U Turn and win stuff

[rastuscat]

It's an ACC competition. I know, I know, blah blah blah.

But you have to be in to win.

http://www.rideforever.co.nz/news-and-events/challenge-yourself-to-be-a-better-rider/

[Akzle]

jeeeeeeeeesus facebook is gay shit. I suppose there's a great circle jerk happening at acc right now "hey look we're hip, we're cool, we're with the times, community outreach and engagement!"

and I can almost guarantee the week will not come, with "sikk wheelies" or "evade police". but that's the shit everyone SHOULD be filling the internet with. instead there's going to be a bunch of retards filming this faggotry and wasting someone else's paid for server space, bandwidth, etc.

bonus points for tagging gymkhana and drift vids.

#boycottgayaccshit

[rastuscat]

jeeeeeeeeesus facebook is gay shit. I suppose there's a great circle jerk happening at acc right now "hey look we're hip, we're cool, we're with the times, community outreach and engagement!"

and I can almost guarantee the week will not come, with "sikk wheelies" or "evade police". but that's the shit everyone SHOULD be filling the internet with. instead there's going to be a bunch of retards filming this faggotry and wasting someone else's paid for server space, bandwidth, etc.

bonus points for tagging gymkhana and drift vids.

#boycottgayaccshit

Pills wearing off?

[caspernz]

Looks like a challenge that many a KB keyboard warrior may not want to partake in...after all you'd at least need an actual motorcycle.

Nothing wrong with this approach from ACC in my view, let's see how many of my fellow riders I can talk into partaking.

[rastuscat]

Looks like a challenge that many a KB keyboard warrior may not want to partake in...after all you'd at least need an actual motorcycle.

Nothing wrong with this approach from ACC in my view, let's see how many of my fellow riders I can talk into partaking.

It's the 2 x your bike length that makes it a challenge.

The Police standard u-turn requirement is 5.5 metres. My R1200RT is 2.2 metres long. I snapped out a u-turn in 4.4 metres (2 × length) yesterday, it wasn't easy.

I'll be going it a go on my moped too. Unlike some, I'm not scared of a challenge.

[nzspokes]

Looks like a challenge that many a KB keyboard warrior may not want to partake in...after all you'd at least need an actual motorcycle.

Nothing wrong with this approach from ACC in my view, let's see how many of my fellow riders I can talk into partaking.

I kinda get it but cant be arsed doing a vid of riding in a circle.

[nzspokes]

I'm not scared of a challenge.

Do it in 4m. :lol:

[rastuscat]

I kinda get it but cant be arsed doing a vid of riding in a circle.
It's a half circle. You'll be fine.

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[rastuscat]

https://youtu.be/MQPgFQcfpN0

Bring on the derision Azkill.

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[Akzle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmbpENZs7DY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe5h9y29iUw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8JmPNGVtDTM

do it faggot.

[george formby]

Purely for entertainment value the U'y should be in both directions...


I could do with a new jacket, where's me go pro?

[rastuscat]

Purely for entertainment value the U'y should be in both directions...


I could do with a new jacket, where's me go pro?
I did in in the conventional U-turn direction.

Then I did it in the other direction and it was easier.

Everyone has a favourite direction. Mine is to the left as it frees up the throttle.

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[rastuscat]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmbpENZs7DY

do it faggot.

The first vid is gold information thanks.

The rest is mildly entertaining. Sod off.

[pritch]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmbpENZs7DY


I'd like to be able to ride like that but it'd take practice. During said practice there may be some ahhhh miscalculations? So I'd need some of those XOS crash bars they're using.

[rastuscat]

I'd like to be able to ride like that but it'd take practice. During said practice there may be some ahhhh miscalculations? So I'd need some of those XOS crash bars they're using.
Crash bars make you less cautious. Which means you might learn faster from your mistakes.



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[Swoop]

The Police standard u-turn requirement is 5.5 metres.

If they could do that in a commodore, would it reduce the biker deaths caused by police?:eek5:
Discuss.

