Motul 6 hour. Three bikes...WTF?

[Drew]

Just been lookin into doing the six hour next year. Had a a guy lined up to give the RF lump a freshen up to make sure it would last the distance. Fellow riders jacked up. Even found a place that sells race fairing for the old girl.

Then I fin out its a relay style race, and everyone rides their own bike. That's fucken gay!

Very disappointed.

[roogazza]

Just been lookin into doing the six hour next year. Had a a guy lined up to give the RF lump a freshen up to make sure it would last the distance. Fellow riders jacked up. Even found a place that sells race fairing for the old girl.

Then I fin out its a relay style race, and everyone rides their own bike. That's fucken gay!

Very disappointed.

Agree, I don't know why they don't just throw everyone in and make it a Two Hour ??

There must be some attraction about 6 hours of old,but its not ,is it? :wacko:

[Drew]

The six hour of old was awesome. Bike prep was key to winning, and good wheel changes. Good set up and rider fitness all super important. Now guys do a thirty minute stint each and get an hour to be ready for the next hoon.

That's not an endurance race, it's the same as running two classes at a bloody club round.

[sidecar bob]

The six hour of old was awesome. Bike prep was key to winning, and good wheel changes. Good set up and rider fitness all super important. Now guys do a thirty minute stint each and get an hour to be ready for the next hoon.

That's not an endurance race, it's the same as running two classes at a bloody club round.

It sounds like a recipe for bumsex endurance to me. Do they have a compulsory header wrap rule too?

[nodrog]

Just been lookin into doing the six hour next year. Had a a guy lined up to give the RF lump a freshen up to make sure it would last the distance. Fellow riders jacked up. Even found a place that sells race fairing for the old girl.

Then I fin out its a relay style race, and everyone rides their own bike. That's fucken gay!

Very disappointed.

You haven't just found out, I told you weeks ago, but Ken makes you not believe me.

[Oscar]

The six hour of old was awesome. Bike prep was key to winning, and good wheel changes. Good set up and rider fitness all super important. Now guys do a thirty minute stint each and get an hour to be ready for the next hoon.

That's not an endurance race, it's the same as running two classes at a bloody club round.

We could gas up and change a rear wheel on an FZR in 20 seconds.

[jellywrestler]

The six hour of old was awesome. Bike prep was key to winning, and good wheel changes. Good set up and rider fitness all super important. Now guys do a thirty minute stint each and get an hour to be ready for the next hoon.

That's not an endurance race, it's the same as running two classes at a bloody club round.

sounds like it's time for you to organise something how you want it then maybe?

[Dreama]

It was started last year by the guys that run 'Playday' pretty much mainly for the substantial number of riders that do track days.
If you scroll back to the info around last year when it was first being sounded out, you will find it was all about the track day riders that attended the Playday sessions.
Just another very entertaining way to run another trackday with a slightly more serious slant on it. A big challenge for many track day riders, and bloody interesting as well. Probably a good stepping stone for some as well.
It seems quite a few serious racers got on board as well, all good ... they were obviously at the pointy end.

So there it is Drew ... the concept was never meant to be a serious 6hr race like the 'old' one for serious teams and serious racers.

For the trackday riders (as opposed to 'racers') it is a big challenge, it's exciting and it's fun.

[Drew]

sounds like it's time for you to organise something how you want it then maybe?
Yeah, like that wouldn't be a total clusterfuck

[Drew]

You haven't just found out, I told you weeks ago, but Ken makes you not believe me.

Hmmm. Ken makes me completely forget that conversation.

[scrivy]

Hmmm. Ken makes me completely forget that conversation.

“Always do sober what you said you’d do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.”

[MrMarko]

An endurance race with 3 vehicles per entry.

Well ya wouldn't see that at le mans

What a joke, completely defeats the point of endurance racing.

[Drew]

“Always do sober what you said you’d do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.”

Pretty sure I'm ahead of the curve in regards to this.

[sugilite]

The six hour of old was awesome. Bike prep was key to winning, and good wheel changes. Good set up and rider fitness all super important. Now guys do a thirty minute stint each and get an hour to be ready for the next hoon.

That's not an endurance race, it's the same as running two classes at a bloody club round.

Back in ermmm my day one could spend an near an entire nats season worth of money on that one castrol 6 hour race - taking into account an engine freshen up and all that. Loved the concept, just not the price tag that came with it.

[Drew]

Back in ermmm my day one could spend an near an entire nats season worth of money on that one castrol 6 hour race - taking into account an engine freshen up and all that. Loved the concept, just not the price tag that came with it.
You don't remember that far back ol' mate.

[Mental Trousers]

The first 6 Hour was a great day. All the fun of an endurance race without somebody having to put up their own bike for 2 other guys to crash. With everyone riding their own machinery there were very few crashes. Except for those 2 idiots at turn 2-3 that got to test out the transponder retrieval drone. Expensive day for those two. We made it through the day even though we had to do it 2 man instead of 3.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/entry.php/6181-MOTUL-6-Hour-Endurance-Race-Hampton-Downs

[AllanB]

I think I agree with Drew on this one (is that bad?)

