Has anyone owned a CF Moto 150 NK?

[apsolar]

Hello All,

I am looking for my first bike. I have a read a lot of reviews on this forum and elsewhere about a Suzuki GN 125, Aprilia ETX/STX 150, Yamaha Scorpio 225. But I am struggling to find any information on a CF Moto 150NK. I am looking for a commuter, fuel efficient and around $2500 - $3000 price bracket max.

For its current price of around $2500 NZD, the specs look good to me (Fuel Injected, Disk brakes on both wheels etc.). But I only know as much as I have read about bikes in the last month or so. I have not owned so my practical knowledge is zero.
http://www.cfmoto.co.nz/150nk

Have you had any experience with this bike or know of someone who has had any experience. I understand that it may not be as powerful as the Yamaha Scorpio, but if it manages to maintain 85-90 km/hr on the motorway then it would be sufficient. I am not after power. I also understand that smaller bike's don't hold great resale value but at $2500, I am sure I won't lose more than 30-40% when I am ready to upgrade.

What I don't know is how reliable it is and what are the other expenses involved to keep it mechanically sound. All of the above mentioned bikes are also affected by various issues of their own.

regards
Ankit

[flashg]

A bike that can only manage 85-90 kph on a motorway is not what I would call sufficient. (speed limit is 100 kph on motorways and the open road in NZ "I thought")
Personally I feel safer being able to keep up with the flow and not have every man and his dog overtaking me and putting me in danger.
Maybe the traffic on Auckland motorways doesn't exceed 85-90, if so you might be safe enough.
Buy the Scorpio, be safe.

[awayatc]

I would not buy a Chinese motorbike..

Had one once ....

Never again

[jellywrestler]

but if it manages to maintain 85-90 km/hr on the motorway then it would be sufficient.

and if there's a 20 kmh head wind that's 70kmh.....

[nzspokes]

Easy. Get the Scorpio. Will do 100kph with ease. Will last well. And will have good resale value.

[MrMarko]

Used to sell chinese bikes and do all the servicing for 4 years for 2 different at the time very well known importers.

Both since went under and are impossible to get parts for. Lets just say the metal quality certainly doesnt do well on vehicles.

Don't touch a chinese bike with a 10 foot pole, plenty of options out there around the 2500 mark i can get you a zzr250 off a friend for 2600, really tidy and well looked after.

Sure it's from the 90's but itll be more reliable and easier to find parts for than a new chinese bike.

The scorpio is also an absolute pile of deathtrap noob garbage... avoid such dinky piles of scrap and get a real bike.

[caspernz]

Stay away from the CF would be my suggestion...

Out of the choices you've listed, the Scorpio is the best bet.

Have you considered the second hand approach? If it's gonna be your first bike, you'll be bored with it before long anyway :msn-wink:

[MrMarko]

Ankit i would really avoid spending 2.5k on a brand new bike it really doesnt buy you much, i've ridden a scorpio it was absolute junk, no wonder so many learners crash them.

Nothing wrong with a 90s bike itll hold its value better come time to sell haha

Heck you can buy an rf400 on trademe for 2500, has new tyres paint etc looks like a new bike and thats learner legal.

[apsolar]

Hello All,

Thank you all for the suggestions. I am not going to consider the CF Moto option.

I had a look at Honda CBR125R today and now its between Honda CBR125R and Yamaha Scorpio.

Auckland motorway is congested for most part of the day when I can ride. I will be getting one of these second hand bikes as they hold some resale value when I am ready to upgrade.

regards
Ankit

[MrMarko]

I still think you are looking at bikes that are too new, the new era of little learner bikes. my friend still has a zzr250 for sale that you would enjoy alot more.

Basically the same engine in it as the new ninja 250. just a much cheaper bike :)

[MrMarko]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1161889217.htm

There is also this RF400 on trademe, also learner legal.

[apsolar]

I still think you are looking at bikes that are too new, the new era of little learner bikes. my friend still has a zzr250 for sale that you would enjoy alot more.

Basically the same engine in it as the new ninja 250. just a much cheaper bike :)

Hello Marko,

I agree that the scorpio isn't as exciting as the ZZR250. But the ZZRs are 90s bikes. That is 20+ years old models. With my limited knowledge I just feel safer with the newer models. If I had the know how, I would definitely consider a bike like that. Right now I want to figure out if motorcycling is a practical commuting option for me in the Auckland city.

regards
Ankit

[MrMarko]

Hello Marko,

I agree that the scorpio isn't as exciting as the ZZR250. But the ZZRs are 90s bikes. That is 20+ years old models. With my limited knowledge I just feel safer with the newer models. If I had the know how, I would definitely consider a bike like that. Right now I want to figure out if motorcycling is a practical commuting option for me in the Auckland city.

regards
Ankit

A 20 year old quality bike will be far more reliable and better built than the new piles of junk that are made in china/ thailand/ india.

