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EJK
1st April 2016, 13:02
Auckland lawyer told it is racial harassment to correct grammar of Sudanese employee

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/better-business/78445324/auckland-lawyer-told-it-is-racial-harassment-to-correct-grammar-of-sudanese-employee

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Banditbandit
1st April 2016, 13:19
Not quite true ... the Stuff headline is misleading .. if you red the actual article ...

The laywer was penalized for bullying - and the penalty was reduced because the complainant had also acted in a belligerent manner.

So - it's OK to correct and employee's grammer - its not OK to do so in a bullying and racist way ..

Tazz
1st April 2016, 13:21
Are bi-lingual people their own race now?

Swoop
1st April 2016, 14:34
Not quite true ... the Stuff headline is misleading .. if you red the actual article ...

One is hoping that this is some form of belated prank.

Banditbandit
1st April 2016, 16:02
One is hoping that this is some form of belated prank.

:rofl: no - dslyxiec fignesr

Maha
1st April 2016, 16:19
ROR unneedingly :killingme

BuzzardNZ
1st April 2016, 16:25
A deportable offence I say ;)

Honestly, it really sucks that it's come to this! Is it too much to expect people who come and work here to learn and apply correct English in the workplace?

When in Rome?

Oakie
1st April 2016, 16:57
He was in a legal firm though. I'd be less than impressed if my lawyer sent me documents with bad grammar.

Berries
1st April 2016, 17:27
So - it's OK to correct and employee's grammer - its not OK to do so in a bullying and racist way ..
Did you mean an employee?

Grammer eh?

Akzle
1st April 2016, 17:29
A deportable offence I say ;)

Honestly, it really sucks that it's come to this! Is it too much to expect people who come and work here to learn and apply correct English in the workplace?

When in Rome?

you fucken serious? English isnt even an official language here. Just de facto.

Ako reo, tenetene kanohi.

Big Dog
1st April 2016, 18:12
https://www.hrc.co.nz/enquiries-and-complaints/faqs/new-zealands-official-languages/
No point letting the truth get in the way eh ax?
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Big Dog
1st April 2016, 18:16
As much as I see the humour in some of the muff ups, they speak a second (my) language better than I speak theirs.


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Oakie
1st April 2016, 18:16
Grammer eh?

Nah ... grammar actually!

Maha
1st April 2016, 18:23
you fucken serious? English isnt even an official language here. Just de facto.

Ako reo, tenetene kanohi.

That's fucking and isn't. I know we are taught to speak English before writing (perhaps not in your case) but seriously, that was totally unneedingly.

BuzzardNZ
1st April 2016, 18:28
you fucken serious? English isnt even an official language here. Just de facto.

Ako reo, tenetene kanohi.

I sure am. My point was ''in the work place'', which is obviously something you're unfamiliar with. Stick to rating B grade videos all day, you're semi good at that.

neels
1st April 2016, 18:33
I greatly fear that grammar is already in it's death throes, despite the sterling efforts of the grammar nazis of the world.

RIP english, hello engrish and lol wtf srsly?

Jin
1st April 2016, 19:05
This guy has a bright future ahead of him. Legal firms around the country will be lining up to employ him.

Akzle
1st April 2016, 19:10
https://www.hrc.co.nz/enquiries-and-complaints/faqs/new-zealands-official-languages/
No point letting the truth get in the way eh ax?
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do you read what you link??

"Māori and New Zealand Sign languages have been
formally designated as ‘official languages’ and have
special status under the law."


my aforesaid saying, stands.

Akzle
1st April 2016, 19:27
I sure am. My point was ''in the work place'', which is obviously something you're unfamiliar with. Stick to rating B grade videos all day, you're semi good at that.

thefuck are you calling B grade cunt?

Im doing a public service in warning peopl what not to watch.

In the work place or no. When in rome, and shit. You're in "aotearoa", korero te reo, i te mahi, ranei e kore.

SVboy
1st April 2016, 19:36
you fucken serious? English isnt even an official language here. Just de facto.

Ako reo, tenetene kanohi.

