Bimota YB7

[idleidolidyll]

The word classic is used far too often. The Bimota YB7 however, truly deserves the label. Like all Bimotas; it was built to be the best in its class in terms of quality and specifications.

Listed as a 1992 model, this is one of the very last of only 321 bikes known to have been built. There are no signs of damage anywhere and the paint is in superb condition. Some storage and sea freight corrosion on the alloy and steel components is present but can be polished out with a little effort making for an almost new look.

The Bimota YB7 uses Yamahas FZR400 motor and with some mods by Bimota, made 68HP on their dyno at 13,000rpm. Factor in the sub 160kg dry weight, top quality components and you have a fast little bike that handles superbly and stops on a dime. Top speed is an outstanding 217kph but that power and weight (possibly 175kg fueled up wet), suggest that this should be able to be registered as a LAMS bike. This then has to be the best used LAMS option available in NZ!

The following article and specs written when the bike was new by Alan Cathcart, tell you the story (scroll down past the specs). http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/bimota/bimota_yb7%2088
.htm

On the international market; these little classics can fetch 30% more than the asking price: http://www.raidermoto.com/1988-bimota-yb7/

We would recommend a filter and oil change as we don’t know how long the bike has been sitting.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1194719497

Note: We have about a dozen bikes for sale and are working through themall one at a time getting them set up for use. Prices listed are as is butnegotiable.
Once we have completed a bike; it will be repriced based on its cost tous and its market value. All bikes were bought as running bikes with nosignificant issues.
Compliance costs are about $190 plus registration. We can do this foryou if you want to use the bike on the road. Obviously there’s no need if youbuy one as a track day bike.
Contact Mike on 021 483487 for more info

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[mossy1200]

I think the comment about lams shouldn't be in your advert.
Its not on the LAMS list and never will be. Its got a power to weight ratio way to high and stating it should be is attracting buyers that cant ride it.

[Akzle]

I think the comment about lams shouldn't be in your advert.
Its not on the LAMS list and never will be. Its got a power to weight ratio way to high and stating it should be is attracting buyers that cant ride it.

nah it's cool. ask ejk. "ads" dont actually have to relate to the product.

[idleidolidyll]

I think the comment about lams shouldn't be in your advert.
Its not on the LAMS list and never will be. Its got a power to weight ratio way to high and stating it should be is attracting buyers that cant ride it.

Of course its not on the list: only 321 were ever made and that was 25 years ago so nobody has ever asked the question.
It is rated at less power and about the same weight as Yamahas MT07.
As noted, if anyone wants us to check with our inspector; we will ask him if it meets LAMS requirements.

[nzspokes]

Of course its not on the list: only 321 were ever made and that was 25 years ago so nobody has ever asked the question.
It is rated at less power and about the same weight as Yamahas MT07.
As noted, if anyone wants us to check with our inspector; we will ask him if it meets LAMS requirements.

From memory the Lams MT07 has 50hp.

[mossy1200]

Calculates 203 kw/t including 90kg rider.
Limit is 150 kw/t

Likely a collector rather than learner buy it anyway I guess.

[jellywrestler]

Of course its not on the list: only 321 were ever made and that was 25 years ago so nobody has ever .
they can't be very good if they only made that many?

[idleidolidyll]

they can't be very good if they only made that many?

anyone who makes that sort of comment about a Bimota is not theior target audience.

[idleidolidyll]

From memory the Lams MT07 has 50hp.

The FZ400 on which this bike is based, is on the LAMS list.
There are plenty of others with way higher power to weight ratios like the 60HP/120kg Aprilia SXV450, Honda CRF450X, Honda XR650R, Husaberg FE570 and lots more.
Rated at 65HP with a kerb weight of around 175kg; why wouldn't it meet the spec again compared to that Aprilia etc?

Never, mind, if you don't know Bimota and don't understand their philosophy, you're not my target audince anyway. I'll let the certifier guy make the decision if the question is asked

[HenryDorsetCase]

Of course its not on the list: only 321 were ever made and that was 25 years ago so nobody has ever asked the question.
It is rated at less power and about the same weight as Yamahas MT07.
As noted, if anyone wants us to check with our inspector; we will ask him if it meets LAMS requirements.

It doesnt matter whether it "meets the requirements" - If it is not on the fucking list it is noncompliant and fucking learners can't ride it. Your advert is misleading and deceptive. You are in trade. You have committed a breach of the Fair Trading Act (specifically s9). Take that comment out.

[jellywrestler]

anyone who makes that sort of comment about a Bimota is not theior target audience.

what do you mean by audience, are you putting on a show or something?

