Well, that woke me up...

[Grumph]

6.6 around Hanmer Springs brought back memories i'd just as soon forget thanks. Long rolling one with everything rattling. No damage apparent here.
Bet there's some slips inland though - been quite a bit of rain in there.

[mashman]

We had the house shaking and things falling off shelves in Whitby. Mattress on the floor with a few jaded kids in case of aftershocks. Hope ya'll is well doon there.

[Grumph]

Looking at the GNS site, there's a flock of the bastards between canty and wgtn. Hope it's not the precursor to the alpine fault going.

[AllanB]

Shit is heading up and down the islands.............

It's gonna ............

[Moi]

Felt in Auckland - house creaked and groaned, lights swung... was a rolling motion...

[mashman]

Looking at the GNS site, there's a flock of the bastards between canty and wgtn. Hope it's not the precursor to the alpine fault going.

STFU don't give it any ideas.

[Grumph]

Wouldn't want to be between Kaikoura and Blenheim, they're taking a battering. Only feeling the 6.0 and above here but you know when a smaller one has hit as the windows rattle quietly.

[mulletman]

Long rolling fairly gentle out Rolly , new then that people somewhere else just got hammered :eek5::weep:

[WNJ]

Felt one the TRON at work just after 12, ( Quake in Taumranui ) was a good long rumble ,

[slofox]

Didn't feel nuffink. Slept through it all.:zzzz:

[Shadowjack]

Slow rock'nroll out here. As always, was waiting for it to ramp up, but it didn't.
Got my bro' in Hanmer...
And, yeah, you don't need reminders.

[Big Dog]

Well that explains the odd shaking sensation from the bed as I was just drifting off.

Not quite strong enough to put my finger on what it was, but enough I wondered if I had poured my night cap too stiff.


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[T.W.R]

Like a dingy tied at wharf rolling with the waves here....heard the bugger coming though.
Looks like the Leader road is well fucked :no:

[Grumph]

Didn't feel nuffink. Slept through it all.:zzzz:

Being a pensioner is tiring - my wife did that too, LOL


Like a dingy tied at wharf rolling with the waves here....heard the bugger coming though.
Looks like the Leader road is well fucked :no:

It won't be the only one. Access inland will be hard. Wonder what the Arthurs Pass and Lewis pass are like.

I see the initial 6.6 has been upgraded and it looks as though Wellington got a good shake up. Ferry terminal damage is serious though.

[BuzzardNZ]

I see the initial 6.6 has been upgraded and it looks as though Wellington got a good shake up. Ferry terminal damage is serious though.

We certainly did. Not too pleasant being woken up to one that big. Had some pretty decent aftershocks too ( and they're still happening ).

[Akzle]

Cause I'm praying for rain, and. I'm praying for tidal waves . I wanna see the ground give way. I wanna watch it all go down...

vive la erth

[T.W.R]

It won't be the only one. Access inland will be hard. Wonder what the Arthurs Pass and Lewis pass are like.

I see the initial 6.6 has been upgraded and it looks as though Wellington got a good shake up. Ferry terminal damage is serious though.

They're saying a dual event now....Hamner & Seddon
There's a monster slip around the Kaikoura tunnels.
The geo-boffins will rubbing their paws & getting all excited over this one

[mashman]

Maybe the guys doing exercises in Murchison (http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/73792057/International-defence-force-exercise-in-Murchison) will be re-deployed to a real life scenario that they were training for.

[TheDemonLord]

It woke my Daughter up - I didn't feel a thing

[Grumph]

Cause I'm praying for rain, and. I'm praying for tidal waves . I wanna see the ground give way. I wanna watch it all go down...

vive la erth

Move to Wellington - and gamble on a short term lease....

[swarfie]

We flew in from Melbourne last night at midnight and had to fly around a bit while they checked out the Aucks runway. All good, so landed and felt piss all. Listened to talk back radio (yeah I'm an old bugger) on the way home to the Tron and there was a load of Ducklanders ringing in and talking/complaining about the shake. FFS. The show host was cutting them a bit short so he could hear from the real affected people. We got told on the plane it was a 7.2 and the radio was saying 6.6. There were plenty of people that rang in to say that MUST be wrong and by the time we got home they'd uprated it to 7.5. Scary shit for those at or close to the epi-centre. Hope your nerves have settled a bit Grumph...get back in that shed ;)

[pzkpfw]

Does this give anyone an idea?

[cruxis]

Anyone reckon State highway 1 around kaikoura will be open by christmas hoildays ? Looking at the massive amount of slips The first week be used making safe to work in the area. Before they even begin to start on removal.

I reckon it wont be open by then.

[F5 Dave]

I slept through it but sirens woke me. And the visitors from the lowlands a little after that.

I did go downstairs to tie the bikes. I've been working on the street so was one of the only nights I haven't had it secured with a tiedown from a handlebar to ceiling. Typical. Fortunately we didn't get much here.


So when is Crasher going to post pictures from his lounge room? Oh the hu. . . bikemanity.

[Grumph]

Anyone reckon State highway 1 around kaikoura will be open by christmas hoildays ? Looking at the massive amount of slips The first week be used making safe to work in the area. Before they even begin to start on removal.

I reckon it wont be open by then.

I reckon you'll still be travelling via the West Coast and Arthurs Pass at Christmas.
I don't know if the RO/RO facilities at Lyttelton are still serviceable, I'd assume someone will be asking today....They haven't been used for years to my knowledge.

Couple of fairings fell down in the barn, they were free anyway, LOL.

[98tls]

This will take some fixin....

[EJK]

This will take some fixin....

Terrible for logistics companies. Hope this event doesn't impact NZ tourism too much.

[jasonu]

I slept through it but sirens woke me. And the visitors from the lowlands a little after that.

I did go downstairs to tie the bikes. I've been working on the street so was one of the only nights I haven't had it secured with a tiedown from a handlebar to ceiling. Typical. Fortunately we didn't get much here.


So when is Crasher going to post pictures from his lounge room? Oh the hu. . . bikemanity.

Dave 4 bottles of vino before bedtime will make anyone sleep through anything...
Glad you are OK mate.

[ellipsis]

This will take some fixin....


...nah...John and Jerry have said ...'everything will be all right'...'that will buff out', they say...'as soon as', they said...'just look how quick we were with Chch', they added...

[Grumph]

...nah...John and Jerry have said ...'everything will be all right'...'that will buff out', they say...'as soon as', they said...'just look how quick we were with Chch', they added...

They also said there was plenty of money in the kitty to fix ChCh....If you say it often enough it must be right - right ?

[pete376403]

Wasn't violent as such in Upper Hutt but it did go on for long time. No damage, went out to the garage and the two bikes are still upright. At least it got Trump off the front page.

[sidecar bob]

Apparently we are world news. One of my clients that immigrated from Ireland a few years ago switched his phone on this morning to six missed calls from back home making sure he was ok. That was the first he had heard of it.

[mossy1200]

Had only just finished a 70 hr week after high water and broken sewer main then shaky. Now in for another week of fun times.

[Grumph]

Apparently we are world news. One of my clients that immigrated from Ireland a few years ago switched his phone on this morning to six missed calls from back home making sure he was ok. That was the first he had heard of it.

Normally go into my emails very early. Message there from a customer who's in Bali asking after his bikes and us - and he knew more than I did at that point.

[NordieBoy]

Lewis is closed at Springs Junction.
But only a few rocks on the road apparently.

[MD]

Anyone reckon State highway 1 around kaikoura will be open by christmas hoildays ? Looking at the massive amount of slips The first week be used making safe to work in the area. Before they even begin to start on removal.

I reckon it wont be open by then.

We were all about to book ferry tickets for our annual South Island ride in 2 weeks time. One of us heard the West Coast road near Punakaiki is also closed due to a slip. Can't find mention of it on Stuff. Anyone heard aboiut the West Coast?

Anyways we've decided it would be rude to go on a fun ride when the locals are suffering. Not that we would actually be able to get south beyond Picton at this stage. Kaikoura slips may take months to clear. Remember how many months the Manawatu Gorge was out a few years back from just one big slip.

Shakes were up there on the scary rectum scale here at Kapiti. Doubt many of us will sleep well tonight. Just pleased I wasn't in that wobbly 16 floor building we call work.

Edit- just checked NZTA. It's a Sept. slip at Meybille Bay down to one lane only.

[ellipsis]

...It's just a glitch in Paradise...broken towns need to sell fuel and hamburgers and shit to carry on...don't cancel anything...

[AllanB]

Anyone reckon State highway 1 around kaikoura will be open by christmas hoildays ? Looking at the massive amount of slips The first week be used making safe to work in the area. Before they even begin to start on removal.

I reckon it wont be open by then.

Nope. It's not just clearing the slip there are parts when the coast/road have gone.

[ellipsis]

...months...

[Kickaha]

...months...

They've got till the 24th of December when I head through to Wanagnui to sort it out

[Madness]

They've got till the 24th of December when I head through to Wanagnui to sort it out

http://www.pacship.co.nz/uploads/PacSchedDownload.pdf

[Laava]

We were all about to book ferry tickets for our annual South Island ride in 2 weeks time. One of us heard the West Coast road near Punakaiki is also closed due to a slip. Can't find mention of it on Stuff. Anyone heard aboiut the West Coast?

Anyways we've decided it would be rude to go on a fun ride when the locals are suffering. Not that we would actually be able to get south beyond Picton at this stage. Kaikoura slips may take months to clear. Remember how many months the Manawatu Gorge was out a few years back from just one big slip.

Shakes were up there on the scary rectum scale here at Kapiti. Doubt many of us will sleep well tonight. Just pleased I wasn't in that wobbly 16 floor building we call work.

Edit- just checked NZTA. It's a Sept. slip at Meybille Bay down to one lane only.

I am heading down for our annual ride crossing over 5 dec. we all booked already for six bikes but seems like the wrong thing to do now? We are going west coast anyway but no fixed agenda really. Maybe rainbow and molesworth.

