Yellow Schmellow

[trufflebutter]

Is it generally acceptable (when you’re out riding) to pass on yellow lines where you perceive it to be safe to do so?

The reason for the question is that I have seen it done so many times over the years.

Personally I don’t cross the yellow lines in an effort to decrease my arrival times by three seconds. Generally, there always seems to be a place to pass when the lines run out and let’s face it, a passing manoeuvre on a bike does only takes three seconds or so. I guess it’s more a conscience question more than anything.

[Banditbandit]

Is it generally acceptable (when you’re out riding) to pass on yellow lines where you perceive it to be safe to do so?

The reason for the question is that I have seen it done so many times over the years.

Personally I don’t cross the yellow lines in an effort to decrease my arrival times by three seconds. Generally, there always seems to be a place to pass when the lines run out and let’s face it, a passing manoeuvre on a bike does only takes three seconds or so. I guess it’s more a conscience question more than anything.


No, it's never "acceptable". It's ALWAYS illegal ...

For me - the only question is; Can I get passed the car and back on my side of the road before something comes around the corner and hits me ? If the answer is Yes - I go yellow lines or not.

The lines based around a car accelerating and getting back in and most larger bikes are much quicker to accelerate than cars ...

I'm not in a rush - I just like playing in the traffic ..

[Oakie]

It is unacceptable.

[Jin]

Generally not on double yellow lines unless there is a very clear path i wait until white or yellow+white.

[flashg]

It's unacceptable.
And even though it may only take a few seconds to pass, exceeding 100 kph is breaking the law.
Back in the day it was taught, get the manoeuvre over with asap and get back on your side of the road.
Now we are not allowed to speed, (we never were really) we could be on the wrong side of the road for a long long time trying to complete an overtaking manoeuvre while not exceeding 100 kph. How safe is that ?
I'm pretty sure I exceed the speed limit almost every time I overtake on the open road.

[Madness]

Apparently it's very unacceptable to do it on one wheel.

[george formby]

I ride by the rules unless nobody's looking. The sound of a one handed man clapping and all that. Can't do a decent wheelie for shit, either.

Habitually treating traffic as a series of chicanes is usually a temporary riding style.

[pritch]

Generally no. Having said that I probably have done it. Most times I've seen it done though is on group rides and it has been done in suicidally stupid places.
The recommendation (Ienatch et al) is that you don't even ride with people who cross the centre line, let alone yellow lines.

Problem is that yellow lines are appearing everywhere, even in places where they aren't necessary, but hey! we're paying these dudes and we've got all this paint...

[Akzle]

Generally not on double yellow lines unless there is a very clear path i wait until white or yellow+white.

there's no such thing as "double yellow lines" you fucking idiot.

lanes of traffic are "controlled" by ONE line painted on the drivers' side of the vehicle.

[Virago]

there's no such thing as "double yellow lines" you fucking idiot.

lanes of traffic are "controlled" by ONE line painted on the drivers' side of the vehicle.

Wrong. The line is painted on the road, not the vehicle.

[Akzle]

Wrong. The line is painted on the road, not the vehicle.

hah. you literalist cunt.
I demand an injunction! hitcher!

[Maha]

there's no such thing as "double yellow lines" you fucking idiot.

lanes of traffic are "controlled" by ONE line painted on the drivers' side of the vehicle.

I am sure even your closest alias must frown a tad and shake their head when they read the miscellaneous crap you believe to true and accurate. Two yellow lines together are known as Double Yellow Lines.

There is no 'Twin Bridges Road' but mention it to a biker and they know exactly what you're talking about....semantics.

[Gremlin]

Two yellow lines together are known as Double Yellow Lines.
Non-legally, sure, but in law, there is no double yellow line. There is one yellow line for each direction of traffic.

Legally, so long as you do not cross the yellow line, and pass on the right of the vehicle (ie, vehicle, you, yellow line) then you may do so. However, most roads don't have that width available, and if you've been on the right side of the vehicle, are you sure the left side of the lane is clear? ie, let's say there is a cyclist you didn't see, and the car moves right to give him space... you could find yourself nowhere to go.

Crossing yellow lines to overtake? Nope, a, what's the rush, b, hopefully it's been put there for a reason, limited visibility, dip in the road so you can't see oncoming etc. Yes, sometimes the placement does make you wonder, but I still wait and I wouldn't want to ride close to anyone that does think it's a good idea.

[george formby]

I am sure even your closest alias must frown a tad and shake their head when they read the miscellaneous crap you believe to true and accurate. Two yellow lines together are known as Double Yellow Lines.