[rastuscat]

If they could do that in a commodore, would it reduce the deaths caused by police to bikers?:eek5:
Discuss.

I should have been more specific, for the less fortunate out there.

It's the motorcycle standard.

But I think you know that, and just wanted to dredge an old topic for a whinge.

[Swoop]

I should have been more specific, for the less fortunate out there.

It's the motorcycle standard.

But I think you know that, and just wanted to dredge an old topic for a whinge.

Just wondering if there had been an internal edict to stop that shit happening? We haven't seen silly U-turns happening for a while.

[willytheekid]

https://youtu.be/MQPgFQcfpN0 (https://youtu.be/MQPgFQcfpN0)

Bring on the derision Azkill.

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Yeah, Ive seen something like that done before :yes:...was a tad smaller, but pritty much the same handling result

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzveUz-WRGQ

:killingme

[rastuscat]

Just wondering if there had been an internal edict to stop that shit happening? We haven't seen silly U-turns happening for a while.
They still happen. I suspect luck has favoured the practise.

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[rastuscat]

Yeah, Ive seen something like that done before :yes:...was a tad smaller, but pritty much the same handling result

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzveUz-WRGQ

:killingme
That's a heeling trial.

They do a thing called an Operational Assessment from time to time.

It includes pumping all fluids to one side to see how far the ship heels, then pump it back to the other side. It's a bitch trying to have a shower when the ship is at 40 degrees.

The other trial is a full speed, full wheel turn. Awesome. Wreaks havoc in the galley.

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[R650R]

Right... never mind that we have a govt agency encouraging us to do one of the most dangerous manourveres out there... which should be unnecessary if a prudent prepared motorist has planned their journey and read road signs correctly...
Anyhow though in the video the rider is doing it WRONG. Three major fails before hes even halfway through turn. NZTA's and ACC's own safety website "Drive" says you should:

1.Check your mirrors, signal left and pull in as close to the kerb as you can.
2.Check your mirrors and signal right for at least three seconds.
3.Look for cars, cyclists and pedestrians in your mirrors and over your shoulder.

The rider in video fails on first three counts. And the look over the shoulder should be done stationary with arse twisted in seat for proper view. I doubt in the video how far or if at all he could see anything about to hit him in meaningful useful time knowing how poor perihipal vision froma helmet is.

https://drive.govt.nz/learn-to-drive/parking-and-turning-around/u-turns/

Road trip tommorow so might play the game and doa vid tho.... ;)

[R650R]

oh here's one we baked earlier, feet up reverse uturn in wet with clay covered 80/20 tyres and hungry rider looking for pie warmer and petrol, mot necessarily in that order....

Vimeo sucks, not working

[nzspokes]

If they could do that in a commodore

Easy, handbrake is involved.

[rastuscat]

Right... never mind that we have a govt agency encouraging us to do one of the most dangerous manourveres out there... which should be unnecessary if a prudent prepared motorist has planned their journey and read road signs correctly...
Anyhow though in the video the rider is doing it WRONG. Three major fails before hes even halfway through turn. NZTA's and ACC's own safety website "Drive" says you should:

1.Check your mirrors, signal left and pull in as close to the kerb as you can.
2.Check your mirrors and signal right for at least three seconds.
3.Look for cars, cyclists and pedestrians in your mirrors and over your shoulder.

The rider in video fails on first three counts. And the look over the shoulder should be done stationary with arse twisted in seat for proper view. I doubt in the video how far or if at all he could see anything about to hit him in meaningful useful time knowing how poor perihipal vision froma helmet is.

https://drive.govt.nz/learn-to-drive/parking-and-turning-around/u-turns/

Road trip tommorow so might play the game and doa vid tho.... ;)

Your comments fail to grasp one thing........context.

Out in the street the things you mention are relevant. But in the video, it's done for a specific reason. To encourage people to expand their skills. In a safe environment.

Nobody said that anyone should go out into traffic and get themselves filmed.

Still, never let context stand in the way of a good whinge.