[idleidolidyll]

Thanks for keeping the ad at the top. Could you all go in and do the same for my other ads? :bleh:

[idleidolidyll]

It doesnt matter whether it "meets the requirements" - If it is not on the fucking list it is noncompliant and fucking learners can't ride it. Your advert is misleading and deceptive. You are in trade. You have committed a breach of the Fair Trading Act (specifically s9). Take that comment out.

WRONG! The authorities have an application form for bikes that have never been considered before. You know, like bikes that were only ever built in limited numbers.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/Driver-Licences/docs/lams-applications.pdf

Nothing worse than a little knowledge.....

[idleidolidyll]

It doesnt matter whether it "meets the requirements" - If it is not on the fucking list it is noncompliant and fucking learners can't ride it. Your advert is misleading and deceptive. You are in trade. You have committed a breach of the Fair Trading Act (specifically s9). Take that comment out.

BTW: I'm just listing many for a friend. I'm not in trade nor is he (he's a sparky, I sell service on heavy machinery). We're selling some of our bikes. If I was breaching the act, I'd have said it DID meet LAMS. I didn't: I said it may meet it and I'd apply if someone asked.

But thanks for keeping it on top of the list

[Grumph]

WRONG! The authorities have an application form for bikes that have never been considered before. You know, like bikes that were only ever built in limited numbers.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/Driver-Licences/docs/lams-applications.pdf

Nothing worse than a little knowledge.....

or arguing with a lawyer.....

If you're quoting the FZ400, good luck with that as it's a different animal to the FZR.

[nzspokes]

The FZ400 on which this bike is based, is on the LAMS list.
There are plenty of others with way higher power to weight ratios like the 60HP/120kg Aprilia SXV450, Honda CRF450X, Honda XR650R, Husaberg FE570 and lots more.
Rated at 65HP with a kerb weight of around 175kg; why wouldn't it meet the spec again compared to that Aprilia etc?

Never, mind, if you don't know Bimota and don't understand their philosophy, you're not my target audince anyway. I'll let the certifier guy make the decision if the question is asked

The general rule is 59hp is the max. Maybe time for you to do some research.

[idleidolidyll]

or arguing with a lawyer.....

If you're quoting the FZ400, good luck with that as it's a different animal to the FZR.

cherry picking is silly: I also offered the 60HP 120kg Aprilia RXV450 and a bunch of others with higher power to weight

[idleidolidyll]

The general rule is 59hp is the max. Maybe time for you to do some research.

Why?
I haven't said it IS a LAMS bike. I said if someone asked I'd ask our inspector to check it out. When someone seriously considering a purchase asks, I'll do the sums.

But please keep posting it to the top of the New Posts lists

[nzspokes]

Why?
I haven't said it IS a LAMS bike. I said if someone asked I'd ask our inspector to check it out. When someone seriously considering a purchase asks, I'll do the sums.

But please keep posting it to the top of the New Posts lists

Giving the idea they may be Lams is not true.

The mods will kill them off soon.

[idleidolidyll]

Giving them the idea?

Red Baron have a Yamaha R1 Z for sale and they're advertizing is as a LAMS bike (45HP/133k could be considered a TZR derivative). I'm only saying I'll ask if it's important to them.

It's not an auction where you have to buy, it's a listing where everything is negotiable.

[Crasherfromwayback]

BTW: I'm just listing many for a friend. I'm not in trade nor is he (he's a sparky, I sell service on heavy machinery). We're selling some of our bikes. t

So these bikes of yours...you're just selling off...all happen to be Japanese imports of odd ball bikes? None of which have ever been registered in NZ? What are the chance of that?? And it's not a business?

[HenryDorsetCase]

So these bikes of yours...you're just selling off...all happen to be Japanese imports of odd ball bikes? None of which have ever been registered in NZ? What are the chance of that?? And it's not a business?

My recollection of the lor (and its sunday and I am not getting paid so fucked if I am looking it up) is that you are deemed to be a dealer if you sell more than six in a year.

If OP had a KB2, I'd have bought it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If OP had a KB2, I'd have bought it.

Yeah. Cept you can't buy KB2's for next to nuffing and bring them here to make money...


It's not business though.

[idleidolidyll]

I'm being trolled!

jellywrester pretending to be a buyer on TradeMe. Pretty dumb thinking I wouldn't figure it out. Don't bother asking me to comply it troll.

[Akzle]

My recollection of the lor (and its sunday and I am not getting paid so fucked if I am looking it up) is that you are deemed to be a dealer if you sell more than six in a year.

If OP had a KB2, I'd have bought it.

yea but there's him, his mate, his mum, his "uncles"...

also if they're not reg, the purchaser would be the first to register a person in respect.

[idleidolidyll]

My recollection of the lor (and its sunday and I am not getting paid so fucked if I am looking it up) is that you are deemed to be a dealer if you sell more than six in a year.

