For Richer or Pora

[Maha]

Lets face it, he was probably better off in Prison, he has come away from it a better Man/Father and is a multi millionaire. Even he would not have foreseen that 21 years ago.

He was a prolific car thief and MM prospect so chances are he would have wound up inside at some stage, only to be released at a later date broke and looking to re offend again.

[ellipsis]

...and if the Crusaders had done it right the first time we wouldn't have all these terrorist goat fuckers running around hating us white cunts...about as relevant...two wrongs don't make a right...

[Hitcher]

Teina Pora was innocent of the crimes for which he was convicted and imprisoned.

$2 million is not enough for 21 years of lost life and a trashed reputation. Indeed at current interest rates, invested, it's not going to provide a massive annual income for him after tax.

[EJK]

Free rent, electricity bills all paid, free gym membership and 3 meals a day provided for over 21 years... plus $2 million payout upon check-out? Yes please!

[Big Dog]

Free rent, electricity bills all paid, free gym membership and 3 meals a day provided for over 21 years... plus $2 million payout upon check-out? Yes please!

No riding...

Shallow talent pool for romance..

Shitty tattoos...

Kids growing up without you...

Nah, got better things to do with my time even if I will never be a millionaire.


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[oldrider]

No riding...

Shallow talent pool for romance..

Shitty tattoos...

Kids growing up without you...

Nah, got better things to do with my time even if I will never be a millionaire.


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Pora got stitched up for sure but in the long run what would have been his outcome had he been left alone?

He appears to be getting (what he deserves?) well compensated. :confused:

It will be interesting to see what he does from here out!

Meanwhile back in the jungle:

Good law abiding kids get student loans (debt) struggle to make their way pay for their own training lodgings and food transport etc.

Criminals get free lodgings clothing and food get free trade career training work experience breaks and a job at the end of it.

All sounds balanced to me - yeah right. :scratch:

[Banditbandit]

Free rent, electricity bills all paid, free gym membership and 3 meals a day provided for over 21 years... plus $2 million payout upon check-out? Yes please!

So - you can spend 21 years with:

No unlocked doors - you have to stand by EVERY door and wait for a guard to open it

You have to eat when you are told and eat what you are given ...

You are not allowed a cellphone

You are not allowed Internet access

You have to sleep shit and pee in the same room ...

Surrounded by criminals ...

Lights go out when the guards say ...

Your cell is searched on a random basis ..

You only see the outside at rec time - when the guards get around to letting you out ...

You have to wear what they give you ...

Guards supervise your visits. Contact (i.e. touching your visitor) is a privilege

Arguign with the guards means loss of privilege

[TheDemonLord]

Pora got stitched up for sure but in the long run what would have been his outcome had he been left alone?

He appears to be getting (what he deserves?) well compensated. :confused:

It will be interesting to see what he does from here out!

Meanwhile back in the jungle:

Good law abiding kids get student loans (debt) struggle to make their way pay for their own training lodgings and food transport etc.

Criminals get free lodgings clothing and food get free trade career training work experience breaks and a job at the end of it.

All sounds balanced to me - yeah right. :scratch:

And yet, I'd choose a student loan instead of jail everytime

[Erelyes]

Pora got stitched up for sure but in the long run what would have been his outcome had he been left alone?

He appears to be getting (what he deserves?) well compensated. :confused:

It will be interesting to see what he does from here out!

Yeah but put yourself in his shoes. What choices did he have? Shit, he didn't probably didn't even know what choices there were for him.

Mum dead at 4, dad never there, fetal alcohol damage, an upbringing where he was bounced around various grandparents, boys homes, and an aunt.

Falling in with the mob (probably the only 'family' he ever knew) wasn't just likely, it was almost inevitable.

Then one day he finds a bat in a drain, and his aunt puts him up to the cops insisting black and blue he did it, even though he didn't. Fuck me, if he didn't already feel alienated by his kin then, that put the nail in the coffin.

So tell me more about these guardian angels that swing about rescuing impressionable 16 year old car thieves from the clutches of the mob.


Meanwhile back in the jungle:

Good law abiding kids get student loans (debt) struggle to make their way pay for their own training lodgings and food transport etc.

Criminals get free lodgings clothing and food get free trade career training work experience breaks and a job at the end of it.