[Akzle]

Easy, handbrake is involved.

rwd fagot .

[nzspokes]

rwd fagot .

I know, I have one sitting in the garage. HTH

[R650R]

Your comments fail to grasp one thing........context.

Out in the street the things you mention are relevant. But in the video, it's done for a specific reason. To encourage people to expand their skills. In a safe environment.

Nobody said that anyone should go out into traffic and get themselves filmed.

Still, never let context stand in the way of a good whinge.

The Context is nanny state telling you your shite at riding and need to train cause we're paying too much for injuries from accidents where u turn is mentioned on the claim form.
I'll accept a LOT of riders probably drop their bikes during U turns, done it myself twice on steep surfaces, didn't hurt myself though.
BUT the bigger danger of becoming Hamburger is being snotted by a motorist behind you that you've not seen who doesn't know your u turning.
99.99% of the time when bikes are doing uturns its probably going to be on a public road.....

So just like ATGATT principle, ACC should be reinforcing the instinct of indicating your actions to other road users and being fully aware of your surroundings.

[rastuscat]

The Context is nanny state telling you your shite at riding and need to train cause we're paying too much for injuries from accidents where u turn is mentioned on the claim form.
I'll accept a LOT of riders probably drop their bikes during U turns, done it myself twice on steep surfaces, didn't hurt myself though.
BUT the bigger danger of becoming Hamburger is being snotted by a motorist behind you that you've not seen who doesn't know your u turning.
99.99% of the time when bikes are doing uturns its probably going to be on a public road.....

So just like ATGATT principle, ACC should be reinforcing the instinct of indicating your actions to other road users and being fully aware of your surroundings.
I'm sorry you are having a bad day.

The competition is a bit of fun. You'd do well to see it as such.

Of course, your views are worthy and it's interesting to hear them. It just seems that you are sitting waiting for something to be annoyed about.

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[mossy1200]

Italian S Bike doing U turn in 5.5

TUI

[R650R]

The competition is a bit of fun. You'd do well to see it as such.



That's govt money, from our $30 ACC extra levy, money that could have paid for a better cell phone plan so Key doesn't miss calls from the worlds superpower....
but no, its on ACC feel good propaganda fluff.

I'm not annoyed or angry, just have an eye for irony and the absurd hypocracy that state depts. churn out...

Next week we'll have the fire dept doing how to light fireworks safely videos. The guy will be throwing matches over his shoulder, but it will be ok because he's not at a grassy beach or near the family stockpile of crackers.....

Safety is all about reinforcing positive behaviuour choices so its second nature....

[Gremlin]

The Context is nanny state telling you your shite at riding and need to train cause we're paying too much for injuries from accidents where u turn is mentioned on the claim form.
Not quite how I see it. Quite simply the majority of motorcyclists could use some upskilling. Yes, cars play their part in incidents, but you can't easily control that, can you? What you can control is yourself, and if you're the best you can be, you're going to not only cover yourself, but potentially the poor skills of the car driver (they didn't see you, but you saw them, anticipated the risk, braked, prevented an incident etc). I'm not saying all the fault/responsibility is yours, but if you can stack the deck in your favour, why wouldn't you?

The real headache however, is that often, those that would benefit the most from upskilling won't, while those that are proactive and do upskill, are generally the safer riders already. There is a perception amongst some that rider training is boring and motorcycling is for fun, but I fail to see how the points are mutually exclusive? Training can be fun, and having increased skills increases my odds of returning home safe... why wouldn't you want that?

So... how does the likes of ACC reach those that don't want to upskill? Being a government organisation tasked with that job (amongst others) they simply can't go back and say "Well, we tried, they said no, so we gave up. Lets have lunch". That's why you see these different initiatives. For what it's worth, I do see a shift in the general populace (ignoring the extreme ends) to a more safety concious attitude, more partaking in rider training etc.

[rastuscat]

That's the key fact.

Those who would benefit the most from training are precise
ly the ones who think they have nothing to learn.

It's a training quandary.