No Maha, don't jump in the pool, it's got floaters!

[FJRider]

there's no such thing as "double yellow lines" you fucking idiot.

lanes of traffic are "controlled" by ONE line painted on the drivers' side of the vehicle.


BULLSHIT ... The yellow lines are painted on the fucking ROAD. Not on the drivers side of the vehicle.

Double yellow lines are common down here ... with no white lines between the yellow.

[mossy1200]

Is the bit between 2 yellow lines another lane for bikes. Obviously you need pre plan entry prior and remain until they finish to not cross a yellow line though.

[Maha]

Non-legally, sure, but in law, there is no double yellow line. There is one yellow line for each direction of traffic.

Legally, so long as you do not cross the yellow line, and pass on the right of the vehicle (ie, vehicle, you, yellow line) then you may do so. However, most roads don't have that width available, and if you've been on the right side of the vehicle, are you sure the left side of the lane is clear? ie, let's say there is a cyclist you didn't see, and the car moves right to give him space... you could find yourself nowhere to go.

Crossing yellow lines to overtake? Nope, a, what's the rush, b, hopefully it's been put there for a reason, limited visibility, dip in the road so you can't see oncoming etc. Yes, sometimes the placement does make you wonder, but I still wait and I wouldn't want to ride close to anyone that does think it's a good idea.

We are talking about someone who rarely talks about things with legality in mind.... even you agree that colloquially they are known as double yellows lines, there are two of them together at times..:confused: two=double.

[nzspokes]

It is unacceptable.

Agree, work on the idea that its there for a reason.

[ellipsis]

...I find them as slippery as the white ones...

[OddDuck]

Agree, work on the idea that its there for a reason.

+1, got some quite subtle ones where I live... hidden bits of road, very easy to lose track of an oncoming car for just long enough to commit to the overtake.

[WristTwister]

Is it generally acceptable (when you’re out riding) to pass on yellow lines where you perceive it to be safe to do so?

The reason for the question is that I have seen it done so many times over the years.

Personally I don’t cross the yellow lines in an effort to decrease my arrival times by three seconds. Generally, there always seems to be a place to pass when the lines run out and let’s face it, a passing manoeuvre on a bike does only takes three seconds or so. I guess it’s more a conscience question more than anything.


People who do it probably know they're breaking the law, but don't care :stoogie: The vehicle you're passing wouldn't be expecting you to come past them, which could be dangerous. There are usually good reasons for why the road has yellow lines anyway.

Some statisticians said if you overtake you might save a few minutes per hour of travelling - so it's not worth the risk crossing a yellow line.

[Banditbandit]

Generally not on double yellow lines unless there is a very clear path i wait until white or yellow+white.

Wot he says - there is no legal meaning to double yellow lines at all.



there's no such thing as "double yellow lines" you fucking idiot.

lanes of traffic are "controlled" by ONE line painted on the drivers' side of the centre




I ride by the rules unless nobody's looking. The sound of a one handed man clapping and all that. Can't do a decent wheelie for shit, either.

Habitually treating traffic as a series of chicanes is usually a temporary riding style.

But fuck it's fun - and I've been doing it for more than 40 years ... and I intend to enjoy whatever is left of my life ...

[Banditbandit]

People who do it probably know they're breaking the law, but don't care :stoogie: The vehicle you're passing wouldn't be expecting you to come past them, which could be dangerous.

Yeah - they are not expecting it - if you bang it downtwo gears and open the throttle you're passed them before they even know .. they don't have time to react badly ..




There are usually good reasons for why the road has yellow lines anyway.

For cars and idiots ..


Some statisticians said if you overtake you might save a few minutes per hour of travelling - so it's not worth the risk crossing a yellow line.

Who said anything about saving time? It's all about playing on the road ..

[Jin]

Fuckwits responding to this thread saying its not acceptable because its illegal should probably just sell their bikes and get scooters. OP wasnt asking if its illegal.

[trufflebutter]

Legal reasons and braking the law comments was not the intention surrounding the original question. Just a general question.

Is it generally acceptable (when you’re out riding) to pass on yellow lines where you perceive it to be safe to do so?

[george formby]

But fuck it's fun - and I've been doing it for more than 40 years ... and I intend to enjoy whatever is left of my life ...



Fairy snuff. Admittedly I do make exceptions for campervan's, Yaris's with hats in the back and any other vehicle which poses a bigger threat in front of rather than behind me. And, yes, braaaaaaaaaaaap is always fun!

