So how much do you know about Geo-Engineering?

[Katman]

http://www.gaia.com/article/chemtrails-versus-contrails

[slofox]

A foil hat should foil the plot...:whistle:

[Swoop]

.............
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[Katman]

.............

You must be feeling like a bit of a stupid cunt right about now for buying wholesale into the scheme of ridiculing anyone that dares to utter the word 'chemtrail'.

[Swoop]

You must be feeling like a bit of a stupid cunt right about now for buying wholesale into the scheme of ridiculing anyone that dares to utter the word 'chemtrail'.

Not particularly. You do it all by yourself.

[Drew]

I read for a while, but the opening paragraph is flawed and incorrect.

Contrails often hung in the air for hours in the 80s over central Otago. I infer that the statement that they didn't is intentional, and meant to plant the idea in the readers head early and sway postie support.

Memories are proven unreliable of course, no two people will remember events they both saw the same way. So someone can argue what I'm saying as misrembered. However I do recall many times, that contrails were a topic for discussion amongst my classmates and I.

The time they stay there is effected by atmospheric conditions, and to say they used to only last 10 minutes is complete bollucks.

[Katman]

I read for a while, but the opening paragraph is flawed and incorrect.

Contrails often hung in the air for hours in the 80s over central Otago. I infer that the statement that they didn't is intentional, and meant to plant the idea in the readers head early and sway postie support.

Memories are proven unreliable of course, no two people will remember events they both saw the same way. So someone can argue what I'm saying as misrembered. However I do recall many times, that contrails were a topic for discussion amongst my classmates and I.

The time they stay there is effected by atmospheric conditions, and to say they used to only last 10 minutes is complete bollucks.

Geo-engineering has been a fact for over 60 years Drew.

Back in the 80's very few people would have ever heard of geo-engineering or the word chemtrail.

The reality is that you wouldn't have a clue what it was you saw back them.

[Drew]

Geo-engineering has been a fact for over 60 years Drew.

Back in the 80's very few people would have ever heard of geo-engineering or the word chemtrail.

The reality is that you wouldn't have a clue what it was you saw back them.
So a lack of evidence against, is evidence for?

That just ain't how I think.

[Katman]

So a lack of evidence against, is evidence for?

That just ain't how I think.

Dude, how old were you back in the 80's?

Less than 10?

[Maha]

Not particularly. You do it all by yourself.

Detecting a conspiracy angle.

[Laava]

Not another pointless coronation st thread! Get a fucking life Katman and grow up.

[pritch]

Sorry Katman, TL and probably batshit crazy DR.

I see contrails just about any time I look up on a clear day and they are all in pretty much the same place every time. Presumably they are created by aircraft flying between Auckland and Wellington and vice versa?

On the other hand, sometimes late at night you can hear a big 'plane fly over. Seriously big. I've wondered what they were. My guess is US Starlifter or similar. Perhaps even an Ilyushin 76 for those predisposed to conspiracies? I've never been able to figure out why they would be here. I'm not really up on great circle routes so wouldn't know if an aicraft on route from California to Christchurch would pass over this location.

Of course if the evil bastards who are supposedly poisoning us all were as clever as they'd need to be, you'd have to ask yourself why wouldn't they be dumping their chemcrap at night so we wouldn't even see them?

[Katman]

Not another pointless coronation st thread! Get a fucking life Katman and grow up.

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[Katman]

Sorry Katman, TL and probably batshit crazy DR.

I see contrails just about any time I look up on a clear day and they are all in pretty much the same place every time. Presumably they are created by aircraft flying between Auckland and Wellington and vice versa?

On the other hand, sometimes late at night you can hear a big 'plane fly over. Seriously big. I've wondered what they were. My guess is US Starlifter or similar. Perhaps even an Ilyushin 76 for those predisposed to conspiracies. I've never been able to figure out why they would be here. I'm not really up on great circle routes so wouldn't know if an aicraft on route from California to Christchurch would pass over this location.

Of course if the evil bastards who are supposedly poisoning us all were as clever as they'd need to be, you'd have to ask yourself why wouldn't they be dumping their chemcrap at night so we wouldn't even see them?

I'm certainly not suggesting there's no such thing as contrails.

[TheDemonLord]

I'm certainly not suggesting there's no such thing as contrails.

Which should (to any one who isn't batshit crazy) be the end of it.

Of course however - Katman is going to tell us at great length how the entire airline industry is in on some big conspiracy and is going to use his extensive 'knowledge' about Aeronautics, Chemistry and other things he actually knows fuck all about (which is why it will all be copy/pasted, pointed to a YT video or parrotted from some equally delusional source) to try and convince us otherwise.

Let's see if we can set a new record for getting a conspiracy thread into PD!

[pritch]

I'm certainly not suggesting there's no such thing as contrails.

I didn't think you were.

And I looked up the great circle route from California to Christchurch, and it would approach NZ from the east off Wellington heading south. So they wouldn't normally pass over here, and I still don't know what those big buggers are.

