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Goosifer
13th April 2016, 18:52
Tomfoolering around with 3D printing I made up a few parts for the bike. The idea was to see what could be done, what shouldn't be done and how long it will all last.
This is a very basic breakdown of the procedure I used, for those who may be interested.
I started with a slightly munted sprocket cover I had spare, stripped off the coating and bodged it together.
http://i.imgur.com/Cxz4loy.jpg
A series of photo's were taken from various angles. The photos are imported into an application called Photoscan, which constructs a 3D model of the object.
Highest quality setting and good lighting help a lot, but using a flash is not a good idea.
http://i.imgur.com/4RaXBT6.jpg
The Photoscan model is taken into a modeling package where it is used as a base. The additional parts I designed for the 3D print, are modeled to conform to the base to ensure a good fit.
http://i.imgur.com/AKq9y3M.jpg
Once the model is 3D printed in ABS plastic, it's sanded, treated with acetone for additional strength, primed and painted. (Added some metal mesh and bolts to finish it off)
http://i.imgur.com/OYtzeJn.jpg
And finally fitted.
http://i.imgur.com/sz4qT3m.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZotZ8VB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/L2oOrhd.jpg
Another printed part: The only difference here is the parts were simple enough to measure so no need for multiple photographs.
Headlight proxy model.
http://i.imgur.com/xZT47jq.jpg
Cover modeled to fit the proxy.
http://i.imgur.com/89YTIhy.jpg
A few CG renders to give a better idea how it will look finished.
http://i.imgur.com/eyvaDU4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gV6UuhS.jpg
The mesh is divided up and laid out before printing
http://i.imgur.com/YMVI409.jpg
3D Printed and painted.
http://i.imgur.com/vFOTpJS.jpg
Fitted to the headlight
http://i.imgur.com/8RlxFWN.jpg
Akzle
13th April 2016, 19:26
technology eh.
Some interesting shit.
AllanB
13th April 2016, 19:33
Bloody good work mate. What's the lifespan of that stuff?
F5 Dave
13th April 2016, 20:27
That's just a little bit more than impressive. Bet the ink cost a pretty penny for the cover.
tigertim20
13th April 2016, 20:45
that is fantastic.
what sort out outlay is required to be able to make that kind of stuff?
I had wondered what the limitations were with 3d printing parts for spaces like engine bays etc where they might be subjected to heat etc
bogan
13th April 2016, 20:50
That looks like a fantastic print job. What model printer is that? and did you have any issues with part cooling warping, etc. I've dabbled with a few, but the print quality is just nowhere near what is required for a useable part.
Ocean1
13th April 2016, 21:20
Very nice. There's a bit more work there than just tomfoolering around. :laugh:
How accurate is that photoscan?
And is it the standard or pro version?
jonbuoy
14th April 2016, 02:08
That's bloody amazing- you had to manually enter in critical dimensions to the photo scan?
Paul in NZ
14th April 2016, 08:29
Like everyone else I was kinda dismissive of 3D printers when I first heard about them. I mentally put them into the ‘Interesting toy’ sort of thing. Fact is they are a lot more than that. We use them at work a lot now. Custom built enclosures for electronics etc.
Biggest breakthrough for me was when I purchased a new mountain bike helmet. It has a break away mount for a gopro but no adaptor for a light mount. 5 mins on the internet and I found a guy that had already designed one and put it up on a free for use site. Sent the file to the printer and in a few minutes I had it in my hand and its perfect…
These things are awesome….
Goosifer
14th April 2016, 08:32
Bloody good work mate. What's the lifespan of that stuff?
Thanks!
So far, it's 15 months on and everything is still in one piece.
There are some signs of stress and de-lamination on the first few items I printed, but I am not at all surprised considering I was still getting the hang of it, and the free software I used was terrible (i.e no temperature, speed or wall thickness controls)
My later prints are much better as I've gotten my head around which print settings work best, what the material limitations are and ways to design around them, these prints are still looking good.
Goosifer
14th April 2016, 08:37
that is fantastic.
what sort out outlay is required to be able to make that kind of stuff?
