Decisions, decisions

[Bassai]

We have decided to buy an additional bike.

Want something more modern (current love is 1993). Heres the criteria


1200cc's +
Fast
Powerful
Handles well (nimble)
Good for Sports Touring
Decent size pillion seat
Good distance gas range
Can spend up to $25k



Any suggestions? I am very open

[nzspokes]

Been through that recently and got a GSX1250fa for a number of reasons. But fast came after the Holeshot kit.

One to look at would be a BMW S1000xr. It will tick all the boxes apart from 25k, you may need to throw another couple of thousand in.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-891524031.htm

I would buy that as my 2up bike if I could afford it but sadly I cant.
You would need drop the 1200cc requirement.
I had a zx14r but it was ok at doing most things but only great at going very fast.

[SVboy]

Gsx1300r goodness.

[Mike.Gayner]

1200+ is a limiting and strange criteria.

[mossy1200]

1200+ is a limiting and strange criteria.
+1
Takes the nimble away and when 750cc makes more hp than the zzr1100 not really required.
If the bikes mainly touring then fair call but the nimble is gone.

The new z1000 sports tour looks good

[Big Dog]

+1
Takes the nimble away and when 750cc makes more hp than the zzr1100 not really required.
If the bikes mainly touring then fair call but the nimble is gone.

The new z1000 sports tour looks good
You should try a CB1300.
More nimble than a lot of sub 1000cc.
Enough torque to grab the wrong gear.
Reliable as anything.


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[EJK]

Gsx1300r goodness.

*sigh*

I think this is the perfect time to say it...

Get a busa!

[Gremlin]

Sporty: ZX14, ZX12, Busa
Touring: ST1300, Concours 14
More naked: S1000XR, Caponord

[Big Dog]

*sigh*

I think this is the perfect time to say it...

Get a busa!
It's always the perfect time to get a 'busa!*

*Subject to finance and the self control required to keep your license.
Terms and conditions may apply that include but not limited to selling your soul to the devil to fund your desire to just go for a ride.
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[iaingsx1300r]

Having owned several Busa's and ZX14's, go the 14 for a good all round sports tourer. Every time I head out for a ride, its a grin fest and disappointing to park it up. The Busa is a great bike also but only a mother can love those looks!!

[Big Dog]

Having owned several Busa's and ZX14's, go the 14 for a good all round sports tourer. Every time I head out for a ride, its a grin fest and disappointing to park it up. The Busa is a great bike also but only a mother can love those looks!!
It ain't the shape. It's the tacky factory paint jobs most come with.

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[AllanB]

It's the shape - they try to hide it with tacky factory paint jobs.

Next model will be interesting. Will they change it? I say yes - a big physical change and it will be proclaimed as the new busa.


Just think of the flat Yammy V-max sales for the new model - too much like the old one.

[tlronny]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/1065615150
http://www.trademe.co.nz/1113879729

[tlronny]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/861154037
http://www.trademe.co.nz/1117228127

[mulletman]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/1065615150
http://www.trademe.co.nz/1113879729

People here say Busa's are visually challenging :blink:

[tlronny]

People here say Busa's are visually challenging :blink:
None are my cup of tea either but just going on what OP may like up to their $ limit.
I had an '03 Ltd and it was a great bike but tyre wear was horrendous with showing off the great torque it had...

[Ulsterkiwi]

We have decided to buy an additional bike.

Want something more modern (current love is 1993). Heres the criteria


1200cc's +
Fast
Powerful
Handles well (nimble)
Good for Sports Touring
Decent size pillion seat
Good distance gas range
Can spend up to $25k



Any suggestions? I am very open

Apart from the engine size bit I had a similar if not identical list of considerations when recently buying new.
I have an Aprilia Caponord 1200 Strada.

Your specific list

1200+
this is a 1200 Italian V twin. Even with the stock exhaust it sounds pretty amazing. Chap on a Z1000 with Yoshis told me, so it must be true. It definitely has a nice hooligan sound.

Fast
Bike is as fast as you need on the road if you want to keep your licence. I ride with peeps who ride the likes of 1200GSs, Z1000, Blackbird, TNAB, Street Triple, GSXR750 etc, so while not race bikes are not exactly slow.

Powerful
It has 125HP, again not the most you will find but plenty for real world.

Nimble
Big wide bars, you just think about turning and it does it. Pretty slim in the body compared to my previous IL4 and much easier to chuck around. I happily do the Kapiti to Wgtn commute at various times and weathers, I have no problems filtering. Its "only" 214kgs dry.

Good for sports touring
I have no chicken strips and I am not a racer, this is a confidence inspiring machine. I have the base version which has adjustable front and rear Sachs suspension, the TP and Rally versions have a semi-automatic suspension set up which is highly rated. Even with the fully manual version the adjustments are easily accessible so you can readily allow for luggage and/or pillion. I am 1.96m and 110kg in the nip so a few more with my gear, to say nothing of being a bit bulkier. The seat is absolutely brilliant. Riding two up, both me and my pillion have lots of space and the peg positions are good.

Decent size pillion seat
Big reason for choosing the bike, my very fussy wife selected the Caponord out of all other bikes I tried and she test-pillioned. I have had testimonials from riders who have owned BMW tourers and big adventure bikes or the various Multistrada versions or KTMs and they all say this is the superior bike for two up comfort AND handling.