It needs a different title from the original 6 Hour.



This swap and tag ya mate thing is kind of like many of my time restraint rides of late - 30 minutes on fine open road roads and bends, a quick coffee and chat with other motorcyclists on a similar mission then a faster 25 minutes back due to the coffee fueling my blood.

[jellywrestler]

It needs a different title from the original 6 Hour.





you sound like my mate, he said the other night when we'd had a few, "I think I'll call it a night", dunno what was in his head as it was called a night fuck nose how long ago, how can he lay claim to that?

[jellywrestler]

The first 6 Hour was a great day.

yeah for Ginger Molloy who won solo on his new 1973 Z900.

[roogazza]

yeah for Ginger Molloy who won solo on his new 1973 Z900.
I see what you did there .

A mate nearly won the first Aussie one 1970 (Craig brown CB750).
Pic shows Craig wishing his brakes had lasted.
Len Atlee on a Bonny won it.
324644
But yes,maybe call it the Claytons 6hr lol.

[Dreama]

I'll concede the valid point about the title of the event, it's just semantically wrong.
Guess it should have been called "The 2hr x 3 rider x 3 bike pseudo endurance race for track day riders, over the hill cunts, wannabes and dick heads just wanting to have fun"
That at least would have clarified it and all the really serious 'commentators' would have felt justified with a "pffffttt ... fuck that poofter thing" type of dismissal.

Then they could wait for the next really serious and proper 6 hr endurance race to miraculously get organised by some poor saps with the unfortunate "If we keep doing the same thing the same way we might get a different outcome" syndrome.

[Drew]

I'll concede the valid point about the title of the event, it's just semantically wrong.
Guess it should have been called "The 2hr x 3 rider x 3 bike pseudo endurance race for track day riders, over the hill cunts, wannabes and dick heads just wanting to have fun"
That at least would have clarified it and all the really serious 'commentators' would have felt justified with a "pffffttt ... fuck that poofter thing" type of dismissal.

Then they could wait for the next really serious and proper 6 hr endurance race to miraculously get organised by some poor saps with the unfortunate "If we keep doing the same thing the same way we might get a different outcome" syndrome.
I was gonna compete ya tard. Booked an engine rebuild, suspension upgrades and all.

I'm not sure what happened back in the day to the proper six hour, but I don't think it would have made any difference to run it the way it is now.

[Dreama]

I was gonna compete ya tard. Booked an engine rebuild, suspension upgrades and all.

I'm not sure what happened back in the day to the proper six hour, but I don't think it would have made any difference to run it the way it is now.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out why a proper 6hr is impossible to keep going here ... $$$$$$$$
New engines, multiple tyres blah blah

At least this format is actually attracting lot's of entries.

[Drew]

It doesn't take a genius to figure out why a proper 6hr is impossible to keep going here ... $$$$$$$$
New engines, multiple tyres blah blah

At least this format is actually attracting lot's of entries.
It doesn't take more tyres than three bikes use. I was gonna do my motor up because it's done 98,000k's. A modern bike shouldn't need fuck all.

What's 'lots of entries'. Please decide total entries by three for fare comparison.

[sidecar bob]

It doesn't take a genius to figure out why a proper 6hr is impossible to keep going here ... $$$$$$$$
New engines, multiple tyres blah blah

At least this format is actually attracting lot's of entries.

Yeah, and three people to contribute to the running costs of one bike, instead of three bikes.
So in the current format you're guaranteed to Fuck a minimum of six tyres nine sets of brake pads & three engines.
People are so gullible.

[Dreama]

It doesn't take a genius to figure out why a proper 6hr is impossible to keep going here ... $$$$$$$$
New engines, multiple tyres blah blah

At least this format is actually attracting lot's of entries.

Another little point ... I only personally know a few track day riders but out of that tiny circle 3 of them have got their MNZ licenses (and joined clubs) to compete.
Multiply that by all the other entries and it's a nice boost to those organisations.
Hat's off to the 'Playday' team for that.

[sidecar bob]

Another little point ... I only personally know a few track day riders but out of that tiny circle 3 of them have got their MNZ licenses (and joined clubs) to compete.
Multiply that by all the other entries and it's a nice boost to those organisations.
Hat's off to the 'Playday' team for that.

You mean track day heroes?
The types that love to brag about doing a six hour in all their flash matching gear, when they didn't really?

[Dreama]

Yeah, and three people to contribute to the running costs of one bike, instead of three bikes.
So in the current format you're guaranteed to Fuck a minimum of six tyres nine sets of brake pads & three engines.
People are so gullible.

2 hrs isn't going to fuck an engine ... that's part of the point.

