Joseph Parker vs Carlos Takam Stream [Archive]

oldrider

22nd May 2016, 10:22

Cant help with the stream,close to pulling the pin and wasting the cash to watch it,no matter the outcome its a bit of history in the making so probably will.

I did not yield to that temptation but I was wishing that I had - even watching the printed blog updates was exciting - well done young Parker! :2thumbsup

Takam was never ever going to be easy! :bash:

Just watched the whole fight - big step up for Parker - if he ever wins the world title it will be because of what he learned in this fight from Takam IMHO.

Oakie

22nd May 2016, 12:48

I see Dean Lonergan is having a big rant about his loss of revenue to streamers and vowing to go after them.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/80250556/joseph-parker-fight-illegally-broadcast-to-more-than-100000-viewers

HenryDorsetCase

22nd May 2016, 13:06

yokel

22nd May 2016, 13:13

Was not a bad fight, but I see Parker kept stretching his back before and during the fight https://youtu.be/2FvxhKiWz8I?t=7m18s
Was he carrying a bit of a back issue?

ellipsis

22nd May 2016, 13:49

a back issue?

..isn't that 'old news'...

jasonu

22nd May 2016, 14:58

Anyone know of an online stream for tonight's fight?

Preferably one that won't give me a virus or be laden with ads for single ladies in my area.

Boxing.....:whocares::yawn:

oldrider

22nd May 2016, 15:28

Boxing.....:whocares::yawn:

There is a switch - it's not compulsory! :no: But you knew that already didn't you! :spanking: - :lol:

Maha

22nd May 2016, 15:46

There is a switch - it's not compulsory! :no: But you knew that already didn't you! :spanking: - :lol:

Most at the club last were there for the fight and thought started just after 8pm, needless to say after six games of pool and as much beer I was ready to go home by 10pm..but we stayed. Thankfully the fights prior didn't go the full round otherwise the main fight may have been closer to a midnight start.

WNJ

22nd May 2016, 16:33

Was streaming free on more than one site I watched it free on one site, ( don't do farce book )I don't and never will pay for shit sky, let alone $50 for a boxing fight maybe if it was a title fight I would?

HenryDorsetCase

22nd May 2016, 21:28

Its up on youtube for anyone still interested.

WTF is with that low left hand. Sure, Ali did it, but you know, Ali.

JP looked tired - needs more condition. He has a great boxing head though.

oldrider

22nd May 2016, 23:17

Its up on youtube for anyone still interested.

WTF is with that low left hand. Sure, Ali did it, but you know, Ali.

JP looked tired - needs more condition. He has a great boxing head though.

Been waiting to hear them interview Carlos Takam but - nothing? - Has anyone else seen or heard anything from him since the fight? :confused:

Maha

23rd May 2016, 07:25

Been waiting to hear them interview Carlos Takam but - nothing? - Has anyone else seen or heard anything from him since the fight? :confused:

I think he has gone to join the Warriors.

oldrider

23rd May 2016, 10:57

I think he has gone to join the Warriors.

Ouch! - I think he is better than that! :lol: - The only true verdict is a knockout - points are too subjective - although that result looked fair enough! :yes:

Maha

23rd May 2016, 11:25

Ouch! - I think he is better than that! :lol: - The only true verdict is a knockout - points are too subjective - although that result looked fair enough! :yes:

Agree, 116-112 punches over 12 rounds is close, I felt at about round 9-10 that Parker would need to put Takam on his arse.

scott411

23rd May 2016, 16:02

Agree, 116-112 punches over 12 rounds is close, I felt at about round 9-10 that Parker would need to put Takam on his arse.

its not punches, its points per round, with the winner getting 10 points per round, so they are saying that Parker won 8 rounds to 4 for Takam,

Maha

23rd May 2016, 16:11

its not punches, its points per round, with the winner getting 10 points per round, so they are saying that Parker won 8 rounds to 4 for Takam,

I stand corrected, thank you for pointing that out I did think that an average of 9 or so landed punches per round was light.

ellipsis

23rd May 2016, 19:15

...he has to do a lot of work before he could go near Anthony Joshua...