All sounds balanced to me - yeah right. :scratch:

Yeah but the trouble is, even once you're convicted of a crime, you have the right to be given the benefit of the doubt - in terms of wanting to turn your life around.

And if you've got someone who does want to go a different direction, but The State treats em like shit, it's not exactly an incentive.

So how do we differentiate* between those who have the inclination to contribute to society, and rotten scumbags that just want to watch the world burn?

*in a way that can be written into laws, cos that's how we roll

[sidecar bob]

He actually insisted that he did it, why the fuck you would do that is anyone's guess. Even if he didn't, it wasn't smart & hardly surprising he did a stretch.
Guarantee he's broke & in deep shit within 5 years.
Every P peddler in the country knows his name, what he's worth & how smart he is.

[Big Dog]

So - you can spend 21 years with:

No unlocked doors - you have to stand by EVERY door and wait for a guard to open it

You have to eat when you are told and eat what you are given ...

You are not allowed a cellphone

You are not allowed Internet access

You have to sleep shit and pee in the same room ...

Surrounded by criminals ...

Lights go out when the guards say ...

Your cell is searched on a random basis ..

You only see the outside at rec time - when the guards get around to letting you out ...

You have to wear what they give you ...

Guards supervise your visits. Contact (i.e. touching your visitor) is a privilege

Arguign with the guards means loss of privilege
Plus: all his "mates" quite correctly believed him a snitch.
The original idea was to snitch for cash after all.

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[old slider]

Yeah but put yourself in his shoes. What choices did he have? Shit, he didn't probably didn't even know what choices there were for him.

Mum dead at 4, dad never there, fetal alcohol damage, an upbringing where he was bounced around various grandparents, boys homes, and an aunt.

Falling in with the mob (probably the only 'family' he ever knew) wasn't just likely, it was almost inevitable.

Then one day he finds a bat in a drain, and his aunt puts him up to the cops insisting black and blue he did it, even though he didn't. Fuck me, if he didn't already feel alienated by his kin then, that put the nail in the coffin.

So tell me more about these guardian angels that swing about rescuing impressionable 16 year old car thieves from the clutches of the mob.



Yeah but the trouble is, even once you're convicted of a crime, you have the right to be given the benefit of the doubt - in terms of wanting to turn your life around.

And if you've got someone who does want to go a different direction, but The State treats em like shit, it's not exactly an incentive.

So how do we differentiate* between those who have the inclination to contribute to society, and rotten scumbags that just want to watch the world burn?

*in a way that can be written into laws, cos that's how we roll


After watching the last couple of episodes of the 40 yrs of study that's being done on 1012 new borns, with their astounding results being replicated in other countries, it appears regardless of where you live or which so called level of society you come from, those early years (nurturing/loved etc) are crucial to our outcome.

The area researched on teenagers fascinated me and my long held view of chucking the little buggers into jail has changed and it seems our justice system is starting to agree.

Teenagers simply don't think the same as adults (Sweden class under 25s as children) we probably all did stupid shit as teenagers and luckily many of us didn't get locked up for it, it seems once you have been incarcerated your life takes a different path judging by our very poor success rate in those being released.

Time will tell, but research suggests once we get past those impulsive non thinking teen age years ( and having a decent upbringing) the majority become reasonable members of society.

[EJK]

So - you can spend 21 years with:

No unlocked doors - you have to stand by EVERY door and wait for a guard to open it
Personal security guards. Better than my rottweiler at home!

You have to eat when you are told and eat what you are given...
Healthy eating dietary meal so I don't get diabetes and die of fat-ass-ness

You are not allowed a cellphone
But allowed Sky TV and an XBox. Mt Eden is pretty awesome you know.

You are not allowed Internet access
No porn. OK fine you get a point for this one.

You have to sleep shit and pee in the same room ...
Simple lifestyle living space. Don't have to worry about gardening and weeding.

Surrounded by criminals ...
Making friends

Lights go out when the guards say...
Bed time stories too? No? OK another point for you.

Your cell is searched on a random basis ..
House cleaning!

You only see the outside at rec time - when the guards get around to letting you out ...
Mandatory exercise and smoko time. Hell, I don't even get much fresh air and walking time at my current white-collar job.

You have to wear what they give you ...
You kidding... Free laundry and clothings too? Awesome! Steve Jobs also had one style of clothing anyways.