[Coldrider]

Picton to Blenheim now open.
Lewis Pass open 7am to 7pm only and single lane in places.
Arthur's pass unconfirmed rumours of some damage.
Wairau Valley to Murchison is going to be a very busy road for a long time.
For those going to the Burt above is the way if not the entire West Coast.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Big mess. Big mess in my undies too. Kept me awake for the GP though! Pretty wobbly 5th floor.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/NBROnline/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1253421208012273

[Grumph]

...It's just a glitch in Paradise...broken towns need to sell fuel and hamburgers and shit to carry on...don't cancel anything...

This is truth. If you were coming down, come down. You may have to use some interesting route variations but you'll see more of some beautiful country.

Those places need your tourist dollar - badly.

Spend it here rather than possibly going overseas.

[jasonu]

Spend it here rather than possibly going overseas.

Email that to Jonkey. It could be Unzudds new tourism slogan.

[awayatc]

Most of the truck traffic on ferry goes to and from christchurch....
With SH1 out if action for quite some time one could only have wished for some alternative way of transporting all those containers. ...

Shame christchurch hasn't got a port....
Shame there is no water connecting north and south islands
Shame we haven't got ferries and ships etc....

[Grumph]

Most of the truck traffic on ferry goes to and from christchurch....
With SH1 out if action for quite some time one could only have wished for some alternative way of transporting all those containers. ...

Shame christchurch hasn't got a port....
Shame there is no water connecting north and south islands
Shame we haven't got ferries and ships etc....

I mentioned the RO/RO terminal at Lyttelton earlier. saw a mention of coastal shipping in a news conference too.
Doubt if there's a ship in NZ waters at present free to do it - and doubt if the interisland ferries would want to.
Maybe the one which normally carries mainly rail ?
A ship or ships would have to be sourced and leased - at least a month before anything would be running.

If madness' link was to Pacifica's RO/RO operation, it'll have been fully booked up for months as from yesterday...and only two ships I think anyway.
Bet they're ringing round worldwide for another.
For bike transport it works best ChCh-Auckland. Know guys who've used it for Puke Classic festival and the reverse, guys who've come down for the SoT.
Ship the van and fly at the last minute.

[Grumph]

Email that to Jonkey. It could be Unzudds new tourism slogan.

Well he's going to be spending our money in the SI.....

I know you hated Helen with a passion - but she holidayed in NZ. If there was a track available to walk, she walked it - and was happy to be seen doing it for tourism. And seemed to enjoy it too...
What message does John Key's holidays in Hawaii send as Minister of Tourism ?

[Bass]

I am heading down for our annual ride crossing over 5 dec. we all booked already for six bikes but seems like the wrong thing to do now? We are going west coast anyway but no fixed agenda really. Maybe rainbow and molesworth.

Similar situation - heading home to Invercargill for Xmas. Mum is 92, so probably not too many more opportunities.
Does anyone know what condition Molesworth is in?

[Cosmik de Bris]

Did I hear the guy from the Insurance Providers Association, or whatever it's called, on the radio saying that the Christchurch experience with insurers was good?

I pity those people in Kaikoura.

[EJK]

Poor cows. Their lives are at steak.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-earthquake/86460020/whats-happened-to-the-cows-stranded-on-a-quake-island

Jokes aside, it's kinda sad.

[sidecar bob]

What message does John Key's holidays in Hawaii send as Minister of Tourism ?

That his idea of a good time is different to Helens??:bleh:

[sidecar bob]

Most of the truck traffic on ferry goes to and from christchurch....
With SH1 out if action for quite some time one could only have wished for some alternative way of transporting all those containers. ...

Shame christchurch hasn't got a port....
Shame there is no water connecting north and south islands
Shame we haven't got ferries and ships etc....

Im not sure why we have thousands of trucks destroying the roads when rail & sea options are available.
Maybe its got to do with the massive amount of RUC's the truckers pay.

[Laava]

Similar situation - heading home to Invercargill for Xmas. Mum is 92, so probably not too many more opportunities.
Does anyone know what condition Molesworth is in?

Closed until further notice due to...
http://www.doc.govt.nz/molesworth

[neels]

This isn't the first time the coast road has been closed, and it won't be the last, it may take a bit longer to get fixed this time though...have done the route from blenheim via the wairau valley a couple of times, a bit tedious and a bit longer but all on pretty good roads.

Just another temporary arrangement, like the broken roads in christchurch.....

[Akzle]

Poor cows. Their lives are at steak.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-earthquake/86460020/whats-happened-to-the-cows-stranded-on-a-quake-island

Jokes aside, it's kinda sad.

good to see someone started a "save the cows" kickstarter!!

unfortunately for many of them, they probably have life insurance and it'll be cheaper shooting them.

[Akzle]

Im not sure why we have thousands of trucks destroying the roads when rail & sea options are available.
Maybe its got to do with the massive amount of RUC's the truckers pay.

and a weak rail union! harrumf!

[sidecar bob]

Good too see the Chinese tourists were safely evacuated by a helicopter chartered by the Chinese Embassy. Fuck everyone else though, as long as their own are safe.
Do these people even have part of a soul?

[EJK]

Good too see the Chinese tourists were safely evacuated by a helicopter chartered by the Chinese Embassy. Fuck everyone else though, as long as their own are safe.
Do these people even have part of a soul?

Yeah! IKR? Surely they must have had some room in the cargo bay?? Those cows ain't gonna rescue themselves you know!

[jellywrestler]

it may take a bit longer to get fixed this time though..

they won't want to push the dirt into the sea so where the hell are they going to truck it too? even then they will only work on one side of the slip at each end at a time as then they can chip away at it and truck it away, look how long one slip took in the manawatu gorge, this won't be sorted for a year if they can't push the shit in the drink

[Moi]

they won't want to push the dirt into the sea so where the hell are they going to truck it too? even then they will only work on one side of the slip at each end at a time as then they can chip away at it and truck it away, look how long one slip took in the manawatu gorge, this won't be sorted for a year if they can't push the shit in the drink

If the road and rail weren't there, that's exactly where the land slip would have gone...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Good too see the Chinese tourists were safely evacuated by a helicopter chartered by the Chinese Embassy. Fuck everyone else though, as long as their own are safe.
Do these people even have part of a soul?

You'd be the first cunt to start moaning if it was Kiwis stuck in China, and our team rescued the locals first.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah good on them. Actually really helps lighten the rescue load.

[jellywrestler]

If the road and rail weren't there, that's exactly where the land slip would have gone...

yip, but watch this space....

[neels]

they won't want to push the dirt into the sea so where the hell are they going to truck it too?

I thought exactly the same thing, that there will be some stupid rules that they can't just chuck it over the side of the road, and then I had this thought also...


If the road and rail weren't there, that's exactly where the land slip would have gone...

And in the case of the streams further along the coast that regularly flood the road, that's exactly where it still goes.

[jasonu]

Yeah! IKR? Surely they must have had some room in the cargo bay?? Those cows ain't gonna rescue themselves you know!

But it kept those useress cunts off the road...which is summat you lot frequently whine about aye...

[Grumph]

they won't want to push the dirt into the sea so where the hell are they going to truck it too? even then they will only work on one side of the slip at each end at a time as then they can chip away at it and truck it away, look how long one slip took in the manawatu gorge, this won't be sorted for a year if they can't push the shit in the drink

I think they'll have to put it in the sea but at chosen places. There's already several places along that road where they've reclaimed land and made scenic viewing points. Bound to be several bays where the road and rail could be moved out away from the cliffs.

[Grumph]

Yeah good on them. Actually really helps lighten the rescue load.

It's a win - win. We didn't pay to get them out and it's more food and water for Kaikoura - and less chemical toilets too.

[jellywrestler]

It's a win - win. We didn't pay to get them out and it's more food and water for Kaikoura - and less chemical toilets too.

when they asked who wants to go first put their hands up, they one, cause they all put up their selfie sticks...

[Gremlin]

Yeah good on them. Actually really helps lighten the rescue load.
Indeed. Why spend more time transporting in more supplies, when you can get say, half the people out, let them make their own way from chch, they can sort flights, accom, vehicles etc. Less people to deal with in the crisis zone.

[Kickaha]

Im not sure why we have thousands of trucks destroying the roads when rail & sea options are available.
Rail and sea are slower

[awayatc]

Im not sure why we have thousands of trucks destroying the roads when rail & sea options are available.
Maybe its got to do with the massive amount of RUC's the truckers pay.

We must be the only island nation on earth that is actively trying to be ship less....

Nearly there

(Chinese outfit owns Pacifica now....)

Criminally ludicrous

[awayatc]

Imagine all those ferry trucks going through the Lewis.....

Plod will be aiming their radar guns at people passing the chicanes.....

Yeeha

[Blackbird]

I thought exactly the same thing, that there will be some stupid rules that they can't just chuck it over the side of the road, and then I had this thought also...


When there was a big slip on the Thames-Coromandel coast road a few years ago, I'm pretty sure that the council simply gave a waiver and all the rocks and crap were dumped in the tide at a suitable location just down the road.

[R650R]

Im not sure why we have thousands of trucks destroying the roads when rail & sea options are available.
Maybe its got to do with the massive amount of RUC's the truckers pay.

It's more to do with the cost of land and storage. I started a whole another thread about this awhile back. Basically the cost per km of road/rail/coastal shipping is very similar in NZ.
With rail and coastal shipping the freight needs to be devanned/double handled/offloaded before delivery, this means more staff, time and cost. And the cost is only going up every day with osh compliance and other factors.
Without trucks many of our roads would still deteriotate due to construction, eg pumice base around taupo area gets munted everytime it rains hard. There would still be a lot of work required but no one to pay for it....
The greenies say we don't pay our fair share anyway so it seems a false economy to have an alledged conspiracy where a govt takes in 'donations' more than the cost of looking after the donor......