[Swoop]

Detecting a conspiracy angle.

No, just the sad, regular approach.


Steve is not here for the "intelligent discourse" or a simple discussion of a topic.
Steve is here for an ego-stroke. Nothing more.

If you have a contrary opinion, or perhaps evidence or solid proof, he will simply revert to posting irrelevant links to some garbage which he feels supports his mental state of mind, and then throwing toys out of the pram with his homo-erotic comments.
Nothing more. Nothing less.


EDIT: A rather fast rep response from the SuckMyCockMan. Are we a bit paranoid about those nasty people?
Better put an extra layer of tinfoil on tonight.

[Katman]

I'm sensing a lot of bitterness that yet another avenue for ridiculing so called 'conspiracy theorists' is coming to a dead end for many of you.

[Swoop]

I'm sensing a lot of bitterness that yet another avenue for ridiculing so called 'conspiracy theorists' is coming to a dead end for many of you.
No.
Simply not stroking your approach to "intelligence".

Sadly with winter here, the customers will be lacking at "Wild Opinionated Theories" in Taupo, eh? Much more time to dwell on how the world is "so" fucked up.
Perhaps a cuddle with Axle will help?

[TheDemonLord]

I'm sensing a lot of bitterness that yet another avenue for ridiculing so called 'conspiracy theorists' is coming to a dead end for many of you.

The article has probably one of the most flawed premises I think I have ever come across.

Even by Conspiracy standard.

I wonder though if you have the brain power to work it out...















I'm just joking, I KNOW you won't work it out, and will have a childish tanty when I point it out.

[Maha]

No, just the sad, regular approach.


Steve is not here for the "intelligent discourse" or a simple discussion of a topic.
Steve is here for an ego-stroke. Nothing more.

If you have a contrary opinion, or perhaps evidence or solid proof, he will simply revert to posting irrelevant links to some garbage which he feels supports his mental state of mind, and then throwing toys out of the pram with his homo-erotic comments.
Nothing more. Nothing less.


EDIT: A rather fast rep response from the SuckMyCockMan. Are we a bit paranoid about those nasty people?
Better put an extra layer of tinfoil on tonight.



If he played cricket his position would be Deep Backward Square.

''Perhaps a cuddle with Axle will help''? That would involve entrails not Contrails.


''Wild Opinionated Theories" Can't send you rep so will chocolate do?

[Laava]

I'm sensing a lot of bitterness that yet another avenue for ridiculing so called 'conspiracy theorists' is coming to a dead end for many of you.

Sorry if being treated with the derision you deserve is so hard for you to handle. Suck it up princess.

[nzspokes]

Looks like they were doing it in 1940 over London.

Think of all the pilots and ground crew that have kept quiet on it all this time.

[Drew]

Having read the whole thing now, I notice something odd.

Other than saying that chemtrails can be a different colour, he doesn't site a single time that it's actually been done.

[Woodman]

I'm sensing a lot of bitterness that yet another avenue for ridiculing so called 'conspiracy theorists' is coming to a dead end for many of you.

It baffles the fuck out of me why you have such a high opinion of yourself.

[scumdog]

http://www.gaia.com/article/chemtrails-versus-contrails

Mwahahah..(big breath...) mwahahaha..!:laugh::lol::killingme:rofl::shutup:

[Maha]

It baffles the fuck out of me why you have such a high opinion of yourself.

The first trait of a narcissistic moron =having or showing an excessive interest in or admiration of oneself.

[george formby]

Looks like they were doing it in 1940 over London.

Think of all the pilots and ground crew that have kept quiet on it all this time.

Earlier than that.

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[Laava]

Surely this trainwreck is about to head to PD.

[Woodman]

Surely this trainwreck is about to head to PD.

Subconsciously Katman wants to hang around with fairies.

[mashman]

http://www.gaia.com/article/chemtrails-versus-contrails

I've seen similar trails above Mana Island area. I've watched planes go in and out all day and watched contrails evaporate into nothing... and I've watched what look like contrails slowly dissipate over the period of hours. However, I never see the planes that leave the latter.

I Am wearing my tin foil hat. BUT, my feet are in a bowl of cold water and my tongue is licking the female connection of a single plug extension that plugged in and live at the other end. It's a sign that chemtrails exist, but that very few people know what their purpose is, nor where or when they are spraying. No doubt it's for all of our own benefits, and not the economoney.

[Laava]

I've seen similar trails above Mana Island area. I've watched planes go in and out all day and watched contrails evaporate into nothing... and I've watched what look like contrails slowly dissipate over the period of hours. However, I never see the planes that leave the latter.

I Am wearing my tin foil hat. BUT, my feet are in a bowl of cold water and my tongue is licking the female connection of a single plug extension that plugged in and live at the other end. It's a sign that chemtrails exist, but that very few people know what their purpose is, nor where or when they are spraying. No doubt it's for all of our own benefits, and not the economoney.

So you don't know whether you should be worried or interested? Or whether you should do anything about it?