Translation " cool, Thursday, benefit day"

BuzzardNZ
1st April 2016, 19:48
thefuck are you calling B grade cunt?





you, LOSER.




Im doing a public service in warning peopl what not to watch.







Call it what you will. Pacific Rim sucked, I agree with you on that one, the rest suck niggers shit.




In the work place or no. When in rome, and shit. You're in "aotearoa", korero te reo, i te mahi, ranei e kore.



No shit faggot, lived here all my life but what's that BS you're speaking, certainly ain't Sudanese.
You should be deported too cunt.

Luckylegs
1st April 2016, 19:58
I greatly fear that grammar is already in it's death throes, despite the sterling efforts of the grammar nazis of the world.

RIP english, hello engrish and lol wtf srsly?

Ikr.......

Big Dog
1st April 2016, 21:34
do you read what you link??

"Māori and New Zealand Sign languages have been
formally designated as ‘official languages’ and have
special status under the law."


my aforesaid saying, stands.
[QUOTE ]New Zealand has three ‘official’ languages: English; Māori and New Zealand Sign Language.[/QUOTE ]

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Akzle
2nd April 2016, 07:06
[QUOTE ]New Zealand has three ‘official’ languages: English; Māori and New Zealand Sign Language.[/QUOTE ]

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but not formally official... Notice the '' that surrounds the word 'official' in your quote...

trufflebutter
2nd April 2016, 07:13
He huru o te rūpahu he ki te whakaatu ki ana soko e atu ia e mohio atu ia mau i roto i te whakamahi th o te google .

Berries
2nd April 2016, 07:36
Can I get that with chips?

Tazz
2nd April 2016, 09:38
This guy has a bright future ahead of him. Legal firms around the country will be lining up to employ him.

Might as well spend the money he gets on a sweet neck or face tattoo just to do it right :laugh:

Big Dog
2nd April 2016, 11:13
but not formally official... Notice the '' that surrounds the word 'official' in your quote...
Oh look, I guess Māori an NZSL are not official languages either... because they are in quotes too.

Māori and New Zealand Sign languages have been formally designated as ‘official languages’ and have special status under the law. People have the right to speak in Maori or New Zealand Sign Language and they can be used in legal proceedings with interpreters. Māori is also taught in most schools and there are Māori immersion educational facilities.
Nope that seems to be the term official language...

We can all speak whatever we want.
But only the three have a right to have services provided in them.

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awa355
2nd April 2016, 11:22
https://www.hrc.co.nz/enquiries-and-complaints/faqs/new-zealands-official-languages/
No point letting the truth get in the way eh ax?
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Curious (and bored),

So if I give someone the fingers as the result of a 'close shave' at an intersection, or shake a closed fist at anyone as I ride past him, does that mean I am simply expressing myself using an official language? Therefore no offence should be taken? :shutup::shutup:

Does sign language have swear words? :motu:

Oakie
2nd April 2016, 11:26
Does sign language have swear words? :motu: Does 'bullshit' count as a swearword? If so .... then yes.

Moi
2nd April 2016, 11:40
Curious (and bored),

Does sign language have swear words?

Yes it does - even if not officially taught...

admenk
2nd April 2016, 11:43
just cos you lot can't speak proper English like wot I can.....

Moi
2nd April 2016, 11:44
My concern with poor grammar skills in this instance is the same as Oakie's concern... the possible lack of precision required in a legal document...

plus, if the legal clerk's grammatical skills were weak why was that not rectified before he graduated with a law degree?

Akzle
2nd April 2016, 12:53
Curious (and bored),

So if I give someone the fingers as the result of a 'close shave' at an intersection, or shake a closed fist at anyone as I ride past him, does that mean I am simply expressing myself using an official language? Therefore no offence should be taken? :shutup::shutup:

Does sign language have swear words? :motu:

see drews avatar.

Akzle
2nd April 2016, 13:23
Oh look, I guess Māori an NZSL are not official languages either... because they are in quotes too.

Nope that seems to be the term official language...

We can all speak whatever we want.
But only the three have a right to have services provided in them.

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you're sounding pretty old and white there buddy.

Legally, the languages of nz, are te reo maaori, and sign language.
/discussion.