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[Akzle]

So... how does the likes of ACC reach those that don't want to upskill? Being a government organisation tasked with that job (amongst others) they simply can't go back and say "Well, we tried, they said no, so we gave up. Lets have lunch".

and posting videos on jewtube achieves that?
I submit that it does not.

and we're back to that nanny state thing.
not everyone SHOULD be saved from themselves.
#outmodedgovernancestructures

[nzspokes]

not everyone SHOULD be saved from themselves.
#outmodedgovernancestructures

Going down that path means those to lazy to work should not get a benefit.

[Big Dog]

and posting videos on jewtube achieves that?
I submit that it does not.

and we're back to that nanny state thing.
not everyone SHOULD be saved from themselves.
#outmodedgovernancestructures
On its own it does not... it might however inspire people to talk about it or even engage the competitive nature in getting people to self assess their own skills more critically.

I have to admit, when it got to the part about must do it in 2 bike lengths it made me think.
I could do it in less on the Hayabusa, the DR, the 1100, I haven't tried to do one that tight on the CB1300.

I didn't video it but I did one just to see last night. I could use some practice but no problem.

Thinking critically about our own skill set seems like good value for spend.

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[rastuscat]

It's a competition. You can win stuff by taking part.

You can also choose not to.

What's the problem?

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[Tazz]

Going to do this with a bunch of my riders at work for shits and giggles :D

[rastuscat]

Going to do this with a a bunch of my riders at work for shits and giggles :D
That's the whole point.

Encouraging folk to challenge themselves.

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[Tazz]

Watching people fall over is also fun :D

[rastuscat]

Watching people fall over is also fun :D
Yup. Touch the front brake or pull the clutch in while the bike is cranked over and it's likely to end in amusement.

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[Tazz]

Yup. Touch the front brake or pull the clutch in while the bike is cranked over and it's likely to end in amusement.

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They've got it easy, no clutch. Livin the dream!

[Akzle]

Going down that path means those to lazy to work should not get a benefit.

going further down that path means there should be no central government

[EJK]

Going to do this with a bunch of my riders at work for shits and giggles :D

You upload one, and I'll also upload mine :)

[Drew]

From a stand still, I can do it in one bike length on the RF. Give or take a hundred mm. But ACC would likely not condone doing skids.

That's behind the garage at home though. Haven't found anywhere suitable to try it rolling and marked out. Not sure how I'll get on to be honest. I don't recall ever having tried it, or any practical skills that would be learned from it.

[rastuscat]

You upload one, and I'll also upload mine :)
Just a heads up EJ. The S1000RR isn't a slow speed man-hoovering beast.

Sports bike have steering geometry and forward riding position which make slow speed stuff a little harder.

Trials bikes are the best I've ever seen at slow speed work. Wish I'd done trials as a kid. Awesome skills.

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[EJK]

Just a heads up EJ. The S1000RR isn't a slow speed man-hoovering beast.

Sports bike have steering geometry and forward riding position which make slow speed stuff a little harder.

Trials bikes are the best I've ever seen at slow speed work. Wish I'd done trials as a kid. Awesome skills.

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Well, looks like I'm in for the pear shaped outcome. Will still have a crack at it.

[rastuscat]

Italian S Bike doing U turn in 5.5

TUI

When I get a chance I ride clients bikes with their permission.

I had a ride on a yellow Ducati 748 a while back. The turning circle is somewhat larger than that of the USS Enterprise.

To be fair, they are designed for fanging down the auto strada. Horses for courses.

The worst modern bike I've tried slow speed gymkhana work on is the Street Triple 675. Beautiful bike, sweet ride. But not a slow speed handing bike.

[old slider]

That's the key fact.

Those who would benefit the most from training are precise
ly the ones who think they have nothing to learn.

It's a training quandary.

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Rather than the thinking they have nothing to learn, it could be some are fearful of the rider training for various other reasons, personally I would be very hesitant to go along to this type of training session on my HD, the mere thought of dropping it is a biggie, never mind the feeling like a twat due to age and skill level, presently I check mirrors, signal, pull over and stop, look to make sure its clear and then cautiously do a U turn if its necessary to do so.