[mashman]

So you don't know whether you should be worried or interested? Or whether you should do anything about it?

Oh I'm interested. To a certain extent I'm concerned. I'd love such knowledge to be freely available, complete transparency, so that there's a little ambiguity as to the purpose of the trail as possible. When I make government, I'll find myself a Fox Mulder and stick him on the trail of those sorts of things.

[Woodman]

So you don't know whether you should be worried or interested? Or whether you should do anything about it?

Neither, he feels obligated to believe this sort of shit.

[Laava]

Oh I'm interested. To a certain extent I'm concerned. I'd love such knowledge to be freely available, complete transparency, so that there's a little ambiguity as to the purpose of the trail as possible. When I make government, I'll find myself a Fox Mulder and stick him on the trail of those sorts of things.

Should you establish if they even exist first?

[Katman]

Should you establish if they even exist first?

Have you ever heard of cloud seeding?

[Laava]

Yep, but that is not what you are on about.

[Katman]

Yep, but that is not what you are on about.

I'm on about spreading chemicals into our upper atmosphere.

What do you think cloud seeding is?

[mashman]

Neither, he feels obligated to believe this sort of shit.

:killingme... only when my right shoelace doesn't undo itself.


Should you establish if they even exist first?

No. I thought I'd just jump on the band wagon coz it sounded real cool like.

[Laava]

:killingme...

No. I thought I'd just jump on the band wagon coz it sounded real cool like.

Regretting that yet?

[Laava]

I'm on about spreading chemicals into our upper atmosphere.

What do you think cloud seeding is?

You know what, I can't be arsed winding you up. You have so much negative bulllshit swamping your brain you must be about ready for a mental breakdown.
If you actually believed and had proof that this was happening, you would do something about it instead of boring on about it here.

[mashman]

Regretting that yet?

Oh no. It's always accompanied with gold... just not in the way you'd like to think.

[Katman]

You know what, I can't be arsed winding you up.

Is that because you've suddenly realised that cloud seeding involves spreading chemicals in our upper atmosphere?

[Katman]

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/documents-2/

[Woodman]

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/documents-2/


Your point ?

[Katman]

Your point ?

To provide some reading for anyone who is interested.

I thought that would have been fairly obvious.

[Swoop]

What do you think cloud seeding is?

An attempt to make rainfall where an arid region is.
It's been around for years and has been so successful that Fiordland and The West Coast now have the patents for such a successful technology.

Their tinfoil hats have Marley spouting as sponsors.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I thought this would be about actual science.

I went to a lecture last night, given by an actual scientist. It was entitled "What will an Alpine Fault Earthquake Feel like"

The short answer is "rather scary".

The lecturer is a Professor at Canterbury, and spent a fair bit of time talking about the modelling of earthquake data. The idea of that was to see if their theoretical models match the data recorded from the Canterbury quakes. They pretty much do. Note this is not predicting an EQ, it is "given the size and location of the rupture, and our knowledge of the geology, and geomorphology of the area, can we model the effects?".

Turns out that they can. So the prediction was a 400km long rupture on the alpine fault, moving south north, and with around 11m of lateral movement. It produces a 7.9M EQ which propagates over the entire south island and rings that motherfucker like a bell. For (get this) three or so minutes. The "felt" peak ground accelerations will be less than from February (because that motherfucker was right under the city) but it goes on for a looooooong time.

And it is not IF, it is when. The last major alpine fault EQ was in 1717. The average is 310 years and the range is from 200 to 500 years over an 8000 year observed range.

Science, bitches. Its amazing.

Oh yeah: you NOrth Islanders: dont get smug. There is a huge subduction zone to the east of the North Island in the sea. It is entirely capable of generating a M9 EQ. (like Tohatsu in Japan in 2011). Guess what? motherfucking tsunami.

We're all fucked.

That's what you mean by geo-engineering, right?

Also: UC puts these things up on their website: absolutely worth looking at. We've been to a few of them on a whole range of topics. Very worthwhile.

Here's the youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1D0DE06F56864BA4


Do check out the Mars Rover one. It was given by Jennifer Blank, an actual NASA scientist.

[Laava]

Is that because you've suddenly realised that cloud seeding involves spreading chemicals in our upper atmosphere?

No, it's cos you're boring me. I know you think you all wise and all enlightened but meh.

[Swoop]

Oh I'm interested. To a certain extent I'm concerned. I'd love such knowledge to be freely available,
Perhaps look into the back of a jet fighter.
In each engine you can see the rear of the "hot" part of the engine and there is a multi-ring array which is a "spray-device".

You can only guess what the government sprays out of this item...

[Laava]

I thought this would be about actual science.

I went to a lecture last night, given by an actual scientist. It was entitled "What will an Alpine Fault Earthquake Feel like"

The short answer is "rather scary".

The lecturer is a Professor at Canterbury, and spent a fair bit of time talking about the modelling of earthquake data. The idea of that was to see if their theoretical models match the data recorded from the Canterbury quakes. They pretty much do. Note this is not predicting an EQ, it is "given the size and location of the rupture, and our knowledge of the geology, and geomorphology of the area, can we model the effects?".

