Log in

View Full Version : First bike.... Yay or Nay?? Advice needed!



Mad_Honda
30th October 2016, 19:04
Hey guys Jayden here, i'm brand spanker to this forum so go gentle would ya! haha

But anyways onto the topic ... I'm looking at buying my first bike (250-400cc LAMS APPV)... I'm not a total noobie to bikes, as i have ridden dirt the odd time in the past before dad sold my xr200(rip)

To keep a story short, i've been eyeing up this 1989 CBR250R, with slight damage. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1189682640)

I'm mainly a Honda fan. but i like Kawazaki's, Yammies and i've found the Hyosungs to be rather appealing too...

Is there anything to be concerned about these bikes? What should i be looking for ? i'm averagely mechanically inclined etc..

I'm the typical young guy, the bikes gotta sound and look good! (fell in love with this sound...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KsFLuqpib4&t=12s)

I'll stop rambling now, any advice will be greatly appreicated !! Just trying to avoid buying a lemon as a first bike. Cheers Jayden.

onearmedbandit
30th October 2016, 20:29
Loved the hot little 250's we had as kids in the 90's, damn they were fun. That's all I have to say, someone with first hand experience will be along soon enough. But if the bike stacks up, buy it and enjoy yourself.

Mad_Honda
30th October 2016, 20:36
Loved the hot little 250's we had as kids in the 90's, damn they were fun. That's all I have to say, someone with first hand experience will be along soon enough. But if the bike stacks up, buy it and enjoy yourself.

Seems cheap enough! Would you expect to pay that amount for an older bike with decent km's on it?? Or do you reckon its a lemon?

mossy1200
30th October 2016, 21:46
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1188470665.htm
Good option offer 2k and spend 500 on transporting it to you.


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1188470665.htm
Looks like a good older 4cylinder option also

Im not sure I like the way the cbr is missing the rt hand bar weight. Idd be having a good look at it before buying. How hard it went down on the rt side at some stage would be nice to know and you still have to find a left fairing etc aswell.

mossy1200
30th October 2016, 21:49
https://www.facebook.com/groups/141941229286165/forsaleposts/?story_id=571957536284530&__xt__=27.%7B%22viewer_id%22%3A100000992593561%2C% 22target_id%22%3A1259894930697993%2C%22target_type %22%3A0%2C%22primary_position%22%3A2%2C%22search_q uery%22%3A%22%22%2C%22search_sid%22%3A%22%22%2C%22 session_id%22%3A0%2C%22typeahead_sid%22%3A%22%22%2 C%22ranking_signature%22%3A4140236997467832320%2C% 22commerce_channel%22%3A102%2C%22commerce_type%22% 3A2%2C%22ectr%22%3A0%2C%22value%22%3A0.18748760223 389%7D

Not sure if that link will work but its a facebook site MOTORBIKES FOR SALE NZ

onearmedbandit
30th October 2016, 21:51
Seems cheap enough! Would you expect to pay that amount for an older bike with decent km's on it?? Or do you reckon its a lemon?

IMO I think it's priced realistically if it checks out mechanically. Very low km's for its age though, kind of dubious. Hard to tell without laying eyes on it.

Mad_Honda
30th October 2016, 22:19
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1188470665.htm
Good option offer 2k and spend 500 on transporting it to you.


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1188470665.htm
Looks like a good older 4cylinder option also

Im not sure I like the way the cbr is missing the rt hand bar weight. Idd be having a good look at it before buying. How hard it went down on the rt side at some stage would be nice to know and you still have to find a left fairing etc aswell.

Its obviously been in a side over like you said and by the horizontal scuffs. But in all honesty it doesn't bother me a hell of lot seeing as it'll be just a learner bike anyways... In regards to that right side weight, would that affect the balance of the bike at all? If she checks out to be mechanically sound I'll definitely buy it. But i kinda don't like the statement "as is where is" they put on there :/

Edit: cheers for the reco bike link! Those ninjas are noooice, but that colour is a bit too ugly for my liking tbh 😂

Mad_Honda
30th October 2016, 22:26
IMO I think it's priced realistically if it checks out mechanically. Very low km's for its age though, kind of dubious. Hard to tell without laying eyes on it.

Will definitely give it a good eye over, problem is the auctions being run through an agency outfit. So you can't just ring up and go in whenever, you have to book an appointment ugh lol

WristTwister
30th October 2016, 22:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG6t6_S2fqk

Mad_Honda
30th October 2016, 23:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG6t6_S2fqk

Bloody great video mate! Thank you very much! He seems like a hard case motovlogger! lol reminds me a bit like ol BakerXDerek 👍

WristTwister
31st October 2016, 00:15
Bloody great video mate! Thank you very much! He seems like a hard case motovlogger! lol reminds me a bit like ol BakerXDerek 👍

Yeah Dodge does some helpful motovlogs.

CHEAH!

Mad_Honda
31st October 2016, 01:02
Yeah Dodge does some helpful motovlogs.

CHEAH!

Ayyyy that's it😉👌👌

Tazz
31st October 2016, 02:06
That's no show pony and you always take a risk with older bikes, but go the CBR. Fun as fark. You'll more than likely get back what you pay for it when you're finished too unlike a lot of other learner options.

I loved mine and learned many more good than bad habits from it.

Pros: Light enough to throw around, decent brakes, enough power and range to load up for some L plate touring, plenty of new and second hand parts about.

