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Maha
9th September 2016, 16:39
Just an Idea at this very early stage. If there is enough interest on here and FB I will make it happen.

Some basic points on how the ride goes for those who have not been on any of the three prior rides.

: Learner friendly ride, group three primarily is for learner/newer but comfortable at 100 kph is a requirement.
: Looking to do the ride Feb/March 2017.
: 24 people maximum.
: It’s over three days Friday/Saturday/Sunday
: Friday ride up, Saturday ride to the Cape and back, Sunday ride home.
: Three separate riding groups consisting of eight bikes in each group.
: Learner friendly ride, group three primarily is for learners but comfortable at 100 kph is a requirement.
: Group one will usually peel off at different stages to do other roads. Paparoa/Oakliegh. Matauri bay Loop and some will do a bit of Ninety Mile beach on the Saturday. As long as they know the Lunch stop times it's all good.
: Stay at Coopers Beach (Motel) Eight rooms so there is sharing to consider.
: Room one sleeps six so normally for the single boys.
: Another room sleeps 4-5 so is good for the single girls.
: There is room for tents if that’s your thing.
: An all-inclusive per person price will be settled on (*Food included)

*Food.
In the past the hosts have put on two cooked breakfasts and two hot evening meals, which was included in the per person price. Lunches you pay for separately, Lunch stops are arranged prior to the ride date. Normally Paihia on Friday and Pukenui on Saturday on the way back from the Cape and either Waipu or Mangawhai on the way back.
Not sure about the breakfasts/tea this time, I have not been in contact with the Motel as yet about it. One other ride we did, we got $10 off everyone and that feed 23 people Pizza for tea and enough food for a decent fry up the next morning (Two Meals) If we have to fend for ourselves this time, the option is to and get Fish and Chips and whatever else they may have in Coopers Beach/Cable Bay for the second night. Breakfasts will be at Pukenui on the Saturday and Kerikeri on the Sunday.

Ball Park Costs.
We will endeavor to keep the cost per person under $200.

18 Probables so far.

Black Knight
10th September 2016, 08:46
Count me in if I can join at Paihia and leave at Waipu/Mangawhai,being local and all that

Maha
10th September 2016, 09:21
All good with that, we always get one or two day riders from up that way but if you're going to stay even better.
There are 14 interested on FB so far, all ex KBers including one expat who will be here at that time and one returning German fulla who was on the last trip.
Looking like a March ride, several of the interested are date dependent. February proving to be a busy month for some including us.

george formby
10th September 2016, 09:44
All good with that, we always get one or two day riders from up that way but if you're going to stay even better.
There are 12 interested on FB so far, all ex KBers including one expat who will be here at that time and one returning German fulla who was on the last trip.
Looking like a March ride, several of the interested are date dependent. February proving to be a busy month for some including us.

I would be pretty disappointed if we could not catch up with you both. What FB page are you talking about?

Maha
10th September 2016, 10:17
I would be pretty disappointed if we could not catch up with you both. What FB page are you talking about?

Thirty/30 is our place of choice in Paihia for lunch on the Friday, they did and amazing job last time with getting the food out pretty much all together. That's because they were aware of the numbers turning up and what time. They had all the food prep done, burger buns at the ready...:yes:

Facebook page is our personal one, I will add you if you PM me your last name. I know where you live/your first name and birth date..:shifty:

MarkW
11th September 2016, 10:13
And to confirm that I still lurk around the fringes of this place from time to time - if I'm around when you all come up then I'll be along to ride/assist/whatever. Don't do facebook at all so you'll have to use something else to keep me up to date.

Black Knight
11th September 2016, 10:13
I would be pretty disappointed if we could not catch up with you both. What FB page are you talking about?

Whats this "catch up" Mark-A couple of nights at Coopers would be good fun,show these guys some Northern hospitality.

Maha
11th September 2016, 10:44
Whats this "catch up" Mark-A couple of nights at Coopers would be good fun,show these guys some Northern hospitality.