Guards supervise your visits. Contact (i.e. touching your visitor) is a privilege
Someone wants to see me? Awww...

Arguign with the guards means loss of privilege
Then don't argue aye?

:D :D :D +10 chars

[Big Dog]

:D :D :D +10 chars
Trolling, or a very narrow view?

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[pritch]

Every P peddler in the country knows his name, what he's worth & how smart he is.

Sad but true.

The $100,000 per year inside formula is based on the amount paid to Arthur Allan Thomas. That was a long time ago now and if corrected for inflation would be about double what Pora has been offered.

The money will be placed in a trust in an attempt to control his outgoings but that will only be as good as the other members of the trust. If he buys even a modest house in Auckland that'll be half his money gone.

[Voltaire]

He actually insisted that he did it, why the fuck you would do that is anyone's guess. Even if he didn't, it wasn't smart & hardly surprising he did a stretch.
Guarantee he's broke & in deep shit within 5 years.
Every P peddler in the country knows his name, what he's worth & how smart he is.

P as in Porsche?

[BuzzardNZ]

P as in Porsche?

:killingme

you must spread...

[sidecar bob]

P as in Porsche?

LOL, im sure he will buy something far more gangsta than one of those piles of shit, probably a flash az Falcon. But only after he gets a diiverz licence of course.

[Banditbandit]

Every P peddler in the country knows his name, what he's worth & how smart he is.

Apparently the money is going into a trust ...

So he won't be able to blow it all at once (pun intended).

A good situation - I wouldn't give him a lump sum and turn him loose ..

[neels]

Apparently the money is going into a trust ...

So he won't be able to blow it all at once (pun intended).

A good situation - I wouldn't give him a lump sum and turn him loose ..
I heard it as his money is going into a maori trust.

I fear for his future, given the number of times I've seen in the news of money going into maori trusts and seemingly disappearing into thin air, and nobody ever seems to know where it all went.

Hopefully there is someone looking after his interests, to keep at bay the ones looking after their own....

[jonbuoy]

After watching the last couple of episodes of the 40 yrs of study that's being done on 1012 new borns, with their astounding results being replicated in other countries, it appears regardless of where you live or which so called level of society you come from, those early years (nurturing/loved etc) are crucial to our outcome.

The area researched on teenagers fascinated me and my long held view of chucking the little buggers into jail has changed and it seems our justice system is starting to agree.

Teenagers simply don't think the same as adults (Sweden class under 25s as children) we probably all did stupid shit as teenagers and luckily many of us didn't get locked up for it, it seems once you have been incarcerated your life takes a different path judging by our very poor success rate in those being released.

Time will tell, but research suggests once we get past those impulsive non thinking teen age years ( and having a decent upbringing) the majority become reasonable members of society.

Insisting to Police that you were involved in a rape and murder is on another level to pinching milk off the neighbors doorstep. If he had any involvement or knowledge of the crime 20 years seems about right, 20 years for a prolific car thief who wants to join a gang isn't out of the realms of reality either.

[Katman]

If he had any involvement or knowledge of the crime 20 years seems about right

He couldn't even point out which house it was when the police took him to the scene.

[neels]

He couldn't even point out which house it was when the police took him to the scene.
One could almost think that his confession (of sorts) might have been related to the fact he was a gang prospect, and the police were quite happy to accept it to get the case off the books.

But no, that would never happen with the honest justice system we have in good old NZ

[Akzle]

fucken jews

[Crasherfromwayback]

He actually insisted that he did it, why the fuck you would do that is anyone's guess. Even if he didn't, it wasn't smart & hardly surprising he did a stretch.
Guarantee he's broke & in deep shit within 5 years.
.


Insisting to Police that you were involved in a rape and murder is on another level to pinching milk off the neighbors doorstep. If he had any involvement or knowledge of the crime 20 years seems about right, 20 years for a prolific car thief who wants to join a gang isn't out of the realms of reality either.

Have you guys even bothered to read anything about this case/poor cunt? I seriously doubt it reading these responses. No fucking idea.

[Akzle]

Have you guys even bothered to read anything about this case/poor cunt? I seriously doubt it reading these responses. No fucking idea.

sideshowboob's just a racist old nigger. It wouldnt matter if this kid saved puppies from a burning building. His crime is being dark skinned.
Jon maybe not much different.

