When is it classed as 'doing a runner'?

[Biff]

A topic done to death here, and I've no interest in getting into the rights and wrongs of doing such a thing. But when is doing a runner from the cops actually considered as such? Not so much from a cops perspective, but from a bikers.

Imagine the (hypothetical) scene......

Light traffic, 50 zone, pootling along at around 50 - legal speeds - muppet in a turbo'd "pfffft" (dump valve) 4 wheeled machine pulls along side, revving hard and obviously up for a little 'action'. Unaware of the power/speed advantage most motormacycles have over all but the most expensive and finely tuned 4 wheeled sports monsters, he thinks he can beat you.

You enter a 100K zone, the cage accelerates hard, you pause then open the throttle hard, accelerating fast, making the cage driver look like he's standing still. As you do so your radar detector goes off, you glance to the opposing lane of the motorway and notice, a little too late, a police car (poor observational skills duly noted) coming in the opposite direction. The police car driver switches on his flashyblinkylights - you keep it nailed. By the time you roll off the throttle you're doing illegal speeds, but on a clear motorway. You glance in your mirror and note that said cop car has driven over the centre medium and is now headed in your direction. You keep to your speed, then take the first junction off the motorway and blast through local lanes. Never to see the police car in question again.

A runner?

[Sniper]

A topic done to death here, and I've no interest in getting into the rights and wrongs of doing such a thing. But when is doing a runner from the cops actually considered as such? Not so much from a cops perspective, but from a bikers.

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I would class that as a runner. Esp when it looked like the policeman was trying to pull you over. The bottom line is the policeman was never seen again so employ the thought," Out of sight and out of mind"

You coming on this weekends ride?

[WRT]

As soon as you realise that they want to pull you over, and you make a mental decsion NOT to conform, its a runner.

[bugjuice]

if you think about the logic involved - there's a good chance you'd be up to something like 150, with very little effot. For the cop to catch you, not only do they have to get to 150 to match your speed, they have to beat it to catch up. And that's if you haven't just whacked it open to 200+ which would mean in theory for the fuzz to catch you, they'd ideally need to be up to 250-280 in the blink of an eye, just to get your rego. So you could (balls permitting) just keep going and hope they didn't get too much of a distription.

But, being me, I'd be paranoid and most likely give it up way before then, and to top it off, me being me, coming out of the 50 to a 100 zone, I would have popped the front wheel up high and fukt off which would piss them off, so they'd try harder, while you just cruise. The boy racer gets pinged by the cop, you go past them waving the birdie..
so, don't speed kids..

[**R1**]

(hypothetical)
:killingme :rofl: :laugh: yeah right, u dangerous bastards that do runners:shifty:

[scumdog]

Hmm, seen a lot of cars/bikes fanging off down side roads when they see blue&red lights behind them, sad thing is I was going to another emergency!!

Probably sitting in the pub that night: "yeah man, youshouldaseen how my FXR150 left that cop car in the dust, never even knew which way I went".....

[Smorg]

Probably sitting in the pub that night: "yeah man, youshouldaseen how my FXR150 left that cop car in the dust, never even knew which way I went".....

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: classic

[TonyB]

Hmm, seen a lot of cars/bikes fanging off down side roads when they see blue&red lights behind them, sad thing is I was going to another emergency!!

Probably sitting in the pub that night: "yeah man, youshouldaseen how my FXR150 left that cop car in the dust, never even knew which way I went".....
LOL Twice (yes TWICE) I have been riding through Deans Ave (?- road that goes through middle of Hagley Park) at night going too fast, when a cop car with lights blazing/ flashing came up behind me. Heart skiped beat. Began to pull over. Cop car accelerated away to continue on its merry way. PHEW!

As for your "hypothetical" runner Biff. Yep, I reckon it was... err... would have been. Of course, if you didn't "see" the cop car, then it wasn't ... err ... wouldn't have been.

[gamgee]

Probably sitting in the pub that night: "yeah man, youshouldaseen how my FXR150 left that cop car in the dust, never even knew which way I went".....
i think you mean gn125, cause those are the quickest bikes on the road ahe :dodge:

[gamgee]

you eased off the throttle to me a runner is when you twist it the other way, you just did the smart thing that anyone with half a brain would have and pulled off the motorway at the first chance

[bugjuice]

As soon as you realise that they want to pull you over, and you make a mental decsion NOT to conform, its a runner.
so until you make the decision, it's not a runner?

[Biff]

Hmm, seen a lot of cars/bikes fanging off down side roads when they see blue&red lights behind them, sad thing is I was going to another emergency!!

Yup, I can believe that. And this hypothetical person would probably have consoled himself with the thought that said cop was on his way somewhere else.

If, hypothetically speaking, it was me and it was 'obvious' that I was being chased, I'd stop in a heart beat. But if there was a car behind me, and there was a chance that the cop may attempt to stop the car first, and there was enough of an air gap to instil confidence that my rego hadn't been clocked - then I'd probably keep going until I was sure it was me he was after. But I wouldn't start taking unnecessary risks, or attempt anything resembling a runner in town. Snot worth it IMO.

Aaron - You're a bad influence. Hypothetically.

[*sic]

runner. hypothetically speaking..