One year there was a guitar/enough alcohol to help you sing songs you don't know and a fire on the beach... It's the stories and the people that make the weekend.
Introverts need not apply :wari:

On the road though, we always ride in separate groups for safety reasons and the respect shown for everyone and by everyone is enormous.
Mark Waters from up that way always puts in an appearance starting at Whangarie on the Friday.

george formby
11th September 2016, 10:55
And to confirm that I still lurk around the fringes of this place from time to time - if I'm around when you all come up then I'll be along to ride/assist/whatever. Don't do facebook at all so you'll have to use something else to keep me up to date.

We could enter into correspondence. Pretty sure I still have a couple of stamps in me wallet.

BK, I have previously been a party to one of these gang runs but I'm not deterred to meet up again.:laugh:

Maha
11th September 2016, 11:57
And to confirm that I still lurk around the fringes of this place from time to time - if I'm around when you all come up then I'll be along to ride/assist/whatever. Don't do facebook at all so you'll have to use something else to keep me up to date.

Once I have everything (well most) things set in place Mark I will start a new thread with the ride details in the first post as per the other rides.
Should actually make Te Kao a compulsory stop for one of those world famous Ice creams. :niceone:

MrMarko
11th September 2016, 12:40
Mark me down for group one. :cool:

Maha
11th September 2016, 12:43
Mark me down for group one. :cool:

NO. :nono:

MarkH
11th September 2016, 12:52
I'd be interested (I like icecream), probably look at camping rather than a room.

Under $200 is fine, I just spent $1045 to register both my bikes so less than two hundy seems like not much money in comparison.

Just need to know the date once that is decided and I can check to make sure I can have the Friday off work.

Maha
11th September 2016, 13:06
I'd be interested (I like icecream), probably look at camping rather than a room.

Under $200 is fine, I just spent $1045 to register both my bikes so less than two hundy seems like not much money in comparison.

Just need to know the date once that is decided and I can check to make sure I can have the Friday off work.

If you fancy some time on 90 Mile beach the DR may seem the bike of choice ;)

nerrrd
11th September 2016, 13:09
Also, don't forget to bring a hat, it can get quite sunny up there :o.

Maha
11th September 2016, 13:20
Also, don't forget to bring a hat, it can get quite sunny up there :o.

A wet flannel works a treat....and gives the rest of us a laugh...would you be keen?

nerrrd
11th September 2016, 13:27
A wet flannel works a treat....and gives the rest of us a laugh...would you be keen?

Not everyone can pull off that look :D I would but I'm a bit between incomes at the moment, I'll keep an eye on the thread as it get's closer to the time :).

MarkH
11th September 2016, 13:46
If you fancy some time on 90 Mile beach the DR may seem the bike of choice ;)

I'm still a novice off-road and I'm not that confident on the sand, but yeah - the DR would a fuck-tonne better than the ST1300 if I wanted to go on the beach.

MrMarko
11th September 2016, 23:11
NO. :nono:

Yes.......... best behavior blah blah blah im not rolling with the noobs.

Maha
12th September 2016, 10:28
I'm still a novice off-road and I'm not that confident on the sand, but yeah - the DR would a fuck-tonne better than the ST1300 if I wanted to go on the beach.

Here is the video of the beach part from 2013.


I've just done a quick edit to remove about 25 minutes of sky and sand. This is what the red rag was for on my screen...that and a bit of tape and a compact camera. Impressed with the result. Thanks to Mark for taking us out and the sound advice.


http://youtu.be/Q4ZYkj-QN0A

djp
12th September 2016, 10:51
Here is the video of the beach part from 2013.

What kind of bike is required for the beach part?

EJK
12th September 2016, 10:57
What kind of bike is required for the beach part?

One with two wheels? :msn-wink:

Sounds like another awesome organised ride! Will keep an eye on this thread.

djp
12th September 2016, 11:03
One with two wheels? :msn-wink:

Yeah yeah!