[R650R]

they won't want to push the dirt into the sea so where the hell are they going to truck it too? even then they will only work on one side of the slip at each end at a time as then they can chip away at it and truck it away, look how long one slip took in the manawatu gorge, this won't be sorted for a year if they can't push the shit in the drink

If you've got a few million cubic metres of quality soil.basefill/whatever that might be of use somewwhere else makes sense to take it somewhere it might get used. Even if you just pushed it into the sea it wouldnt be a simple task. You'd still need a lot of extra heavy mobile plant, skilled operators and a workable plan. It could alter coastal erosion apetterns and undermine a seperater good piece of road further along.

[R650R]

We must be the only island nation on earth that is actively trying to be ship less....

Nearly there

(Chinese outfit owns Pacifica now....)

Criminally ludicrous

Just wait til NorthPort becomes an economic reality... Tauranga as already just signed up that new big Maersk Container ship that is too big for (most) other ports at moment....

[mashman]

I think they'll have to put it in the sea but at chosen places. There's already several places along that road where they've reclaimed land and made scenic viewing points. Bound to be several bays where the road and rail could be moved out away from the cliffs.

Awesome sauce. More fishing points for tourists.

[sidecar bob]

You'd be the first cunt to start moaning if it was Kiwis stuck in China, and our team rescued the locals first.
Do ya rekon I would?
It never occurred to me that disaster relief/rescue should be dished out on a racial preference basis until today, but I'll be looking out for it in the future.
Point is, they hooked their own out & fucked off, leaving everybody else to go & get fucked. Its not the Kiwi way, but then theyre not Kiwis.

[sidecar bob]

If you've got a few million cubic metres of quality soil.basefill/whatever that might be of use somewwhere else makes sense to take it somewhere it might get used. Even if you just pushed it into the sea it wouldnt be a simple task. You'd still need a lot of extra heavy mobile plant, skilled operators and a workable plan. It could alter coastal erosion apetterns and undermine a seperater good piece of road further along.

They have the base material right on hand to build a road further from the base of the cliff by using the material that is currently causing the problem. But im no roading engineer.

[Akzle]

Do ya rekon I would?
Point is, they hooked their own out & fucked off, leaving everybody else to go & get fucked. Its not the Kiwi way, but then theyre not Kiwis.

are you ever not uninvitedly-racist to anyone not-white?

[sidecar bob]

are you ever not uninvitedly-racist to anyone not-white?

Hows that racist? The racists are the ones that selected a certain race to rescue & left the rest, That's racist, not the guy that's pointing it out.
But then theyre not white, so how could they possibly be racist?
What part of their self serving ignorance do you find appealing?

[Akzle]

Good too see the Chinese tourists were safely evacuated by a helicopter chartered by the Chinese Embassy. Fuck everyone else though, as long as their own are safe.
Do these people even have part of a soul?
≠ "not racist"


Hows that racist? The racists are the ones that selected a certain race to rescue & left the rest, That's racist, not the guy that's pointing it out.
But then theyre not white, so how could they possibly be racist?

Funnily enough "the governments" are "responsible" for their "citizens". the same shit will/has/does happen all over the world.

tsunami in bali? (or wherever the fuck it was that whatever the fuck it was that happened) NZ consul deals with -dun-dun-dun- NZ citizens; earthquake in japan, america evacuates -dun-dun-dun- american citizens.

it's not racist. it's just one of the "benefits" of signing up to be a "citizen"

we don't have the one world jewvernment just yet, ol' buddy.
and even you (frequently) feel the need to differentiate yourself from other humans, based mostly on your melanin deficiency and the relative sphericity of their eyes...

[Madness]

I think you'll find that they probably uplifted Chinese people based on their nationality rather than their ethnicity or the shape of their eyes.

[jasonu]

Made the news here
http://www.ktvz.com/news/national-world/thousands-stranded-in-new-zealand-after-earthquakes-flooding/158059587

[Crasherfromwayback]

Do ya rekon I would?
but then theyre not Kiwis.

You're as racist as any cunt here.


are you ever not uninvitedly-racist to anyone not-white?


Hows that racist? The racists are the ones that selected a certain race to rescue & left the rest, That's racist, not the guy that's pointing it out.
But then theyre not white, so how could they possibly be racist?
What part of their self serving ignorance do you find appealing?


≠ "not racist"



Funnily enough "the governments" are "responsible" for their "citizens". the same shit will/has/does happen all over the world.

tsunami in bali? (or wherever the fuck it was that whatever the fuck it was that happened) NZ consul deals with -dun-dun-dun- NZ citizens; earthquake in japan, america evacuates -dun-dun-dun- american citizens.

it's not racist. it's just one of the "benefits" of signing up to be a "citizen"

we don't have the one world jewvernment just yet, ol' buddy.
and even you (frequently) feel the need to differentiate yourself from other humans, based mostly on your melanin deficiency and the relative sphericity of their eyes...


I think you'll find that they probably uplifted Chinese people based on their nationality rather than their ethnicity or the shape of their eyes.

And there we have it. Racism 101.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What's with the Red Bob? Strike a nerve, or was it to match your neck? Thought you were above that.

[Laava]

I was talkng to one of my neighbours today who, up until very recently, was the manager of Mainfreight up here in whangas. Anyway, as a consequence of the ferries not moving freight, the depots in wellies and picton choke up with all the freight that still goes as far as it can. Then when the flow starts to move again it is the stuff that was at the depot first that ends up being the last to ship out. Lots of angry phone calls ensue etc

[Akzle]

What's with the Red Bob? Strike a nerve, or was it to match your neck? Thought you were above that.

he must be on a roll. i thought it was just me. he's been dying to give me red back for ages.

[Grumph]

I was talkng to one of my neighbours today who, up until very recently, was the manager of Mainfreight up here in whangas. Anyway, as a consequence of the ferries not moving freight, the depots in wellies and picton choke up with all the freight that still goes as far as it can. Then when the flow starts to move again it is the stuff that was at the depot first that ends up being the last to ship out. Lots of angry phone calls ensue etc

Wouldn't like to be the railfreight guy who is presumably now ringing the consigners of the containers stuck on the marooned train.....
From what you could see on TV, it's not in an easy position to crane anything off.

[Crasherfromwayback]

he must be on a roll. i thought it was just me. he's been dying to give me red back for ages.

Pretty fucking lame really. Gets called out...lashes out. Much like...Old Trump! He's a red necked thin skinned racist too.

[sidecar bob]

Pretty fucking lame really. Gets called out...lashes out. Much like...Old Trump! He's a red necked thin skinned racist too.
Really? Polite disagreement & you perceive it as lashing out? Well we can hardly take your version of things very seriously in future can we?
It was the Chinese that got called out, I simply disagreed with your post, that's what the rep system is for isint it? Nothing abusive, just don't agree. Pot, kettle, both of you are red rep kings.

[ellipsis]

...I have a yellow in the shed with #46 on it...

[buggerit]

I think you'll find that they probably uplifted Chinese people based on their nationality rather than their ethnicity or the shape of their eyes.

Nah, their uniformity of size and the ability to stack probably had more to do with it;)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Pot, kettle, both of you are red rep kings.

Could you give me an example?

[Katman]

I'm just gunna leave this here....

https://realnewsaustralia.com/2016/11/14/was-nz-earthquake-man-made/

[R650R]

Wouldn't like to be the railfreight guy who is presumably now ringing the consigners of the containers stuck on the marooned train.....
From what you could see on TV, it's not in an easy position to crane anything off.

(Group email - send to all)
Dear Valued customer, due to recent seismic events some freight items have been delayed in transit between depots.
If you feel some of your shit is important and you need it withen the next six months then please lodge a written claim withen seven days.
If your unsure where your freight is so are we, please ring our 0800 number and leave your detaiuls.



If the shit was valuable enough someone like Mammoet or Svitzer could prob park a barge in close and crane them out, cost megabucks tho....


This doco is worth watching if you have the time


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ3Ly1BF11A

[pritch]

...I have a yellow in the shed with #46 on it...

I've got a helmet like that in the next room.

[Hemi Makutu]

Did that 'moon unit zappa' bloke predict this one too?

[Hemi Makutu]

Pretty fucking lame really. Gets called out...lashes out. Much like...Old Trump! He's a red necked thin skinned racist too.

Hey, its there to be used, but - surely when its relevant to an actual post, not just as a 'mean girls' type hate deal?

[Grumph]

(Group email - send to all)
Dear Valued customer, due to recent seismic events some freight items have been delayed in transit between depots.
If you feel some of your shit is important and you need it withen the next six months then please lodge a written claim withen seven days.
If your unsure where your freight is so are we, please ring our 0800 number and leave your detaiuls.

If the shit was valuable enough someone like Mammoet or Svitzer could prob park a barge in close and crane them out, cost megabucks tho....


The old Rapaki floating crane which the Lyttelton harbour Board sold North - not sure whether she's in Wgtn or Auckland - was used post WW2 in the islands to recover a lot of stuff. Shallow draft too. Probably have to dig an approach channel and the whole thing would be weather dependant with no real shelter on that coast.
Could be done with what we have here in NZ. If they change the route of the rail line it might be the only way to recover the loco and rolling stock...

[Tazz]

Going to be a quiet summer for tourism. We've been pretty lucky as far as bad luck goes with teh destruction vs death toll.

[trufflebutter]

The most pleasing aspect which follows such a traumatic and horrific event like this and the Christchurch earthquake, is the generosity shown from Kiwi's all over NZ to those directly affected. It doesn't matter who you are/where you come from/what you have/what you don't have, in a situation like this - a large percentage of the country helps those in need however they can - just like as Pike River and Christchurch.

There was a Motorcycle fund raiser in 2011 for CH-CH and there was also one for Pike river months earlier from some South Island bikers.

Those discussing racial bullshit on this thread? Fuckwits - get over yourselves - and red repping each other? laughable to the extreme, you people are not worth a pinch of shit.