[VasalineWarrior]

Definitly a runner, but not a particularly dangerous one. I'd say most of us would think hard about taking a similar course of action-only do it if you know ya can get away though!

[ManDownUnder]

I thought the ruale of our fair land dicatated you salow down and/or get out of the way of those flashinglightsandwailingnoises vehicles.

In hypothetically failing to do that you're taking a decision to evade said flashinglightsandwailingnoises vehicles, which I would class as a runner...

Ironically my description would stick whether you are actually the one being persued or not...

[**R1**]

Aaron - You're a bad influence. Hypothetically.ME!!! I cant help the fact Im cool and everone wants 2b like me....don't they?:confused:

[jrandom]

that was a runner, Biff.

but a reasonably well-considered one.

your hypothetical rider gets the relevant scout patch and may now move on to attempting wheelies.

[ManDownUnder]

ME!!! I cant help the fact Im cool and everone wants 2b like me....don't they?:confused:

sure do - except the picking and eating snot part... I think that's a bit much...

[Lou Girardin]

Sounds like a runner to me.

[Ixion]

I'd call it a dodger. After all, Mr Hypo didn't know for certain that the cop was after him. Is akin to what happens (I'm told :whistle: :innocent: ) in built up areas, where a cop car seen in the rear view mirror , slowing down and looking suspiciously like he's about to do a U turn, is said sometimes to remind a rider that there is a short cut to his destination. That involves immediately ducking down a side street, along a pedestrian walkway, and down (or up) a grassy bank. Not actually running away. Just saving Mr Plod come paperwork. Would stop immediately if hailed. Not rider's fault that plodmobile can't fit down walkway.

I'd define a runner as a high speed pursuit. If he never gets close enough to actually pursue you, 'tis not a runner. IMHO.

[jrandom]

I'd define a runner as a high speed pursuit. If he never gets close enough to actually pursue you, 'tis not a runner. IMHO.

I think your benig ever so slightly duplicitous and disingenuous in your defense of biff's hypothetibiker...

[Deano]

It's only a runner if you get caught - otherwise it never happened....wasn't me....can't prove anything. :whistle:

[TonyB]

I think your being ever so slightly duplicitous and disingenuous in your defense of biff's hypothetibiker...
Sorry Fish- couldn't resist! MUHAHAHAhahahahaaaaaaa :devil2:

[jrandom]

Sorry Fish- couldn't resist!

say wha?

since when are you one of the cares-about-typos nazis?

what a bore.

[Sniper]

I got nettiquet nazi. What is that meant to mean.

[Slingshot]

I think you're being ever so slightly duplicitous and disingenuous in your defense of biff's hypothetibiker...



Sorry Fish- couldn't resist! MUHAHAHAhahahahaaaaaaa :devil2:

You missed one!!!

[jrandom]

You missed one!!!

nicely spotted, manager-boy.

[Lou Girardin]

Not rider's fault that plodmobile can't fit down walkway.
IMHO.

Our Holden Ute did, at least far enough up the domain walkway that the rider fell off when he hit the grass. :devil2:

[TonyB]

say wha?

since when are you one of the cares-about-typos nazis?

what a bore.
Haha- never. You just used a big word what I didn't understand- I had to chuck it in Thesaurus to get the meaning. Couldn't resist taking the micky.

Has this altered my psychological profile?

[jrandom]

Haha- never. You just used a big word what I didn't understand

but... I just made 'hypothetibiker' up on the spot. would have thought youd twig to that.


Has this altered my psychological profile?

your asking me?

honestly, I never imagined that my posts would have such a profound effect, but hey, if I can twiddle with a subconscious or two its all good I guess.

[Sniper]

honestly, I never imagined that my posts would have such a profound effect, but hey, if I can twiddle with a subconscious or two its all good I guess.

Womens Right isn't it?

[jrandom]

Womens Right isn't it?

more like Woman's Always Right.

[Sniper]

more like Woman's Always Right.

Only in their books

[TonyB]

but... I just made 'hypothetibiker' up on the spot. would have thought youd twig to that..
:no: duplicitous
Plus just today a co-worker and I were trying to remember the exact word for disingenuous... we were describing another co-worker

your asking me?

honestly, I never imagined that my posts would have such a profound effect, but hey, if I can twiddle with a subconscious or two its all good I guess. erm... 'fraid you haven't twiddled anything of mine yet. Was another PT

Anyhoo- this is way of topic. Good to see by Ixions standards I have never done a runner...

[**R1**]

I'd define a runner as a high speed pursuit. If he never gets close enough to actually pursue you, 'tis not a runner. IMHO.sweet...in that case I have only done half the runners I thought i had...

[Biff]

I'd call it a dodger. After all, Mr Hypo didn't know for certain that the cop was after him.

I'd define a runner as a high speed pursuit. If he never gets close enough to actually pursue you, 'tis not a runner. IMHO.

Wise words from such a wise KBer. Mr Hypo alledgedly thanks you for helping allay some of his paranoia.


certain Woman Always think they're Right.

Couldn't agree more.

[madboy]

sweet...in that case I have only done half the runners I thought i had...Really? I thought you were quicker than that. If that is the criteria, my imaginary friend has only done about three...

Biff, your hypo mate is a sorry excuse for a human being. They're gonna kill someone one day... I mean - what the hell were they thinking by buttoning off before they were home?