run over by a car or hit a tree....Makes a saftey Item like a damper...look pretty cheap....cheaper than alot of people pay for insurance...


Ignore this dick people....he doesn't suport safety!!!!

[dangerous]

Ignore this dick people....he doesn't suport safety!!!!
Takes one to know one they say........

My VTR will shake a bit under hard acceleration as the wheel hovers over the ground.... it does not worry me and it does not need a dampner, a shack to you CP is not necessary a shake to another rider... so chill man :niceone:

[cowpoos]

Takes one to know one they say........

My VTR will shake a bit under hard acceleration as the wheel hovers over the ground.... it does not worry me and it does not need a dampner, a shack to you CP is not necessary a shake to another rider... so chill man :niceone:

acceleration head shake is a hell of alot diff from coming out of a corner head shake....dangerous....you should know this....???? maybe not then???

Best you are not giving advice on saftey either matey...one can never be to safe on a motorbike....if suziQ or anyone for that matter will enjoy their riding more because they have less to worrie about while out on the road because they feel safer or are safer because they take as many precautions as possible...to stop what if's??? power to them....if you ride hard....you need to be more safety concious...because what ifs are more likely to happen...
you can't tell me your skill will stop a slapper...if you do your full of shit...aye?
ten foot high and bullet proof is no way to live a long life mate...

Ps: tank slappers can happen because of incorrect tyre pressures [tyre harmonics] amoung many other causes...not always what people expect the to start a slapper...

:done:

[dangerous]

acceleration head shake is a hell of alot diff from coming out of a corner head shake....dangerous....you should know this....???? maybe not then???

Best you are not giving advice on saftey either matey...one can never be to safe on a motorbike....if suziQ or anyone for that matter will enjoy their riding more because they have less to worrie about while out on the road because they feel safer or are safer because they take as many precautions as possible...to stop what if's??? power to them....if you ride hard....you need to be more safety concious...because what ifs are more likely to happen...
you can't tell me your skill will stop a slapper...if you do your full of shit...aye?
ten foot high and bullet proof is no way to live a long life mate...

Ps: tank slappers can happen because of incorrect tyre pressures [tyre harmonics] amoung many other causes...not always what people expect the to start a slapper...

:done:
Theres only one turkey full of shit round here mate :wait:
A damper is bloody usless on SuzyQ's bike, now while you say you can never be too safe... and that is correct.... but theres a fuk load beter things money can go towards than a damper... think about it not every body is a superbike rider on the roads aye, as far as me knowing shit....... :spudflip:


Best you are not giving advice on saftey either matey...
get over ya self matey

[cowpoos]

Theres only one turkey full of shit round here mate :wait:
A damper is bloody usless on SuzyQ's bike, now while you say you can never be too safe... and that is correct.... but theres a fuk load beter things money can go towards than a damper... think about it not every body is a superbike rider on the roads aye, as far as me knowing shit....... :spudflip:


Its better to be thought of as a fool...than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt... :laugh:

[Kickaha]

Its better to be thought of as a fool...than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt... :laugh:


what, like you did? :lol:

[cowpoos]

get over ya self matey

believe me mate when I say...I'm not full of myself....
my first off on a motorbike was on a kawasaki KR1-s 250...was going quite slow...cruzing along following a mate on a srx250...going around a corner and I casually adjusted my line to avoid some road kill....wasn't a quike flick around it or anything just casual as can be...next thing...lock to lock slap...over the handle bars...land on my shoulder...bike runs over my arm...slide in to a fence...

if I had a damper on that bike...I probally would of just had a fright and carried on...

ain't nessacerly got any thing to do with being a superbike racer on the road!

[cowpoos]

Dunno why you think Hyperpro is a try hard damper?? Because it doesnt have an ohlins sticker on it? My bike has a Hyperpro damper and it works fine....and it has 24 settings:whistle:

I used to own one...and had it replaced under warrenty twice because it leaked fluid...

then I threw it in the bin the third time...but your right...it had a really good range of adjustment...better adjustment than the ohlins one...as it only has 16 settings...