[Voltaire]

Hey, its there to be used, but - surely when its relevant to an actual post, not just as a 'mean girls' type hate deal?

Proper motorcycle forums don't have it but your probably banned from those :bleh:
I never use the red one as its like " I'm going tell Mummy":niceone:

[Ocean1]

Love it.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/86510978/ingenious-farmer-checks-his-stock-during-flood

[Moi]

Nothing to do with tectonic plates, or very full moons...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11749215

:weird::facepalm:


They could do one of their famous "throw the money on the floor" collections to assist those along the Kaikoura coast... :whistle:

[neels]

They could do one of their famous "throw the money on the floor" collections to assist those along the Kaikoura coast... :whistle:
Nah, they only do that when bishop brian needs to redecorate his church or buy a new car or something.

Bishop brian should have a chat with Stephen Fry.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5RtDpva7nE

[EJK]

On a hidesight, those surviving cows will be pardoned from going to the slaughterhouse.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86512978/farmer-promises-rescued-quake-island-cows-wont-be-slaughtered

And there is PETA (who did absolutely nothing) saying to the farmers... "PETA is calling on the farmer to allow these animals to live out the rest of their lives in peace at a sanctuary, instead of being torn into pieces,"

Bullshit useless armchair general PETA.

[jasonu]

Love it.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/86510978/ingenious-farmer-checks-his-stock-during-flood

Looks like summat the Steadman brothers would do.

[jasonu]

Nothing to do with tectonic plates, or very full moons...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11749215

:weird::facepalm:


They could do one of their famous "throw the money on the floor" collections to assist those along the Kaikoura coast... :whistle:

He forgot to blame trump too.

[onearmedbandit]

Nothing to do with tectonic plates, or very full moons...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11749215

:weird::facepalm:


They could do one of their famous "throw the money on the floor" collections to assist those along the Kaikoura coast... :whistle:

Wonder when he'll come do a sermon or two down here. Bet he'd be surprised at the turn out...

[Moi]

Peaceful Cantabrians attend sermon by some joker who calls himself a bishop...

https://grist.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/angry_mob_simpsons.jpg

[Grumph]

Love it.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/86510978/ingenious-farmer-checks-his-stock-during-flood

Might just be rural legend but Bill Hamilton is reputed to have done much the same at Irishmans Creek way back.

[Akzle]

...(((raving jesus freaks)))...

well, actually...
babys, not being cognisant of god's love, jesus' sacrifice, and repentant for any sins they comit, can and will be damned to burn in hellfires and damnation for all eternity, cos god saves and jesus loves. or some shit.

[Paul in NZ]

and - this is my office...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86505981/Second-Wellington-building-cracks-after-magnitude-7-5-quake

prob not as bad as reported as its actually 3 buildings with joints between designed to rupture. shaky old thing all the same..

So working from home for a while...

[yokel]

Maybe?


https://youtu.be/r-daJalr724

[Crasherfromwayback]

Maybe?

]

See post #97 numbnuts.

[Moi]

Maybe?

Try post #107 for the homegrown variety...

[Moi]

well, actually...
babys, not being cognisant of god's love, jesus' sacrifice, and repentant for any sins they comit, can and will be damned to burn in hellfires and damnation for all eternity, cos god saves and jesus loves. or some shit.

Think the word you might be looking for is "limbo"...

[ellipsis]

Think the word you might be looking for is "limbo"...


...probably purgatory would fit the bill, too...

[Ocean1]

Looks like summat the Steadman brothers would do.

Steadman as in Shipbuilders Ltd?


Might just be rural legend but Bill Hamilton is reputed to have done much the same at Irishmans Creek way back.

Driving home up Marsden st in about a foot of water after the big floods in the Hutt in '74(?) I was passed by a 16ft alloy jet with some sort of V8 in it.

He was taking kids for laps of the block. As you do.

[jasonu]

Steadman as in Shipbuilders Ltd?

.

Dunno about that.
Steadmans as in legendary bucket racers and pretty much anything else with a motor and other miscellaneous stuff laying about in the barn builders.

[Ocean1]

Dunno about that.
Steadmans as in legendary bucket racers and pretty much anything else with a motor and other miscellaneous stuff laying about in the barn builders.

Not familiar. But they sound like good people.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck me....

<iframe width="1527" height="955" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oqGPvmjxBNg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Maha]

Maybe?



Maybe not, they are Seismic Surveying not blasting but don't let facts get in the way of your deluded conspiracy bullshit.

[ellipsis]

Maybe not, they are Seismic Surveying not blasting but don't let facts get in the way of your deluded conspiracy bullshit.



...conspiracy or delusion, subsea, seismic surveying entails lots of blasting...fact...

[onearmedbandit]

Fuck me....

>

Small world, that video was taken by a member here.

[Grumph]

Fuck me....

Be a good time to run the old Kaikoura Trial...the road run was always part of it. One long observed section now.

[neels]

Fuck me....
Looks like a sunday drive through east christchurch.

[seattle smitty]

Liked your video, Crasher, found myself humming, "Day after day, de whole place slipping away . . . "

I understand little shakes are a part of ordinary life for y'all. Same thing is true in Anchorage, Alaska, where my family lived when I was a little guy, and you might like this yarn that came out of the 9.2-rated Good Friday earthquake in 1964.

As the story goes, on that day a tourist up from the Lower 48 was visiting a friend in Anchorage when the earth began to tremble. "No sweat," her friend reassured her, "these things happen all the time here." But very quickly the shaking builds to where they are thrown to the ground, and great fissures open around them. (The main street of the city dropped twelve feet, the control tower at the airport collapsed, eighty houses in an upscale development slid off into Cook Inlet).

When the quake finally subsides, the visitor and her friend slowly and warily get to their feet. The visitor, still shaking with fear, finally gets her voice back and with considerable anger blurts out, "I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PEOPLE CAN STAND HAVING THIS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME!!!"

[Moi]

... As the story goes, on that day a tourist up from the Lower 48 was visiting a friend in Anchorage when the earth began to tremble ... "I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PEOPLE CAN STAND HAVING THIS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME!!!"

Wonder if the visitor came from tornado alley?

[R650R]

Fuck me....


Excellent vid, truly shows the widespread extent of devastation. Even either side on the unwrecked bits all those cracks are going to let water under the surface and wreak havoc.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Excellent vid, truly shows the widespread extent of devastation. Even either side on the unwrecked bits all those cracks are going to let water under the surface and wreak havoc.

Yep. Totally fucked.

[jellywrestler]

Yep. Totally fucked. interesting that it appears nowhere that any of the main road has dissappeared from below completely, just part of some have slumped or being filled from above.
there's no doubt on some of those places through the hundalees a huge amount of groundwork will be needed though

[F5 Dave]

I couldn't watch the rest of that, I kept wanting to turn the tablet so I could see more than the dash and the pillar

[98tls]

interesting that it appears nowhere that any of the main road has dissappeared from below completely, just part of some have slumped or being filled from above.
there's no doubt on some of those places through the hundalees a huge amount of groundwork will be needed though

Dear oh dear eh very sad,grew up at Fernihurst (just north of the Hawkswood S bends when they were there) and spent many hours on the Hundalees when a young fella,as it was basically my back yard and in the middle of nowhere normal rules didnt apply and spent much time there on trail bikes,no rego/licence (to young to get one) etc all good way back then,Cheviot cop wrote his Cortina off chasing the old man on his 900SS around the S bends somewhere.Be nice to think the road will be fixed but doubt it.

[jellywrestler]

.Be nice to think the road will be fixed but doubt it.

it simply has to be, if they write this one off and in a few years there's a similar event further inland, think alpine fault, and the lewis pass option becomes an even bigger task to fix(remember at least here they can get machinary in easier than inland) then where is our country at?

[Moi]

... Be nice to think the road will be fixed but doubt it.


it simply has to be, if they write this one off and in a few years there's a similar event further inland, think alpine fault, and the lewis pass option becomes an even bigger task to fix(remember at least here they can get machinary in easier than inland) then where is our country at?

Agree with jellywrestler...

said this on another thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/181503-Am-I-crazy-for-thinking-this?p=1131013552#post1131013552):

I think that by next week you'll find that the government will be ready to repair the road...

Why? Kaikoura is a major tourist attraction and the road or rail there is part of the attraction and that means money coming in to the economy. What is to be seen that is as spectacular as whales and seals if you go over the Lewis Pass?

Also, if the road is not repaired what will be done about the rail line? Cut it off at Christchurch? Doubt it... Would mean building new infrastructure at Lyttelton for rail and then extending the Interislander service to Lyttelton as well, that's big money... Or you just abandon rail in the South Island altogether...

[98tls]

Certainly hope it is fixed but dunno,Kaikoura has its tourist attractions for sure but enough to warrant the repair bill? Heard a few rumors re the railway ie coming through Molesworth etc.Hope your right and the roads fixed guys.

[jellywrestler]

Certainly hope it is fixed but dunno,Kaikoura has its tourist attractions for sure but enough to warrant the repair bill? Heard a few rumors re the railway ie coming through Molesworth etc.Hope your right and the roads fixed guys.

another route would take years and years and is just a joke, look at transmission gully, twenty odd kms and it's taking six years, the majority of the existing rail link is ok and will certainlly need a good check, the rest they'll need to roll their sleeves up for but just get on with it, once the aftershocks die down.
i've heard a rumour of a tunnel from wellington to chch too

[ellipsis]

Or you just abandon the South Island altogether... [/I]


...I'm sure a lot of us down here would be happy with that deal...

[Moi]

...I'm sure a lot of us down here would be happy with that deal...

Haha... but you get to keep Gerry and John as part of that deal... :whistle:

[ellipsis]

Haha... but you get to keep Gerry and John as part of that deal... :whistle:


...they be welcome...we will have a special party for them down Waimate way...squeal...squeal...squeal....