If OP had a KB2, I'd have bought it.

I think it's seven actually but I'm just going from memory. But true enough HDC.
Neither I or the owner of the other bikes has sold ANY bikes in the last few years and certainly never sold 6 or 7 a year. Mind you, if he does manage to sell lots of his bikes; he might decide to become a trader.

[idleidolidyll]

yea but there's him, his mate, his mum, his "uncles"...

also if they're not reg, the purchaser would be the first to register a person in respect.

so call my bluff, come around and check it out........................

it amazes me that people really give a damn. Here's a private sale offering some really interesting bikes and the trolls just wanna play pissing games.

It's not bad outside, I'd be riding if I didn't have a broken back; wht's your excuse?

[idleidolidyll]

So these bikes of yours...you're just selling off...all happen to be Japanese imports of odd ball bikes? None of which have ever been registered in NZ? What are the chance of that?? And it's not a business?

Yep, strangely enough, ANYONE can buy a bike from Japan; you don't have to be a trader. BTW: I already said that only 2 are mine. Can you figure out which?

[Maha]

so call my bluff, come around and check it out........................

it amazes me that people really give a damn. Here's a private sale offering some really interesting bikes and the trolls just wanna play pissing games.

It's not bad outside, I'd be riding if I didn't have a broken back; wht's your excuse?

You made the Optimistic Sellers thread Mike. You'll find the same people posting in both threads.

Thanks all the same...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1194778335

[Crasherfromwayback]

You made the Optimistic Sellers thread Mike. You'll find the same people posting in both threads.

Ohhhhhh...Mike...MIKE! I've just got to tell you some tales....

What a fuckwit.

[idleidolidyll]

The general rule is 59hp is the max. Maybe time for you to do some research.

actually, it's more than just power and weight and there's no general rule; just the rules. If 59HP is the max, there's at least half a dozen bikes on the list t a glance, that exceed that so called limit. Hell, I even posted some!

But thanks for keeping it on top of the list

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep, strangely enough, ANYONE can buy a bike from Japan; you don't have to be a trader. BTW: I already said that only 2 are mine. Can you figure out which?

Fucking lot of hassle to go to to just sell 'em on I would've thought. And I couldn't give a shit which ones are yours.

[idleidolidyll]

Ohhhhhh...Mike...MIKE! I've just got to tell you some tales....

What a fuckwit.

yes, i've dealt with said fuckwits before, keep it up, I like the bike staying on top of the sellers list

[idleidolidyll]

Fucking lot of hassle to go to to just sell 'em on I would've thought. And I couldn't give a shit which ones are yours.

That's a really odd statement

How else would someone go about selling something: stand outside and shout?

good grief there's some dross in here!

[Crasherfromwayback]

yes, i've dealt with said fuckwits before, keep it up, I like the bike staying on top of the sellers list

At least with old Maha round you'll save a shitload on toilet paper. How long has he been tonguing your crack?

[Madness]

BTW: I already said that only 2 are mine. Can you figure out which?

The KTM & Ducati Monster? Thought I'd get in before Maha.

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's a really odd statement

How else would someone go about selling something: stand outside and shout?

good grief there's some dross in here!

So let me get this straight.

You import these bikes from Japan.

They've never been ridden here.

They're just your bikes you've decided to sell (sorry...you and ya mate).

And it's not a business?

And I make odd statements.

[flashg]

So these bikes of yours...you're just selling off...all happen to be Japanese imports of odd ball bikes? None of which have ever been registered in NZ? What are the chance of that?? And it's not a business?
I'm just thinking, I'm not in business,(selling bikes) maybe I should have an inspector as well, because I sold a bike a couple of months back. What was I thinking ? I need my own inspector.
Crasher you sell bikes, do you have your own inspector ?

[idleidolidyll]

At least with old Maha round you'll save a shitload on toilet paper. How long has he been tonguing your crack?

still a brainless tosser i see, i pity yuou

[idleidolidyll]

I'm just thinking, I'm not in business,(selling bikes) maybe I should have an inspector as well, because I sold a bike a couple of months back. What was I thinking ? I need my own inspector.
Crasher you sell bikes, do you have your own inspector ?

Nope, I sell services on cherry pickers. However, I have owned a lot of bikes and the guys at my local VTNZ know me by name.

Thanks again for bumping the post

[Akzle]

I'm being trolled!

jellywrester pretending to be a buyer on TradeMe. Pretty dumb thinking I wouldn't figure it out. Don't bother asking me to comply it troll.

there's a difference between 'taking the piss' and 'trolling'. but I suspect your too stupid to appreciate the subtlety.

[Crasherfromwayback]

still a brainless tosser i see, i pity yuou

And you're still a full of shit windbag. But I pity the people you're trying to touch. Oily Wankstain.

