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Maha
27th May 2016, 10:35
Am I right in assuming that the Ohlins rear shocks on the XJR are a cheaper version with only preload adjustment?
There is one for sale at the moment where the owner has changed the stock shocks with those off a GSX1400.

mulletman
27th May 2016, 15:09
Am I right in assuming that the Ohlins rear shocks on the XJR are a cheaper version with only preload adjustment?
There is one for sale at the moment where the owner has changed the stock shocks with those off a GSX1400.

There were two types from memory,one with as you say preload, the better ones the same with re-bound and compression like the GSX1400.
Im guessing the Ohlins were a cheap version compared to listed items , but could be made proper with help from RT.

AllanB
27th May 2016, 20:14
Last I heard Yamaha had a decent share in Ohlins (30% springs to mind). The first ones were very budget - no idea about the current ones.

husaberg
27th May 2016, 20:26
Last I heard Yamaha had a decent share in Ohlins (30% springs to mind). The first ones were very budget - no idea about the current ones.

In 1987 Yamaha purchased 75% of Öhlins Racing AB stocks from Kenth Öhlin
It was owned by Yamaha, but ran as a separate entity.
Much like Honda relationship with Showa and Keihin.
In 2007 Kenth Öhlin reclaimed a 95% share of the company.
https://www.ohlins.eu/en/company/history/

Funny enough I always thought Yamaha owned Brembo as well but it doesn't appear to be te case
I never knew Brembo owned AP racing (ex Lockheed) though.

SVboy
28th May 2016, 15:45
I believe the XJR ohlins shocks are an exercise in sticker engineering and are of very average quality. Improveable however. Just add money and Dr Taylor.

AllanB
28th May 2016, 15:59
Sticker Engineering - I like that phrase.

Somewhere in my garage I have some genuine Ohlins stickers from my old Hornet - I should sell them - add and instantly improve :-)

Grumph
29th May 2016, 09:15
There were two types from memory,one with as you say preload, the better ones the same with re-bound and compression like the GSX1400.
Im guessing the Ohlins were a cheap version compared to listed items , but could be made proper with help from RT.

So where did a version with rebound adjustment only come from ?
About 8 years back we put a set off trademe onto a big Laverda, the seller reckoned they were off the Yamaha...
They work very well on the Lav too.

mulletman
29th May 2016, 10:50
So where did a version with rebound adjustment only come from ?
About 8 years back we put a set off trademe onto a big Laverda, the seller reckoned they were off the Yamaha...
They work very well on the Lav too.

Hmm try this place and compare the two.

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_xJr1200%2095.htm


http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_xjr1300_07.htm

Honda and Kawasaki have similar rears (twins) you can swap around.

AllanB
29th May 2016, 12:25
XJ - check out some of the Yahama Yard Built XJ bikes - some bloody nice ones.

I think it is fantastic that Yamy are supporting this type of contest - yeah yeah it started back in the day with HD but really everyone has seen custom Harleys.

http://www.yamaha-yardbuilt.com/en#/grid/entries

mulletman
29th May 2016, 18:26
XJ - check out some of the Yahama Yard Built XJ bikes - some bloody nice ones.

I think it is fantastic that Yamy are supporting this type of contest - yeah yeah it started back in the day with HD but really everyone has seen custom Harleys.

http://www.yamaha-yardbuilt.com/en#/grid/entries

Nice machines there .

Maha
4th June 2016, 17:58
What are the shocks on this?


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1097246933.htm

T.W.R
5th June 2016, 11:10
What are the shocks on this?


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1097246933.htm

Hagon 33048SA ;)

Drew
5th June 2016, 11:50
What are the shocks on this?


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1097246933.htm

Low end Hagan shocks.

Big Dog
6th June 2016, 15:03
What are the shocks on this?


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1097246933.htm
I'm always suspicious of listings that only show pics from one side. Especially so when there are also none from the front.
That suspicion deepens when there are aftermarket suspension bits not listed in the auction. If it were an improvement it would surely be listed?

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Maha
6th June 2016, 17:32
I'm always suspicious of listings that only show pics from one side. Especially so when there are also none from the front.
That suspicion deepens when there are aftermarket suspension bits not listed in the auction. If it were an improvement it would surely be listed?

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My thoughts also, the OEM shocks (Showa) were/are fine, had them on the CB and never felt the need to change/upgrade them.

Big Dog
6th June 2016, 19:54
My thoughts also, the OEM shocks (Showa) were/are fine, had them on the CB and never felt the need to change/upgrade them.
Add in non standard bars (this one might be an exception being Renthal), bar ends, exhaust and mirrors that one don't appear to have been purchased as upgrades given that they are all bottom end unbranded stuff and it makes me curious if it has been in a bit of a bin.

There can be explanations. I have a few "Flea Bay" mods that are just about changing the fit for me, but if I were listing the bike for sale the original bits would go on, or at least listed as available unless the bike has been thrown down the road and originals are chewed.

Maybe I am fussy but before I parted with my case I'd get a report and an inspection.

mulletman
6th June 2016, 20:01
Those first gen 14s had leaky shocks and was common to go with another type rather
than back to original rubbish.

On the next gen 14 (07 onwards) they to had some issuses on the rear shocks with the pre load adjuster can be sorted, lots of info on here http://www.gsx1400.org/gsx1400_board/index.php?act=idx