[cowpoos]

what, like you did? :lol:

hehe...more cheek than a fat mans arse....

[Zed]

well your a fuckin idiot...who obviously wants to have and accident....and your advice is stupid...

Ignore this dick people....he doesn't suport safety!!!!No, SimJen said he's "not sure you really need it for safety" which makes all your snotty personal remarks against him null and void. :nono:

Read the post properly next time before you get all excited and make up stories about what you surmise others think cowturd! Seems you are the one to be ignored here.

[cowpoos]

Maybe you got a shitter, it happens. Had no problems with mine.. well hasnt slapped so itsdoing something right or I'm just soft.

also had a KR1 250 smoker.. the red and white/black one.. and yep, that had more slappers than Hunter's Corner

my KR1-s finally died [it was a red and black too]when i hit a sheep at about 140kmph...believe it or not it was my most un-pain full crash...for some reason I just landed on the road softly-ish and slide nicely to a stop....but fuck me...what happened to the bike...you wouldn't have believed....and the sheep...errr...nasty
Hell of a fun bike though...despite its nervious disposition....

its probally doing it job!

I don't think...but am not a 100% sure that the TLR's had the same issue with being nervious handlers like the TLS did...I'm pretty sure the TLR rotary damper was re-worked by suzuki to have a much more digressive damping curve than TL's one...as most of the bad handling traits these bikes suffer [suzuki TLs and TLR] is alot to do with the overly hard compresion from the rotary damper...not helped by the amount of extra friction a rotary damper produces internally compare to a conventional damper....so the over hard dampening on the rear places extra strain on the front forks...which are quite well damped...but not good enough to cope with the bad balance due to the rotary damper not being able to do its job...

[James Deuce]

Look my R6 was a little twitchy when I got it. I've tuned that completely out with suspension setup, experimenting with tyre pressures, riding position, and throttle technique.

I'm not mega quick, but I have been known to make Buell XB12R riders cry. I've attacked bumpy corners trying to provoke the thing too.

I think you could get a pretty decent rear shock for the price of a steering damper and careful setup will net a comfier ride and a more stable chassis. All a steering damper is going to do is limit steering lock and stop you from jamming your thumbs against the tank. But from most of the stunned silence I get when I post about actually owning an R6, and refuting the rumours of it being a tank slapping peaky death machine I guess, no strike that, I know I'll just get the, "STFU n00b, what do you know" speech.

[ducatilover]

Look my R6 was a little twitchy when I got it. I've tuned that completely out with suspension setup, experimenting with tyre pressures, riding position, and throttle technique.

I'm not mega quick, but I have been known to make Buell XB12R riders cry. I've attacked bumpy corners trying to provoke the thing too.

I think you could get a pretty decent rear shock for the price of a steering damper and careful setup will net a comfier ride and a more stable chassis. All a steering damper is going to do is limit steering lock and stop you from jamming your thumbs against the tank. But from most of the stunned silence I get when I post about actually owning an R6, and refuting the rumours of it being a tank slapping peaky death machine I guess, no strike that, I know I'll just get the, "STFU n00b, what do you know" speech.
go hard man, kill the buells...... :headbang: goddam wrongly made v-twins, they are d disgrace in my pitiful opinion.....rather have one than an hd though...

[dangerous]

when I post about actually owning an R6, and refuting the rumours of it being a tank slapping peaky death machine I guess, no strike that, I know I'll just get the, "STFU n00b, what do you know" speech.
:apumpin: :killingme :apumpin:


Read the post properly next time before you get all excited and make up stories about what you surmise others think cowturd! Seems you are the one to be ignored here.
But Zed.... CP has atleast 11yrs less riding experance than me, 16yrs less than Kick and over 2000 less than you :msn-wink: so he knows what hes on about, he had a KR remember :niceone:

[cowpoos]

what, like you did? :lol:

how is that nth canturbury weather....I miss my quik rips in to rangiora via the coldstream oad/tulls road GP circut...

can't beat cant weather for riding I reckon!!!