I guarantee you will have less problems with the 20 year old japanese zzr.

I've only ever owned 80's and 90s bikes and ive had very little problems.

The ZZR or RF400 would be a great reliable commuter for you. don't let the age put you off a far superior bike.

[MrMarko]

If you don't believe me just ask EJK how grippy his scoprio was on its crappy little tyres lol.

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[awayatc]

Big difference between bikes and cars.
Bikes age much better,partly because they get used less and garaged more.
Older bikes are often easier to repair then newer ones...
And overall better build quality.
If it looks and feels good ,it is still good....

[jellywrestler]

There is also this RF400 on trademe, also learner legal.

not with an aftermarket pipe on it, you claim to know a lot but really leave yourself wide open....

[mossy1200]

not with an aftermarket pipe on it, you claim to know a lot but really leave yourself wide open....

Don't think anyone is having pipe issues. Id be claiming it went better with the original pipe but I damaged it when I dropped my bike. No gain in performance officer.

[MrMarko]

You'd have to be one hell of an asshole for a cop to pull you up and issue an infringement for your lams bike over modifying it by changing a muffler.

We arn't under nazi rule.

[MrMarko]

not with an aftermarket pipe on it, you claim to know a lot but really leave yourself wide open....

When did i claim to know alot please quote me.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1163281825.htm

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1169698302.htm

Road trip for you I think.

[MrMarko]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1163281825.htm

Thats really a good deal when it includes gear, 47,000km it would do the job so much better than what he is looking at.

I understand his mindset of new/ near new bike is going to be better but it simply isnt reality with the budget commuter garbage he is looking at... i'd prefer the superior brakes/tyre choices/engine etc of a jap bike like the zzr or a honda hornet.

[mossy1200]

Thats really a good deal when it includes gear, 47,000km it would do the job so much better than what he is looking at.

I understand his mindset of new/ near new bike is going to be better but it simply isnt reality with the budget commuter garbage he is looking at... i'd prefer the superior brakes/tyre choices/engine etc of a jap bike like the zzr or a honda hornet.

Bike dealers normally wont do a learner bike in poor condition so that's a good sign they are not pushing it on a auction that's unrelated to their shop.
Also the 2 cylinder lower rev bike is likely to have suffered less boy racer abuse than the old inline 4s.
I can remember the days when 250 4s first became cheap enough for young guys to own them second hand and they got thrashed every ride. It surprises me any made it past 15year old.

[apsolar]

Kawasaki Ninja's look great and I am sure they are reliable. Would these bikes have enough power at lower rpm. Until I feel confident enough to be in control such powerful bikes, I feel it would be safer to ride something slow.

[nzspokes]

Kawasaki Ninja's look great and I am sure they are reliable. Would these bikes have enough power at lower rpm. Until I feel confident enough to be in control such powerful bikes, I feel it would be safer to ride something slow.

Dont worry, they are slow.

[MrMarko]

Kawasaki Ninja's look great and I am sure they are reliable. Would these bikes have enough power at lower rpm. Until I feel confident enough to be in control such powerful bikes, I feel it would be safer to ride something slow.

It will only go as far as you twist your wrist :)

It's a bit more power but you'll like it alot more than having far too little, i would say go look at the one at red baron or i can put you in contact with my friend selling his, nothing wrong with it hes just focussing on his cars more.

[MrMarko]

Bike dealers normally wont do a learner bike in poor condition so that's a good sign they are not pushing it on a auction that's unrelated to their shop.
Also the 2 cylinder lower rev bike is likely to have suffered less boy racer abuse than the old inline 4s.
I can remember the days when 250 4s first became cheap enough for young guys to own them second hand and they got thrashed every ride. It surprises me any made it past 15year old.

They held up bloodey well frankly i used to absolutely wring the neck of my zxr 250's, infact if you didnt they would clog up and run like crap, it probably hit 19,000rpm over 100 times per day and lasted 3 years on one... eventually did the big end around taupo because i was dragging the stator casing on the track around the last corner onto the full back straight so it oil starved.

Had a gpx 250 (same motor as zzr) really good for a learner frankly nice linear power no suprises, and thats from a new rider mindset, the zzr has always been one of my picks as a great learner/ commuter bike, if budget allows though my advice is just buy a honda hornet 250 and never look back, fantastic bike to last the time to full, rides like a big bike.

[MrMarko]

Here is a link to my mate Nathan's bike, its only got 23,000km on it :)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1152211399.htm

[eldog]

Have a look at what the service requirements are and how often. Check what sort of km you plan on doing. The dealer will know how much for each service so you can get an idea.

you will find you will travel more ks than you think as it will be fun and you will get the riding bug:scooter:

keep an eye on tyre pressure.

your thoughts/preferences on bikes will change as you develop as a rider.

do you need a bike rack? Worth fitting if you need it.
buy gear that will last.