I had wondered what the limitations were with 3d printing parts for spaces like engine bays etc where they might be subjected to heat etc
The outlay required isn't too bad
Hardware:
A mid range PC would work just fine,
3D Modeling:
For Modeling there is free 3D software like Blender3D, FreeCAD, Sketchup and 123DApp, they are more than adequate and there is a lot of free training material on Youtube.
Slicers:
3D slicers, these programs handle the printer setup, there are a lot of free ones about that work really well, so long as your printer is compatible.
Printers:
For the FDM (plastic filament) printers, you can get a $400 printer kit off Aliexpress or anything up to $4000+ for a slick out the box unit. Its pretty much down to marketing, component quality and and how much time you are willing to spend tinkering
FDM printers have pretty much hit their development ceiling, time to start looking at the alternatives like these http://www.gizmo3dprinters.com.au/
If you don't want to shell out for a 3D printer, use a service like https://www.3dhubs.com/
I'm not sure what you intend to make or what temperatures it will be exposed to, but keep in mind that while the melting point of ABS is around 225C to 250C, it will start to soften from about 60C, so prolonged exposure to temperatures well below the melting point can still result in warping. Printed parts generally have strength issues, I'd be hesitant to use it for critical components.
Goosifer
14th April 2016, 08:38
That looks like a fantastic print job. What model printer is that? and did you have any issues with part cooling warping, etc. I've dabbled with a few, but the print quality is just nowhere near what is required for a useable part.
I'm using a cheapo XYZ Davinci, while I have done a few mods to get better prints and ditched their proprietary software in favor of Simplify3D, the prints still need a lot of sanding and prep work to get a good finish
I haven't had much issue with warping or shrinking, using a heated print bed helps. To be on the safe side I also print a large raft base for items that look like they'll be a problem.
Goosifer
14th April 2016, 08:43
Very nice. There's a bit more work there than just tomfoolering around. :laugh:
How accurate is that photoscan?
And is it the standard or pro version?
I use the Standard version, the Pro features would be lost on me, also the price difference is huge.
It can be hit and miss, it mostly depends on the quality of photos and subject matter. If the subject is shiny or reflective you aren't going to have much luck unless you can find some way of removing the shine (masking tape, plastidip etc). If you are looking to reproduce a part, the best that photoscan can do is provide you with an accurate model for reference which you can build a clean model over, I wouldn't print a scanned model.
Goosifer
14th April 2016, 08:48
That's bloody amazing- you had to manually enter in critical dimensions to the photo scan?
Thanks....Photoscan will only give you a proportionately correct model, you will have to scale it size in a modeling application.
Goosifer
14th April 2016, 08:52
That's just a little bit more than impressive. Bet the ink cost a pretty penny for the cover.
Thanks...The cover is still the bike's original cover, just with a hole cut in it and the newly printed piece bolted to it (the green mesh in the 3D viewport). I think the print used around 20m of filament, so about $3.
OddDuck
14th April 2016, 11:00
that is fantastic.
what sort out outlay is required to be able to make that kind of stuff?
I had wondered what the limitations were with 3d printing parts for spaces like engine bays etc where they might be subjected to heat etc
Something I've been hearing is that people are printing obscure parts in 3D as part of the classic restoration scene... not as parts for use directly, as masters for foundry casting. You can print in relatively light plastic, then treat it as a disposable burn-out core. Greensand casting in aluminium etc. So the 3D printing is a way of getting new bits in cast metal for very old vehicles.
A_J_T
14th April 2016, 13:15
Loving this, mind blowing work mate :first:
Ocean1
14th April 2016, 13:32
Something I've been hearing is that people are printing obscure parts in 3D as part of the classic restoration scene... not as parts for use directly, as masters for foundry casting. You can print in relatively light plastic, then treat it as a disposable burn-out core. Greensand casting in aluminium etc. So the 3D printing is a way of getting new bits in cast metal for very old vehicles.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/162399-The-Bucket-Foundry
BruceXL350
14th April 2016, 13:52
Hi i am presently restoring a 1974 Honda XL350 (Silver/ Blue model) out of the spare parts that I have. I require a Left hand side cover (as sitting on the bike) that fits over the battery side. Nothing on ebay or the worlds as it seems!!!!
Stumbled over this site by a Google search and mind picked up as to the use of a 3D printer for one or two.