HenryDorsetCase

23rd May 2016, 20:09

...he has to do a lot of work before he could go near Anthony Joshua...

Agreed, but Joshua has also only been fighting easy-beats. This was a real test for Parker. He needs some work on his D though.

Next opponent announced tomorrow.

Katman

23rd May 2016, 20:12

I thought he looked extremely casual about it all.

ellipsis

23rd May 2016, 20:33

I thought he looked extremely casual about it all.

...he did seem to get back into it relatively easy later in the bout...he did have a big learning curve in that fight, from third? round , but he dealt with it...

HenryDorsetCase

23rd May 2016, 21:17

...he did seem to get back into it relatively easy later in the bout...he did have a big learning curve in that fight, from third? round , but he dealt with it...

that 8th round was the highlight for me.

Like the man said "punches in bunches". Since the man who said it is Bryan Barry, you listen.

Berries

23rd May 2016, 23:40

You're a bunch of thieving bastards according to the tele.

Gremlin

24th May 2016, 00:44

You're a bunch of thieving bastards according to the tele.
Don't know if it was the telly or the radio. Analogy made that you wouldn't steal a shirt, but no problem once in your home.

Not strictly correct. The store has lost the shirt and loss is easily proven, not the case with digital products. Sky etc are assuming all those watching would have paid, but how do you prove that? Heard that even Longergan was it, that said, my family gets together and everyone pays $5. So uh... isn't that theft?

Will be an interesting test case at the very least (if it gets that far).

Grumph

24th May 2016, 06:54

Banditbandit

24th May 2016, 12:56

I thought he looked extremely casual about it all.

If he looked casual - just how good can Joseph be if he gets serious ..

Katman

24th May 2016, 13:29

If he looked casual - just how good can Joseph be if he gets serious ..

Good question.

But sauntering around the ring with his hands dangling at his sides looked far from serious.

Gremlin

24th May 2016, 13:31

I still disagree with his live streaming it though. it's hard enough for a promoter of any sporting event to make money in NZ. If this becomes normal, there's no incentive to hold anything here in NZ.
Agreed. Looks like Lonegan did himself no favours calling them scum, threatening to sue the lot. Now his staff are receiving abusive emails and the story is far bigger than the event they covered.

Not really interested in boxing, but Lonegan v public looks pretty good :corn:

Grubber

24th May 2016, 13:36

Agreed. Looks like Lonegan did himself no favours calling them scum, threatening to sue the lot. Now his staff are receiving abusive emails and the story is far bigger than the event they covered.

Not really interested in boxing, but Lonegan v public looks pretty good :corn:

Yea this was my issue with Lonegan...it was all about his dosh and not about the fight.
How is it that i can watch any other sport on tv at no cost but i cant with boxing....i guess it's still a sport isnt it?

Well done Parker!

Banditbandit

24th May 2016, 13:47

Yea this was my issue with Lonegan...it was all about his dosh and not about the fight.
How is it that i can watch any other sport on tv at no cost but i cant with boxing....i guess it's still a sport isnt it?

Well done Parker!

It's entertainment .. we pay for it ... and there are plenty of sports we can't watch for free - such as MotoGP live ...

oldrider

24th May 2016, 13:59

Good question.

But sauntering around the ring with his hands dangling at his sides looked far from serious.

Parker had never gone 12 rounds in a bout let alone facing a tough opponent at the same time - pacing himself through that was an accomplishment in it's self!

If you want to know how hard it is try sparring three three minute rounds against an average amateur and you will get an idea!

Takam is very tough and has more than an average heavyweight skill base and experience against top contenders to boot - Parker did well. (IMHO)

Still haven't found any Takam comments on the bout and the outcome? - Please post if any of you do come across any. :corn:

Katman

24th May 2016, 14:06

If you want to know how hard it is try sparring three three minute rounds against an average amateur and you will get an idea!

Yep, done that.

I'm well aware of how strenuous it is. (And that was back in my young days).