[buggerit]

Haha... but you get to keep Gerry and John as part of that deal... :whistle:

It may be just a coincidence, but where ever there is an earthquake, we seem to see Gerry:confused:

[Paul in NZ]

I have to say - crawling home along the wellie to Kapiti coast road the other day after a rescue mission inside our building - 40 taranaki st... I looked at the hills and bluffs above the road and couldnt get out of there fast enough..

[Grumph]

If they use the technology they have been using on earthquke damaged ChCh roads it will be many years.


BUT,but, but...It's a road of National Importance!!! IE the transport lobby is screaming because they're losing money - and because they're more important than mere ChCh residents we'll see the full might of everything that can be scraped together thrown at it.
If ChCh had held enough seats to make winning them important to getting back into government we'd have seen a shitload more interest in fixing it.
Look at the West Coast - no votes in going into the mine...QED

[neels]

I have to say - crawling home along the wellie to Kapiti coast road the other day after a rescue mission inside our building - 40 taranaki st... I looked at the hills and bluffs above the road and couldnt get out of there fast enough..
You do notice those things more after a good shake, like when I parked in front of a building in waimate with a large masonry parapet on top, then decided I might move over the road instead.....

[AllanB]

I have to say - crawling home along the wellie to Kapiti coast road the other day after a rescue mission inside our building - 40 taranaki st... I looked at the hills and bluffs above the road and couldnt get out of there fast enough..

Yeah - happens. I remember holidaying up Kaiteriteri and shopping in Motuekua Jan 2011 after the September 2010 shake buggered by house - a lady in the Mitre 10 said Christchurch people? I asked how she could tell - she answered 'you lead in the door looked up and around and then allowed your kids in' ...... I was not aware I was doing that!

[Luckylegs]

It may be just a coincidence, but where ever there is an earthquake, we seem to see Gerry:confused:


Thats because he is the Minister of Earthquake Recovery.

Did you see it?

[ellipsis]

Did you see it?


...you would have to hang around a pie shop to see Gerry...

[Luckylegs]

...you would have to hang around a pie shop to see Gerry...

Too true though the question was actually for the resident moron

[R650R]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-earthquake/86629103/traffic-on-sh7-expected-to-quadruple-while-sh1-is-repaired

[R650R]

I heard the transport lobby is not losing money as they are putting up the cost of SI freight about 20% to compensate for the longer journey.

Even a 20% surcharge won't fully cover the extra costs of more wages for longer journey and extra diesel andctyre wear. Also with extra time it means lost potential freight journeys. Some trucks are doubleshifted and if it's late even once there's costs involved

[Grumph]

Don't think the inland road is going to fix everything either. Heard a resident along the road on radio saying that the last time SH1 was closed,they had buses and trucks getting jammed on the tight bends. Heavy tow outfits did well out of it.

[Stylo]

Don't think the inland road is going to fix everything either. Heard a resident along the road on radio saying that the last time SH1 was closed,they had buses and trucks getting jammed on the tight bends. Heavy tow outfits did well out of it.

Don't think the inland road is going to be able to take general traffic anytime soon either despite the sharp corners. Evidently the Army had to turn back again today with their second detachment due to slip dangers.

[98tls]

Don't think the inland road is going to be able to take general traffic anytime soon either despite the sharp corners. Evidently the Army had to turn back again today with their second detachment due to slip dangers.

As if things are not bad enough eh:wacko: Any other army no problem but our lot getting involved in..........well anything to be fair:pinch:

[Grumph]

As if things are not bad enough eh:wacko: Any other army no problem but our lot getting involved in..........well anything to be fair:pinch:

When I saw the size of the convoy, I thought, "shit have we got that many vehicles that run" - then the obvious "how many will finish up being towed?"
Good effort though.

[jellywrestler]

have they even decided which road they are going to put their resources into first?

[Grumph]

have they even decided which road they are going to put their resources into first?

Got to be the inland Kaikoura road to "relieve" Kaikoura first. Then from the looks of it, maintain the alternative route through the Lewis which is already suffering as it wasn't built for the loads.
God only knows what comes after that. Coastal shipping ?

[Moi]

Got to be the inland Kaikoura road to "relieve" Kaikoura first. Then from the looks of it, maintain the alternative route through the Lewis which is already suffering as it wasn't built for the loads.
God only knows what comes after that. Coastal shipping ?

Agree about the Inland Rd to Kaikoura - provide access for the town and allow for rebuilding/repairing. Also allow for the tourist activities to start again as soon as other infrastructure is up and running. Yes, you'll have to drive in and out on the same road but if you want to go dolphin watching then you'd do that.

Now for an outsider's point-of-view: A couple of nights ago the news showed contractors working on it from either end - a couple of father/son teams - and they seemed to now what they were doing - getting the road passable for heavy vehicles and four-wheel drive vehicles. Then along comes civil defence and the road is closed because of possible slips... so why aren't they getting on with dealing with the possible slips? I'm sure the contractors have experience to deal with slips that keep moving as you clear them and while the aftershocks continue. I don't imagine the contractors are going to put themselves at risk.

The Lewis Pass route seems to be a temporary solution - how often is that road closed in winter?

Get the road from Cheviot to Oaro open and usable - can be properly repaired over time but in the meanwhile is usable by those who live along that road. Same for the road south to Clarence.

As I said, an outsider's point-of-view... but I do wonder how much help government earthquake recovery and civil defence are? Or are they a hindrance to people getting their lives back in order and on with doing their things?

I do think that the people of Canterbury have the patience of Job...

[R650R]

Now for an outsider's point-of-view: A couple of nights ago the news showed contractors working on it from either end - a couple of father/son teams - and they seemed to now what they were doing - getting the road passable for heavy vehicles and four-wheel drive vehicles. Then along comes civil defence and the road is closed because of possible slips... so why aren't they getting on with dealing with the possible slips? I'm sure the contractors have experience to deal with slips that keep moving as you clear them and while the aftershocks continue. I don't imagine the contractors are going to put themselves at risk.


Geo engineers know their stuff pretty well these days, if it's not safe it's not safe....
I've been at a major slip on Taupo Rd minutes after it happened. Standing there you can hear the hill side creaking and crumbling even tho it looks like all that's falling has fallen. At a later date there has been substantial slips in same place. It don't take much dirt to be dead or buried alive....

[R650R]

Got to be the inland Kaikoura road to "relieve" Kaikoura first. Then from the looks of it, maintain the alternative route through the Lewis which is already suffering as it wasn't built for the loads.
God only knows what comes after that. Coastal shipping ?

Yeah inland road makes sense, hopefully someone in govt has foresight to blast the hell out of the tips of those hills on coastal road and build a tourist and truck friendly double lane super expressway along the coast.

Rail needs level ground so they will have to open up and fix the rail line anyway, so it makes sense to spend money on road that provides maitainsnce access to rail.

[Akzle]

Yeah inland road makes sense, hopefully someone in govt has foresight to blast the hell out of the tips of those hills on coastal road and build a tourist and truck friendly double lane super expressway along the coast.

Rail needs level ground so they will have to open up and fix the rail line anyway, so it makes sense to spend money on road that provides maitainsnce access to rail.

fuck yeah! flatten the fucking lot and concrete over it all! because economy!

[Stylo]

Got to be the inland Kaikoura road to "relieve" Kaikoura first. Then from the looks of it, maintain the alternative route through the Lewis which is already suffering as it wasn't built for the loads.
God only knows what comes after that. Coastal shipping ?

Coastal shipping yep.

And, realistically, that's the only viable option in the short term and vessels and shipping company's are already working on moving freight . The show has to go on .

The SH1 main trunk road won't be open for a while and rail, even longer. I'm wondering how this will effect the business operations of Kiwi-rail and their staff in the South Island seeing as how the mainline has been effectively cut-off, hmm.

Best place to plan your holiday this Christmas ? I'd say Kaikoura, should be accommodation available and they need all the help they can get ...

Thinking about swapping my road bike for a dual purpose now

[Grumph]

Yeah inland road makes sense, hopefully someone in govt has foresight to blast the hell out of the tips of those hills on coastal road and build a tourist and truck friendly double lane super expressway along the coast.

Rail needs level ground so they will have to open up and fix the rail line anyway, so it makes sense to spend money on road that provides maitainsnce access to rail.

There have been significant improvements to the coast road in recent years anyway. I drove to Wgtn in the early am a few weeks back after not having been on the road for several years. I was impressed that from the Waimak bridge to Picton was 4 hours - 1/2 hr quicker than it used to be.
All that's been lacking was the budget to do more straightening. Might be there this time.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I've been a refugee in my own city since Thursday. Left home for work, haven't been allowed back in since. Not even for five mins to grab some personal stuff and clothing. If I meet the cunt that signed off on that cunting car park after the Seddon quakes, I'm gonna kick him in the fucking balls.

[oldrider]

I've been a refugee in my own city since Thursday. Left home for work, haven't been allowed back in since. Not even for five mins to grab some personal stuff and clothing. If I meet the cunt that signed off on that cunting car park after the Seddon quakes, I'm gonna kick him in the fucking balls.

Feel your pain but alas from here it is difficult to understand what you are actually talking about? :scratch:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Feel your pain but alas from here it is difficult to understand what you are actually talking about? :scratch:

Well, if you seen the news in the last week, you may've seen the parts of Courtenay Place here in Wellington are no go zones. My apartment happens to be one of those. Not because our building is unsafe...but because the car park belonging to Readings Picture Theatures is in *Imminent danger of collapse*. So now, Wellington City Council, have deemed it safe to walk withing 20 feet of said car parking building, yet won't let us back into our building to collect any personal belongings. So...I'm rather fucked off.

[Grumph]

I've been a refugee in my own city since Thursday. Left home for work, haven't been allowed back in since. Not even for five mins to grab some personal stuff and clothing. If I meet the cunt that signed off on that cunting car park after the Seddon quakes, I'm gonna kick him in the fucking balls.

One of the perils of apartment living in a quake prone city...