I mean is a dual-sport type bike needed

Maha
12th September 2016, 11:09
Yeah yeah!

I mean is a dual-sport type bike needed

The lead bike on that occasion was Honda NT650 road bike. They got onto the beach after leaving the Cape and met up with the rest of us at Pukenui for a burger and chips.

MarkW
12th September 2016, 12:38
Yeah yeah!

I mean is a dual-sport type bike needed

Hi,

As the local up here - a dual sport will make things simpler and easier but is not essential. My NT650 is a 248kg fully faired with built in panniers road tourer on a 120/70 17 road front tyre and a 140/80 17 road rear tyre. No, it won't climb sand dunes. But then the locals may take pot shots at you if you do. The beach is generally firm and hard and the only soft bit is normally the 10 or 20 metres between the hard part of the beach and the exit ramp. This has never been a problem for a bike. In the worst case situation two riders can easily walk a road bike through with one person each side. I've had a CB350 Honda twin, a Honda CB 750/4, a BMW K100 RS, a Suzuki RG 500, Honda NT600 and the 650 up and down the beach. In January of this year I took a visitor from the Netherlands on his V50 Moto Guzzi up the beach. The bike was fully loaded with every possession that the owner had in NZ and it was his first ride ever on sand. He had the biggest smile on his face at the end of the ride. Be adventurous!

djp
12th September 2016, 15:03
a dual sport will make things simpler and easier but is not essential

Cool, sounds fun. I have done some road trips overseas but here in NZ I have only really commuted.. would like to check something like this out

george formby
12th September 2016, 16:53
Hi,

As the local up here - a dual sport will make things simpler and easier but is not essential. My NT650 is a 248kg fully faired with built in panniers road tourer on a 120/70 17 road front tyre and a 140/80 17 road rear tyre. No, it won't climb sand dunes. But then the locals may take pot shots at you if you do. The beach is generally firm and hard and the only soft bit is normally the 10 or 20 metres between the hard part of the beach and the exit ramp. This has never been a problem for a bike. In the worst case situation two riders can easily walk a road bike through with one person each side. I've had a CB350 Honda twin, a Honda CB 750/4, a BMW K100 RS, a Suzuki RG 500, Honda NT600 and the 650 up and down the beach. In January of this year I took a visitor from the Netherlands on his V50 Moto Guzzi up the beach. The bike was fully loaded with every possession that the owner had in NZ and it was his first ride ever on sand. He had the biggest smile on his face at the end of the ride. Be adventurous!

And I find this out on KB? Pfffft. I can't get to miffed, your neighbours fish pie is still being remembered. If you can get Jas to do it, I'm in....

MarkH
12th September 2016, 17:10
Here is the video of the beach part from 2013.

OK, that does look like fun, but I still wouldn't take the ST1300 on the beach - that bitch is over 320kg before any gear or rider.
Maybe I'll bring the DR650, it's a pretty fun bike to ride and I can fit a decent amount of gear on it.
I took the DR650 to the Cold Kiwi this year, way easier on the wet gravel road in and out as well as getting around the site.

george formby
12th September 2016, 17:27
OK, that does look like fun, but I still wouldn't take the ST1300 on the beach - that bitch is over 320kg before any gear or rider.
Maybe I'll brink the DR650, it's a pretty fun bike to ride and I can fit a decent amount of gear on it.
I took the DR650 to the Cold Kiwi this year, way easier on the wet gravel road in and out as well as getting around the site.

Yeah, set yourself up for success. If you have a good fossick on the site I'm sure you will find photos and stories of riders on fully fledged 1000cc sprot bikes riding 90 mile. My biggest concern is getting fresh water on the bike as soon as poss. I'm a pom and know what saltwater does to a bike....:(

I reckon your DR will be a better bet in the twisties anyway. Nothing like a series of surprise hairpin bends to slow an ST1300 down. As much as I like them.

nerrrd
12th September 2016, 20:11
Here is the video of the beach part from 2013.