Turns out that they can. So the prediction was a 400km long rupture on the alpine fault, moving south north, and with around 11m of lateral movement. It produces a 7.9M EQ which propagates over the entire south island and rings that motherfucker like a bell. For (get this) three or so minutes. The "felt" peak ground accelerations will be less than from February (because that motherfucker was right under the city) but it goes on for a looooooong time.

And it is not IF, it is when. The last major alpine fault EQ was in 1717. The average is 310 years and the range is from 200 to 500 years over an 8000 year observed range.

Science, bitches. Its amazing.

Oh yeah: you NOrth Islanders: dont get smug. There is a huge subduction zone to the east of the North Island in the sea. It is entirely capable of generating a M9 EQ. (like Tohatsu in Japan in 2011). Guess what? motherfucking tsunami.

We're all fucked.

That's what you mean by geo-engineering, right?

Also: UC puts these things up on their website: absolutely worth looking at. We've been to a few of them on a whole range of topics. Very worthwhile.

Here's the youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1D0DE06F56864BA4


Do check out the Mars Rover one. It was given by Jennifer Blank, an actual NASA scientist.

Can we start a thread about how this incredible conspiracy has come about?

[Laava]

Perhaps look into the back of a jet fighter.
In each engine you can see the rear of the "hot" part of the engine and there is a multi-ring array which is a "spray-device".

You can only guess what the government sprays out of this item...

Atomised sheeple juice?

[Grumph]

Perhaps look into the back of a jet fighter.
In each engine you can see the rear of the "hot" part of the engine and there is a multi-ring array which is a "spray-device".

You can only guess what the government sprays out of this item...

Cheap kerosene ?

[Maha]

Perhaps look into the back of a jet fighter.
In each engine you can see the rear of the "hot" part of the engine and there is a multi-ring array which is a "spray-device".

You can only guess what the government sprays out of this item...

Do the Pilots have access to Box Cutters?

[Swoop]

Atomised sheeple juice?
WOW! They can do that now?
I guess they harvest and liquidize the primary ingredients in Taupo...

[Swoop]

Do the Pilots have access to Box Cutters?

Yes. But they are supplied by the government and their suit-wearing "agents"...

[Laava]

WOW! They can do that now?
I guess they harvest and liquidize the primary ingredients in Taupo...

So they can make whine?

[Swoop]

So they can make whine?

More of a pathetic, self-absorbed whinge, actually.

[Grumph]

I thought this would be about actual science.

I went to a lecture last night, given by an actual scientist. It was entitled "What will an Alpine Fault Earthquake Feel like"

The short answer is "rather scary".

The lecturer is a Professor at Canterbury, and spent a fair bit of time talking about the modelling of earthquake data. The idea of that was to see if their theoretical models match the data recorded from the Canterbury quakes. They pretty much do. Note this is not predicting an EQ, it is "given the size and location of the rupture, and our knowledge of the geology, and geomorphology of the area, can we model the effects?".

Turns out that they can. So the prediction was a 400km long rupture on the alpine fault, moving south north, and with around 11m of lateral movement. It produces a 7.9M EQ which propagates over the entire south island and rings that motherfucker like a bell. For (get this) three or so minutes. The "felt" peak ground accelerations will be less than from February (because that motherfucker was right under the city) but it goes on for a looooooong time.


The first one on the Greendale fault, the 7.2, felt like it went on that bloody long....I'm never sleeping above the ground floor again thanks.

When i saw Geo engineering I immediately thought "fracking"....but no, nothing that useful.

[Scuba_Steve]

Oh yeah: you NOrth Islanders: dont get smug. There is a huge subduction zone to the east of the North Island in the sea. It is entirely capable of generating a M9 EQ. (like Tohatsu in Japan in 2011). Guess what? motherfucking tsunami.

We're all fucked.

That's what you mean by geo-engineering, right?


Mate, I'm in the "Absolutely Positively Wellington" region, where half the Wellington CBD is "reclaimed land", a major fault line runs through the place (which we decided to put large building complexes along & decided side of hills were good places for houses) & we land planes in winds the blow American houses away (also on "reclaimed land")... Challenging mother nature is what we do!

[mashman]

Geoengineering may also refer to:

Geological engineering, a hybrid discipline that comprises elements of civil engineering, mining engineering, petroleum engineering, and earth sciences
Engineering geology, the application of the geological sciences to engineering study
Geotechnical engineering, the branch of civil engineering concerned with the engineering behavior of earth materials
Geophysical engineering, the application of geophysics to the engineering design of facilities including roads, tunnels, and mines

[Virago]

http://www.gaia.com/article/chemtrails-versus-contrails

Oh dear. Another loaded article full of presumptions and misinformation. Still, we wouldn't expect anything less from a Collective Evolution page.

Jeez, where to start?

The farcical notion that the airlines are all involved in illicit spreading of chemicals in the atmosphere may only seem plausible to those who want to believe.