[ducatilover]

gwockamole........ :not:

[cowpoos]

:apumpin: :killingme :apumpin:


But Zed.... CP has atleast 11yrs less riding experance than me, 16yrs less than Kick and over 2000 less than you :msn-wink: so he knows what hes on about, he had a KR remember :niceone:

I suppose you have being playing cricket longer than stephen flemming too....

Does that make you better than him?

I know your trying to get me to bite dangerous...good on ya...

just remeber....you don't know me.

and just for the record...what is wrong with a KR1-s 250...I'm asuming you have owned one? I've owned alot of bikes and it would have been one of my favorites...I'm just curious?

[cowpoos]

[QUOTE=dangerous]:apumpin: :killingme :apumpin:


QUOTE]

I wouldn't make fun of what jim2 said....he is right...most bad handling traits should be able to be tuned out with proper setup and adjustment...getting balance front to rear correct...along with ladden geometry.

[dangerous]

I suppose you have being playing cricket longer than stephen flemming too....

Does that make you better than him?

I know your trying to get me to bite dangerous...good on ya...

just remeber....you don't know me.

and just for the record...what is wrong with a KR1-s 250...I'm asuming you have owned one? I've owned alot of bikes and it would have been one of my favorites...I'm just curious?
LMFAO...... cant be fuked with cricket, bite ya wee fuker :headbang:
I know you dont you worry..... its a small world :psst:
you asume correct well almost had a new KR250 brought it the same time as a mate brought a GPZ600 new they cost the same.... thems were the days KR v MVX v RG V RZ :drinkup:

[cowpoos]

Yep the KR1 was one of my fav's.... till it shit its third set of power valves and I pushed it up a friken hill to my house....again.
Traded that bastard on a CBR...

errr...yeah....power valves...erm...they.....were...ummm....annoyingly problematic...always in a stupid place....hmmm

Cbr250rr or cbr400rr???

I don't know about the 250...but I had a cbr400rr...man that was a brillent handling bike...you just needed to think corner and you were half way around it...had such a planted front end...and stable...nothing fazed that chassis.

[cowpoos]

I know you dont you worry..... its a small world :psst:



Hmmm...yes....I also know where on main north road your house is...so I might know who you are more than you think...lmfao

have you ridin a KR1-S 250 though....worlds apart from the kr I believe...

[dangerous]

I wouldn't make fun of what jim2 said....he is right
man.... keep up I was so agreeing with what Jim said I was laoughing at............. ohhh dont worry :dodge:



have you ridin a KR1-S 250 though....worlds apart from the kr I believe...
No... dont think I ever did, looked shit hot tho

[cowpoos]

I fitted these stickers to my sons bike but the suspension was still way too hard.

Hmmm....those trikes roll easy too....it might need a suzuki sticker on the tank to balance things out a bit...lol

[cowpoos]

When that happens to my boy, I prefer them term "Highside".
It's normally after a high speed run down the hall from his bedroom, across the tiles in the dining room to the carpeted area in the lounge. It is the transition from the slippy tiles to the grippy carpet that will...if there is any sideways action, cause the highside to occur. Luckily an LCM bar rectifies the situation.
He is learning to either keep the slippy action or straighten up before the carpet.

lol...hard case

I'll send ya boy a bottle of rasberry pop when he gets his knee down!

How old is you lad? getting close to bicycle age?

[cowpoos]

He's just turned two.. a bicycle for Christmas all going well.

good stuff...can't start them too early....I was started early....I got my first bicycle at two and a bit...lol..was my brothers birthday lol...and first motorbike at 3...lawnmower engine with no brakes...hell it was fun...