[pritch]

I have a thing about yellow lines, when you've got a team set up to paint them you have to keep the guys busy so we are forever getting new yellow lines. Some of these areas of yellow might be a bit marginal for overtaking in a car but are totally safe for a bike. How do we know which ones are which on a new piece of road? We don't.

For me the ultimate irony was when they painted a yellow line on the road outside my gate. The last accident on this piece of road was back about 1961 when I was driving a friends V8 and he was riding a borrowed bike; we were racing. Problem was we hadn't discussed the course and I ran him off the road, through a hedge and into the side of a house. This little mishap certainly never came to the attention of the authorities, so why there is a yellow line there now is anybody's guess. Other than that they are just giving the guys something to keep them busy.

Then there's the 80kph limit on stretches of open road...

[george formby]

Then there's the 80kph limit on stretches of open road...


Ahh, that would be my commute.

I just had a thought, I will recover shortly. My bike is yellow, so if I were to be caught crossing a yellow line, or a pair of such, could I use merging as an excuse?

[roogazza]

They must have got a 'job lot'on yellow paint cos they're everywhere now and in some cases really stuupid places.
before I moved two years ago,my regular haunt was the Rimutakas for 50 yrs. I was doin my usual Sunday brisk run real early and on the home run was #555'd by some concerned citizens in a car.Pfffft.
A road block was set up close to Upper Hutt to nab me.(crossed some yellow line or something?).
Lot of yapping to and fro while I had a cigar under a tree. Then a nice Policeman came over and said , you know we don't do anything about these ???? and I was sent on my way.Pissed me off tho ! :confused:

[old slider]

Fairy snuff. Admittedly I do make exceptions for campervan's, Yaris's with hats in the back and any other vehicle which poses a bigger threat in front of rather than behind me. And, yes, braaaaaaaaaaaap is always fun!



lol, I think I will trade the wifes Yaris, but probably be easier to trade the wife.

While talking about the center lines, I see some bikers ride close to the center line and others ride closer to the road edge, I presume that gap in the middle usually in between most 4 wheeled vehicles is where most oil etc is dropped from leaky engines, diffs, gearboxes etc.

[Akzle]

colloquially they are known as double yellows lines, there are two of them together at times..:confused: two=double.

which is fucking irrelevant as only one of them applies to your lane. douche.

[Akzle]

Is it generally acceptable (when you’re out riding) to pass on yellow lines where you perceive it to be safe to do so?

generally acceptable to, or by, whom?

i do whatever the fuck i want, whenever the fuck i want. painted lines are not lawful instruction.

[MrMarko]

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/passing/

[Jin]

which is fucking irrelevant as only one of them applies to your lane. douche.
The only thing that's irrelevant here is your opinion. This discussion is for those who ride motorcycles. So fuck off.

[george formby]

:corn: ......................

Love these lyrics.

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[MrMarko]

Love these lyrics.




http://youtu.be/IlxozJh2JNo?t=110

[Swoop]

Legal reasons and braking the law comments was not the intention surrounding the original question. Just a general question.
Once upon a time...
They were placed in an area for good reasons. As Roogazza says (which I was going to say myself until he eloquently stated the simple fact) there has been an outbreak of the "Yellow Line Monster" who has painted so many lines in utter bollocks places, that they need to be now treated like Hi-Viz vests (every cunt has one) so the danger blends into the background.
Yellow lines are there for tin-top wheel-turners, however the fuckers like to get their panties twisted when a two-wheeled velocopede passes them effortlessly*.


They must have got a 'job lot'on yellow paint cos they're everywhere now and in some cases really stuupid places.
+1.



* Might not apply to harley fergusson operators.

[Madness]

https://youtu.be/7gIjEdCootY

[neels]

I have been known to cross yellow lines, passing those who crawl through the bendy bits and the gas it on the straights, or where they've been put on slightly curvy roads where you can see for the next 2km. Not a regular thing, but when required just treat like any other passing manouvre and apply suitable quantities of judgement

[trufflebutter]

I have been known to cross yellow lines, passing those who crawl through the bendy bits and the gas it on the straights, or where they've been put on slightly curvy roads where you can see for the next 2km. Not a regular thing, but when required just treat like any other passing manouvre and apply suitable quantities of judgement

Seems acceptable and intelligent enough. The last sentence especially shows a mature mind that understands the original question.

[WristTwister]

generally acceptable to, or by, whom?