You've seen them since you were a kid: contrails are the lines in the sky made from a plane's exhaust system as it flies by. The only thing is, if you're past the age of 25, when you were a child you probably didn't see contrails last as long in the sky as they do now. What's changed?

Nothing like "creating" memories to set the scene...


Regular contrails are the result of exhaust being released from engine turbines as a plane flies. Typically they are white in color and can be seen a short distance behind the plane as it passes, dissipating after about 10 seconds or so.

Wrong. Depending on the temperature and humidity at the altitude the contrails form, they may be visible for only a few seconds or minutes, or may persist for hours and spread to be several miles wide, eventually resembling natural cirrus or altocumulus clouds. Persistent contrails are of interest to scientists because they increase the cloudiness of the atmosphere. The resulting cloud forms may resemble cirrus, cirrocumulus, or cirrostratus, and are sometimes called cirrus aviaticus.


Yet various individuals from all over the world have been raising concerns over this issue for years. For example, Rosalind Peterson, President and Co-Founder of the Agriculture Defense Coalition (ADC) and an ex-United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) employee, made this statement at a 2007 United Nations hearing on global warming...

No chemtrail conspiracy page would be complete without input involving Rosalind Peterson. Indeed Ms Peterson has been denying the distortions attributed to her for some years. Some interesting facts:

Peterson did not address the UN. This was simply a conference on Climate Change organized by the UN, not an actual UN session.

The session she spoke at was titled "Coping With Climate Change: Best Land Use Practice".

Peterson does not mention "chemtrails", only normal weather modification (cloud seeding).

Peterson does not work at the UN, or have any connection to the UN at all. Peterson is a retired crop loss adjuster (a type of insurance agent working in agriculture). She worked for the USDA in Mendocino, California.

Peterson is billed as "President of the Agriculture Defense Coalition", and while this is true, the ADC is just her. It's just the name of her personal web site.

Ms Peterson herself says:

"We have to stick with what we can prove. We have to stay away from opinions and beliefs. And if we go to sue someone, we have to have enough rock solid evidence that is so tight to make a case so that we don't lose the case, and that we have many many people, in other words experts in various fields, to testify on our behalf. This mean university professors, this means people that can come and back up our statements, back up the studies, where we can prove that the jets for example reduce the amount of direct sunlight reaching the earth, they change the climate...

...So there's a differentiation for me in putting my name or associating myself with something where I can't back it up. Now if anyone has direct proof, they've got university studies, if you've got documents, government documents, if you've got reports, then that makes a big difference. But right now, after ten years of research, I can't do it."

[Laava]

Is it time for the lesbians yet?

[TheDemonLord]

If only there was something that was a product of Jet Fuel being burnt, that also caused white fluffy things in the upper atmosphere to hang around for hours at a time....



If only.....

[Madness]

Is it time for the lesbians yet?

Nup. :wait:

[Katman]

If only there was something that was a product of Jet Fuel being burnt, that also caused white fluffy things in the upper atmosphere to hang around for hours at a time....



If only.....

See, that's what's so fucking stupid about you - even your humour falls flat on it's face.

I've already stated that I'm not saying there's no such thing as contrails.

It's an undeniable fact though that chemicals get spread into our upper atmosphere through a process that doesn't involve normal jet engine combustion.

[TheDemonLord]

See, that's what's so fucking stupid about you - even your humour falls flat on it's face.

You'd say that, because you missed the joke (glad to see nothing has changed)


I've already stated that I'm not saying there's no such thing as contrails.

So do the normal contrails last 10 seconds, or is there some process that enables water vapor to crystallize and remain in the upper atmosphere for hours at a time? If only we had another phenomena that predated jet travel where Water Vapor crystallizes in the upper atmosphere for more than 10 seconds.


It's an undeniable fact though that chemicals get spread into our upper atmosphere through a process that doesn't involve normal jet engine combustion.

The only undeniable fact is how batshit crazy you are.

[Laava]

If only there was something that was a product of Jet Fuel being burnt, that also caused white fluffy things in the upper atmosphere to hang around for hours at a time....



If only.....

Di-hydrogen monoxide?

[Laava]

See, that's what's so fucking stupid about you - even your humour falls flat on it's face.

I've already stated that I'm not saying there's no such thing as contrails.

It's an undeniable fact though that chemicals get spread into our upper atmosphere through a process that doesn't involve normal jet engine combustion.

Starting a thread about chemtrails is just hilariously retarded. It is supremely ironic you calling anyone stupid.

[TheDemonLord]

Di-hydrogen monoxide?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/004/029/disgusted-mother-of-god.png


http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

[WristTwister]

[retracted because this argument is pointless]

[sidecar bob]

Cool, another thing for idiots to be paranoid about. There's no fuckin end to it is there.:facepalm:

[Indiana_Jones]

I got all excited because I thought this thread was going to be able geotechnical engineering :weep:

[pritch]

To provide some reading for anyone who is interested.