[dangerous]

When that happens to my boy, I prefer them term "Highside".
It's normally after a high speed run down the hall from his bedroom, across the tiles in the dining room to the carpeted area in the lounge. It is the transition from the slippy tiles to the grippy carpet that will...if there is any sideways action, cause the highside to occur. Luckily an LCM bar rectifies the situation.
He is learning to either keep the slippy action or straighten up before the carpet.
Soooo........... SuzyQ, what you have learnt tonight is to slow down when riding the R6 across the tiles in the dining room to the carpeted area in the lounge, safety 1st so beter buy 10 dampers, Jims always right, I live on the Main north rd somewere and when you get a knee down CP will get you a bottle of rasberry pop, KR's need dampers CBR's dont and 46 posts/4 pages later and you have no idea if you should get a damper or not..... LMFAO its late I'm out a here :spudwave:

[cowpoos]

Soooo........... SuzyQ, what you have learnt tonight is to slow down when riding the R6 across the tiles in the dining room to the carpeted area in the lounge, safety 1st so beter buy 10 dampers, Jims always right, I live on the Main north rd somewere and when you get a knee down CP will get you a bottle of rasberry pop, KR's need dampers CBR's dont and 46 posts/4 pages later and you have no idea if you shoud get a damper or not..... LMFAO its late I'm out a here :spudwave:


lmfao....10 dampers

you'll get a bottle of rasberry pop if ya don't watch out...lol

[**R1**]

that was crazy, i cant belive i just read all that shit...I feel some what dumber..

[Biff]

Its better to be thought of as a fool...than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt... :laugh:


Arse biscuits.

:drinkup:

[Kickaha]

I wouldn't make fun of what jim2 said....he is right...most bad handling traits should be able to be tuned out with proper setup and adjustment...getting balance front to rear correct...along with ladden geometry.

And if that doesn't work put a steering damper on it to disguise the poor handling :lol: (must be ohlins of course)



how is that nth canturbury weather....I miss my quik rips in to rangiora via the coldstream oad/tulls road GP circut...

can't beat cant weather for riding I reckon!!!

Only been living her 7 years and still have no idea where those roads are :lol: perhaps I should look at some road signs, they took big the hump out on Island road near the bridge though which has made it more boring

[Kickaha]

...I feel some what dumber..


You look it to :finger: :yes:

[Mooch]

believe me mate when I say...I'm not full of myself....
my first off on a motorbike was on a kawasaki KR1-s 250...was going quite slow...cruzing along following a mate on a srx250...going around a corner and I casually adjusted my line to avoid some road kill....wasn't a quike flick around it or anything just casual as can be...next thing...lock to lock slap...over the handle bars...land on my shoulder...bike runs over my arm...slide in to a fence...

if I had a damper on that bike...I probally would of just had a fright and carried on...

ain't nessacerly got any thing to do with being a superbike racer on the road!

Having owned a Kr1 for about 12 years and ridden an R6 I'd say that neither need a steering damper for road use. Jim2 is spot on about setup and I think adding one would detract from it's excellent steering response. Steering dampens aren't great in heavy stop start traffic either. I'd spend the money on riding courses if it was mine.

[SimJen]

well your a fuckin idiot...who obviously wants to have and accident....and your advice is stupid....think about it....your obviously a know it all...who's ego doesn't allow comon sence...because it has a total lack of though towards consequences...

So when the day comes where you get bucked off ya bike and flip over and get run over by a car or hit a tree....Makes a saftey Item like a damper...look pretty cheap....cheaper than alot of people pay for insurance...

Ignore this dick people....he doesn't suport safety!!!!

Im so sorry to offend the almighty.
You know absolutely nothing about me and then you call me a fuckin idiot.
I think you missed the tongue in cheek way I posted. :not:
I think if you are worried about a bike slapping, then fit a damper......
Im not too worried about it, I find I can ride my bike the way its setup. It doesn't slap really hard and never seems to get out of control and I feel I have the upper body strength to hold on. This is MY opinion for MY bike with MY setup if thats okay with you..........
But people do get a little scared when there bike shakes a bit, just because it shakes doesn't mean it will get out of control, fit a damper if it makes you feel better.

Sweetas Cowpoos, just don't call me something Im not. (unless you can back it up) :psst:

[dangerous]

that was crazy, i cant belive i just read all that shit...I feel some what dumber..
Aaron who???????? :headbang:


Arse biscuits.