[rastuscat]

Rather than the thinking they have nothing to learn, it could be some are fearful of the rider training for various other reasons, personally I would be very hesitant to go along to this type of training session on my HD, the mere thought of dropping it is a biggie, never mind the feeling like a twat due to age and skill level, presently I check mirrors, signal, pull over and stop, look to make sure its clear and then cautiously do a U turn if its necessary to do so.

When I used to train police riders I used to use this line.

"Okay, you're going up Manchester Street, and you see a donut sale in a shop on the right hand side of the road. Flip a quick u-turn and you've sorted your day."

If I was following you, and you pulled over to the side of the road to facilitate your U-turn, I'd turn inside you, and get to the donut sale first.

I can't say I blame you for your caution though. The farkles on the Harleys are expensive.

At the same time, anyone who thinks Harleys can't be thrown around should have a look at this.

That's Road King running boards you can hear. Why do you suppose they are hinged?


https://youtu.be/EjA4MWqKbmU

[Big Dog]

That's Road King running boards you can hear. Why do you suppose they are hinged?


Because the riders are not? :rofl:

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[onearmedbandit]

Love this sort of stuff, might have to give it a go on the thou. Actually I'd love to come do one of the training sessions but ah yeah you know my situation Pete.

[rastuscat]

Love this sort of stuff, might have to give it a go on the thou. Actually I'd love to come do one of the training sessions but ah yeah you know my situation Pete.

I might consider running a slow pro session for some local riders (Christchurch). Anyone interested? I have only a vague idea what the session would look like, but if there's enough interest I might get it up and running.

I've run enough Police sessions to know what the exercises would look like.

Anyone keen?

[onearmedbandit]

I'd be in, depending on the date.

[rastuscat]

I'd be in, depending on the date.
You already know, given your circumstances, that you are my hero.

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[caspernz]

I'd be in, depending on the date.


You already know, given your circumstances, that you are my hero.

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Catch it on video and it's a winner I'd say :niceone:

[onearmedbandit]

You already know, given your circumstances, that you are my hero.

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Oh now you're just being silly ;)

But thanks nonetheless, means a lot. I've still got lots I know I can learn or improve on.

[onearmedbandit]

Catch it on video and it's a winner I'd say :niceone:

Oh it will be videoed no doubt. Even the stuff-ups will make it to the final cut.

[rastuscat]

Oh now you're just being silly ;)

But thanks nonetheless, means a lot. I've still got lots I know I can learn or improve on.

I'm sitting designing a new CBTA 6F route. This thread is a cool distraction. Feck all work getting done but I'm smiling, and that's a win.

[EJK]

Have my name down, Pete. But I'm only available during the weekends tho. Hey I can even bring my camera.

[rastuscat]

Have my name down, Pete. But I'm only available during the weekends tho. Hey I can even bring my camera.

It'd be a Sunday arvo probably. Hey, it's just a concept just now, life is busy. I'll get my head around it, and see what pans out.

Filming is a good idea. We could do a fails compilation.

[onearmedbandit]

It'd be a Sunday arvo probably. Hey, it's just a concept just now, life is busy. I'll get my head around it, and see what pans out.

Filming is a good idea. We could do a fails compilation.

Keep us posted. And glad I've got crash bungs on the thou. Could bring the street fighter thou, that's got a cage on it ha. But that would be cheating with it's wide bar. Clip-on seems like the better challenge.

[scumdog]

Pills wearing off?

Yeah, his glass is always one gallon big for the pint he's drinking.

Always.:rolleyes:

[scumdog]

Sad indictment of some people that choose to vomit negativity all over a positive-topic thread,
(ah well I guess some people are on the planet just to make the rest of us look good<_<)

[Akzle]

Yeah, his glass is always one gallon big for the pint he's drinking.

Always.:rolleyes:
:stupid:
dude. the thread moved on. about 60 posts ago.

at least try and keep up.