Can you make up a blank side cover. Its just matt black in colour and has two supporting slots at the top.Held on by a rubber strap at the bottom, hence they were often 'lost" and are now like rockin horse shit to find.
I can have painted up and can source new decals on ebay but need the side cover.
Please advise???
Ocean1
14th April 2016, 19:09
Hi i am presently restoring a 1974 Honda XL350 (Silver/ Blue model) out of the spare parts that I have. I require a Left hand side cover (as sitting on the bike) that fits over the battery side. Nothing on ebay or the worlds as it seems!!!!
Stumbled over this site by a Google search and mind picked up as to the use of a 3D printer for one or two.
Can you make up a blank side cover. Its just matt black in colour and has two supporting slots at the top.Held on by a rubber strap at the bottom, hence they were often 'lost" and are now like rockin horse shit to find.
I can have painted up and can source new decals on ebay but need the side cover.
Please advise???
Best advise is you should post up some pictures, to help me remember the two I once had...
oldskool
17th May 2016, 18:27
Nice work Goosifer,
Here's my tomfoolery I've been mucking around with over the last 12 months. Some of it has now been on the bike for 80 hours riding time. The starter shield is showing some sign of delaminating but they're just hairline cracks in the styrene that has floated to the surface and shined up in the acetone vapour polish process. A simple revapour in acetone smooths it over again. The startershield is holding up well given that it is taking a bit of a pounding from many offs, rocks thrown at me and is simply held on by 2 zipties. The twinair foam filter cage, being near fuel fumes, hasn't shown signs of breaking down yet, however in my mind it is a cheap disposable item and a new one can quickly and easily be printed out. The benefits of the modified design far outweigh the possibility of having to print off a new one. I can quickly swap out the filter in the pits and the performance boost from the quick change is noticeable. Just last week I trialed a new filter cage designed for a GS125 foam sock, they're 1/10th the price of the unique Freeride Twinair and the bike was ridden over 80km in woodhill forest on the Jolly Roosta. Suffice to say I'm happy with the performance result.
http://s32.postimg.org/quv34gdn5/female_filter_cage_proto.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/quv34gdn5/)
http://s32.postimg.org/o13vqqjv5/gs125_foamfilter_mod01.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/o13vqqjv5/)
http://s32.postimg.org/z64bsd91t/gs125_foamfilter_mod02.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/z64bsd91t/)
http://s32.postimg.org/gyeudgowh/gs125_foamfilter_mod03.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/gyeudgowh/)
http://s32.postimg.org/z0v227ehd/gs125_foamfilter_mod04.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/z0v227ehd/)
http://s32.postimg.org/efabafspd/male_female_adaptor_mod_01.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/efabafspd/)
http://s32.postimg.org/jgdkhfrpt/male_female_adaptor_mod_02.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/jgdkhfrpt/)
http://s32.postimg.org/4rfp9n8cx/male_female_filter_cage_mod.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/4rfp9n8cx/)
http://s32.postimg.org/kpka5eu4x/speedo_sensor_shield.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/kpka5eu4x/)
http://s32.postimg.org/m2frcivpt/starter_shield_speedo_shield.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/m2frcivpt/)
http://s32.postimg.org/52ju0k1ld/starter_shield.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/52ju0k1ld/)
Goosifer
23rd May 2016, 11:01
Great stuff!
Looks as if the starter shield is holding up rather well, much better than I would have expected. What wall thickness and infill % are you printing at?
oldskool
24th May 2016, 07:08
Great stuff!
Looks as if the starter shield is holding up rather well, much better than I would have expected. What wall thickness and infill % are you printing at?
Cheers man,
I fast printed the starter shield with a 2mm wall thickness, 75% infill @ 0.2 Z resolution. It took around 5 hours to print with those settings. So plenty of scope to play with. (My printer can print down to 0.1 Z resolution.) It was intended as a test but has held up really well. I'm pretty much satisfied with the ziptie held u-bracket in the design. It's had plenty of knocks and hasn't twisted around the frame using just 2 zips, my next design has a tab to secure another ziptie to the Hyde at the bottom but I haven't tried it as this shield hasn't broken yet. I contoured the shield to wrap across the top lip of the Hyde sump guard so there is a lot of bracing from that too.
Ocean1
24th May 2016, 13:31
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