Exactly, "acceptable" to whom? The driver in front won't like it, as well as anyone coming the other way. As for the POPO, ticket and demerits achievement unlocked. :banana:

I think it's worth noting that more car drivers are getting dash cams and if they feel you passed dangerously or they have a chip on their shoulder, they may *555 and report you. :tugger:

If I'm group riding with a few mates, we'd all need to agree on how aggressively we'd be riding - checking with others if they are comfortable passing on yellow wouldn't be a bad idea. If you're riding in a larger group with various experience levels, I wouldn't advise it because some riders may make a bad judgement call and over take into on coming traffic. :crazy:

If you're riding solo, it's your risk, if it's acceptable to you then do it (not an endorsement).

This isn't acceptable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE3jvuAE62I

[buggerit]

A guidance tool for unfamiliar roads and a great tool for keeping cars out of your way on roads you do know:devil2:

[rastuscat]

there's no such thing as "double yellow lines" you fucking idiot.

lanes of traffic are "controlled" by ONE line painted on the drivers' side of the vehicle.

Hey Azkill. Bad news. You're right.

Unwell?

[Akzle]

Hey Azkill. Bad news. You're right.


well "hell-loo" and/or "duh"

[IkieBikie]

Hey Azkill. Bad news. You're right.

Unwell?

No hes not - as mentioned before the one line is not painted on the vehicle, its painted on the road

[rastuscat]

The expression double-yellow-line is often misused.

What appears also to be misunderstood is that you can overtake into the fast lane of an opposing passing lane. Provided thete is no yellow line on your side if the centre line. As long as you have 100 metres clear visibility throughout. And remember that 100 metres disappears really quickly at a closing speed over 200 kmh.

[IkieBikie]

Thanks for the red rep akzle.

I thought if I came back to the site after eight months you would be gone.

shame your still here and still a dick

[Akzle]

Thanks for the red rep akzle.

I thought if I came back to the site after eight months you would be gone.

shame your still here and still a dick

try again. longer this time.

maybe you should come give skidmark a hug, you could menstruate off into the sunset together.

(thats a metaphor)

[IkieBikie]

maybe you should come give skidmark a hug

Not a problem = any day any time over you.

Are you less than 5.2 foot tall by the way???

[Berries]

The expression double-yellow-line is often misused.

What appears also to be misunderstood is that you can overtake into the fast lane of an opposing passing lane. Provided thete is no yellow line on your side if the centre line. As long as you have 100 metres clear visibility throughout.
You can start kissing goodbye to those perfectly safe overtaking opportunities. They are all being removed down here now, funnily enough through the introduction of double yellow lines. Well, you could argue that it is through the installation of a solid yellow line on your side of the centreline which happens to be a solid yellow line for the other direction leaving you with .......... a double yellow line.

[MarkH]

Legal reasons and braking the law comments was not the intention surrounding the original question. Just a general question.

Is it generally acceptable (when you’re out riding) to pass on yellow lines where you perceive it to be safe to do so?

If you perceive correctly then sure, why not pass where it is safe? As long as you don't get caught of course!


This isn't acceptable:

I very much agree, that shit ain't in the least bit safe. Better to wait until there isn't a grave risk to your life before overtaking!


What appears also to be misunderstood is that you can overtake into the fast lane of an opposing passing lane. Provided thete is no yellow line on your side if the centre line. As long as you have 100 metres clear visibility throughout. And remember that 100 metres disappears really quickly at a closing speed over 200 kmh.

I have to agree with this, from what I can make out this is very commonly misunderstood. I'm sure many drivers think I'm riding illegally when I pass safely on sections of road with a dashed white line on the left of centre and solid yellow line on the right of centre, meaning opposing traffic are not allowed to cross the centre line but traffic in my direction are allowed (if safe).


I have been known to cross yellow lines, passing those who crawl through the bendy bits and the gas it on the straights, or where they've been put on slightly curvy roads where you can see for the next 2km. Not a regular thing, but when required just treat like any other passing manouvre and apply suitable quantities of judgement

Using your own judgement to ensure what you do is safe? But that's illegal!!!!!!!



When I'm riding I try to do what I need to so that I can arrive at my destination alive and in one piece. I often ride within the law, but sometimes I have strayed, I try to feel bad after breaking the law but usually fail at that.

I'm aware that it is illegal to cross the centreline when there is a solid yellow line on your side of it - some say that crossing the line is a big no-no because it is illegal, often these same people exceed the speed limit often enough despite that also being illegal.