Yeah I've done that too. Usually it's motorcycle related though, however tenuous the link.

[Maha]

I got all excited because I thought this thread was going to be able geotechnical engineering :weep:

Bummer, it's about a the moronic leavings of a moron.

[Katman]

Bummer, it's about a the moronic leavings of a moron.

When questioning someone else's intelligence it usually pays to double check that your own is up to scratch.

[Jin]

Screw chemtrails i want to know is whats causing all the rainbows. This woman doesnt afraid to challenge conventional thinking. Just like our magnificent bastard katman.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

[Maha]

When questioning someone else's intelligence it usually pays to double check that your own is up to scratch.

I wasn't questioning anything, anyone with an ounce intelligence could work that out. I was being factual unlike the penis gobbling crap you subscribe to.

[Woodman]

Screw chemtrails i want to know is whats causing all the rainbows. This woman doesnt afraid to challenge conventional thinking. Just like our magnificent bastard katman.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

She isn't afraid to challenge conventional spelling either. :lol::lol:

[Akzle]

When questioning someone else's intelligence it usually pays to double check that your own is up to scratch.

:clap:
must spread...

[Maha]

:buggerd:
must spread...

I am sure he'd be well pleased if you spread for him......... yet again.

[mashman]

I am sure he'd be well pleased if you spread for him......... yet again.

You didn't have to prove their point further.

[pritch]

Katman, I'm not sure if you are aware of it but there is a dating web site for conspiracy theorists. Really!
Polish up your tinfoil hat and sign up here: https://awake.dating/

[Katman]

Katman, I'm not sure if you are aware of it but there is a dating web site for conspiracy theorists. Really!
Polish up your tinfoil hat and sign up here: https://awake.dating/

I don't need a dating site.

You guys are my life.

[pritch]

You guys are my life.

Fuck! That's tragic.

[Maha]

Fuck! That's tragic.

But factual.:msn-wink:

[TheDemonLord]

I don't need a dating site.

You guys are my life.

Nurse! I think we have found the problem!

[Swoop]

But factual.

Nurse! I think we have found the problem!

You certainly cannot fault either of these replies.

[MarkH]

What is it with Katman and nutjob conspiracy theories? Does he just believe every crazy conspiracy he reads?
I thought his stupid ramblings about glyphosphate were bad enough.

For those that want a little sanity:
http://thevane.gawker.com/why-i-write-about-and-debunk-the-chemtrail-conspiracy-1581896346

[Swoop]

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321883

[Grumph]

What is it with Katman and nutjob conspiracy theories? Does he just believe every crazy conspiracy he reads?
I thought his stupid ramblings about glyphosphate were bad enough.

It's what they put in the water in Taupo....

[husaberg]

It's what they put in the water in Taupo....

Please don't start him on Fluoride.................
I heard he wouldn't be so paranoid......... if everyone wasn't out to get him.


I don't need a dating site.
You guys are my life.

It sounds awfully like you misunderstood conspiracy f̶a̶i̶r̶y̶ theory.

[BuzzardNZ]

Please don't start him on Fluoride.................
I heard he wouldn't be so paranoid......... if everyone wasn't out to get him.

Perhaps they should be out to get you.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Just because you think you're not paranoid - it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you anyway.

[husaberg]

What is it with Katman and nutjob conspiracy theories? Does he just believe every crazy conspiracy he reads?
I thought his stupid ramblings about glyphosphate were bad enough.


Read between the lines......:clap::laugh::psst:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQYaoiIFh8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi6wNGwd84g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HshjVl45Nho



<marquee behavior="scroll" direction="left" scrollamount="1">KATMANS AS NUTTY AS A FRUITCAKE, PLUS TWICE AS FRUITY </marquee>

[yokel]

I don't know F all about this Geo engineering, but chances are with all the yap yap about global warming and climate change that they'd come up with some kinda crack pot scheme.

An exert from NZ parliament https://youtu.be/xFQ2_0QNiks?t=4m46s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks

[Laava]

I don't know F all

We hear ya!

[Katman]

But factual.

Says the guy who holds the number 1 spot for most posts on this forum.

[Maha]

Still waiting to hear from site management about the chocolate fish awarded for that.

[Woodman]

If there was such a thing as chemtrails, and if they/them are covertly spraying us to help reduce/control the earths human population then I would be all for it. Something needs to be done.

[husaberg]

If there was such a thing as chemtrails, and if they/them are covertly spraying us to help reduce/control the earths human population then I would be all for it. Something needs to be done.

Right with Ya Woodman
Some of those peasants are really revolting...........
https://38.media.tumblr.com/9d6bfff1bb0558de3f6aec6e6faa1869/tumblr_mw8axt2bLg1rj8f3xo1_500.gif

[Katman]

Please don't start him on Fluoride.................


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/03/19/best-known-peer-reviewed-medical-journal-officially-classifies-fluoride-as-a-neurotoxin/

[pritch]

http://takimag.com/article/it_must_be_a_conspiracy_theodore_dalrymple

Don't tell me TL;DR I do realise this will require an attention span longer than an Aedes agypti mosquito.