[Crasherfromwayback]

sideshowboob's just a racist old nigger. It wouldnt matter if this kid saved puppies from a burning building. His crime is being dark skinned.
Jon maybe not much different.

Yeah I'm beginning to wonder...

[mada]

It's a pittance for the time spent in jail and what he has lost...

Govt probably spent close to that amount in legal fees convicting and then defending the conviction.

However the state does pretty poorly when it comes to compensating for fark ups and accidents.

The family of the innocent teen who was accidentally shot and killed by police on NW motorway only got $200,000+

No amount of money for either can go far enough or be enough. They should look at wrap around services (housing, training, free counselling for life) more than just $ compensation.

[Katman]

One could almost think that his confession (of sorts) might have been related to the fact he was a gang prospect, and the police were quite happy to accept it to get the case off the books.

But no, that would never happen with the honest justice system we have in good old NZ

Supposedly he was led to believe (by the police) that he would entitled to the reward that was on offer if he stuck to his 'confession'.

[Katman]

sideshowboob's just a racist old nigger. It wouldnt matter if this kid saved puppies from a burning building. His crime is being dark skinned.
Jon maybe not much different.

And he's now just pissed that a 'dirty nigger' is now richer than him.

[Akzle]

It's a pittance for the time spent in jail and what he has lost...

Govt probably spent close to that amount in legal fees convicting and then defending the conviction.

However the state does pretty poorly when it comes to compensating for fark ups and accidents.

The family of the innocent teen who was accidentally shot and killed by police on NW motorway only got $200,000+

No amount of money for either can go far enough or be enough. They should look at wrap around services (housing, training, free counselling for life) more than just $ compensation.

bro. jews.
If it aint monetary it may as well be greek.

Plus, i love how they say "the crown spent..."

yeah... With EVERYONES fucken money.
Bad value, that crown thing. Fuck knows why crackers vote for it.

[Akzle]

Sad but true.

The $100,000 per year inside formula is based on the amount paid to Arthur Allan Thomas. That was a long time ago now and if corrected for inflation would be about double what Pora has been offered.

The money will be placed in a trust in an attempt to control his outgoings but that will only be as good as the other members of the trust. If he buys even a modest house in Auckland that'll be half his money gone.

not entirely correct dawg.

The compensation is based on culpability of "the crown" (just whoo is that guy, "crown"? pesky fucking cunt)
ie, plant evidence, lie under oath, frivolous charges, breach of due process etc.

But. Irregardless, the jews get paid.

[mada]

bro. jews.
If it aint monetary it may as well be greek.

Plus, i love how they say "the crown spent..."

yeah... With EVERYONES fucken money.
Bad value, that crown thing. Fuck knows why crackers vote for it.

Hey come on the crown aint that bad....

Look at how they treated these dirty coppers...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4760589/Police-deny-code-of-silence-in-coverups

oh wait... two honest cops who admit to lying lose their livilihoods and go to prison... while the person they defended stays employed as a cop for a few more years, hung trials, and finally gets a stay for proceedings on manslaughter/assault and defeating court of justice. He resigns a free and "innocent" man.

Another legendary tale of NZ's justarse system.

[sidecar bob]

bro. jews.
If it aint monetary it may as well be greek.

Plus, i love how they say "the crown spent..."

yeah... With EVERYONES fucken money.
Bad value, that crown thing. Fuck knows why crackers vote for it.

Have to say, your fuckin constant banging on about Jews is getting a bit old & tiresome. Why don't you google something new to get you nickers in a twist about.
The $5 & a bag really needs upgrading too, it's like Groundhog Day.
You are long overdue for some new & interesting material. It's like watching an old Eddie Murphy video.

[Akzle]

Have to say, your fuckin constant banging on about Jews is getting a bit old & tiresome. Why don't you google something new to get you nickers in a twist about.
The $5 & a bag really needs upgrading too, it's like Groundhog Day.
You are long overdue for some new & interesting material. It's like watching an old Eddie Murphy video.

it's a deal.

If you genuinely stop being a racist nigger.

[Laava]

Have to say, your fuckin constant banging on about Jews is getting a bit old & tiresome. Why don't you google something new to get you nickers in a twist about.
The $5 & a bag really needs upgrading too, it's like Groundhog Day.
You are long overdue for some new & interesting material. It's like watching an old Eddie Murphy video.
Yep, he's been boring on about the same old shit since he joined up. Fuckin yawn!