Presumably your building is one of those next door to the carpark. Are you saying that the weaknesses should have been picked up after the last round of quakes ? We've seen here that subsidence takes time - and will go unnoticed till the next shake.

[T.W.R]

Yeah inland road makes sense, hopefully someone in govt has foresight to blast the hell out of the tips of those hills on coastal road and build a tourist and truck friendly double lane super expressway along the coast.

Rail needs level ground so they will have to open up and fix the rail line anyway, so it makes sense to spend money on road that provides maitainsnce access to rail.

Fuck Off!
Screw it more than it already is get fucked.

More economical & viable option would be to bring back the overnight ferry....wellington - chch.
Last thing they need to do is turn the coastal road into a express way...majority of accidents through there are already caused by drivers out driving their ability why give them reason to drive faster

[Crasherfromwayback]

One of the perils of apartment living in a quake prone city...

Presumably your building is one of those next door to the carpark. Are you saying that the weaknesses should have been picked up after the last round of quakes ? We've seen here that subsidence takes time - and will go unnoticed till the next shake.

Fully appreciate that mate. But our apartment is 100% ok after the shake. It's the cunting car park building that's the problem. And it was fucked (and closed for over a year) after the Seddon quakes. It's been repaired on the cheap, and is still fucked. It's even more fucked now. WCC needs to grow some fucking balls, and tear the cunt down asamutherfucking p.

As for not even allowing us five mins to get back into our place to grab personal items...that sucks balls too. That's not an evacuation...it's eviction.

[neels]

Fully appreciate that mate. But our apartment is 100% ok after the shake. It's the cunting car park building that's the problem. And it was fucked (and closed for over a year) after the Seddon quakes. It's been repaired on the cheap, and is still fucked. It's even more fucked now. WCC needs to grow some fucking balls, and tear the cunt down asamutherfucking p.

As for not even allowing us five mins to get back into our place to grab personal items...that sucks balls too. That's not an evacuation...it's eviction.
Happened in Christchurch too, the grand chancellor hotel had entire blocks cordoned off because it got a lean on after the feb quake, apparently it was fine after september....

Someone I work with had a house in sumner that was undamaged, but ended up behind the container wall that was put up due to the rock fall risk. They weren't allowed back in to get stuff from the house, house was undamaged so no insurance and it was their problem to pay for somewhere else to live, when they were finally allowed back they found that the containers hadn't stopped other people getting in and cleaning the place out.

[onearmedbandit]

As for not even allowing us five mins to get back into our place to grab personal items...that sucks balls too. That's not an evacuation...it's eviction.

Heard first hand stories of people bribing engineers to get into their inner city apartments here in ChCh after the '11 earthquake. One person I know very well paid an engineer $1000 to get into their place for 10 minutes.

[oldrider]

Hmmm - Seems officials are more obstructive and dangerous than the earthquakes! :brick: (why am I not surprised - I am currently embroiled with the local council)

[Moi]

Hmmm - Seems officials are more obstructive and dangerous than the earthquakes! :brick: (why am I not surprised - I am currently embroiled with the local council)

You want to ask the mayor of Hurunui District about dealing with officials...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-earthquake/86667671/mayor-battles-civil-defence-over-waiau-road-closure

and the result...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86671376/mt-lyford-residents-allowed-to-drive-quakedamaged-inland-road-but-kaikoura-still-cut-off


... hope it's not the Hurunui council you're "having discussions with"... :facepalm:

[Grumph]

There's a point which is not being reported yet but which should concern people very much...In the last year or so, the excess for EQC claims has gone from 1% - which we paid post the ChCh quakes and repairs - to a flat $5000.

So, all the smallish damage will almost cetainly be at owners expense.

We were watching the red stickering of houses in Kaikoura on TV and wondering about them too - How many have adequate insurance now.
All will have had their premiums rise post ChCh but given it's a low income area and house values have traditionlly been low too, how many will have enough insurance for a full rebuild ? I'd pick a rebuild there will cost more than a similar one out on the plains.

[Jeff Sichoe]

Grab a high-vis vest rock in first thing 9am tomorrow morning and say you're there to urgently check a report of falling debris and you need to get inside the building.

[mashman]

Fully appreciate that mate. But our apartment is 100% ok after the shake. It's the cunting car park building that's the problem. And it was fucked (and closed for over a year) after the Seddon quakes. It's been repaired on the cheap, and is still fucked. It's even more fucked now. WCC needs to grow some fucking balls, and tear the cunt down asamutherfucking p.

As for not even allowing us five mins to get back into our place to grab personal items...that sucks balls too. That's not an evacuation...it's eviction.

Find a dozen people or so that can "distract" the protector of the door, and go get your stuff. After all, you won't be breaking the law. More than happy to pop into Welly :D

[Akzle]

As for not even allowing us five mins to get back into our place to grab personal items...that sucks balls too. That's not an evacuation...it's eviction.
martial law, bitch. you'd best comply, citizen. or you'll be asked to comply again!


Grab a high-vis vest rock in first thing 9am tomorrow morning and say you're there to urgently check a report of falling debris and you need to get inside the building.

:clap: ...must spread. clipboard and a white hard hat too. cos all the "management" get white hard hats.
look nervous and jewish.

...but no shit. the places a clipboard and hivi will get you is frankly shocking.

[sidecar bob]

Sounds like a job for jellywrestler. He could pull that stunt like a boss.

[mashman]

Fully appreciate that mate. But our apartment is 100% ok after the shake. It's the cunting car park building that's the problem. And it was fucked (and closed for over a year) after the Seddon quakes. It's been repaired on the cheap, and is still fucked. It's even more fucked now. WCC needs to grow some fucking balls, and tear the cunt down asamutherfucking p.

As for not even allowing us five mins to get back into our place to grab personal items...that sucks balls too. That's not an evacuation...it's eviction.

And if you do go... remember to go ATTGATT. Beats the shit out of any hard hat and hi-viz jacket an inspector might wear.

[jellywrestler]

I've been a refugee in my own city since Thursday. Left home for work, haven't been allowed back in since. Not even for five mins to grab some personal stuff and clothing. If I meet the cunt that signed off on that cunting car park after the Seddon quakes, I'm gonna kick him in the fucking balls.

i see on the news tonight the rugby people are next to that molesworth building and have been evacuated too, but the land sar people escorted someback to get some trophies, why can't they help you lot out, say a ten minute grab??? or a cherry picker up from the road?
offer for house still stands pete, it's sitting doing nout at the moment, but is in gut valley...

[Grumph]

I dont think the $5000 excess applies to the actual house but driveways, paths, fences etc. Looks like many Kaikoura driveways have come off a lot worse than ChCh ones though and for those unable to pay the excess they will just replace with a shingle drive.

To the best of my knowledge it applies to all EQC claims - incl any house claims. The affordable 1% excess is gone.

The small stuff cost so much in ChCh that this is the govt's way of cutting the costs to EQC.

[Crasherfromwayback]

martial law, bitch. you'd best comply, citizen. or you'll be asked to comply again!

.

There's the rub...it's not mate. It's not been red zoned like CH CH. Yet.

[mashman]

There's the rub...it's not mate. It's not been red zoned like CH CH. Yet.

Handsome little fucker aincha ;)

[neels]

Just checked my current AMI policy and the excess is $400 but for anything not covered by the Earthquake Commission its $5000 eg driveways fences etc. What is worse than the $5000 excess though is the fact all policies are no longer full replacement but fixed price and if you have got that wrong you may not be able to afford a rebuild. I am actually insured myself for less than the cost of a full rebuild but if the worst happened I would get a nice mobile home or caravan with the money which would be more robust to shaking than a permanent material place.
Correct, pretty much all the insurance companies cranked the excess for non-eqc covered items to $5k, after they ended up replacing entire driveways that were 40 years old because they had 1 new crack in them beside the 100 existing ones.

EQC have also changed their excess I think, http://www.eqc.govt.nz/get-help-now/what-youre-covered-for


Excess

An excess is the amount you have to contribute towards a claim that is accepted by EQC. The amount of the excess is deducted from the amount of your claim.

Your dwelling, or your dwelling and personal property If your claim is for $20,000 or less, EQC will deduct an excess of $200 and pay the rest. If your claim is for more than $20,000, EQC will pay 99% of it, deducting an excess of 1%.

[Crasherfromwayback]

i see on the news tonight the rugby people are next to that molesworth building and have been evacuated too, but the land sar people escorted someback to get some trophies, why can't they help you lot out, say a ten minute grab??? or a cherry picker up from the road?
offer for house still stands pete, it's sitting doing nout at the moment, but is in gut valley...

Yeah. We obviously don't know John Key eh! Cunts. I'm taking them to task about it as best as I can.

Cheers mate. Very kind.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Handsome little fucker aincha ;)

What are you doin tonight?:bleh:

[mashman]

What are you doin tonight?:bleh:

heh heh heh... kicking the wife out of bed and warming up the ky by the looks of things :blip:

Eldest daughter is home spewin today and for some reason she had the news on. Some fulla with a familiar name and a similar predicament to yourself came on, and once I got past the lack of foul language, I figured it must have been your good self. About half way through your voices faded out and this started playing in my head... I hit pause on the TV and let it play :laugh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZKuzwPOefs

[jasonu]

Just checked my current AMI policy and the excess is $400 but for anything not covered by the Earthquake Commission its $5000 eg driveways fences etc. What is worse than the $5000 excess though is the fact all policies are no longer full replacement but fixed price and if you have got that wrong you may not be able to afford a rebuild. I am actually insured myself for less than the cost of a full rebuild but if the worst happened I would get a nice mobile home or caravan with the money which would be more robust to shaking than a permanent material place.


Correct, pretty much all the insurance companies cranked the excess for non-eqc covered items to $5k, after they ended up replacing entire driveways that were 40 years old because they had 1 new crack in them beside the 100 existing ones.