...He had the biggest smile on his face at the end of the ride. Be adventurous!

It was truly awesome, I highly recommend it – Mark is the man!

If I come along this time I'll be on my heavier bike, even so I don't think I'd be able to resist hitting the beach again.

Maha
12th September 2016, 20:41
Yes.......... best behavior blah blah blah im not rolling with the noobs.

Early indications suggest there will less newer riders than ever before. First year was probably a 50/50 split. The following year 25% newish riders and in 2013 even less maybe 4 out of 23 riders. On the Taupo ride in 2011 we had 11 newer riders out of 24.

Some of the more experienced riders on the last rides expressed concerns about the attitude of one in particular which was dealt with at the time. No one on these rides accepts anything less than respect for those you are riding with, at all times.

MrMarko
12th September 2016, 21:19
Early indications suggest there will less newer riders than ever before. First year was probably a 50/50 split. The following year 25% newish riders and in 2013 even less maybe 4 out of 23 riders. On the Taupo ride in 2011 we had 11 newer riders out of 24.

Some of the more experienced riders on the last rides expressed concerns about the attitude of one in particular which was dealt with at the time. No one of these rides accepts anything less than respect for those you are riding with, at all times.

I'm nearly 30 ive been riding for 12 years... im pretty sure i can handle a bike... im well aware the road isnt a race track. your call.

Maha
13th September 2016, 07:32
I'm nearly 30 ive been riding for 12 years... im pretty sure i can handle a bike... im well aware the road isnt a race track. your call.

You are more than welcome to come, I always add to the main ride thread first page No Hero's No Egos and that is for everyone. One of your old mates from your first round on KB has interest in the ride.

Black Knight
13th September 2016, 09:41
If we are planning to do the beach prolly need to ensure the tide is right for the planned rally date-Ideally we should be looking for a low tide early PM to ensure the sand is hard enough for riding and there is time to complete the ride.I have looked at the tides for March 17 and Sat 25th may be the option with low tide at 3pm.

Saarg
13th September 2016, 11:50
Just an Idea at this very early stage. If there is enough interest on here and FB I will make it happen.

Some basic points on how the ride goes for those who have not been on any of the three prior rides.

: Looking to do the ride Feb/March 2017.
: 24 people maximum.
: It’s over three days Friday/Saturday/Sunday
: Friday ride up, Saturday ride to the Cape and back, Sunday ride home.
: Three separate riding groups consisting of eight bikes in each group.
: Learner friendly ride, group three primarily is for learners but comfortable at 100 kph is a requirement.
: Group one will usually peel off at different stages to do other roads. Paparoa/Oakliegh. Matauri bay Loop and some will do a bit of Ninety Mile beach on the Saturday. As long as they know the Lunch stop times it's all good.
: Stay at Coopers Beach (Motel) Eight rooms so there is sharing to consider.
: Room one sleeps six so normally for the single boys.
: Another room sleeps 4-5 so is good for the single girls.
: There is room for tents if that’s your thing.
: An all-inclusive per person price will be settled on (*Food included)

*Food.
In the past the hosts have put on two cooked breakfasts and two hot evening meals, which was included in the per person price. Lunches you pay for separately, Lunch stops are arranged prior to the ride date. Normally Paihia on Friday and Pukenui on Saturday on the way back from the Cape and either Waipu or Mangawhai on the way back.
Not sure about the breakfasts/tea this time, I have not been in contact with the Motel as yet about it. One other ride we did, we got $10 off everyone and that feed 23 people Pizza for tea and enough food for a decent fry up the next morning (Two Meals) If we have to fend for ourselves this time, the option is to and get Fish and Chips and whatever else they may have in Coopers Beach/Cable Bay for the second night. Breakfasts will be at Pukenui on the Saturday and Kerikeri on the Sunday.