[husaberg]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/03/19/best-known-peer-reviewed-medical-journal-officially-classifies-fluoride-as-a-neurotoxin/

Oh gee as predictable as always:clap:
Just as well it wasn't a youtube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj9ZsUDs3ZA
Watch this video. All is explained in the subtext:lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37ahuLzEeD8

[Virago]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160812103718.htm

[Katman]

http://www.mintpressnews.com/no-longer-conspiracy-cia-admits-plans-aerosol-spraying-geoengineering/218179/

[TheDemonLord]

http://www.mintpressnews.com/no-longer-conspiracy-cia-admits-plans-aerosol-spraying-geoengineering/218179/

I've got a plan to become a Multi-Billionaire.

Does that mean I'm now a Multi-Billionaire?

[Katman]

I've got a plan to become a Multi-Billionaire.

Does that mean I'm now a Multi-Billionaire?

See, there's another one of your shit analogies.

[TheDemonLord]

See, there's another one of your shit analogies.

I think you mean:

'There's another whole in my shit conspiracy theories'

But we know that you are allergic to Facts and reality.

[Katman]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/10/21/scientist-dr-michio-kaku-admits-government-weather-control-on-cbs-news/

[Drew]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/10/21/scientist-dr-michio-kaku-admits-government-weather-control-on-cbs-news/

In a lab, they can do it. They haven't tried real world testing.

You are a fuckwit.

[Katman]

They haven't tried real world testing.


Really Drew?

Or are you just guessing?

[Drew]

Really Drew?

Or are you just guessing?

So you give an interview of a scientist sating their working on it, and then suggest he's lying about what he's done?

You really are a fucken idiot.

"Look at me, I've spent lots of time looking up stuff. I'm far more educated than anyone who can't be fucked with the bullshit".

Look you thick cunt. Most of us know the technology exists to do it. We don't think the are doing it though. And I've yet to see conclusive reason not to fucking do it if they've got a safe method.

So fuck up, fuck off, and die of some curable disease that you didn't trust a medical professional's opinion on.

[husaberg]

You are a fuckwit.


Really Drew?

Or are you just guessing?

Nah hes right, you are a fuckwit.

You're talking about a government agency spouting the government's story.
Think about it.

For a start, NIST is a government agency. Do you really expect them to say anything other than what they're told to say?
What have the likes of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth got to gain from disputing the official story - other than uncovering the truth?

Who the fuck are you (or any government agency for that matter) to decide who is capable of evaluating information?

I think you place a little too much importance on the role of the US government's Chief Executive Puppet.

But you blindly believe that a building can collapse at free fall speed due to the failure of a single column simply because a government agency said their computer model confirms it.
Oh, by the way, you're not allowed to look at how they got their computer model to show that result - that's a secret.

How's that?
NIST are merely a government puppet.

I don't think the government accepted NIST's advice.
I think they told NIST what NIST's advice would be.

My only 'belief' in this particular matter is that people should be entitled to the truth regarding any risks involved.
And when a government agency is guilty of hiding the truth there this is very good cause to be alarmed.

[Katman]

So you give an interview of a scientist sating their working on it, and then suggest he's lying about what he's done?

You really are a fucken idiot.

"Look at me, I've spent lots of time looking up stuff. I'm far more educated than anyone who can't be fucked with the bullshit".

Look you thick cunt. Most of us know the technology exists to do it. We don't think the are doing it though. And I've yet to see conclusive reason not to fucking do it if they've got a safe method.

So fuck up, fuck off, and die of some curable disease that you didn't trust a medical professional's opinion on.

Seriously dude, you should see about getting your medication changed.

[Drew]

Seriously dude, you should see about getting your medication changed.

You should try and make a decent argument for once.

[Katman]

You should try and make a decent argument for once.

Let's not forget which one of us is the mentally unstable one Drew.

[Akzle]

I thought this would be about actual science.

I went to a lecture last night, given by an actual scientist. It was entitled "What will an Alpine Fault Earthquake Feel like"

The short answer is "rather scary".

The lecturer is a Professor at Canterbury, and spent a fair bit of time talking about the modelling of earthquake data. The idea of that was to see if their theoretical models match the data recorded from the Canterbury quakes. They pretty much do. Note this is not predicting an EQ, it is "given the size and location of the rupture, and our knowledge of the geology, and geomorphology of the area, can we model the effects?".

Turns out that they can. So the prediction was a 400km long rupture on the alpine fault, moving south north, and with around 11m of lateral movement. It produces a 7.9M EQ which propagates over the entire south island and rings that motherfucker like a bell. For (get this) three or so minutes. The "felt" peak ground accelerations will be less than from February (because that motherfucker was right under the city) but it goes on for a looooooong time.

And it is not IF, it is when. The last major alpine fault EQ was in 1717. The average is 310 years and the range is from 200 to 500 years over an 8000 year observed range.