[sidecar bob]

it's a deal.

If you genuinely stop being a racist nigger.

Turns out I'm actually not, I spent a week in America last month (sorry, I know you can only dream of doing that kind of thing) & it turns out that I rather liked them & found them to be a lovely bunch on the whole, so yeah, not racist at all it seems.

[scumdog]

So - you can spend 21 years with:

No unlocked doors - you have to stand by EVERY door and wait for a guard to open it

You have to eat when you are told and eat what you are given ...

You are not allowed a cellphone

You are not allowed Internet access

You have to sleep shit and pee in the same room ...

Surrounded by criminals ...

Lights go out when the guards say ...

Your cell is searched on a random basis ..

You only see the outside at rec time - when the guards get around to letting you out ...

You have to wear what they give you ...

Guards supervise your visits. Contact (i.e. touching your visitor) is a privilege

Arguign with the guards means loss of privilege

Yet for some it's better than trying to sort out themselves and their life - and they'll tell you that.

[scumdog]

Have to say, your fuckin constant banging on about Jews is getting a bit old & tiresome. Why don't you google something new to get you nickers in a twist about.
The $5 & a bag really needs upgrading too, it's like Groundhog Day.
You are long overdue for some new & interesting material. It's like watching an old Eddie Murphy video.

Eddy Murphy videos aren't as bad as that though....

[sidecar bob]

Eddy Murphy videos aren't as bad as that though....

I agree, his delivery is priceless, but you have to admit, you have seen them all before.:yawn:

[Akzle]

Turns out I'm actually not, I spent a week in America last month (sorry, I know you can only dream of doing that kind of thing) & it turns out that I rather liked them & found them to be a lovely bunch on the whole, so yeah, not racist at all it seems.

methinks you've missed the point entirely.
Go hug some darkies.

[JimO]

And he's now just pissed that a 'dirty nigger' is now richer than him.
wont be for long once the whanau get going

[sidecar bob]

And he's now just pissed that a 'dirty nigger' is now richer than him.

LOL, Really, is that a fact? Did you check the NBR rich list? I also have the satisfaction of knowing that mine was worked for.

[sidecar bob]

methinks you've missed the point entirely.
Go hug some darkies.

I shared some quality time with a few Mexicans & Niggers at an Aussie themed pub in LA & enjoyed every minute of it. But whatever you pick up from my online persona must be gospel. Good onya.

[Akzle]

I shared some quality time with a few Mexicans & Niggers at an Aussie themed pub in LA & enjoyed every minute of it. But whatever you pick up from my online persona must be gospel. Good onya.

niggers. You'd fit right in.

it's not so much that i "pick up" from your persona, rather, you pretty much outright stated that all murries were going to rob you. Thats pretty much the definition of racist.


Oh, and the vibe i pick up from your online persona.
That shits nignorant AND racist.
But. Like a puppy, i'm sure you can be taught.
...Not how you'd teach a puppy though cos that shits ignorant.

[Banditbandit]

You have to wear what they give you ...
You kidding... Free laundry and clothings too? Awesome! Steve Jobs also had one style of clothing anyways.

You realise that you don't get back the clothes you handed in .. you get what comes out of the bulk wash ... used underwear and all ..

[Banditbandit]

Yet for some it's better than trying to sort out themselves and their life - and they'll tell you that.

Yes ... what a black place they live in if jail is better than the outside world ...

But that's also a worry - how do you reform them? Jail will not do it ... nor even count as a punishment ...

What a sad indictment on our society when some members think jail is their best option ..

[Akzle]

Yes ... what a black place they live in if jail is better than the outside world ...

But that's also a worry - how do you reform them? Jail will not do it ... nor even count as a punishment ...

What a sad indictment on our society when some members think jail is their best option ..

the pokey has been proven effective for several hundred years of colonial//

o, wait on...

[Hitcher]

Pora got stitched up for sure but in the long run what would have been his outcome had he been left alone?

He appears to be getting (what he deserves?) well compensated.

It will be interesting to see what he does from here out!

Meanwhile back in the jungle:

Good law abiding kids get student loans (debt) struggle to make their way pay for their own training lodgings and food transport etc.

Criminals get free lodgings clothing and food get free trade career training work experience breaks and a job at the end of it.

