Demerits question

[Jin]

Are demerits for bike and car different? Eg if I collect 100 demerits on the bike can I still drive the car?

[James Deuce]

No. You have one license with multiple classes, not multiple licenses to cover each class.

[jellywrestler]

No. You have one license with multiple classes, not multiple licenses to cover each class.

bullshit, if those demerits are for pulling wheelies which one can't do in a car then they don't apply to the other vehicle. same thing with no seat belt in a car, you don't have a seat belt on a bike so it's irrelevant..

[Madness]

Slow down, Rossi.

[James Deuce]

bullshit, if those demerits are for pulling wheelies which one can't do in a car then they don't apply to the other vehicle. same thing with no seat belt in a car, you don't have a seat belt on a bike so it's irrelevant..
Fair points. Stoppies are a bitch in cars too.

[5150]

I think for some on here there should also be a license to breathe. Once you reach 100 demerit points, they turn off your oxygen.

[Maha]

I think for some on here there should also be a license to breath. Once you reach 100 demerit points, they turn off your oxygen.

I know there are 30% (or 23 people for argument sake) who slot into that category.

[OddDuck]

Ask yourself how much of a sense of humour they've got about no warrant, no rego, speeding etc... why would the law be nice about it?

+1 on slow down.

[EJK]

Or don't slow down and don't get caught? :weird:

[Madness]

Or don't slow down and don't get caught? :weird:

It seems this strategy possibly doesn't work well for all.

[nodrog]

for fucksakes, feel the retardation.

[sidecar bob]

for fucksakes, feel the retardation.

Its practically palpable in fact.

[Akzle]

hahahahahha. License.

[Stylo]

No. You have one license with multiple classes, not multiple licenses to cover each class.

True. The demerit point system is not subjective to the class of vehicle.

If you have 100 points you're on the bus or on your bicycle. Or you can walk to the taxi stand

[Erelyes]

Fair points. Stoppies are a bitch in cars too.

Yeah but are stoppies illegal? 'Excessive display of deceleration' ?

[Moi]

... if those demerits are for pulling wheelies which one can't do in a car...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONmlsxM20qU

[Moi]

Gentlemen, the word you are looking for is "licence" - a noun, meaning a permit or a permission to undertake some activity having shown you have the required skills to undertake that activity. That part is the licensing part...

[Stylo]

That would be careless or dangerous driving ...

[Moi]

That would be careless or dangerous driving ...

If you are speaking of the wee Vespa, I think we could call it gioia di vivere :laugh:

[Akzle]

"licence" - a noun, meaning a permit or a permission to undertake some activity having shown you have the required skills to undertake that activity. That part is the licensing part...

your fucking joking right?

[pritch]

Are demerits for bike and car different? Eg if I collect 100 demerits on the bike can I still drive the car?

No, but you can save demerits by taking the bus. :whistle:

[jellywrestler]

Or you can walk to the taxi stand

down here we can ring for a taxi and it picks us up...

[caspernz]

Are demerits for bike and car different? Eg if I collect 100 demerits on the bike can I still drive the car?

I see two questions. 1 is no. 2 is yes, but don't get caught. This is KB after all...:banana::banana:

[Jin]

No. You have one license with multiple classes, not multiple licenses to cover each class.
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for fucksakes, feel the retardation.
I have a court appearance coming up. Can you hold my hand going in? Tell them im a stand up guy?

[rastuscat]

Chortle. Azkill and license in one sentence. Tee hee.

[Erelyes]

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So.... you're becoming familiar with the consequences for your actions after the fact?

Heh.... sucks to be you. (I only say that cos I was there once, and I know how much it sucks)

[Taxythingy]

Yeah but are stoppies illegal? 'Excessive display of deceleration' ?

Na, but they'll attempt a 'Sustained loss of traction' on that rear wheel.

[MarkH]

if I collect 100 demerits on the bike can I still drive the car?

Yes, you can also still ride the bike.
BUT: If you get pulled over and have your license checked you will be in big trouble.
i.e. get caught doing it and you will be in for a bad day!

[Berries]

BUT: If you get pulled over and have your license checked you will be in big trouble.
Yeah, but how likely is it that someone who has picked up 100 points in two years is going to get pulled over?