Science, bitches. Its amazing.

Oh yeah: you NOrth Islanders: dont get smug. There is a huge subduction zone to the east of the North Island in the sea. It is entirely capable of generating a M9 EQ. (like Tohatsu in Japan in 2011). Guess what? motherfucking tsunami.

We're all fucked.

That's what you mean by geo-engineering, right?

Also: UC puts these things up on their website: absolutely worth looking at. We've been to a few of them on a whole range of topics. Very worthwhile.

Here's the youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1D0DE06F56864BA4


Do check out the Mars Rover one. It was given by Jennifer Blank, an actual NASA scientist.

'zat chu ken ring?

[Laava]

Let's not forget which one of us is the mentally unstable one Drew.

Oh fuck, that is funny!!!:lol::lol::lol:

[Katman]

Oh fuck, that is funny!!!:lol::lol::lol:

Don't laugh at him - he's coping the best he can.

[husaberg]

The government is out to get me with chemtrails microchips and stuff i have no evidence but its a f-ing conspiracy against me

You should try and make a decent argument for once.

Let's not forget which one of us is the mentally unstable one Drew.

Oh fuck, that is funny!!!:lol::lol::lol:
Maybe if Katman was more in touch with reality and less of a narcissist he might notice how utterly ironic his statement was.

[Drew]

Let's not forget which one of us is the mentally unstable one Drew.

Oh, I dunno. I don't struggle separating reality from bullshit.

[Katman]

Oh, I dunno. I don't struggle separating reality from bullshit.

Really Drew? (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/84/51/7e/84517edd96de11bf07e1383926a9ccbe.png)

[husaberg]

Oh, I dunno. I don't struggle separating reality from bullshit.
Yet conversely Katman certainly does struggle...........
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/174599-Alternative-fuels

Some further info.

http://www.geetfriends.net/
like the modern day Nikola Tesla.


There seems to be an unlimited supply of stupid people to keep these idiotic conspiracy theories going.


He sounds like a scam artist.
Then again, you work with a few spanners right? Just build one and show us all!


It always amazes me how quickly some people form a conclusion before they've even investigated an idea.


It always amazes me how some people assume the thing they find online has not been found (and investigated) many times before.

He's a known scammer preying on society's weak minded, good fucking job he is going to the slammer/nuthouse.

See, that's what makes you a fucking moron.
What the fuck has him being sent to a nuthouse have to do with the theory of what we're discussing?

[Drew]

Really Drew? (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/84/51/7e/84517edd96de11bf07e1383926a9ccbe.png)

I don't care much that ya make fun of me. But you keep making out like anyone shouldn't admit to struggling with this shit, and I'm gonna struggle to keep calm.

[Katman]

But you keep making out like anyone shouldn't admit to struggling with this shit, and I'm gonna struggle to keep calm.

You know where to find me Drew.

[Maha]

You know where to find me Drew.

Well and truly up your own arse?

[Katman]

Well and truly up your own arse?

Grown a pair yet?

[Akzle]

Well and truly up your own arse?

. .

[Drew]

You know where to find me Drew.

I wouldn't waste energy coming to you. I'll be back at Taupo track next weekend spannering for Sloan. Come make fun of mental health issues then.

[Katman]

Come make fun of mental health issues then.

You're doing a better job of it than I ever could.

[TheDemonLord]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/10/21/scientist-dr-michio-kaku-admits-government-weather-control-on-cbs-news/

I see Collective Idiocy is up to it's usual tricks, start with well respected Professor, take completely out of context, then insert no-name professor, cite one of his un-proven and controversial views as fact to try and give him credit, then cite a BS paper published in an unheard of Journal that is barely cited for any serious work.

And look who swallows it up like a $2 hooker....

[Katman]

I see Collective Idiocy is up to it's usual tricks, start with well respected Professor, take completely out of context, then insert no-name professor, cite one of his un-proven and controversial views as fact to try and give him credit, then cite a BS paper published in an unheard of Journal that is barely cited for any serious work.

Full marks for fitting so much cognitive dissonance into one sentence.

Well done you.

[Maha]

Grown a pair yet?

I have run out of fucks to give, can you enlighten me on what this periodic inquiry of yours pertains too?

[TheDemonLord]

Full marks for fitting so much cognitive dissonance into one sentence.

Well done you.

You really should try learning what words mean before using them - it makes you sound more retarded than usual.

[sidecar bob]

Let's not forget which one of us is the mentally unstable one Drew.

Wrong thread. You need to move it here.
Huge difference between admitting to having the occasional anxiety attack & being fully delusional & not knowing it.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/109015-Friday-jokes/page295

[Katman]

Wrong thread. You need to move it here.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/109015-Friday-jokes/page295


Refer post #120.

[husaberg]

I have run out of fucks to give, can you enlighten me on what this periodic inquiry of yours pertains too?
He a real Sucker for Cock and Ball stories

You really should try learning what words mean before using them - it makes you sound more retarded than usual.
Well He got it from is source Yokel. aka Deep throat