[scumdog]

:stupid:
dude. the thread moved on. about 60 posts ago.

at least try and keep up.




I rest my case.




Dude.

[Banditbandit]

Yeah, Ive seen something like that done before :yes:...was a tad smaller, but pritty much the same handling result

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzveUz-WRGQ

:killingme

Don't they know to lean in, not lean out?

[rastuscat]

Update

I've now completed the CBTA 6F route I've been planning today.

For some reason it includes 17 U-turns, and a full circle with one hand.

I'll submit it to NZTA and see if they are okay with it.

Peace, out.

[Gremlin]

For some reason it includes 17 U-turns, and a full circle with one hand.
Sounds like the Auckland CBD Triathlon course... usually had 2-3 u-turns per cycle/run course. Factor in the laps, multiple races, some of us were doing 50+ u-turns in a day, most 2-up.

Just when you got comfortable all the pretty girls came out cheering... :sweatdrop

[Askor]

For some reason it includes 17 U-turns, and a full circle with one hand.


Sounds like your CBTA 6R route Pete :bleh: would it be cheating if I took the WR on this potential slow course?

[rastuscat]

Sounds like your CBTA 6R route Pete :bleh: would it be cheating if I took the WR on this potential slow course?
As long as it's not a WR-X

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[Askor]

As long as it's not a WR-X

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WR450F, I did the 6R with you a wee while ago. You said you liked my U turns but not how close i stopped behind cars :o

[rastuscat]

WR450F, I did the 6R with you a wee while ago. You said you liked my U turns but not how close i stopped behind cars :o
I recall, it's the only WR I've seen.

It's disappointing how few people have the kahunas to do a u turn. It's easy, Safe and convenient, if done properly.

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[Swoop]

Trials bikes are the best I've ever seen at slow speed work. Wish I'd done trials as a kid. Awesome skills.

Absolutely!
Just a shame that they don't put trials on TV like they used to do years ago. Great watching and probably even more fun "doing".:first:

[old slider]

I recall, it's the only WR I've seen.

It's disappointing how few people have the kahunas to do a u turn. It's easy, Safe and convenient, if done properly.

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Not necessarily always a lack of kahunas rastuscat, some riders may have old injuries like lets say whiplash or some other neck or spinal injury preventing the ability to turn the head or even the body around as much as others and possibly are reluctant to trust their safety entirely on the mirrors.

But then we get into "should only fully fit able bodied riders be allowed to ride". lol

[Drew]

But then we get into "should only fully fit able bodied riders be allowed to ride". lol

Hope that never comes in. Cast up to my shoulder didn't stop me. Cast up to my hip presented too great a challenge though.

[onearmedbandit]

Fuck 'em if it did, I'd still ride haha.

[Akzle]

Hope that never comes in. Cast up to my shoulder didn't stop me. Cast up to my hip presented too great a challenge though.

your the reason we pay so much acc. fuck you cunt.

[Drew]

your the reason we pay so much acc. fuck you cunt.

The reason for the smashed limbs was indeed bike accidents too.

Hahahaha. Get fucked cunts.

[rastuscat]

Fuck 'em if it did, I'd still ride haha.
And that, OAB, is why you are my hero.

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[Drew]

And that, OAB, is why you are my hero.

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Raise you're standards old boy. Fraser can't wheelie for shit.

[rastuscat]

Raise you're standards old boy. Fraser can't wheelie for shit.
If only I had had a camera when we first met.

His wheelie across Bealey Ave in 2005 or 2006 was when my admiration was born. It was professional admiration at hat time, as I was wearing my blue suit at the time.

It gave me cause to ponder that age old enforcement question.........is a decent wheelie really Careless Driving? Looked fairly careful to me.

But one has to do what one has to do. Especially when watched by ones direct line manager.

Still, a good wheelie with one hand is a good wheelie, any day.

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[old slider]

If only I had had a camera when we first met.