Ball Park Costs.
We will endeavor to keep the cost per person under $200.

15 Probables so far.

I'm keen to jump on this ride
Would be happy to share on the SAARG page. To help get the message out.

Have you got any firm numbers and a ride date?


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Maha
13th September 2016, 12:22
I'm keen to jump on this ride
Would be happy to share on the SAARG page. To help get the message out.

Have you got any firm numbers and a ride date?


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Ride number cuts off at 24. The Motel has 19 beds in total, Obviously couples use only the one bed, which is why we can cater for 24. Plus it's a good number without being ridiculous. Three groups divide perfectly also. Some will take tents.

No date as yet but as Black Knight has said March 17/18/19 or the week after might be best for tides.

And what is SAARG?
Yes if there are some newer riders. It's not a Mentor, ride we just provide a safe riding environment for the new rider and the chance to experience something a little different, like riding to the Cape and have a shit load of fun while doing it. Mark Waters lives up that way, and as a once Motorcycle instructor, he provides that something extra for the learner. His knowledge is vast and he has even helped out with the odd mechanical adjustment from time to time when needed. He peels off as does the Matauri Bay loop on the way up with who ever wants to do it and leads the beach ride after the Cape.

Saarg
13th September 2016, 22:18
Ride number cuts off at 24. The Motel has 19 beds in total, Obviously couples use only the one bed, which is why we can cater for 24. Plus it's a good number without being ridiculous. Three groups divide perfectly also. Some will take tents.

No date as yet but as Black Knight has said March 17/18/19 or the week after might be best

Great,
That makes sense, seeing that there's limited space for accommodation


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Saarg
13th September 2016, 22:27
And what is SAARG?
Yes if there are some newer riders. It's not a Mentor, ride we just provide a safe riding environment for the new rider and the chance to experience something a little different, like riding to the Cape and have a shit load of fun while doing it. Mark Waters lives up that way, and as a once Motorcycle instructor, he provides that something extra for the learner. His knowledge is vast and he has even helped out with the odd mechanical adjustment from time to time when needed. He peels off as does the Matauri Bay loop on the way up with who ever wants to do it and leads the beach ride after the Cape.

South Auckland Adventure Riders (SAARG)
This is a social club on Facebook, of independent dual sport riders who live in and around Auckland, Franklin, Waikato, Rodney districts use South Auckland Adventure Riders Group to organize group rides and social

check us out on Facebook, I'd say a majority of us are experienced riders with capable bikes/ride experience.




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Black Knight
14th September 2016, 10:15
Sorry guys I did not word my post regarding tides quite right--Re-phrased it should read that during March only one weekend seems to be suitable for the beach ride and that is Saturday March 25th with low tide at around 3 pm.Having said this I don't think that we should pick that date just because of the beach ride as there will be other stuff to do.

bluninja
19th September 2016, 19:01
Here is the video of the beach part from 2013.

I still have the bike and the red rag, but the camera died. Was it really 2013? Must have been as I wasn't yet a granddad and oldest is coming up to 3 this year. Stayed at Coopers Beach Motel earlier this year, seemed to have gone downhill a bit. Certainly interested in going next year depending on dates etc.

I don't come on here that often now as I can't cope with the sarcasm and hurtful comments. :innocent:

Maha
19th September 2016, 21:12
I still have the bike and the red rag, but the camera died. Was it really 2013? Must have been as I wasn't yet a granddad and oldest is coming up to 3 this year. Stayed at Coopers Beach Motel earlier this year, seemed to have gone downhill a bit. Certainly interested in going next year depending on dates etc.

I don't come on here that often now as I can't cope with the sarcasm and hurtful comments. :innocent:

So it's closer to the beach then? :rolleyes:

aff-man
3rd October 2016, 12:04
Will need to see if there is still space closer to Christmas as i'll only know then if i am free....

But I may crawl out from under my rock for this.....