HenryDorsetCase

24th May 2016, 14:41

Lonegan's family getting together and chipping in $5 each for the group viewing is not dissimilar to what the guy did who live streamed it.
Sky make no rules as to how many people can watch one TV which has paid for the feed...see the pubs who had it on.

If this guy claims he had paid for it so he could show some of his friends....it's a possible answer.

I still disagree with his live streaming it though. it's hard enough for a promoter of any sporting event to make money in NZ. If this becomes normal, there's no incentive to hold anything here in NZ.

I will not give Sky TV one dollar. And remember, you can't just pay $50 and watch the event. (which I would happily do: in fact last month I happily paid $40 to watch ten rank amateur fights ranging from the very brutal to the "what the fuck was that").

But you can't just pay your fiddy dollar and watch. You have to buy a whole lot of other shit, sign up to a twelve month contract THEN pay your fiddy dollar.

And that business model can lick my sweaty ballbag.

So, What needs to happen? Work out some way of streaming it to the internets where I can sign up and pay money to do that.

Gremlin

24th May 2016, 14:46

But you can't just pay your fiddy dollar and watch. You have to buy a whole lot of other shit, sign up to a twelve month contract THEN pay your fiddy dollar.

And that business model can lick my sweaty ballbag.
Yeah, from what I read, it was $40 for monthly basic Sky, $50 a month for the additional Sport access, and then once off $50 for the fight.

Haha, fuck that. No wonder Sky is losing customers... :shit:

Maha

24th May 2016, 15:32

Good question.

But sauntering around the ring with his hands dangling at his sides looked far from serious.

Ali had that very same bad habit..:weird:
Always laughable that the less than amateur think they know better than what makes a World Champion.

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Woodman

24th May 2016, 17:53

Yea this was my issue with Lonegan...it was all about his dosh and not about the fight.
How is it that i can watch any other sport on tv at no cost but i cant with boxing....i guess it's still a sport isnt it?

Well done Parker!

Agreed, lonergan is far too inward focussed and has forgotten what sport is about. The minute him or kevin barry or even Joseph Parker use patriotism as a way of promotion they are two faced to then get pissed when we don't want to pay their fees.

sidecar bob

24th May 2016, 18:13

Agreed, lonergan is far too inward focussed and has forgotten what sport is about. The minute him or kevin barry or even Joseph Parker use patriotism as a way of promotion they are two faced to then get pissed when we don't want to pay their fees.

It's not their fees, it's their wages, taking his product without paying is in short, theft. What about we steal your meal ticket whatever that is, & get all pissy when you come after us & want to be paid?
Why do you expect it for nothing? I'd be quite confident that Lonergan had massive outgoings that need to be paid for.
I can't grasp this concept that the bout is somehow free public property.

Woodman

24th May 2016, 19:11

It's not their fees, it's their wages, taking his product without paying is in short, theft. What about we steal your meal ticket whatever that is, & get all pissy when you come after us & want to be paid?
Why do you expect it for nothing? I'd be quite confident that Lonergan had massive outgoings that need to be paid for.
I can't grasp this concept that the bout is somehow free public property.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with him making money from the fight, and would happily fork out, but he just needs to take a look at how he promotes it.

Swoop

24th May 2016, 19:12

Not really interested in boxing, but Lonegan v public looks pretty good :corn:

His brain injury, from when he played that pointy-ball game, appears to have come out of remission...
Either that or the time his braincells were destroyed at Hauraki.

Maha

24th May 2016, 19:21

His brain injury, from when he played that pointy-ball game, appears to have come out of remission...
Either that or the time his braincells were destroyed at Hauraki.

1991 V Australia....takes a knock at 0:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-NQq611x8k

Maha

24th May 2016, 20:48

If you want to know how hard it is try sparring three three minute rounds against an average amateur and you will get an idea!

I suspect he liked being punched around the ring and his less than amateur fight name was Steve 'The Penis Chaser' White.

His comment on this sentence confirms my suspicion. ''Fuck off cocksucker.''

Grubber

25th May 2016, 08:30

It's entertainment .. we pay for it ... and there are plenty of sports we can't watch for free - such as MotoGP live ...