Fuck it ... I'm only a competitor in this and an old one at that.
I'm just trying to defend a pretty good concept being organised by people I barely know but who seem committed to the motorcycle sporting scene.

I have no figures to quote Drew .... just using a bit of common sense to draw conclusions and voice an opinion.

Over and out.

[sidecar bob]

2 hrs isn't going to fuck an engine ... that's part of the point.
.

Really, how many race engines do you run to know that?
I don't rebuild any of mine after six hours of use either.
Engines are like a piece of string, they could go for half an hour, or twenty years. That's why Drew & I were going to get one gone through professionally prior.

[Drew]

Perhaps I should word things a little more diplomatically so as to to inflict butthurt.

I would like very much if this event was correctly named, and the format clearly laid out. So people like myself and Sidecar bob who want to do an actual six hour race, don't get all enthusiastic and very nearly she'll out to prep a motor and bike.

To anyone entered the relay format, have fun. You were very close to competing in an endurance race.

[sidecar bob]

Not sure why there cant be a second class for people who do want to do it the old fashioned way.
It would increase competitor numbers for virtually no added expense.

[Drew]

Not sure why there cant be a second class for people who do want to do it the old fashioned way.
It would increase competitor numbers for virtually no added expense.
We're barred up about next year's event anyway. Mibbee I should send an email asking if that's a possibility.

[nodrog]

Racing is hard

[Drew]

Racing is hard

It seems it isn't allowed to be anymore.

[Kickaha]

Racing is hard

Tell me about it, I just did 38 laps of levels in one stint on my Bucket and now my knees don't work

[old rig]

Tell me about it, I just did 38 laps of levels in one stint on my Bucket and now my knees don't work
Didn't know they did a 24hour race down there [emoji12]

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[Mental Trousers]

Now you moaners have stopped going on about how good things used to be, there's 35 teams (105 riders) entered for the Motul 6 Hour.

[Drew]

Now you moaners have stopped going on about how good things used to be, there's 35 teams (105 riders) entered for the Motul 6 Hour.

Cool story bro.

[nzspokes]

Hopefully the Marshalls will get a break at this meeting.

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[sidecar bob]

Now you moaners have stopped going on about how good things used to be, there's 35 teams (105 riders) entered for the Motul 6 Hour.

Like I said, people are gullible.

[Katman]

So people like myself and Sidecar bob who want to do an actual six hour race.....

Now I know why you've gone all septic on me.

It's 'cos I insulted your boyfriend, innit?

[Drew]

Now I know why you've gone all septic on me.

It's 'cos I insulted your boyfriend, innit?

What the hell are you on about?

[sharp2183]

I think what Drew is getting at is that he wishes the event was a true endurance race. Fair play. Now that is out of the way, now often are race days at Hampton Downs fully booked out? Regardless of what you call it the event is appealing and from the top of my head has Tony Rees, Dillion, Toby, Dan M, Aaron etc etc all competing. Plus Stroud, Avalon etc last year.

So what we have is a sold out event that has both fast experienced racers going for the win, as well as less fast and experienced racers racing for fun, plus new riders who are still not slow getting into racing. Plus we have CSS coaches throwing their hand down too. And on top of that we have every rider sharing info on the event to their friends encouraging them to come and watch!

Come on guys, if you think that isn't good for the sport then I don't know what is. So what if it isn't a true 6 hour endurance.

[sidecar bob]

Now I know why you've gone all septic on me.

It's 'cos I insulted your boyfriend, innit?

When did you insult me? I thought it was all a light hearted bit of fun. It's KB for fucks sake, not real life.
You're actually quite a decent bloke IRL as best I can tell.
Drew would be the second most likely KB member to call me a cock sucking homo in person, closely behind kickaha.

[Drew]

I think what Drew is getting at is that he wishes the event was a true endurance race. Fair play. Now that is out of the way, now often are race days at Hampton Downs fully booked out? Regardless of what you call it the event is appealing and from the top of my head has Tony Rees, Dillion, Toby, Dan M, Aaron etc etc all competing. Plus Stroud, Avalon etc last year.

So what we have is a sold out event that has both fast experienced racers going for the win, as well as less fast and experienced racers racing for fun, plus new riders who are still not slow getting into racing. Plus we have CSS coaches throwing their hand down too. And on top of that we have every rider sharing info on the event to their friends encouraging them to come and watch!

Come on guys, if you think that isn't good for the sport then I don't know what is. So what if it isn't a true 6 hour endurance.

I didn't say it wasn't good for the sport. I said it's fucken gay.

[Voltaire]

Make sure your extension leads are Tested and Tagged at HD.....no wait...thats next year.:rolleyes:

[Mental Trousers]

Make sure your extension leads are Tested and Tagged at HD.....no wait...thats next year.:rolleyes:

Now that shits getting fucken ridiculous.

[sharp2183]

I didn't say it wasn't good for the sport. I said it's fucken gay.

I'm all for a full 6 hour if you want to organise it!