Oh, hang on.

[Erelyes]

I thought your licence had to be surrendered on the spot if you went over 100 demerits now.

[Madness]

I thought your licence had to be surrendered on the spot if you went over 100 demerits now.

Unless it's changed recently, and I doubt it because due process, the points aren't recorded against your licence until either the accompanying fine is paid, or the fine is passed to the District Court for collection. Once this happens and the >100 points is reached, a suspension order is generated, which is sent to a local popo station for service. If you're not home for service and the popo get lazy, they can then file the order in the system and pull it out the next time you have a "contact" with he popo eg, roadside. You can still hold on to your actual licence (tell 'em you lost it) but you're still suspended regardless, once you've been served with the notice.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Demerits in force from date of ticket, not date of payment.. I know a couple of people who have been caught out by that one

[Madness]

Demerits in force from date of ticket, not date of payment.. I know a couple of people who have been caught out by that one

The Demerit Points are dated the date of the offence and this is what matters when establishing that 100 points is accrued over a 2-year period. The point was that (to my understanding) the wheels of bureaucracy don't spin quickly and if you get a ticket that puts you over, it's going to be weeks or months before you have to pay the piper, rather than on the spot as Erelyes suggests.

[Berries]

The point was that (to my understanding) the wheels of bureaucracy don't spin quickly and if you get a ticket that puts you over, it's going to be weeks or months before you have to pay the piper.
That'd be right, the fucking Jocks are behind it all.

[Erelyes]

The Demerit Points are dated the date of the offence and this is what matters when establishing that 100 points is accrued over a 2-year period. The point was that (to my understanding) the wheels of bureaucracy don't spin quickly and if you get a ticket that puts you over, it's going to be weeks or months before you have to pay the piper, rather than on the spot as Erelyes suggests.

You're right, I was partly mistaken.

Demerits apply effective from the date of offense, but the demerit points only go on when you are actually found guilty (i.e. pay the ticket, or it goes to collections, or you lose in court).

However, once you go over the 100pt threshold, you are then obliged to surrender your licence. Including if the Popo pull you over. In the past it was only a bailiff that could seize your licence.

[Madness]

In the past it was only a bailiff that could seize your licence.

Yeah, nah. I lost my licence in either 1996 or 1997 to excess Demerit Points. It was a popo that knocked on my door that morning and I believe they've always had the ability/power to serve a suspension roadside. You see it happen often on Police 10-7 where a random has their suspension served roadside and have done for yonks too. I think you're right about the Bailiffs being involved, just not the exclusively bit. It makes sense as it frees up the popo for keeping our roads safer revenue collecting.

A tip for those who might need it; If you're applying for a Limited Licence, seek a supplimentary vehicle to be added to that Licence - normally they only include your primary vehicle, often a work or company vehicle. The thing is, if that particular vehicle it deemed unusable during the period of your Limited Licence and you have to drive another, you must have that vehicle's rego number added to the Limited Licence, otherwise technically you're driving while disqualified. DAMHIK.

[Erelyes]

Yeah, nah. I lost my licence in either 1996 or 1996 to excess Demerit Points. It was a popo that knocked on my door that morning and I believe they've always had the ability/power to serve a suspension roadside. You see it happen often on Police 10-7 where a random has their suspension served roadside and have done for yonks too. I think you're right about the Bailiffs being involved, just not the exclusively bit. It makes sense as it frees up the popo for keeping our roads safer revenue collecting.

A tip for those who might need it; If you're applying for a Limited Licence, seek a supplimentary vehicle to be added to that Licence - normally they only include your primary vehicle, often a work or company vehicle. The thing is, if that particular vehicle it deemed unusable during the period of your Limited Licence and you have to drive another, you must have that vehicle's rego number added to the Limited Licence, otherwise technically you're driving while disqualified. DAMHIK.

I chalked up 100-and-mumble demerits back around 05?. I was then busted for 'participating in an illegal drag race', car impounded, but still had licence in hand. Was only a while later when a MOJ officer came knocking to take my licence away, which was fairly moot as I had a date set to go to court to get my ass suspended anyhoo.

Served the 'demerit suspension' and the 'boy racer' suspension concurrently, though.