[jellywrestler]

Don't think anyone is having pipe issues. Id be claiming it went better with the original pipe but I damaged it when I dropped my bike. No gain in performance officer.

yeah no power gain and officer i wasn't speeding, the laws the law....

[MrMarko]

yeah no power gain and officer i wasn't speeding, the laws the law....

It is... but like i said, if you are polite and decent to a cop and have a rego and wof and all the thing has on it is an aftermarket muffler, they are highly unlikely to sting you for it... they are human beings ya know they arn't just out to screw you as much as possible.

[jellywrestler]

It is... but like i said, if you are polite and decent to a cop and have a rego and wof and all the thing has on it is an aftermarket muffler, they are highly unlikely to sting you for it... they are human beings ya know they arn't just out to screw you as much as possible.

yeah like the 4kmh limit when your speedo doesn't have this calibration accuracy from the factory.

[MrMarko]

yeah like the 4kmh limit when your speedo doesn't have this calibration accuracy from the factory.

Yeah its called a cop doing his job following the orders given...

Theres an rf400 parting on trademe with an oem muffler if you want to get picky and pedantic.

All you've done is come here and called me out over a lams technicality over a muffler. with unsubstantiated claims about me claiming to be a know it all.

Yet offered no decent alternatives to the OP...

Get a life.

[jellywrestler]

Yeah its called a cop doing his job following the orders given...

Theres an rf400 parting on trademe with an oem muffler if you want to get picky and pedantic.

All you've done is come here and called me out over a lams technicality over a muffler. with unsubstantiated claims about me claiming to be a know it all.

Yet offered no decent alternatives to the OP...

Get a life.
why do i have to offer an alternative, firstly, i know nothing about this person, you however feel qualified to advise on what sort of bike when he could be three foot tall, or weigh a hundred and seventy kilos or be the left side of a set of siamese twin, or indeed the right side, all of these people have different things they require in a bike.

you claimed it was lams, i disagreed, you agreed but said it didn't matter cause they'll overlook that.
what about the poor cunt who takes your advice and then finds a cop 'following the orders given' and gets in the shit
you must have two cocks, no-one could get that stupid flogging just one of them.

[MrMarko]

why do i have to offer an alternative, firstly, i know nothing about this person, you however feel qualified to advise on what sort of bike when he could be three foot tall, or weigh a hundred and seventy kilos or be the left side of a set of siamese twin, or indeed the right side, all of these people have different things they require in a bike.

you claimed it was lams, i disagreed, you agreed but said it didn't matter cause they'll overlook that.
what about the poor cunt who takes your advice and then finds a cop 'following the orders given' and gets in the shit
you must have two cocks, no-one could get that stupid flogging just one of them.

So basically. a guy asks on a forum, you cant give any advice due to not knowing the size of the rider and what he ate for lunch?

if he can fit a scorpio a zzr or similar will be no issue.

You've offered nothing to help the guy and pulled me up over a $50 muffler....

I'm so terribly sorry that while trying to suggest bikes i forgot lams bikes have to be bog standard to be 100% legal...

Thank you so much for your extremely valuable input.

[jellywrestler]

You've offered nothing to help the guy and pulled me up over a $50 muffler....



Thank you so much for your extremely valuable input.

i stopped him buying a modified bike that may have got him a fine, and made him aware of the fact that just because it left the factory as a lams bike doesn't mean it is now....

fact, your info was flawed,
fact, I pulled you up on it and now you're a cry baby.

[MrMarko]

i stopped him buying a modified bike that may have got him a fine, and made him aware of the fact that just because it left the factory as a lams bike doesn't mean it is now....

fact, your info was flawed,
fact, I pulled you up on it and now you're a cry baby.

Fact, refer last post...

Or are you angling for a blowy too?

[MrMarko]

not with an aftermarket pipe on it, you claim to know a lot but really leave yourself wide open....

^^^ maybe if you had simply mentioned the muffler without the insult i wouldn't give the reaction you got <_<

[jellywrestler]

Get a life.
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[ellipsis]

...was a cool thing to just have a motorcycle once upon a time...an SS90 Honda, circa 70, has been involved in a thread here recently...they were a bulletproof cruiser that could take you over the main divide to places so far west that the sandflies were a half inch long, and they got you back...relevant?...who fucking cares...get a fast scooter...

[oldiebutagoody]

To the OP,

I have sent you a PM with details of one you can check out.

[apsolar]

To the OP,

I have sent you a PM with details of one you can check out.

Thank you. I can't reply yet as per the forum rules but I tried using a quick reply. I will follow up on your message.

[Supermac Jr]

Kawasaki Ninja's look great and I am sure they are reliable. Would these bikes have enough power at lower rpm. Until I feel confident enough to be in control such powerful bikes, I feel it would be safer to ride something slow.

I started on one. Great learner bike with more than enough power (*delivered in a very linear/predictable way) . I had it for 4years and +50,000k. I saw it on the motorway the other day - still love it!