All sounds balanced to me - yeah right.

What may or may not have happened to Mr Pora had he not been wrongfully imprisoned is speculative and immaterial. Teina Pora's reputation has suffered enough without him being tried by the ever-unreliable court of public opinion.

What he does in the rest of his life, if it is law-abiding, should be no interest of anybody's other than that of Mr Pora, his family and friends.

What happens to other prisoners while they are serving prison time and subsequently has nothing to do with this matter. And debt forgiveness for people who struggle to repay student loans also has nothing to do with forgiveness by the Crown for wrongful conviction and imprisonment.

[Maha]

What may or may not have happened to Mr Pora had he not been wrongfully imprisoned is speculative. See first question.

Teina Pora's reputation has suffered enough without him being tried by the ever-unreliable court of public opinion. See second question.



You probably class yourself as an Intelligent person, What (in your opinion) does a Gang prospect have to do to advance himself through the ranks?

What do you suspect his reputation was before police told him there was a reward of $20,000 for assistance in capturing Susan Burdett's murderer? Loved by many? An upstanding model citizen? Known for his generosity and kindness?

[Trade_nancy]

Free rent, electricity bills all paid, free gym membership and 3 meals a day provided for over 21 years... plus $2 million payout upon check-out? Yes please!

Agree. 2.5mill is looked down on (by some) as inadequate for 21 years. Well..after 21 years a free man...how much would the best of us have in the bank? Most would have only a small fraction of that after paying power rates and medical bills all that time....those costs maybe should be factored before deciding on the appropriateness of the payout. After 42 years of working as a "free" man...I don't have enough in the bank for more than a new small car. So perhaps the amount he has received is more like - say $6mill...taking into account his being supported all the way.
If he now buys a house in South Auckland he'll still have a million and a half in the bank. What is the problem with that?

[EJK]

Agree. 2.5mill is looked down on (by some) as inadequate for 21 years. Well..after 21 years a free man...how much would the best of us have in the bank? Most would have only a small fraction of that after paying power rates and medical bills all that time....those costs maybe should be factored before deciding on the appropriateness of the payout. After 42 years of working as a "free" man...I don't have enough in the bank for more than a new small car. So perhaps the amount he has received is more like - say $6mill...taking into account his being supported all the way.
If he now buys a house in South Auckland he'll still have a million and a half in the bank. What is the problem with that?

And no mortgage, which is like better off than most NZers :eek:

Own a house in Auckland mortgage free before 50? Check!

[BuzzardNZ]

And no mortgage, which is like better off than most NZers :eek:

Own a house in Auckland mortgage free before 50? Check!

Don't your kind own most of Auckland already? Seems like you've got that and now you want our prisons too?

[Berries]

Saw him on the TV tonight. Does he get sponsorship from that famous clothing brand Notorious?



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[Crasherfromwayback]

Yet for some it's better than trying to sort out themselves and their life - and they'll tell you that.

So what does that tell you/us?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Agree. 2.5mill is looked down on (by some) as inadequate for 21 years. Well..after 21 years a free man...how much would the best of us have in the bank? Most would have only a small fraction of that after paying power rates and medical bills all that time....those costs maybe should be factored before deciding on the appropriateness of the payout. After 42 years of working as a "free" man...I don't have enough in the bank for more than a new small car. So perhaps the amount he has received is more like - say $6mill...taking into account his being supported all the way.
If he now buys a house in South Auckland he'll still have a million and a half in the bank. What is the problem with that?

You've got it bad. You'd wilt well before he did. You're exactly the type of person I despise.

[nzspokes]

Agree. 2.5mill is looked down on (by some) as inadequate for 21 years. Well..after 21 years a free man...how much would the best of us have in the bank? Most would have only a small fraction of that after paying power rates and medical bills all that time....those costs maybe should be factored before deciding on the appropriateness of the payout. After 42 years of working as a "free" man...I don't have enough in the bank for more than a new small car. So perhaps the amount he has received is more like - say $6mill...taking into account his being supported all the way.
If he now buys a house in South Auckland he'll still have a million and a half in the bank. What is the problem with that?

:eek5::facepalm:

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/81156239/duncan-garner-for-23-cents-each-teina-pora-could-get-a-proper-payout

[jasonu]

Give it 5 maybe 10 years and he will have it all pissed down a drain.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Give it 5 maybe 10 years and he will have it all pissed down a drain.