EQC have also changed their excess I think, http://www.eqc.govt.nz/get-help-now/what-youre-covered-for

Is it even legal for the insurance companies to change the terms and conditions of the agreement between themselves and the consumer (you) during the policy term without your consent?

[Akzle]

Is it even legal for the insurance companies to change the terms and conditions of the agreement between themselves and the consumer (you) during the policy term without your consent?

dude. jews.

[Crasherfromwayback]

and once I got past the lack of foul language, I figured it must have been your good self. About half way through your voices faded out and this started playing in my head... I hit pause on the TV and let it play :laugh:

o]

Hahaha. Nice. I kinda figured, if I used my day to day language, no cunt would hear a single thing due to the beeps.

[James Deuce]

Is it even legal for the insurance companies to change the terms and conditions of the agreement between themselves and the consumer (you) during the policy term without your consent?
They can do anything they want. There is currently an embargo on any new house or home and contents insurance policies being issued. I'm right in the due diligence phase of buying a house. Luckily our vendors have agreed to an extension.


There's been no public notification of this embargo which extends from Masterton to Christchurch.

[pritch]

Yeah inland road makes sense, hopefully someone in govt has foresight to blast the hell out of the tips of those hills on coastal road and build a tourist and truck friendly double lane super expressway along the coast.


Fuck no. That's my favourite stretch of SH1 you are suggesting is destroyed.

Mike Hosking (instant expert on everything) made a plea last night for the coastal route to be replaced by a new inland route Marlbourough to Canterbury. Minister for Everything Steven Joyce was saying this morning that the proposed inland route would involve high altitudes and would consequently be closed too frequently due to snow.

An early indication that they are looking at repair rather than replace?

[Grumph]

Fuck no. That's my favourite stretch of SH1 you are suggesting is destroyed.

Mike Hosking (instant expert on everything) made a plea last night for the coastal route to be replaced by a new inland route Marlbourough to Canterbury. Minister for Everything Steven Joyce was saying this morning that the proposed inland route would involve high altitudes and would consequently be closed too frequently due to snow.

An early indication that they are looking at repair rather than replace?

Key's already said repair is the favoured option. You could call the coast road TINA...because basically it was the only feasible route to use.
Sure we know what the topography of the ranges is better now with satellite imaging but it's still the only route feasible for rail.

Incidentally on TV3 the other night they showed a local getting to Min's Bin - past a looted train......Didn't take long did it.

[Ocean1]

Fuck no. That's my favourite stretch of SH1 you are suggesting is destroyed.

Mike Hosking (instant expert on everything) made a plea last night for the coastal route to be replaced by a new inland route Marlbourough to Canterbury. Minister for Everything Steven Joyce was saying this morning that the proposed inland route would involve high altitudes and would consequently be closed too frequently due to snow.

An early indication that they are looking at repair rather than replace?

They built the coastal route where it is because it was the cheapest option at the time.

It seems extremely unlikely that the cost of building a complete new highway through significantly more wrinkly countryside would be cheaper or quicker than repairing a couple of percent of the damaged existing one.

I'm not sure if the Molesworth option is any less prone to natural disaster anyway, is it? I mean it's probably wrinkly for a good reason....

[neels]

They can do anything they want. There is currently an embargo on any new house or home and contents insurance policies being issued. I'm right in the due diligence phase of buying a house. Luckily our vendors have agreed to an extension.

There's been no public notification of this embargo which extends from Masterton to Christchurch.
No notification other than in news reports

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/86522212/postquake-freeze-on-new-insurance-cover-catches-out-home-buyers-and-sellers

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/86563220/deal-struck-to-end-insurance-freeze

The same situation existed in Christchurch, where the only option was to insure with the same company as the previous owners, and it involved lots of paperwork. Most houses had been inspected by EQC so once you managed to obtain the paperwork you could send it on, there was usually a building inspection required as well, if it didn't have EQC paperwork or it was uninsured then it just got too painful.

[James Deuce]

It should be headline news, not buried in the business section. I can't be bothered with Stuff much these days.

Also the option to transfer policies is not available this time. It's a hard and fast embargo with no option available.

I'd also like to point out that the house we're buying is nowhere near the epicentre in Kaikoura. It's ridiculous cowardice on the part of Insurance companies and it's supported by Government to protect EQC from having to payout on earthquake damaged homes where the title was in transit.

Also, what's with the cunty, "nyah,nyah, nyah" tone of the reply? Are you an Insurance Theft company employee? If so, I hope you die.

[neels]

Also the option to transfer policies is not available this time. It's a hard and fast embargo with no option available.

Also, what's with the cunty, "nyah,nyah, nyah" tone of the reply? Are you an Insurance Theft company employee? If so, I hope you die.

So the 'deal' in the second article doesn't apply to you? Seems a bit of a waste of time reporting it then.

No intent to be cunty and definitely not an insurance company employee, more a dissatisfied customer in recent years, and I'm absolutely certain that I'll die.

[jasonu]

Hahaha. Nice. I kinda figured, if I used my day to day language, no cunt would hear a single thing due to the beeps.

Got a link to said item? I need a laugh.

[James Deuce]

So the 'deal' in the second article doesn't apply to you? Seems a bit of a waste of time reporting it then.

No intent to be cunty and definitely not an insurance company employee, more a dissatisfied customer in recent years, and I'm absolutely certain that I'll die.
I am dying too.
The deal is actually a lie. The Real Estate agent rang up ranting at my wife this morning so our lawyer went to bat for us and spoke to four insurance companies who all said the same thing that we'd been reporting to the Real Estate agent. The Real Estate agent then claimed that she'd sold a place a week ago and they had no trouble getting insurance, but when pushed that turned out to be the Thursday before the earthquake.

They were going to lift the embargo where we're buying this Friday, but last night's 5.7 in Culverden put paid to that.

[Ocean1]

I am dying too.
The deal is actually a lie. The Real Estate agent rang up ranting at my wife this morning so our lawyer went to bat for us and spoke to four insurance companies who all said the same thing that we'd been reporting to the Real Estate agent. The Real Estate agent then claimed that she'd sold a place a week ago and they had no trouble getting insurance, but when pushed that turned out to be the Thursday before the earthquake.

They were going to lift the embargo where we're buying this Friday, but last night's 5.7 in Culverden put paid to that.

Still, sounds promising, dude, nobody else will be able to get insurance either, and not many people would be prepared to risk the alternative.

Luck with it though, eh?

[James Deuce]

Exactly and thank you. Real Estate agent tried the "buy it without insurance!" on with 'er indoors today and 'er indoors just shrugged and said if someone else wants to buy it without insurance they are welcome to. The other offers we were competing with all had house sale clauses in them. We're expecting a 30 day delay.

[Ocean1]

Exactly and thank you. Real Estate agent tried the "buy it without insurance!" on with 'er indoors today and 'er indoors just shrugged and said if someone else wants to buy it without insurance they are welcome to. The other offers we were competing with all had house sale clauses in them. We're expecting a 30 day delay.

Maybe the agent would be prepared to cover it for you personally.

Worth an ask. :laugh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Got a link to said item? I need a laugh.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/ondemand/one-news-at-6pm/22-11-2016

[Leed]

... I hate wellington homeless especially the ones on Tory St

;)

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/hundreds-displaced-tenants-in-wellington-struggling-find-place-live?auto=5220196570001

[James Deuce]

Maybe the agent would be prepared to cover it for you personally.

Worth an ask. :laugh:

I'll let you know how that goes.


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[jasonu]

... I hate wellington homeless especially the ones on Tory St

;)

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/hundreds-displaced-tenants-in-wellington-struggling-find-place-live?auto=5220196570001

Whining grommets...

Seriously though that is really the shits. Especially if the story about some cunts being allowed to go in to get fucking rugby crap is true.

[jasonu]

I'll let you know how that goes.


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Given recent local history why would you want to live in that area? This not being able to get insurance looks like a good way to can the deal and try somewhere else less likely to fall into the ocean.

[James Deuce]

Given recent local history why would you want to live in that area? This not being able to get insurance looks like a good way to can the deal and try somewhere else less likely to fall into the ocean.
You've made an invalid assumption. We are buying nowhere near an ocean.

[F5 Dave]

I am dying too.
.

Well you say that. You might be immortal. S'not like you haven't tested the theory.

I'm not saying that all real estate agents are self interested weasels. Cunts is a better word .

[mashman]

Looks like the Asteron building may be a bit of an issue. Just had a call from a friend who works there that's just been evacuated. Cracks have been found but they're not sure how bad it is just yet. The missus works there too and they felt a massive jolt today so not sure if they're new cracks or something that a couple shaggin somewhere recently spotted.

[jasonu]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11753814

What a shame....(it didn't actually cave in).

[neels]

Given recent local history why would you want to live in that area? This not being able to get insurance looks like a good way to can the deal and try somewhere else less likely to fall into the ocean.
South Canterbury to Masterton covers a fair bit of the country, and a lot of that nowhere near the sea.


I am dying too.
The deal is actually a lie. The Real Estate agent rang up ranting at my wife this morning so our lawyer went to bat for us and spoke to four insurance companies who all said the same thing that we'd been reporting to the Real Estate agent. The Real Estate agent then claimed that she'd sold a place a week ago and they had no trouble getting insurance, but when pushed that turned out to be the Thursday before the earthquake.

They were going to lift the embargo where we're buying this Friday, but last night's 5.7 in Culverden put paid to that.
We managed to just get through escaping the red zone on the day before confirmation was due, in doing so saving us around $500 a week on loss of insurance settlement value vs the ever increasing market, after finally getting a response from an insurance company I hate after spending $1000 to meet their requirements and then hand delivering it to the bank to get finance approved.

I understand your frustration, I just hope you are not being coerced to move, because I know from personal experience that it is a cunty situation to be in.

[jasonu]

South Canterbury to Masterton covers a fair bit of the country, and a lot of that nowhere near the sea.


Really, I never would have guessed...