:drinkup:
Who pulled your chain :whistle:


You look it to :finger: :yes:
ohhhh yeahhhhhh... now thats some funny shit, and what ya know from a country boy too :dodge:


Having owned a Kr1 for about 12 years and ridden an R6 I'd say that neither need a steering damper for road use. Jim2 is spot on about setup and I think adding one would detract from it's excellent steering response. Steering dampens aren't great in heavy stop start traffic either. I'd spend the money on riding courses if it was mine.
yip agree


Im so sorry to offend the almighty.
You know absolutely nothing about me and then you call me a fuckin idiot.
I think you missed the tongue in cheek way I posted. :not:
I think if you are worried about a bike slapping, then fit a damper......
Im not too worried about it, I find I can ride my bike the way its setup. It doesn't slap really hard and never seems to get out of control and I feel I have the upper body strength to hold on. This is MY opinion for MY bike with MY setup if thats okay with you..........
But people do get a little scared when there bike shakes a bit, just because it shakes doesn't mean it will get out of control, fit a damper if it makes you feel better.

Sweetas Cowpoos, just don't call me something Im not. (unless you can back it up) :psst:
Top post SJ..... dont worry a KBer got up CP with a little red thing and a comment or to which CP did take into consideration, CP was a dick.... BUT "a good dick" :niceone:
the rest of your post makes good sence to me.

ps: dont think I'd want to ride a TL with out the best damper out on it

[cowpoos]

Having owned a Kr1 for about 12 years and ridden an R6 I'd say that neither need a steering damper for road use. Jim2 is spot on about setup and I think adding one would detract from it's excellent steering response. Steering dampens aren't great in heavy stop start traffic either. I'd spend the money on riding courses if it was mine.

good dampers are adjustable....usually they are almost free flowing on the lowest settings....so okay for town riding

[cowpoos]

Im not too worried about it, I find I can ride my bike the way its setup. It doesn't slap really hard and never seems to get out of control and I feel I have the upper body strength to hold on. This is MY opinion for MY bike with MY setup if thats okay with you..........



I was impling that you shouldn't tell people they don't need saftey items [damper in this case]...If they think they do...or if they think they will be safer with one...

If someone is out riding and they arn't enjoying themselves because they have a little gremlin in their head worring them about their bikes handling,reputation,or stories they have heard about it....no matter what the cicumstances...they won't be enjoying themselves...the human minds insticts are that of survival...

There are hundreds...no...probally thousands of riders out there that don't feel as relaxed on their bikes as they should...because of little worries about what if's...and if they think they need a damper or anything else...good...shut up and don't talk them out of it...if a $800-$900 damper will make them more relaxed about riding their favorite toy...its a small investment with big pay-offs...and then...if your bike does shake its head occasionally...you would be a fool to think you can hold on to a tankslapper with upper body strenght...just because you can handle a little wriggle...especially on modern sports bikes...as you have buggar all leverage on the bars...despite comon belief by alot of people that you do!!

:done:

[cowpoos]

that was crazy, i cant belive i just read all that shit...I feel some what dumber..

shit...I can't believe you can read.... :niceone:

[cowpoos]

And if that doesn't work put a steering damper on it to disguise the poor handling :lol: (must be ohlins of course)


with 16 or 20 settings....this is the question???


coldstream road is the last road on the right before the 70 sign [down where the cemetry and cricket grounds are]...heading to loburn...
...the GP starts with a big wheelie off the railway crossing...fast straight...with a slight kink..then a mix of good medium speed corners...cold stream road finnishes with a shap blind left hander...and your on tulls road!!! after a nice knee down right hander and a fast open left...nice small straight...then another knee "almost down" right...long straight...keep your eyes peeled for random cows walking down the road...and the cowshit half way down the straight [cow crossing]...then hard on the brakes...and go really really slow round the next corner...coz a stupid cow cocky walks his cows across the road on it...and then speed up fast left...straight...on the barkes...little left...stop...the road infront of you is SH1...turn right...you'll be in waikuku in seconds...

Tell me you don't know the road???

[SimJen]

I was impling that you shouldn't tell people they don't need saftey items [damper in this case]...If they think they do...or if they think they will be safer with one...