[Maha]

Ohhhhhh...Mike...MIKE! I've just got to tell you some tales....

What a fuckwit.

When I suggested that you ask him directly about it your response was..


Why would I waste my time doing that? I've only been selling the fucking things for the last couple of decades.

I see you found some of your precious time to waste or you ran with my suggestion :niceone:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crasher you sell bikes, do you have your own inspector ?

Nah. I just tell the truth. Works every time. :msn-wink:

[Crasherfromwayback]

I see you found some of your precious time to waste or you ran with my suggestion :niceone:

Man...you're fucking amazing. Does Anne mind you munching mens butts?

[Maha]

Man...you're fucking amazing. Does Anne mind you munching mens butts?

:killingme Seems you are the one that swings both ways here, says something and then does the complete opposite. :facepalm:

[Crasherfromwayback]

:killingme Seems you are the one that swings both ways here, says something and then does the complete opposite. :facepalm:

When you see me sucking some cunts arse here...Oh Mike...MIKE!!! Feel free to call me a homo. Butt munch.

[Laava]

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[FJRider]

actually, it's more than just power and weight and there's no general rule; just the rules. If 59HP is the max, there's at least half a dozen bikes on the list t a glance, that exceed that so called limit. Hell, I even posted some!



Actually ... The LAM's system is based on a power to weight ratio. Thus ... the more horsepower the bike has ... the heavier it needs to be. As long as it is under 660 cc and it's weight in production form meets the power to weight formula (150 Kilowatts per tonne) it can be approved as a LAM's motorcycle.

The Bimota YB7 is listed as developing 47.5 Kilowatts. You list the bike at 160 kg (plus 90 kg for rider and safety gear as required in LAM's legislation)

The formula ... The power-to-weight ratio calculation involves the power output (kilowatts)being divided by the tare weight of the motorcycle plus 90 kg (for rider and safety gear).The result is then multiplied by 1000 (to convert to kW per tonne).


Thus the end figure is 194 Kilowatts. 44 Kilowatts over .... I doubt ANY inspector will overlook that number.

[FJRider]

actually, it's more than just power and weight and there's no general rule; just the rules. If 59HP is the max, there's at least half a dozen bikes on the list t a glance, that exceed that so called limit. Hell, I even posted some!



It' ALL about the power to weight ratio. And the rules are remove any ambiguity that may be implied in legislation. Or believed by some people.

The "Rules" ...

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/Driver-Licences/docs/lams-faqs.pdf

[jellywrestler]

I'm being trolled!

jellywrester pretending to be a buyer on TradeMe. Pretty dumb thinking I wouldn't figure it out. Don't bother asking me to comply it troll.

not trolling at all on trademe, no point on a classified, i asked a valid question through my primary trademe account; and you spat the dummy, seems i live rent free in your head.

[nzspokes]

I'm being trolled!


Tends to happen when you spam bomb.

[AllanB]

I'm surprised Bimota are still going. They lost their relevance years back when everyone started making better sport bikes. Just a item for the rich now.

[sidecar bob]

I'm being trolled!

jellywrester pretending to be a buyer on TradeMe. Pretty dumb thinking I wouldn't figure it out. Don't bother asking me to comply it troll.

Pretending to be a buyer? id be careful about assuming that.

[pritch]

I have owned a lot of bikes and the guys at my local VTNZ know me by name.


They've probably got his photo on their smoko room wall. As a warning.

[Rcktfsh]

they can't be very good if they only made that many?

The ad say thats the number known to be made, dependent on the unknown number made they could be very popular?

[sidecar bob]

The ad say thats the number known to be made, dependent on the unknown number made they could be very popular?

Apparently Yamaha did some kind of deal with Bimota & that model was mass produced & sold through Yamaha dealers in Japan & is as common as dogshit.

[Rcktfsh]

Apparently Yamaha did some kind of deal with Bimota & that model was mass produced & sold through Yamaha dealers in Japan & is as common as dogshit.

You must be right, so bloody common I just found one in my garage. Mind you there'd be 3 with change left over at the price being rather optimistically asked.

[sidecar bob]

You must be right, so bloody common I just found one in my garage. Mind you there'd be 3 with change left over at the price being rather optimistically asked.

Well they must be as common as beaten up Toyota Granvia's then. Here ya go. JDM only. http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/bimota/bimota_yb7%2088.htm

[HenryDorsetCase]

without a KB2 the best value Bimota on tardme is that BB1. Even if it has that chick covered in awful tatts draped all over it.

[Rcktfsh]

Well they must be as common as beaten up Toyota Granvia's then. Here ya go. JDM only. http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/bimota/bimota_yb7%2088.htm

The beaten up Granvia cost me twice as much.