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Title says it all really.
Also can flush mount indicators easily seen? Or would smaller lower profile led things be better?
Yes, and the indicators are legal so long as you can see them from the required angles. There is a handy diagram on the LTSA/NZTA/VTNZ/YHA/GOATSE or some other applicable acronyms website.
Yes, and the indicators are legal so long as you can see them from the required angles. There is a handy diagram on the LTSA/NZTA/VTNZ/YHA/GOATSE or some other applicable acronyms website.
According to the rules, it's unlikely that either is legal. But then you may very well pass a WoF depending on the inspector.
I was failed on the flush mounts that were on the R1 when I bought it because you couldn't even see them at the required angle!
According to the rules, it's unlikely that either is legal. But then you may very well pass a WoF depending on the inspector.
I was failed on the flush mounts that were on the R1 when I bought it because you couldn't even see them at the required angle!
Thanks i think if you cant see them from the front then probably not very safe either so will give them a miss.
Taxythingy
4th May 2016, 13:43
Fuck knows how some of the modern cars & utes are getting through the system. Can't see those indicators for shit unless... oh. I live in Christchurch. Never mind.
Scubbo
4th May 2016, 14:06
FXR's are inbuilt, the rear lights are a joke, people tooting all the time say'n i'm not indicating out... /flys through Wof :cool:
also, and it's only the sneaky nazis that will pick it, the lenses have to be stamped with dot? approval number.
Tail lights and front indicators?
Back to front?
Arse about face?
Push Me- Pull You?
Labour party intelligence?
Green Party caucus?
??:confused:
Those integrated tail lights and flush mount d front indicators were on my mates gixer when he bought it. They are as useless as tits on a nun! He is changing them to something visible on a sunny day.
rastuscat
4th May 2016, 18:58
I've seen a few bikes with modded lights at the rear which look really cool. But don't work to communicate with the people behind.
Tail tidies are all about form over function. I don't have much time for them to be fair. Naff.
AllanB
4th May 2016, 21:06
Tail tidies rock. Just don't ride in the rain ........ your back gets wet. Moist.
Signals - I usually alter mine from bread box sized horrors to smaller units but ensure they are bright. LEDs have visibility issues in bright light that have stopped me going that way yet.
Integrated stop/turn units look cool as hell BUT average Joe in a car is NEVER looking for that shit so you are asking for trouble IMO.
In theory you need correct markings E or DOT for legality. But many WOF shops are unaware/ignore.
Berries
4th May 2016, 21:17
Title says it all really.
Given your other thread about your 100 points I would stick with OE if I was you. It might not look as cool but neither does sitting on the bus with the poor people.
Tail tidies rock. Just don't ride in the rain ........ your back gets wet. Moist.
Signals - I usually alter mine from bread box sized horrors to smaller units but ensure they are bright. LEDs have visibility issues in bright light that have stopped me going that way yet.
Integrated stop/turn units look cool as hell BUT average Joe in a car is NEVER looking for that shit so you are asking for trouble IMO.
In theory you need correct markings E or DOT for legality. But many WOF shops are unaware/ignore.
Wwhen you go to compliance a bike the only thing they look at for the e markings are the headlight and the rear reflector in my experience
IMHO, the whole thing is a fucking joke. If you run OE lighting, then by definition it's legal as long as the bulbs work. But every day, I see modern cars where you can't see the far side indicators within a 45° angle.
IMHO, the whole thing is a fucking joke. If you run OE lighting, then by definition it's legal as long as the bulbs work. But every day, I see modern cars where you can't see the far side indicators within a 45° angle.
Hopefully this will all be sorted soon.
Ive noticed over the last year a lot of cars not turning their lights on. And others that just put the eye lid lights on not the full headlights presumably they think it looks cool. Seems they dont realise the rear lights dont turn on when they do that. Audi SUVs are notorious for this.
skippa1
5th May 2016, 06:14
Ive noticed over the last year a lot of cars not turning their lights on. And others that just put the eye lid lights on not the full headlights presumably they think it looks cool. Seems they dont realise the rear lights dont turn on when they do that. Audi SUVs are notorious for this.
You might find that there is no choice on the "eyelid" lights, i have a new Commodore, you cant turn them off.
Ive noticed over the last year a lot of cars not turning their lights on. And others that just put the eye lid lights on not the full headlights presumably they think it looks cool. Seems they don't realise the rear lights don't turn on when they do that. Audi SUVs are notorious for this.
You might find that there is no choice on the "eyelid" lights, i have a new Commodore, you can't turn them off.
Are these eyelid lights actually Daytime Running Lights?
Are these eyelid lights actually Daytime Running Lights?
Yeah DRLs forgot the name. Idiots think they are good enough to drive at night not realising the rear lights arnt on.
skippa1
5th May 2016, 13:49
Are these eyelid lights actually Daytime Running Lights?
Yes...........
Kawasaki has factory flush mount indicators, aftermarket ones I've seen so Jack fucking shit other than cost you money, also the intergrated tail lights aren't as easily seen.. Especially if they are smoked lenses...
Hubris
17th May 2016, 15:40
I'm curious as well. My stock tail is not a pretty thing (well, neither is the one on my bike:bleh:) and while I wouldn't remove the fender entirely, it could certainly do with some tidying and a different mount for the plate. I have accessory options through the OEM for LED-based stalks for the tail indicators, but those don't really help with the appearance.
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