There are hundreds...no...probally thousands of riders out there that don't feel as relaxed on their bikes as they should...because of little worries about what if's...and if they think they need a damper or anything else...good...shut up and don't talk them out of it...if a $800-$900 damper will make them more relaxed about riding their favorite toy...its a small investment with big pay-offs...and then...if your bike does shake its head occasionally...you would be a fool to think you can hold on to a tankslapper with upper body strenght...just because you can handle a little wriggle...especially on modern sports bikes...as you have buggar all leverage on the bars...despite comon belief by alot of people that you do!!

:done:

If people are that worried about little things when they don't ride hard then they should give up motorcycling ;) what if a car hit them? or they drop it on cowpoo :)
Have you ever watched a GP where someone gets a ginormous tank slapper but holds on so tight they pop shoulders/wrists. It can be done.
Again you take it all too seriously. People who ask the question generally already know the answer......they will get one no matter what because a good damper looks cool and makes them look like a racer. :done:

[**R1**]

You look it to :finger: :yes:How would u know ....perv hiding in the bushes again.....no means no.


fkn funny tho:niceone:

[cowpoos]

If people are that worried about little things when they don't ride hard then they should give up motorcycling ;) what if a car hit them? or they drop it on cowpoo :)
Have you ever watched a GP where someone gets a ginormous tank slapper but holds on so tight they pop shoulders/wrists. It can be done.
Again you take it all too seriously. People who ask the question generally already know the answer......they will get one no matter what because a good damper looks cool and makes them look like a racer. :done:


al those GP bikes have steering dampers dip shit....christ....!!!!

[SimJen]

No shit genius, of course they do. If you want to talk about the technical details of GP racers then I'm up for it........ :headbang:
My point being it still doesn't guarantee that it won't dislocate your shoulders or break your wrists, Or spit you off big time..........sure a damper may help, but its not a guarantee it will stop it tank slapping or stop you binning it.
Basically if you want one get one. :whocares:

[cowpoos]

My point being it still doesn't guarantee that it won't dislocate your shoulders or break your wrists, Or spit you off big time..........sure a damper may help, but its not a guarantee it will stop it tank slapping or stop you binning it.




I feel I have the upper body strength to hold on.


contradiction....

just what the hell is your point...???? come on....your flogging a dead dog buddy!!!!

[SimJen]

Contradiction yes, but I don't ride as hard as I could........Im banking on the fact I won't get the mother of all slappers. I ride on well known roads (17+ years) so know where any crappy bits are. On unfamiliar stuff I slow down.
I bet your TLS was fun before you put your damper on :)


My point being it still doesn't guarantee that it won't dislocate your shoulders or break your wrists, Or spit you off big time..........sure a damper may help, but its not a guarantee it will stop it tank slapping or stop you binning it.

[Suzi Q]

I agree here, theres no way in hell you need one Suz..... it will most likely just piss you off Rashika is looking at removing hers as its a pain in the ass, but then again I know you guys so you will get it anyway.... hey, you could always buy me something for the Nero instead :niceone:

I understand there is a steering damper on the Nero - when is that coming off then????????? :sunny:

[k14]

I understand there is a steering damper on the Nero - when is that coming off then????????? :sunny:
It needs one because it is poorly designed, on the other hand your jappa is perfectly designed, thus not needing one :whistle:

[dangerous]

I understand there is a steering damper on the Nero - when is that coming off then????????? :sunny:
smart bitch :msn-wink:


It needs one because it is poorly designed, on the other hand your jappa is perfectly designed, thus not needing one :whistle:
Your a smart bitch too :dodge:

[cowpoos]

smart bitch :msn-wink:


I understand there is a steering damper on the Nero - when is that coming off then????????? :sunny:




Your a smart bitch too :dodge:



It needs one because it is poorly designed, on the other hand your jappa is perfectly designed, thus not needing one :whistle:


No comment!!!! :whistle:


but very tempting :calm:

[cowpoos]

Contradiction yes, but I don't ride as hard as I could........Im banking on the fact I won't get the mother of all slappers. I ride on well known roads (17+ years) so know where any crappy bits are. On unfamiliar stuff I slow down.
I bet your TLS was fun before you put your damper on :)

I think we all get the picture now Simon....