His wheelie across Bealey Ave in 2005 or 2006 was when my admiration was born. It was professional admiration at hat time, as I was wearing my blue suit at the time.

It gave me cause to ponder that age old enforcement question.........is a decent wheelie really Careless Driving? Looked fairly careful to me.

But one has to do what one has to do. Especially when watched by ones direct line manager.

Still, a good wheelie with one hand is a good wheelie, any day.

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Now that's Kahunas and skill.
I admit I spent a lot of time back in the 70s learning how to do wheelies, sadly I was a miserable fail at it, still I did get to do a few bike jumps over 5-6 of my fellow bike mates laying side by side at the back of a raised dirt bank in Kowhai park while riding a 1967 TC 200.

I made sure I cleared with speed more than skill because two of the guys were brothers from a large well known Boxing family, lol

[Drew]

Now that's Kahunas and skill.
I admit I spent a lot of time back in the 70s learning how to do wheelies, sadly I was a miserable fail at it, still I did get to do a few bike jumps over 5-6 of my fellow bike mates laying side by side at the back of a raised dirt bank in Kowhai park while riding a 1967 TC 200.

I made sure I cleared with speed more than skill because two of the guys were brothers from a large well known Boxing family, lol
Maaaaaaaate.

[Akzle]

It gave me cause to ponder that age old enforcement question.........is a decent wheelie really Careless Driving? Looked fairly careful to me.

But one has to do what one has to do. Especially when watched by ones direct line manager.

Still, a good wheelie with one hand is a good wheelie, any day.


i knew it.
...he should have waved, huh?

[onearmedbandit]

Raise you're standards old boy. Fraser can't wheelie for shit.

And you can't spell.


If only I had had a camera when we first met.

His wheelie across Bealey Ave in 2005 or 2006 was when my admiration was born. It was professional admiration at hat time, as I was wearing my blue suit at the time.

It gave me cause to ponder that age old enforcement question.........is a decent wheelie really Careless Driving? Looked fairly careful to me.

But one has to do what one has to do. Especially when watched by ones direct line manager.

Still, a good wheelie with one hand is a good wheelie, any day.

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I remember that day well. Your first words to me were 'Pull over up ahead. I don't want a race'. Figured that was fair enough, I wouldn't want to lose in front of my manager either. It was a fair cop though guv', you were decent (as I must say 99% of the police I've had dealing with are, must be the attitude test thing), and if I remember correctly you gave me the choice of what charge I could have. Dangerous or careless...

[onearmedbandit]

i knew it.
...he should have waved, huh?

I did. Luckily he didn't see it though, indecent exposure and all that.

[old slider]

Maaaaaaaate.


Lol. that's a much better looking bike than my old zooky.

[nudemetalz]

Italian S Bike doing U turn in 5.5

TUI

I'll let you know tomorrow on my Gold Course on the V11 Sport ;)

[rastuscat]

I'll let you know tomorrow on my Gold Course on the V11 Sport ;)

How'd it go?

[James Deuce]

Looks like a challenge that many a KB keyboard warrior may not want to partake in...after all you'd at least need an actual motorcycle.

Nothing wrong with this approach from ACC in my view, let's see how many of my fellow riders I can talk into partaking.
Fuck ACC and the horse they rode in on. With a Euclid front end loader.

[EJK]

Fuck ACC and the horse they rode in on. With a Euclid front end loader.

It's just a simple u turn, not a Harvard entrance exam.

[nudemetalz]

How'd it go?

Unfortunately the course got canned due to the high winds here in the Capital but I'm doing it this Thursday instead.

Funnily enough I did a few U-turn practices at the end of my cul-de-sac after work tonight.
Rear brake modulating smoothness, a little power, clutch slipping a bit and was able to do them at full lock feet up but sheez, the V11 ain't the best bike for it !!

[rastuscat]

Unfortunately the course got canned due to the high winds here in the Capital but I'm doing it this Thursday instead.