Good distance gas tank
24litre tank, I do 350kms pretty much every time between orange warning lights, yet to put more than 20litres in. 400kms therefore seems a very safe bet.

Can spend $25k
Bike was $19990. That came with heated grips and Givi pannier racks as well as the plate and 6 months ACC contribution, sorry vehicle licence. There are factory rails for luggage but as I didn't like the look of the factory colour matched panniers available and had my eye on some nice Givi ones anyway, I went for the Givi option.
Since then I put Hepco and Becker engine bars, Givi LED foglights, a California Science screen, Denali Sound Bomb, RadGuard radiator and oil cooler guard and an extra power outlet on the bike. (there is a USB socket under the pillion) I got Givi Trekker luggage, two 33l panniers and a 52l top box plus liners. All up I spent less than $3k on farkles so well within your budget.
The touring pack version which has the ADD electronic suspension, hot grips, centre stand and factory panniers and maybe even cruise control (please check!) can be yours for about $23/24k OTR.


Downsides?
Its Italian, or so everybody keeps telling me, I have had no issues 5000kms in.
I did change the front sprocket down one tooth ($30 sprocket) to lower the gearing a bit. Apparently all big Vtwins are like that. I think that's bollox. The bike is a joy on the open road. I sometimes forget the top couple of gears are there. Its nowhere near as vibey as the S1000XR which is odd, given thats a 4 pot.
I am tall so had to get the taller screen but the stock one has a good 50mm of adjustment and there are a few options out there.
I found it a bit frustrating that most of the stuff I wanted it was simpler and much quicker to shop online myself. The NZ importer do not put the same effort into supporting Aprilia aftermarket bits-and-bobs-wise that they do with BMW and Triumph. Still the net is your friend!

The bike is not perfect and like all the competition will doubtless have its detractors. I do think however that Aprilia missed out by not promoting it better.

Definitely worth a test ride and this is a good time to be shopping, dealers are keen to refresh their floor stock, you might get a very sharp deal.

[Big Dog]

People here say Busa's are visually challenging :blink:
Yup.
My first thought on opening those links was "is that a big exhaust or are you just pleased to see me?"

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[nzspokes]

Yup.
My first thought on opening those links was "is that a big exhaust or are you just pleased to see me?"

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Busa and the 14 are both long as well. Im more comfortable on a Gixxer 1k. Not good bikes for shorter peeps.

[iaingsx1300r]

People here say Busa's are visually challenging :blink:
You can always replace the exhaust.....

[F5 Dave]

Here you go. Looks better and sounds better than aanything mentioned so far. And nimble? No contest.

Pillion? Take the bus bitch, I'm too busy having fun.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1155481549.htm

[Big Dog]

Busa and the 14 are both long as well. Im more comfortable on a Gixxer 1k. Not good bikes for shorter peeps.
On the other have a GSXR1000 under me looks like a 600 under most riders.

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[WristTwister]

We have decided to buy an additional bike.

Want something more modern (current love is 1993). Heres the criteria


1200cc's +
Fast
Powerful
Handles well (nimble)
Good for Sports Touring
Decent size pillion seat
Good distance gas range
Can spend up to $25k



Any suggestions? I am very open

Dis http://www.autobase.co.nz/motorbikes-for-sale/Yamaha/XTZ1200/Motorbike---Dual-Purpose/1710101.htm :whistle:tho not strictly speaking "sports".

or dis http://www.autobase.co.nz/motorbikes-for-sale/Yamaha/FJR1300/Motorbike---Road-Sports/2689975.htm

[Maha]

On the other have a GSXR1000 under me looks like a 600 under most riders.

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NZsargeis like that, he is fucking huge. He monster'd the 14 that he had ...his previous FZ1 had no chance.

People who start threads like this, generally end up buying something very different than what has been offered up as a suggestion to the question.

[mulletman]

Dis http://www.autobase.co.nz/motorbikes-for-sale/Yamaha/XTZ1200/Motorbike---Dual-Purpose/1710101.htm :whistle:tho not strictly speaking "sports".

or dis http://www.autobase.co.nz/motorbikes-for-sale/Yamaha/FJR1300/Motorbike---Road-Sports/2689975.htm

Not bad options there.

[TheDemonLord]

+1 for a Busa here,

I put comfort Bars on mine and it's the ideal Sport Tourer, yes it does look ugly - but when you are on it, you can't see it, and everyone else just thinks you look cool*


To address your requirements:

It's bigger than 1200.
It's Bloody Fast
It's Bloody powerful
I think it handles well - although this one is about perspective, I find it tips in nicely and on a sweeper, it feels planted and stable, other people who are used to supersport/superbike handling might find it a bit heavy.
It's amazing for sport touring (specially with the comfort bars on it, I could ride it till the cows come home, it's got a nice comfy seat as stock, although I am thinking about upgrading to a Gel seat)
The Pillion seat is nice and generous (and is Wife approved)
Tank Range - on a full tank, I'm getting about 300 Km (which is commuting through traffic) I've not done a long road trip on it to see the mileage I get on the open road
Brand spankers 2016 will set you back $20K






*That's what I tell myself anyway

[Banditbandit]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/1065615150
http://www.trademe.co.nz/1113879729

That Honda looks even worse than the early models ..

[liljegren]

38,ooo kms in, no problems. Fast, comfy (two up all over Europe) , get the 'S' with Ohlins...

[MarkGSXR]

*sigh*

I think this is the perfect time to say it...

Get a busa!

Thats what id buy