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PeteThePom
1st February 2004, 21:25
All I have to say is AMEN!!!
Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back(for those of you that don't know Andy Rooney, he is a 82year old US TV commentator.)I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires.I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some government stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE? I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door. I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability. I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it. If I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would be "FIRED" immediately! I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English! My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours. I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines. I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation recount votes when needed. I know what the definition of lying is.I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop,trinket store, or any other business. We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations. I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them.I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude. I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you. It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French Fries! I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else. And if you don't like my point of view, DON'T PASS IT ON!!! </O:p>

MikeL
1st February 2004, 21:28
Wow! And I thought Zed was provocative...

Jackrat
1st February 2004, 21:48
He forgot to mention big guns.
I also belive a person has the right to speak what ever langage they like, no matter where they live.
Other than that,Yeah I like it.

k14
2nd February 2004, 06:46
Damn, i dont think i could have said it better than myself. That would have got some people talking.

riffer
2nd February 2004, 06:58
Dennis Leary already covered this:

Folks
I'd like to sing a song about the American Dream
About me,
About you,
About the way our American hearts beat way down in the bottoms of our chests,
About that special feelting we get in the cockles of our hearts
Or maybe below the cockles,
Maybe in the sub cockle area,
Maybe in the liver,
Maybe in the kidneys,
Maybe even in the colon,
We don't know

I'm just a regular joe,
With a regular job.
I'm your average white,
Suburbanite slob.
I like football, and porno, and books about war.
I've got an average house,
With a nice hardwood floor.
My wife, and my job, my kids, and my car,
My feet on the table,
With a Cuban cigar.
But sometimes that just ain't enough,
To keep a man like me interested,
Oh no, no way, uh uhh.
No I gotta go out and have fun,
At someone elses expense,
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah,

I drive really slow,
In the ultra fast lane,
while people, behind me, are going insane.

I'm an asshole
(he's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole
(he's an asshole, such an asshole)

I use public toilets,
And I piss on the seats,
I walk around in the summer time,
Sayin' "How about this heat?"

I'm an asshole
(he's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole
(he's the worlds biggest asshole)

Sometimes I park in handicaped spaces,
While handicaped People, make handicaped faces,

I'm an asshole
(he's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole
(he's a big fucking asshole)

Maybe I shouldnt be singing this song,
Ranting and raving and carring on,
Maybe they're right when they tell me I'm wrong.
NAAAHHHHH

I'm an asshole
(he's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole
(he's the worlds biggest asshole)

You know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadaliac Eldarado Convertable,
Hot Pink!
With whale skin hub caps,
An all leather cow interior,
And big brown baby seal eyes for headlights.
YEAH!
And I'm gonna drive around in that baby,
At 115 miles per hour,
Getting one mile per gallon,
Sucking down quarter pounder cheeseburgers from McDonalds in the old-fasioned non-biodegradable styrafoam containers.
And when I'm done sucking down those grease ball burgers,
I'm gonna wipe my mouth in the American flag,
And then I'm gonna toss the styrafoam containers right out the side,
And there ain't a God damn thing anybody can do about it,
You know why?
'Cause we got the bombs, that's why.
Two words, Nuclear Fucking Weapons OK.
Russia, Germany, Romania,
They can have all the democracy they want.
They can have a big democracy cake,
Walk right through the middle of Tienemen Square,
And it won't make a lick of difference,
Because we got the bombs OK!
John Wayne's not dead,
He's frozen.
And as soon as we find a cure for cancer, we're gonna thaw out the duke.
And he's gonna be pretty pissed off,
You know why?
Have you ever taken a cold shower?
Well multiply that by 15 million times,
That's how pissed off the duke's gonna be.
I'm gonna get the duke,
And John Desimeties,
And Lee Marvinhaugh
And Sam Beckinforth,
And a case of whiskey,
And drive down to Texas,
And,
(hey, Hey, You know you really are an asshole)
Why don't you shut up and sing the song pal,
You know the whole time I thought I was that asshole,
And it turns out it was him,
What an Asshole

I'm an asshole
(he's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole
(he's the worlds biggest asshole)

A, SS, HO, LE
Everybody,
A, SS, HO, LE

I'm an asshole, and I'm Proud of it!

georgedubyabush
2nd February 2004, 08:20
Who's game to do an NZ one?

duckman
2nd February 2004, 11:18
A NZ one - aaaaaahahahahaahahaha

Are you kidding _ we are sooooo PC, just having this conversation makes us Racist, bigot, sexist arseholes!!! :bleh:

This thread is going to raark somebodies cage and I can't wait to see the opinions fly!!

Waaahooooooooo :doobey:

Dave
2nd February 2004, 12:15
That man for president.
Never a truer word was said.

Hitcher
2nd February 2004, 13:54
Dennis Leary already covered this:

I'd like to sing a song about the American Dream


You should be singing "Happy birthday" today mate, or rather we should be. Have a great one and I hope you're being well taken care of.

riffer
2nd February 2004, 14:09
You should be singing "Happy birthday" today mate, or rather we should be. Have a great one and I hope you're being well taken care of.
Cheers Hitcher. The better half has things in progress as we speak...:beer: :apint:

All the best to you too. You might be needing a long, hot bath tonight by the sounds of it.

Hope to see you one time at the Summit Cafe. And hey, if you're just throwing away that horrid, scratched Kerker muffler, I guess I could find a home for it.... :sly:

Ms Piggy
2nd February 2004, 14:28
"so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours."