Cons: Aesthetic parts (like plastics) are spendy, no good fer yer missus to hoon on with you (even if she has a tiny ass), some complain the seating position aggravates their arthritis, but considering the range is only about 2-3 hours worth of gas it's not that bad.

onearmedbandit
31st October 2016, 07:37
. In regards to that right side weight, would that affect the balance of the bike at all?

Heck I've only got one bar on my bike and it doesn't affect balance. But then again I'm kind of speshal.

Mad_Honda
31st October 2016, 09:29
That's no show pony and you always take a risk with older bikes, but go the CBR. Fun as fark. You'll more than likely get back what you pay for it when you're finished too unlike a lot of other learner options.

I loved mine and learned many more good than bad habits from it.

Pros: Light enough to throw around, decent brakes, enough power and range to load up for some L plate touring, plenty of new and second hand parts about.

Cons: Aesthetic parts (like plastics) are spendy, no good fer yer missus to hoon on with you (even if she has a tiny ass), some complain the seating position aggravates their arthritis, but considering the range is only about 2-3 hours worth of gas it's not that bad.

Well its a good thing i'm single atm then ;) haha Cheers for the reply! Its good to hear from somebody who's ridden one first experience!

In regards to selling after i'm done with it, like you said, i'd rather buy a cheaper bike for now when i'm learning instead of forking out a butt tonne of money buying a newer bike to then get rid of it half of what i'd paid for it!

STEPHASAUR
31st October 2016, 12:26
DON'T DO IT
IT'S A TRAP
IT'LL MAKE YOU REGRET EVERYTHING

-1988 cbr250r owner

Mad_Honda
31st October 2016, 13:05
DON'T DO IT
IT'S A TRAP
IT'LL MAKE YOU REGRET EVERYTHING

-1988 cbr250r owner
Explanation please? 😂

STEPHASAUR
31st October 2016, 13:10
Explanation please? 😂

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/178368-Bike-dropping-cylinders

she was awesome till this happened
many failed attempts later and she still refuses to behave

please PLEASE make sure you bring someone who knows about these bikes with you. absolutely the best thing on two wheels IF they run
...IF

Mad_Honda
31st October 2016, 13:22
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/178368-Bike-dropping-cylinders

she was awesome till this happened
many failed attempts later and she still refuses to behave

please PLEASE make sure you bring someone who knows about these bikes with you. absolutely the best thing on two wheels IF they run
...IF

Oh chit! Sounds like you've been through a nightmare with that thang! Hopefully she's a minter, it states that it runs good and doesn't smoke upon start up.. But i wouldn't take their word for it

STEPHASAUR
31st October 2016, 13:28
Yah, was definitely the result of decades of abuse.. though the one you're looking at does look to be in much better nick than mine. but please make sure you take someone who knows about the old 4cyls along
Future you will thank ya for it xD

Mad_Honda
1st November 2016, 13:38
Going up to Christchurch in the weekend to view the CBR250R ... Is there anything i should pay close attention to these bikes? any common problems?

EJK
1st November 2016, 13:42
Yeah, make sure the bike has some gas. Or else it won't start!

jobasa
4th November 2016, 18:13
did you end up getting it?

WristTwister
4th November 2016, 18:39
did you end up getting it?

Many new riders log in to Kiwi Biker just to get advice on purchasing a first bike and never sign in again.

You'll find that most of them do buy the bike they wanted anyway, they only ask on the forums because they want some affirmation*.



*confirmation or ratification of the truth or validity of a prior judgment, decision, etc.

YellowDog
4th November 2016, 18:52
Many new riders log in to Kiwi Biker just to get advice on purchasing a first bike and never sign in again.

You'll find that most of them do buy the bike they wanted anyway, they only ask on the forums because they want some affirmation*.



*confirmation or ratification of the truth or validity of a prior judgment, decision, etc.

Feeling used aye :buggerd:

Akzle
4th November 2016, 19:07
Many new riders log in to Kiwi Biker just to get advice on purchasing a first bike and never sign in again.

which is why it's perfectly acceptable to troll, bowl and arsehole them...

Hemi Makutu
4th November 2016, 19:29
Wonder if that thing's had its tits revved off - 'til the valves bent?

He might want to do a comp check - before he hands over the cash..

SNF
11th November 2016, 07:27
My sister had a MC22. It was an awesome bike with heaps of power (for a 45 hp lams bike). It looked tidy although it had ben dropped a few times in its life. Had well into 90,000 kms but ran as good if not better than my FZR. Never smoked sounded and ran brilliant. Someone had put on an ebay exhaust. And didn't upjet the carbs. Was a bit of fun trying to get it going cold. Once warm it was a rocket. Was a good $2500 bike. All we did in a year was change brakes and replace a chain and an oil change.

My bike was a different story. I Ran it out of gas. Cleaned carbs and it ran like crap for a while until I got the carbs synced. It was dropped it came with rather cracked fairings not on the bike. Fixed it up since new paint etc. I had to replace the swingarm bearing. My bike was cheap $1200, I knew it needed some wrench time didn't bother me. Then again, Ive ridden 40,000 kms on my bike, been through tyres, had carbs off 4 times, done oil and filters, valve clearance check (I didn't do that, my good friends did thank you guys!).

Easy to say mines a heap. But I have ridden 40,000 kms, my bike is approaching 70,000 ks. I'd expect to do all this stuff with the CBR. They are good fun bikes. Need their share of maintenance which is expensive unless you dont mind diy or have good mates.