I view crossing the solid yellow line in a similar way to exceeding the speed limit - it is illegal and I don't want to get caught doing it, if I'm in no hurry I'll often stick to the law and not do it, sometimes I'll say "FUCK IT" and ignore the law to get passed an annoying slow vehicle - by exceeding the speed limit and/or crossing the solid yellow line, providing that I am confident that I can do it safely. Usually I stick to only doing this where there are no other vehicles in sight that may be police.

Sometimes the car in front will notice me behind him/her and move to the left so that I can pass without needing to cross the centre line, always a good idea to give an appreciative wave to someone being considerate like that. I've got by long truck & trailer units like that, something that those funny vehicles with the four wheels can't do generally. I've changed to all LED lights (both headlights, 2 spotlights, 2 DRLs, 2 marker lights) and I've been finding that more car drivers are aware of me coming up behind them, it has gotten more common to have someone move to the left to make it easy for me to get by them.

[bogan]

Apparently it's very unacceptable to do it on one wheel.

Fucking impressive if it's the front one though...

BB had it right, acceptable if you can do so safely. Mind you, given the gesturing I think there's an ambo driver who thinks differently for the manawatu gorge; arguably one of the 'safest' vehicles to pass given their proximity for patch ups if something went wrong :innocent:

[Akzle]

, I try to feel bad after breaking the law but usually fail at that.

I'm aware that it is illegal to cross the centreline when there is a solid yellow line on your side of it - .

actually. any solid line. white or yellow.

[Maha]

If you perceive correctly then sure, why not pass where it is safe? As long as you don't get caught of course!




A bike pulled out over 'dual yellow' lines to pass a car towing a caravan, under normal circumstances you can get around such an obstacle in 3-4 seconds? Rider had re-calculate that time quicker than he could say ''fuck what was I thinking'' when he saw us about to happen upon his immediate area.

Did he perceive it safe to pass? he must have... but he was wrong.

[nzspokes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNOZA3T5afo

[bogan]

A bike pulled out over 'dual yellow' lines to pass a car towing a caravan, under normal circumstances you can get around such an obstacle in 3-4 seconds? Rider had re-calculate that time quicker than he could say ''fuck what was I thinking'' when he saw us about to happen upon his immediate area.

Did he perceive it safe to pass? he must have... but he was wrong.

That'd never happen on dotted white though, right :facepalm:

[george formby]

[url]https://www.youtudevid

Summit not mentioned in the vid but learned the scary way, is to always consider what the vehicle in front of the bus / lorry / queue may do next. Like hang a right just as you commit to your over take. Dirty knickers moment guaranteed. This has happened to me on normal roads and very scarily on overtaking lanes. I don't overtake like this close to junctions etc. Just in case...... Great way to practise controlled braking, though.

Oh, wait, that's what the solid white line and extra long caution lines are for innit?

[Maha]

That'd never happen on dotted white though, right :facepalm:

Obviously it could happen in any passing situation, but the thread topic is not about passing in any situation or dotted white lines ;)

''pass on yellow lines'' be they dual/two of or double...call them what you will.

[pzkpfw]

The expression double-yellow-line is often misused.

What appears also to be misunderstood is that you can overtake into the fast lane of an opposing passing lane. Provided thete is no yellow line on your side if the centre line. As long as you have 100 metres clear visibility throughout. And remember that 100 metres disappears really quickly at a closing speed over 200 kmh.

That's one of the most common "new" yellows around here; where the single lane has had a yellow line added to prevent use of the opposing passing lane.

(And on the bike, that's one yellow I may or may not have occasionally ignored - after making sure there's no oncoming traffic; if I did so).

[bogan]

Side note, passing in urban/50kmhr areas, also mixed acceptance?


''pass on yellow lines'' be they dual/two of or double...call them what you will.

Slippery.

[eldog]

We I see double yellow lines, usually means that the area/road conditions are bad for both directions, so extra care should be taken as the usual road trash will often appear overtaking just to make travelling that much more of the in ya face experience.

[MarkH]

A bike pulled out over 'dual yellow' lines to pass a car towing a caravan, under normal circumstances you can get around such an obstacle in 3-4 seconds? Rider had re-calculate that time quicker than he could say ''fuck what was I thinking'' when he saw us about to happen upon his immediate area.

Did he perceive it safe to pass? he must have... but he was wrong.

What I didn't say because it is so obvious: . . . and if you don't perceive correctly then no, it isn't OK.

What you need to consider before crossing the lines painted to let you know you shouldn't cross them is whether your judgement is better than the person that decided the solid line should be there. Can you pull out and get passed that car and back into your lane safely even if a car suddenly appears from around that corner up ahead? Do you know there is no dip in the road ahead?