Fair point but i pay Sky for most of that and then on top they charge me (or at least try) an added $50 to watch Parker. That's the bit that gets me!

Maha

25th May 2016, 08:40

Fair point but i pay Sky for most of that and then on top they charge me (or at least try) an added $50 to watch Parker. That's the bit that gets me!

And their pending rise in subscription will gather (in round figures) $1,000,000 per month @ 800,000 subscribers.

Grubber

25th May 2016, 08:44

Ali had that very same bad habit..:weird:
Always laughable that the less than amateur think they know better than what makes a World Champion.

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Yea he was a shocking boxer. Have no idea how he got to be world champ 4-5 times over.
Loved watching him as he was so damn fast no one new where the next punch was coming from.

Grubber

25th May 2016, 08:47

It's not their fees, it's their wages, taking his product without paying is in short, theft. What about we steal your meal ticket whatever that is, & get all pissy when you come after us & want to be paid?
Why do you expect it for nothing? I'd be quite confident that Lonergan had massive outgoings that need to be paid for.
I can't grasp this concept that the bout is somehow free public property.

Whist your point is corerct, my beef is why should we pay an extra $50 on top of my Sky to see it. All the other sports are in the package without issues, why not boxing?
I'll tell you why, it's all about money for the men on top and not the sport. When they see Parker the y see $$$$

HenryDorsetCase

25th May 2016, 08:54

Yea he was a shocking boxer. Have no idea how he got to be world champ 4-5 times over.
Loved watching him as he was so damn fast no one new where the next punch was coming from.

In his prime, yes. But, and especially later, he got hit a lot. Hence the Parkinsons.

I love watching Tyson. Brutal and efficient. Great head movement though.

Maha

25th May 2016, 09:00

Yea he was a shocking boxer. Have no idea how he got to be world champ 4-5 times over.
Loved watching him as he was so damn fast no one new where the next punch was coming from.

Katdashian would have you believe his style made it look like he sauntered around the ring with his hands dangling at his sides looking far from serious.
But that's just his less than amateur opinion.

Sugar Ray Leonard was the same. No shame in styling off a World Champ.

Maha

25th May 2016, 09:56

Whist your point is correct, my beef is why should we pay an extra $50 on top of my Sky to see it. All the other sports are in the package without issues, why not boxing?
I'll tell you why, it's all about money for the men on top and not the sport. When they see Parker the y see $$$$

....and would Sky feel bereft with any of their Tythe-scribers live streaming any of the sports events they ''pay'' for?
If someone has paid for product/service, then that person can feel free to do what ever he/she wants to with that product/service.

I am sure that if I were to buy a bucket of KFC and share it with my family/friends KFC wouldn't give it a shit, it's paid for and I paid the asking price without question.

oldrider

25th May 2016, 10:18

..I am sure that if I were to buy a bucket of KFC and share it with my family/friends KFC wouldn't give it a shit, it's paid for and I paid the asking price without question.

True but KFC probably isn't subject to copyright law or whatever that may be the difference? besides you were not on selling the KFC! :confused: or were you? :lol:

Maha

25th May 2016, 11:15

True but KFC probably isn't subject to copyright law or whatever that may be the difference? besides you were not on selling the KFC! :confused: or were you? :lol:

I could do, I paid for it. It's very hard to live stream chicken.

oldrider

25th May 2016, 11:41

I could do, I paid for it. It's very hard to live stream chicken.

You're right - bad idea, it wouldn't fly! :lol:

Grubber

25th May 2016, 12:18

....and would Sky feel bereft with any of their Tythe-scribers live streaming any of the sports events they ''pay'' for?
If someone has paid for product/service, then that person can feel free to do what ever he/she wants to with that product/service.

I am sure that if I were to buy a bucket of KFC and share it with my family/friends KFC wouldn't give it a shit, it's paid for and I paid the asking price without question.