Maha
3rd October 2016, 14:29
Will need to see if there is still space closer to Christmas as i'll only know then if i am free....

But I may crawl out from under my rock for this.....

Jeepers Jonno you could always Top n Tail with Skidmark....no wait he ain't coming so scrap that terrible thought. :rolleyes:

WNJ
3rd October 2016, 23:23
My partners brother and his wife run 90 mile beach holiday park if that helps you ??

Maha
4th October 2016, 07:52
My partners brother and his wife run 90 mile beach holiday park if that helps you ??

A new venue could be looked at, a big plus is the massive eating area and bar. And I would just ask those who are coming to book their own room rather than the 'per head' price as per previous years. I think the QKS used to use that place when they did their Northern Exposure rides.

http://www.booking.com/hotel/nz/ninety-mile-beach-holiday-park.en-gb.html?aid=318615;label=English_New_Zealand_EN_NZ _20053251985-5sPTA9gnUeZM%2AUoCsCAqRgS107692793065%3Apl%3Ata%3A p1%3Ap2%3Aac%3Aap1t1%3Aneg%3Afi%3Atiaud-146342137270%3Adsa-199155574825%3Alp1011036%3Ali%3Adec%3Adm;sid=b3fbc 2e6f5bae79c0ecf09c8a9cb0d57;dest_id=-1520833;dest_type=city;dist=0;room1=A%2CA;sb_price _type=total;srfid=cec7866b03aa0888f03458e24b856190 0eb23411X1;type=total;ucfs=1&

Black Knight
4th October 2016, 09:02
Just to clarify,is 90 Mile Beach Holiday Park the new accommodation venue and what are the dates?-Cheers

Maha
4th October 2016, 13:22
Just to clarify,is 90 Mile Beach Holiday Park the new accommodation venue and what are the dates?-Cheers

No not as yet. Still waiting to hear from Coopers Beach, I might send a message today to follow up.

IkieBikie
30th October 2016, 07:43
Once I have everything (well most) things set in place Mark I will start a new thread with the ride details in the first post as per the other rides.
Should actually make Te Kao a compulsory stop for one of those world famous Ice creams. :niceone:

How you going Mark? Now I'm up North would be good to catch up, even if just for lunch in Paihia?
Got dates and itinerary sussed yet?

MrMarko
30th October 2016, 09:59
How you going Mark? Now I'm up North would be good to catch up, even if just for lunch in Paihia?
Got dates and itinerary sussed yet?

I've got a GS650G shaft drive with no motor kicking about doing nothing if you want a parts bike? up north

IkieBikie
30th October 2016, 17:58
I've got a GS650G shaft drive with no motor kicking about doing nothing if you want a parts bike? up north

what condition is it in and where are you? Whangarei? If so should meet up again. Long time since the Te Rapa

Maha
31st October 2016, 09:20
How you going Mark? Now I'm up North would be good to catch up, even if just for lunch in Paihia?
Got dates and itinerary sussed yet?

Last saw you guys on the Ohura Prison Ride 2013. As I said in post #1 ''Just an Idea at this very early stage. If there is enough interest on here and FB I will make it happen''. A lot of those who had expressed interest did so date dependent. A handful had said yes but a handful is just not enough. There needs to be at least 24 to make it viable. The Motel owner was going to get back to me re the costs, but that was back on September the 9th, I haven't heard a thing. So at this stage it is not looking likely.

IkieBikie
2nd November 2016, 18:11
I've got a GS650G shaft drive with no motor kicking about doing nothing if you want a parts bike? up north

Hoi where is it what you want for it. Catch you up for a drink?? Last time I saw you was at the Rapa with Carver

MrMarko
2nd November 2016, 20:44
Hoi where is it what you want for it. Catch you up for a drink?? Last time I saw you was at the Rapa with Carver

Yeap, have PM'd about it.

Beer sounds good.

MrMarko
10th February 2017, 11:51
Get out of my fucking way you nanas!