Serious question. Do you think you'd do anything other than that if you had the same back round as he has?

[jasonu]

Serious question. Do you think you'd do anything other than that if you had the same back round as he has?

Almost definitely.


And I'll bet all his 'long lost bros and best mates from way back when' will all be coming out of the woodwork to help him squander his newly gotten gains.

[Akzle]

Serious question. Do you think you'd do anything other than that if you had the same back round as he has?


Almost definitely.


i propose some science.

go to prison for 21 years, then we'll finish the science.

[scumdog]

i propose some science.

go to prison for 21 years, then we'll finish the science.

So, you KNOW different?

Or just guessing?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Almost definitely.


his newly gotten gains.

I wouldn't mind betting there'd be no diff apart from the flavour of the piss you'd buy. You should watch the doco (Why Am I) that's been on TV of late.

Newly gotten gains ya reckon? Makes it sound easy.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Pora was done over. I am pleased he is getting something and I think ~$5m should be the figure.

That is the serious part of my post.

The less serious part (because some of you cunts have no fucking idea when I am serious and not) is:

Lets hope that David Bain, Scott Watson and Mark Lundy get appropriate compensation now because of the whole being innocent thing.

[Akzle]

So, you KNOW different?

Or just guessing?
no, what i do is propose science. vis:


i propose some science.

fuckwit.



and since we're speculating on times ahead of now, and being what common science doesn't know times ahead of now, EVERYONE is just guessing.
just that most of them are doing it through the lens of entrenched ignorance+/ racism.

fuckwit.

[scumdog]

no, what i do is propose science. vis:



fuckwit.



and since we're speculating on times ahead of now, and being what common science doesn't know times ahead of now, EVERYONE is just guessing.
just that most of them are doing it through the lens of entrenched ignorance+/ racism.

fuckwit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, rant to the hand, rant to the hand brother, I'm sure somebody somewhere will give a fat rats arse about you 'thoughts'.

[Akzle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, rant to the hand, rant to the hand brother, I'm sure somebody somewhere will give a fat rats arse about you 'thoughts'.
see point a:


fuckwit.

[jasonu]

Newly gotten gains ya reckon? Makes it sound easy.

Well they are gains and they are newly gotten. I didn't say anything about easy or otherwise.

[scumdog]

see point a:

See post #67....:yawn:

[Virago]

Give it 5 maybe 10 years and he will have it all pissed down a drain.


Almost definitely.


And I'll bet all his 'long lost bros and best mates from way back when' will all be coming out of the woodwork to help him squander his newly gotten gains.

I heard the money was to be looked after by a Maori Trust. Which is an even bigger risk when they use the money to hold never-ending huis to discuss the matter.

[JimO]

I heard the money was to be looked after by a Maori Trust.
what could possibly go wrong

[pritch]

I heard the money was to be looked after by a Maori Trust.

The trust is reportedly formed of a few of the people closest to him. His sister is one? While most, or all, may be Maori it probably isn't accurate to call it a "Maori Trust" as such.

[pete376403]

Weren't some of the "people closest to him" partially responsible for him being in the slammer in the first place? I recall seeing that his Aunt among others was dobbing hin in to the cops very early in the piece.

[JimO]

Weren't some of the "people closest to him" partially responsible for him being in the slammer in the first place? I recall seeing that his Aunt among others was dobbing hin in to the cops very early in the piece.
yes with family like that who needs enemys

[Virago]

The trust is reportedly formed of a few of the people closest to him. His sister is one? While most, or all, may be Maori it probably isn't accurate to call it a "Maori Trust" as such.

I stand corrected. However I still have some concern that this naive fella may fall prey to manipulation and good old-fashioned avarice. Time will tell. I wish him well.

[Edbear]

I stand corrected. However I still have some concern that this naive fella may fall prey to manipulation and good old-fashioned avarice. Time will tell. I wish him well.

I agree. If he benefits and retains the money and control over the next 12 months I will be very surprised.

[Hitcher]

You probably class yourself as an Intelligent person, What (in your opinion) does a Gang prospect have to do to advance himself through the ranks?

What do you suspect his reputation was before police told him there was a reward of $20,000 for assistance in capturing Susan Burdett's murderer? Loved by many? An upstanding model citizen? Known for his generosity and kindness?