Once again you are right in what you say.
My point is that i already subscribe to sky but then i am being asked to pay an extra $50 just for the boxing.
I cant watch it unless i'm subscribed so why should i pay an extra $50.
Boxing is all about the money now and not the sport. How many of these bouts do we think have been set up.
Plenty of results have been brought by the mighty $$$

Maha

25th May 2016, 12:31

Once again you are right in what you say.
My point is that i already subscribe to sky but then i am being asked to pay an extra $50 just for the boxing.
I cant watch it unless i'm subscribed so why should i pay an extra $50.
Boxing is all about the money now and not the sport. How many of these bouts do we think have been set up.
Plenty of results have been brought by the mighty $$$

I agree with you, there are plenty of clubs around illegally viewing Sky they just don't advertise the fact. Paying $50 for an *hours boxing is ridiculous.
If all 800,000 tythe-scribers paid Sky that would have been $40 million in the Sky coffers. Even if only 150,000 paid it still would have been 7.5 million.

*Yes it went on and fucking on but the main fight was about an hour.

HenryDorsetCase

25th May 2016, 14:53

Here is some Q & A from Bryan Barry on the Parker Takam fight.

I haven't caught up with Bryan so far this week: Bryan is the corner man and even makes it to the TV. Kevin is his brother. Bryan's son Chris is in there too.

QUESTION 1: After the first 4 rounds most people had scored Parker up 3 - 1 if not all 4 rounds, what was the chat from Kevin in between these rounds?
BRYAN: Kevin wanted Joe to double jab and hit the body more. We weren't really keeping score at this point.

QUESTION 2: What will Parker gain from this experience and what do you think he displayed that we hadn't seen?
BRYAN: He will gain self belief knowing he can go 12 hard rounds and compete with top 10 fighters. He will greatly improve from this experience. He fought well off the back foot which people hadn't seen. Also a lot of people questioned Joe's chin, now we know he can take a hit.

QUESTION 3: With the title shot looming in around a year, will Joseph be ready?
BRYAN: He still has to learn to stay focused for every minute of every round. He was standing tall out of most clinches and dropping his hands with his head too high, which by the way never dies in training, but I guess with the pressure comes mistakes so we have to iron these out.

QUESTION 4: Why have Duco decided to go for Solomon Haumono?
BRYAN: Solomon is a tough, durable fighter and he deserves a chance. His record shows he is a very dangerous puncher but should realistically be too slow for our man, Joe.

pritch

25th May 2016, 14:56

Sky make no rules as to how many people can watch one TV which has paid for the feed...see the pubs who had it on.

A year or two back I was having lunch in a sports bar near where I worked when the owner took a call from SKY. He was arguing that the charge for a then upcoming fight was too high. I wasn't paying much attention, it wasn't my business and I had no interest in the fight, but the figure $1200 seems to ring a bell. SKY have different rules for pubs but it would seem some of the publicans aren't any happier paying than you guys.

Grumph

25th May 2016, 15:21

A year or two back I was having lunch in a sports bar near where I worked when the owner took a call from SKY. He was arguing that the charge for a then upcoming fight was too high. I wasn't paying much attention, it wasn't my business and I had no interest in the fight, but the figure $1200 seems to ring a bell. SKY have different rules for pubs but it would seem some of the publicans aren't any happier paying than you guys.

I'd guess it depends where the bar is...Metropolitan areas with good advertising, it's probably still profitable. My local very small country pub - not so much.
Still the point was that once they've paid, there's no limit on the number viewing from that particular connection other than the limit on the number allowed in to those premises.

Maha

25th May 2016, 16:15

A year or two back I was having lunch in a sports bar near where I worked when the owner took a call from SKY. He was arguing that the charge for a then upcoming fight was too high. I wasn't paying much attention, it wasn't my business and I had no interest in the fight, but the figure $1200 seems to ring a bell. SKY have different rules for pubs but it would seem some of the publicans aren't any happier paying than you guys.

.......and Motels, they will charge a per room rate which gets costly and is why some Motels either A: Don't have it or B: Only a few channels. 50+ is not the norm. Some who stay in Motels usually only want Sky sports anyway but most don't care because they are not there to watch fucking TV.