"have the right to have services provided".
Jesus fucking fuck.

Jin
2nd April 2016, 13:44
So english is illegal?

Oakie
2nd April 2016, 14:21
So english is illegal?

Just never recognised as the actual language in law. That is is the national language goes without saying ... which is why it has never been said in legislation I guess.

Akzle
2nd April 2016, 14:50
Just never recognised as the actual language in law. That is is the national language goes without saying ... which is why it has never been said in legislation I guess.

in legislation, ironically written in.... Unglush. :facepalm:

Jin
2nd April 2016, 14:58
in legislation, ironically written in.... Unglush. :facepalm:
So when you get stopped by cops, go to court etc refuse to correspond except in murray or signing. Imagine the whole machinery would grind to a halt if a lot of people did this :)

Akzle
2nd April 2016, 15:07
So when you get stopped by cops, go to court etc refuse to correspond except in murray or signing. Imagine the whole machinery would grind to a halt if a lot of people did this :)

yes it would. Really fucks the white ones off.

The stasi do have translators at hand though, and even some dark skinned folk on "the force" with te korero.

Voltaire
2nd April 2016, 15:09
in legislation, ironically written in.... Unglush. :facepalm:

that's the downside of non written languages I suppose, they have to rely on an alphabet Romans knocked up 2000 years ago, still could be worse, cyrillic letters would make it harder.

trufflebutter
2nd April 2016, 15:25
you fucken serious? English isnt even an official language here. Just de facto.

Ako reo, tenetene kanohi.

You seemed to have left out a rather poignant word from your google search...''English is a de facto official language'' tika kia mohio koutou

awa355
2nd April 2016, 16:22
At least we don't have to learn this stuff.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/Capture_1.jpg

Wait a minute,,,, isn't this part of the road code?? :facepalm:

Big Dog
2nd April 2016, 17:14
Curious (and bored),

So if I give someone the fingers as the result of a 'close shave' at an intersection, or shake a closed fist at anyone as I ride past him, does that mean I am simply expressing myself using an official language? Therefore no offence should be taken? :shutup::shutup:

Does sign language have swear words? :motu:
Aye. A few swear words.
All the special protections guarantee you is that you are entitled to be heard in Māori or NZSL for legal, governmental and a few other matters of you believe you would be more comfortable or you would be disadvantaged in English.

It does not guarantee you will not be prosecuted for obscenity.

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Big Dog
2nd April 2016, 17:17
you're sounding pretty old and white there buddy.

Legally, the languages of nz, are te reo maaori, and sign language.
/discussion.

"have the right to have services provided".
Jesus fucking fuck.
That there be an assumption... and a little racist.

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Akzle
2nd April 2016, 17:30
You seemed to have left out a rather poignant word from your google search...''English is a de facto official language''

tika kia mohio koutou

no, the word was in there. Read it agin.

no google search required. Hang a round a while you'll realise i've been anti-govt for a while, and occasionally, when the moon is blowing the right way, deign to enlighten the kb dawgs.

Akzle
2nd April 2016, 17:32
That there be an assumption... and a little racist.

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me, racist? Who'd ever guess.

Big Dog
2nd April 2016, 17:34
me, racist? Who'd ever guess.
I doubt I am as old or white as you seem to think, but feel free to take a stab in the dark.

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Big Dog
2nd April 2016, 17:43
Yes it does - even if not officially taught...


Curious (and bored),

So if I give someone the fingers as the result of a 'close shave' at an intersection, or shake a closed fist at anyone as I ride past him, does that mean I am simply expressing myself using an official language? Therefore no offence should be taken? :shutup::shutup:

Does sign language have swear words? :motu:


Does 'bullshit' count as a swearword? If so .... then yes.
http://nzsl.vuw.ac.nz/signs/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&s=Fuck&hs=&l=&lg=&tag=&usage=

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eldog
2nd April 2016, 17:56
At least we don't have to learn this stuff.

Wait a minute,,,, isn't this part of the road code?? :facepalm:

Hyrogrifphics....

Imagine writing down the answers to the test, would take longer than the road test.

Wonder if they used short hand?