These questions are speculative and immaterial. He was wrongfully imprisoned, that is neither speculative nor immaterial, as the Crown's willingness to compensate him testifies.

[sidecar bob]

These questions are speculative and immaterial. He was wrongfully imprisoned, that is neither speculative nor immaterial, as the Crown's willingness to compensate him testifies.

Pora speculated on getting a reward for dobbing, unfortunately he mistook dobbing for saying he did it himself. regardless, he certainly got a far better return than the 50k he was hoping for. (& it was 50k, not 20, the original reward)

[Maha]

These questions are speculative and immaterial. He was wrongfully imprisoned, that is neither speculative nor immaterial, as the Crown's willingness to compensate him testifies.

Your failure to answer even the first question (could be any gang prospect) says that you know what is expected of them, but would rather not say because it would contradict what you said earlier.

[Oakie]

Flew back with him on the same flight from Rarotonga yesterday. Had better seats than me the prick!

[sidecar bob]

Flew back with him on the same flight from Rarotonga yesterday. Had better seats than me the prick!

Raro?? Wow, he really is indulging in world travel like he said he would.
Soon he may go somewhere that even uses a different currency!

[oldrider]

Flew back with him on the same flight from Rarotonga yesterday. Had better seats than me the prick!

And you paid for them all! :whistle:

[Oakie]

And you paid for them all! :whistle:

Might have even been TVNZ who paid. Turns out he was interviewed by them over there.

[oldrider]

Might have even been TVNZ who paid. Turns out he was interviewed by them over there.

Actually I hope everything turns out OK for him from here on out - not really in anyone's interest to the contrary is it? :shifty:

[Stylo]

The mother on TV3 tonight , holier than though, make-up and lipstick and so-so sad, never ever her fault but someone else's.

Her face covered with tattoos, Moko's father was black power and a complete loser as well.

The Uncle on Tv tonight, covered in tattoos up to his jaw-line and struggling to say how sad he was before fucking up his words ...

The people convicted can rot but, I can sense a bit of irony here.

I bet Mum and all her cronies are sparking up tonight and having a few bevies to celebrate,

I struggle to empathise with people who make no effort to improve their lives. Scum.

Poor Moko, he was doomed as soon as he was born ..

[JimO]

that woman was a early childhood teacher

[Crasherfromwayback]

The mother on TV3 tonight , holier than though, make-up and lipstick and so-so sad, never ever her fault but someone else's.

Her face covered with tattoos, Moko's father was black power and a complete loser as well.

The Uncle on Tv tonight, covered in tattoos up to his jaw-line and struggling to say how sad he was before fucking up his words ...

The people convicted can rot but, I can sense a bit of irony here.

I bet Mum and all her cronies are sparking up tonight and having a few bevies to celebrate,

I struggle to empathise with people who make no effort to improve their lives. Scum.

Poor Moko, he was doomed as soon as he was born ..

What has this got to do with Pora?

[Stylo]

What has this got to do with Pora?

Probably not much, Pora and Moko ?

My mistake

[Crasherfromwayback]

Probably not much, Pora and Moko ?

My mistake

Not sure any of us would be great additions to society if we had the same start in life as Pora had mate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teina_Pora

[Akzle]

The mother on TV3 tonight , holier than though, make-up and lipstick and so-so sad, never ever her fault but someone else's.

Her face covered with tattoos, Moko's father was black power and a complete loser as well.

The Uncle on Tv tonight, covered in tattoos up to his jaw-line and struggling to say how sad he was before fucking up his words ...

The people convicted can rot but, I can sense a bit of irony here.

I bet Mum and all her cronies are sparking up tonight and having a few bevies to celebrate,

I struggle to empathise with people who make no effort to improve their lives. Scum.

Poor Moko, he was doomed as soon as he was born ..

you. Are a nignorant fuck.

Thats. About. It.

[scumdog]

you. Are a nignorant fuck.

Thats. About. It.

But is he wrong??<_<

[Akzle]

But is he wrong??<_<

probably.
anything an old white nigger says after "i bet" can be safely written off as ignorant shit.

[scumdog]

probably.
anything an old white nigger says after "i bet" can be safely written off as ignorant shit.

Is that a fact......:rolleyes:

[Akzle]

Is that a fact......:rolleyes:

yes .