:eek5: Ok not meaning to start a HUGE debate but surely some of these people are decendants of people that didn't actually have choice about "leaving" their countries?

Hitcher
2nd February 2004, 15:08
Hope to see you one time at the Summit Cafe. And hey, if you're just throwing away that horrid, scratched Kerker muffler, I guess I could find a home for it.... :sly:

I'd be up for a chat at the Summit! As for the Kerker, the can itself seems OK. The damage is to the chrome fitment ring at the bottom. I don't know what I'd do with 20% more power (if such a thing is possible). "Untold" plus 20% horsepower seems a bit wasteful to me... Anyway, despite any shortcomings people may think it may have performance-wise, the Kerker sounds GLORIOUS!!

James Deuce
2nd February 2004, 15:47
"so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours."

:eek5: Ok not meaning to start a HUGE debate but surely some of these people are decendants of people that didn't actually have choice about "leaving" their countries?

Its a point that needs examining in the current NZ politcal environment in regard to the Treaty. My family name is Irish. I can trace my family back to 13th Century Germany when the last of the Celts were booted into Spain (Catalan - the Basques), and then we left there in the 15th Century for Ireland. They then got kicked out of Ireland for nicking food and transported to Australia and then moved to Kumara on West Coast of the Sth Island. I'm the 4th generation born in NZ. My kids are the 5th.

Where do we go from here when we get booted out??

Within that framework Mr Rooney is in the PC sense disrespecting the Indigenous Nth American population, but he is also right in the sense that then was then, now is now and it is time to deal with current issues (I think the National Party is essentially saying the same things via Don Brash's Orewa speech - they just use nicer language). Essentially every country has a dominant culture with behavioural standards that define social and moral acceptability, and many immigrants go to a foreign country with a fortress mentality. They transport their community to another country instead of adding to the community of the country they arrive in. Of course this last point requires a community willing to accept growth and change, and judging some of the things you see on telly, read in the newspaper and the interweb thingy, and hear on the radio, white middle class NZ isn't one of those places.

I have to say that I get very irritated with Dell's technical support (one of my major customers at work has 30 Dell servers) using non-English speaking call centres for calls orginating in an English speaking country. It is UTTERLY impossible to actually achieve anything through a language barrier. That sounds bigoted, but isn't intended to be. The predominant language in NZ (rightly or wrongly) is English, and you can't tell me Dell don't know where the call comes from.

Mr Rooney's message is delivered aggressively. The content is worthy in my opinion because the fundamentals of the speech are based in good old common sense. Common sense is disliked by people with a semi-legitimate grievance because it can be used to make them look like a whiney fool if they don't agree to a "sensible" compromise - which is what every grievance rooted in the past needs.

Ms Piggy
2nd February 2004, 16:17
Its a point that needs examining in the current NZ politcal environment in regard to the Treaty. My family name is Irish. I can trace my family back to 13th Century Germany when the last of the Celts were booted into Spain (Catalan - the Basques), and then we left there in the 15th Century for Ireland. They then got kicked out of Ireland for nicking food and transported to Australia and then moved to Kumara on West Coast of the Sth Island. I'm the 4th generation born in NZ. My kids are the 5th.

Where do we go from here when we get booted out??

Within that framework Mr Rooney is in the PC sense disrespecting the Indigenous Nth American population, but he is also right in the sense that then was then, now is now and it is time to deal with current issues (I think the National Party is essentially saying the same things via Don Brash's Orewa speech - they just use nicer language). Essentially every country has a dominant culture with behavioural standards that define social and moral acceptability, and many immigrants go to a foreign country with a fortress mentality. They transport their community to another country instead of adding to the community of the country they arrive in. Of course this last point requires a community willing to accept growth and change, and judging some of the things you see on telly, read in the newspaper and the interweb thingy, and hear on the radio, white middle class NZ isn't one of those places.

I have to say that I get very irritated with Dell's technical support (one of my major customers at work has 30 Dell servers) using non-English speaking call centres for calls orginating in an English speaking country. It is UTTERLY impossible to actually achieve anything through a language barrier. That sounds bigoted, but isn't intended to be. The predominant language in NZ (rightly or wrongly) is English, and you can't tell me Dell don't know where the call comes from.

Mr Rooney's message is delivered aggressively. The content is worthy in my opinion because the fundamentals of the speech are based in good old common sense. Common sense is disliked by people with a semi-legitimate grievance because it can be used to make them look like a whiney fool if they don't agree to a "sensible" compromise - which is what every grievance rooted in the past needs.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - there is an essay topic in this :rolleyes:
I wrote a couple of essays last year on the Treaty of Waitangi - maybe I should drop them off to ya when I pick up the phone :yes:

James Deuce
2nd February 2004, 17:11
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - there is an essay topic in this :rolleyes:
I wrote a couple of essays last year on the Treaty of Waitangi - maybe I should drop them off to ya when I pick up the phone :yes:

Please!!!

Jim2

Big Dog
2nd February 2004, 17:20
The english thing is even more prominent when you have two people for whom english is not a fluent language. It can be quite amusing.

bluninja
2nd February 2004, 17:25
The english thing is even more prominent when you have two people for whom english is not a fluent language. It can be quite amusing.
You mean like a kiwi and an australian talking?:laugh:

Big Dog
2nd February 2004, 17:43
You mean like a kiwi and an australian talking?:laugh:
I know bad enough listening to a cockney and a yorkie by all acounts! Like what the hell is a scouser? :eyepoke:

Ms Piggy
2nd February 2004, 19:14
Please!!!

Jim2

:niceone: Will do. See ya Wednesday with the beers!