Giggle translate says "Go get your bike out of the garage and take it for a blast past the newest piramid turn left at the Sphinx and follow the course of the wadi for a few thousand paces, turn left at the slaves huts and once you pass the Valley of the Kings of GP then head home"

trufflebutter
2nd April 2016, 19:13
no, the word was in there. Read it agin.

no google search required. Hang a round a while you'll realise i've been anti-govt for a while, and occasionally, when the moon is blowing the right way, deign to enlighten the kb dawgs.

So you'd agree that English is an official language here in NZ then, de facto or otherwise?:niceone:

PS: I have been around a lot longer than you may realise :msn-wink:

Moi
2nd April 2016, 20:03
http://nzsl.vuw.ac.nz/signs/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&s=Fuck&hs=&l=&lg=&tag=&usage=

As with kids learning English, you don't normally teach those words or expressions...

But sometimes you can have a teaching moment...

Very early in a year, one English class I taught had a young teenage girl who spent most of her time at school trying to shock... it was her attempt as a claim to fame...
One day she turned round to another young lass and said "You're a bitch!" The class fell instantly silent, as classes do at times like that, and those who were nearest to me looked at me to see what I would do. I looked up, but before I could say anything, the young lass put down her pen, looked at Miss Shock You with My Language and said, "No, I'm not! I'm not a canine." At this point about two-thirds of the class laughed, I found it difficult to not also laugh out loud... Miss Shock You with My Language didn't know what to say or do however she did have her vocabulary extended that day...

EJK
2nd April 2016, 20:28
At least we don't have to learn this stuff.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/Capture_1.jpg

Wait a minute,,,, isn't this part of the road code?? :facepalm:

Have you tried Chinese?

<img width="500" src="http://41.media.tumblr.com/9f2557c7f91f1fe0790f49b10bd90e5f/tumblr_mqa1jgnbvh1qjokd1o1_500.jpg" />

husaberg
2nd April 2016, 20:48
Have you tried Chinese?


I prefer this much much more.

http://www.killthehydra.com/wp-content/uploads/code-dat-ass-gif.gif
It has less characters than Chinese, but more character imo.

Banditbandit
4th April 2016, 11:31
Have you tried Chinese?



I've seen some cute ones - but the opportunity has never presented itself.


http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=2177867

awa355
4th April 2016, 12:06
Have you tried Chinese?

<img width="500" src="http://41.media.tumblr.com/9f2557c7f91f1fe0790f49b10bd90e5f/tumblr_mqa1jgnbvh1qjokd1o1_500.jpg" />

Their road code??

I'll try, "Wen apploching wed army tank giv waa at oll tim'z. ezplshhly in Tinniman sqare " :shutup::shutup:

pritch
4th April 2016, 19:38
So english is illegal?

Yes, but English is OK though.

Saw recent mention of a court case where a major player, being deaf, rquested an interpreter. His request was refused. I'd like to know how that works?

Akzle
4th April 2016, 20:04
Yes, but English is OK though.

Saw recent mention of a court case where a major player, being deaf, rquested an interpreter. His request was refused. I'd like to know how that works?

court exists for the benefit of lawyers, judges, jews and banks.

Who's on the other side is a bit irrelevant.

husaberg
4th April 2016, 20:55
:laugh::weird::rolleyes:
http://now8news.com/man-arrested-for-pimping-blind-disabled-goat-on-craigslist-but-not-before-making-over-100k/
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/279770/goat-rape-caryville-florida/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/man-arrested-having-sex-goat-7085831

Big Dog
4th April 2016, 23:46
Yes, but English is OK though.

Saw recent mention of a court case where a major player, being deaf, rquested an interpreter. His request was refused. I'd like to know how that works?
Courts can and do refuse where in cannot be shown that the defendant or witness would be disadvantaged by not having one or that our equivalent of due process would be hampered by the delays of getting one.
When I was doing an introductory course in sign language the tutor pointed out a couple of times she was aware of one being refused.
One was because a prosecution witness requested one but a court approved one would not be available for some time.
Another was because the defendant was known to be difficult and had a long history before the courts and was known to lip read and partially hear.

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