Funnily enough I did a few U-turn practices at the end of my cul-de-sac after work tonight.
Rear brake modulating smoothness, a little power, clutch slipping a bit and was able to do them at full lock feet up but sheez, the V11 ain't the best bike for it !!
That's the technique to use. Good work.

Also keep your head up and turn yourself inside out. It'll help.

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[ajturbo]

It's the 2 x your bike length that makes it a challenge.

The Police standard u-turn requirement is 5.5 metres. My R1200RT is 2.2 metres long. I snapped out a u-turn in 4.4 metres (2 × length) yesterday, it wasn't easy.

I'll be going it a go on my moped too. Unlike some, I'm not scared of a challenge.

I got taught to do a "U" turn on full lock on the Buell.. easy as.. probably half the length of your RT...:baby:

[SuperMac]

I'd like to be able to ride like that but it'd take practice. During said practice there may be some ahhhh miscalculations? So I'd need some of those XOS crash bars they're using.

Learn slow control in a straight line first, gradually bring your speed down: squeeze in the clutch, dabs of rear brake. Keep your head and eyes up, looking as far ahead as you can. Keep a light grip on the bars. As you slow, when it starts to wobble open the throttle and *ease* the clutch gently. Gain just enough speed to get stability, rinse and repeat. Aim is to come to a momentary feet up stop then pull away again.

Why all that bother before trying a Ueey? Because you need to start building confidence to turn your head and drive to that point (which will move forward as you ride on) and competence that if the bike feels unsettled you know how to apply power and drive out of a turn rather than panic.

Also, before you start the Ueey, plan your way out: if you need to ride out of the turn, look out and choose a tangential line, ride that direction, only stop when the bike is straight and upright.

[Jeff Sichoe]

I just give it heaps of herbs and sorta tap the front brake

[Tazz]

After spending months on the same steed doing uturns, zigzagging through traffic, riding around tram tracks and cobbles in rain and ice I fucking dislocated my knee on my last day in the carpark for this shit! Fuck you life! :lol:

My knees are shit anyway and i just tweaked it catching my toe on a cobble coming to a stop.

Even worse the camera man was busy talking to some new skirt at work and missed it. ACC here I come? XD

[pritch]

I just give it heaps of herbs and sorta tap the front brake

Yeah. Would that explain all the missing teeth in your avatar? :innocent:

[Big Dog]

I just give it heaps of herbs and sorta tap the front brake
That's a pretty good way to start a street fighter project.

You may get away with it a few times but sooner or later...

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[rastuscat]

That's a pretty good way to start a street fighter project.

You may get away with it a few times but sooner or later...

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Yes. Front brake is not your friend when u turning.

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[rastuscat]

So there. Raspberry.

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[WristTwister]

90 degree turns are a better place to start than U-turns. Then string 2 90degree turns together.

U-turn like a baus: Left foot down, bars turned right to lock or near lock, weight out, right foot will feather rear brake, front brake is no-go zone turn your head to focus on your U turn exit point, and release clutch to grip point and...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLxMljsXDDM

[george formby]

Interestin vid...... I dabble in motogymkhana and usually keep the throttle constant and use the rear brake to control the speed and tightness of the turn and stand the bike up again. Only one thing to think about, on the brake you turn, off the brake, you straighten up. Much easier than trying to balance the clutch, throttle and brakes.

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[EJK]

Interestin vid...... I dabble in motogymkhana and usually keep the throttle constant and use the rear brake to control the speed and tightness of the turn and stand the bike up again. Only one thing to think about, on the brake you turn, off the brake, you straighten up. Much easier than trying to balance the clutch, throttle and brakes.

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I saw that video the other day too. My favorite part is from 2:11. They should demonstrate that during one of the Ride Forever courses!!

[Maha]

Oh no, did I see the disputed 'Bum Steering' technique... at 53 seconds?

[WristTwister]

Peter Elliot challenged Shortland Street star Pua Magasiva to #BeABetterRide and attempt a U-turn. His entertaining video can be seen on the book of faces here:
https://www.facebook.com/puamagasivafan/videos/652413418251573/