If you are riding on an unfamiliar road then maybe you should err on the side of caution . . . just sayin'.

[Berries]

What you need to consider before crossing the lines painted to let you know you shouldn't cross them is whether your judgement is better than the person that decided the solid line should be there.
That used to be the case but now TPTB are erring so far on the side of caution that they are removing what are 'safe' overtaking opportunities if you have your wits about you, ie keeping back and being able to see a clear road as soon as it comes in to view rather than being stuck up the chuff of the vehicle in front and then thinking about an overtake when you have missed the chance. Many km of new yellow lines have been painted down here in the last 12 months, not only blanket wide on passing lanes but also filling in some of the gaps. Kind of like stop signs, they used to mean something when they were put in according to the correct procedures but now they are chucked up left, right and centre to appease anyone who is vocal enough. This can only lead to a lack of compliance, as evidenced in this thread, and if enough of it occurs you know that rigid enforcement will come next.

Personally I think motorbike riders should be exempt from dodgy stop signs when we can see the way is clear due to our height above the road and also be exempt from passing over solid yellow lines because we can do it so quickly - if we are exempt from the open road speed limit. Oddly enough my MP never replies to those letters.

[george formby]

That used to be the case but now TPTB are erring so far on the side of caution that they are removing what are 'safe' overtaking opportunities if you have your wits about you, ie keeping back and being able to see a clear road as soon as it comes in to view rather than being stuck up the chuff of the vehicle in front and then thinking about an overtake when you have missed the chance. Many km of new yellow lines have been painted down here in the last 12 months, not only blanket wide on passing lanes but also filling in some of the gaps. Kind of like stop signs, they used to mean something when they were put in according to the correct procedures but now they are chucked up left, right and centre to appease anyone who is vocal enough. This can only lead to a lack of compliance, as evidenced in this thread, and if enough of it occurs you know that rigid enforcement will come next.

Personally I think motorbike riders should be exempt from dodgy stop signs when we can see the way is clear due to our height above the road and also be exempt from passing over solid yellow lines because we can do it so quickly - if we are exempt from the open road speed limit. Oddly enough my MP never replies to those letters.

Yeah, I agree. Lowering speed limits on perfectly good, if twisty, roads and slapping yellow paint around the place does not change driving habits and potentially, could make them worse if the message is disregarded due to familiarity.

I consider road signs and the lines on the road to be an indicator of conditions and hazards, all there for a good reason. Bloody clever, too, if you know how to use them. Chucking paint around to make sections of road appear more hazardous than necessary will probably go the way of hi viz (somebody had to bring it up), unseen or ignored.

[Akzle]

Personally I think motorbike riders should be exempt from dodgy stop signs when we can see the way is clear due to our height above the road and also be exempt from passing over solid yellow lines because we can do it so quickly - if we are exempt from the open road speed limit. Oddly enough my MP never replies to those letters.

vote akzle

[Banditbandit]

Oddly enough my MP never replies to those letters.



Do you expect MPs to be literate?

[Swoop]

The expression double-yellow-line is often misused.
I personally believe it's a carry over from the UK, where it is a common expression.


I'm recently back from there and noticed they have a single yellow line along the kerb. There is also the double yellow along the kerb too, which simply means "no parking".
When asking a local "why does the single yellow line exist then?" (because everyone parks on THAT line) the question couldn't be answered.

[neels]

When asking a local "why does the single yellow line exist then?" (because everyone parks on THAT line) the question couldn't be answered.
So you can see where the edge of the road is in the fog?

[Berries]

Do you expect MPs to be literate?
To be honest I would not waste the stamp.



I personally believe it's a carry over from the UK, where it is a common expression.

I'm recently back from there and noticed they have a single yellow line along the kerb. There is also the double yellow along the kerb too, which simply means "no parking".
When asking a local "why does the single yellow line exist then?" (because everyone parks on THAT line) the question couldn't be answered.
Double yellow = no parking at any time
Single yellow = no parking at certain times, used to be standardised as between 8am and 6pm but now they put signs up with the hours on.

[Racing Dave]

To be honest I would not waste the stamp.

Lucky for you, then, that letters sent to MPs at Parliament do not require a stamp.

[Swoop]

Double yellow = no parking at any time
Single yellow = no parking at certain times, used to be standardised as between 8am and 6pm but now they put signs up with the hours on.

Didn't see any signs, so was a bit perplexed over it, as were the locals!