[F5 Dave]

. . .

So when is Crasher going to post pictures from his lounge room? Oh the hu. . . bikemanity.
Gee I'm starting to feel guilty about this post, didn't even think you'd be out on the street. Hope you can get back in.

[Crasherfromwayback]

..

Seriously though that is really the shits. Especially if the story about some cunts being allowed to go in to get fucking rugby crap is true.

It's 100% true. Old Steve Tew would've simply made a call to his bumchum Key...and in they go to get the silverware! I had a run in (well, a few actually) with a guy by the name of Phil Becker, of WCC, the tosser tries to tell me that they were let in, due to the level of risk being different to mine. They were only in danger of falling glass, I'm in danger of being squashed. Not sure which would be a better way to go. Being sliced in half by 20mm thick glass falling from 18 stories, or being squashed. Odd though, that when I asked to see the engineers report comparing the two...he couldn't and wouldn't. He's a full of shit wanker.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Gee I'm starting to feel guilty about this post, didn't even think you'd be out on the street. Hope you can get back in.

All good. Could be a while before you see any lounge pics though! Really looking forward to seeing what the kilo of fish I took out of the freezer looks like in a months time.

Wonder who I can bill for the damage from that?

[James Deuce]

South Canterbury to Masterton covers a fair bit of the country, and a lot of that nowhere near the sea.


We managed to just get through escaping the red zone on the day before confirmation was due, in doing so saving us around $500 a week on loss of insurance settlement value vs the ever increasing market, after finally getting a response from an insurance company I hate after spending $1000 to meet their requirements and then hand delivering it to the bank to get finance approved.

I understand your frustration, I just hope you are not being coerced to move, because I know from personal experience that it is a cunty situation to be in.

Bloody hell, that was lucky.

Luckily we have no coercion as yet, however, we suspect it is coming soon. Wonder if the Real Estate agent will pay for a motel? :)

[Grumph]

All good. Could be a while before you see any lounge pics though! Really looking forward to seeing what the kilo of fish I took out of the freezer looks like in a months time.

Wonder who I can bill for the damage from that?

Better hope the rats get it.

[jasonu]

It's 100% true. Old Steve Tew would've simply made a call to his bumchum Key...and in they go to get the silverware! I had a run in (well, a few actually) with a guy by the name of Phil Becker, of WCC, the tosser tries to tell me that they were let in, due to the level of risk being different to mine. They were only in danger of falling glass, I'm in danger of being squashed. Not sure which would be a better way to go. Being sliced in half by 20mm thick glass falling from 18 stories, or being squashed. Odd though, that when I asked to see the engineers report comparing the two...he couldn't and wouldn't. He's a full of shit wanker.

Keep hassling them. Soon enough they will get sick of the sound of your voice and let you in.

[jasonu]

... I hate wellington homeless especially the ones on Tory St

;)

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/hundreds-displaced-tenants-in-wellington-struggling-find-place-live?auto=5220196570001

I thought you would be better looking...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Better hope the rats get it.

Even they wouldn't go near it by now mate.


Keep hassling them. Soon enough they will get sick of the sound of your voice and let you in.

Oh I am don't worry.

[jasonu]

Oh I am don't worry.

I expected no less.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I expected no less.

Justin Lester, to his credit...has replied to every one of my messages. Cunt of a time to become the new mayor of Wellington. :innocent:

[jasonu]

Justin Lester, to his credit...has replied to every one of my messages. Cunt of a time to become the new mayor of Wellington. :innocent:

Mate if that doesn't get results give Brian Edwards and Fair Go a call.

[ellipsis]

...Pete, if you can't get in by being up front, try being a bit underhand...they never seem to catch the looting scum that get in without permission...

[mashman]

Justin Lester, to his credit...has replied to every one of my messages. Cunt of a time to become the new mayor of Wellington. :innocent:

Might pay him to show some common sense mind. ATTGATT visit by the brotherhood ;)

[pete376403]

White hard hat, orange hi-viz vest and a clipboard. New Nazi uniform.

[jellywrestler]

Justin Lester, to his credit...has replied to every one of my messages. Cunt of a time to become the new mayor of Wellington. :innocent:

tell them you just got a power bill for a huge amount, it appears you'd turned the oven on just before you'd been called away and you just want to get in to turn it off.....

[Crasherfromwayback]

tell them you just got a power bill for a huge amount, it appears you'd turned the oven on just before you'd been called away and you just want to get in to turn it off.....

They don't give a shit. Trust me.

[R650R]

Fuck no. That's my favourite stretch of SH1 you are suggesting is destroyed.

Mike Hosking (instant expert on everything) made a plea last night for the coastal route to be replaced by a new inland route Marlbourough to Canterbury. Minister for Everything Steven Joyce was saying this morning that the proposed inland route would involve high altitudes and would consequently be closed too frequently due to snow.

An early indication that they are looking at repair rather than replace?

Yes its a nice ride but it will never be the same. Makes sense though while you've got the big gear there to go full monty and double lane as much of it as posssible, put in big tourist bus and truck friendly rest areas with viewing platforms. Then once the job is done they can put all the gear on boats and take it up to the disaster that is roading in Northland.
The far north is a goldmine of tourism and high value real estate waiting to be unlocked with decent infrstructure access and roading.

Putting my money on repair though, just to costly surveying, RMA, land aquisition, weather elements to put anew road anywhere else.
And the rail, the rail HAS to be repaired so makes sense to keep the road there for access.

[R650R]

It's 100% true. Old Steve Tew would've simply made a call to his bumchum Key...and in they go to get the silverware! I had a run in (well, a few actually) with a guy by the name of Phil Becker, of WCC, the tosser tries to tell me that they were let in, due to the level of risk being different to mine. They were only in danger of falling glass, I'm in danger of being squashed. Not sure which would be a better way to go. Being sliced in half by 20mm thick glass falling from 18 stories, or being squashed. Odd though, that when I asked to see the engineers report comparing the two...he couldn't and wouldn't. He's a full of shit wanker.

Try reporting them under OSH, they have entered an unsafe workplace environment. Being escorted by SAR doesn't mean shit, in no way is that managed risk as the person who could rescue you will be buried with you.
And they wonder why peope take belongings when being told to evcacuate planes and buildings....

[R650R]

clipboard and a white hard hat too. cos all the "management" get white hard hats.
look nervous and jewish.

...but no shit. the places a clipboard and hivi will get you is frankly shocking.

And a CLEAN hi vis at that so you look like one of them. Often delivering at places in the truck theres no facilities for drivers, especially overseas.
I would often done a clean hi vis, strut like a boss and time your approach to controlled doorways with other people.
Scrubbed up in some very nice bathrooms.
Cant egt out just act dumb and say took wrong turn somewhere.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And they wonder why peope take belongings when being told to evcacuate planes and buildings....

I agree mate. Prob is, we weren't even evacuated. We left for work Thurs in the clothes we had on, haven't been allowed back since.

[jasonu]

I agree mate. Prob is, we weren't even evacuated. We left for work Thurs in the clothes we had on, haven't been allowed back since.

Exactly how are they preventing you from going in? 24hr guards on every corner and every doorway?

[Akzle]

.
The far north is a goldmine of tourism and high value real estate waiting to be unlocked with decent infrstructure access and roading.

.

no. fuck off.

fucken aucklanders already ruining shit, mangawhai, marsden, ruakaka... once nice places, now suburban hell.

[Maha]

no. fuck off.

fucken aucklanders already ruining shit, mangawhai, marsden, ruakaka... once nice places, now suburban hell.

You may be confusing Marsden with One Tree Point? Marsden Waterways did not explode as per developers predictions. The 'Marsden City' development is a massive fail. Ruakaka is still very much not like the other areas mentioned. Your story is inaccurate.

Marsden City Fail ... http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/regional/288701/huge-repair-bill-after-development-corrodes

[R650R]

no. fuck off.

fucken aucklanders already ruining shit, mangawhai, marsden, ruakaka... once nice places, now suburban hell.

Yeah 20 years ago I think thre wa sonly a pub at mangawhai.... mind you though back then it would have been hard to see anything at all with the front wheel of the GSXr in the air all the time blocking the view...

But you northen bro's don't realise what your sitting on up there, all it needs is access and marketing...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Exactly how are they preventing you from going in? 24hr guards on every corner and every doorway?

Pretty much....

[Akzle]

But you northen bro's don't realise what your sitting on up there, all it needs is access and marketing...

i think many realise exactly what we're sitting on.
...and that creating access and advertising it (more) will change it from "chur bro" to the same steaming pile they call "development".
no. no you can keep your azn drivers, litterbug latté sipping townie fuckers, concrete trucks, copy-paste suburban housing, bullshit enforcement assholes.
There are enough problems up here orready with people trying to rape money out of the land. (forestry i'm looking at you)

[jasonu]

i think many realise exactly what we're sitting on.
...and that creating access and advertising it (more) will change it from "chur bro" to the same steaming pile they call "development".
no. no you can keep your azn drivers, litterbug latté sipping townie fuckers, concrete trucks, copy-paste suburban housing, bullshit enforcement assholes.
There are enough problems up here orready with people trying to rape money out of the land. (forestry i'm looking at you)

Mate you've go no chance. It is only a matter of time...

[Ocean1]

i think many realise exactly what we're sitting on.
...and that creating access and advertising it (more) will change it from "chur bro" to the same steaming pile they call "development".
no. no you can keep your azn drivers, litterbug latté sipping townie fuckers, concrete trucks, copy-paste suburban housing, bullshit enforcement assholes.
There are enough problems up here orready with people trying to rape money out of the land. (forestry i'm looking at you)

...Jobs, that winz can point you at.

Yeah fuck all that John.

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[R650R]

i think many realise exactly what we're sitting on.
...and that creating access and advertising it (more) will change it from "chur bro" to the same steaming pile they call "development".
no. no you can keep your azn drivers, litterbug latté sipping townie fuckers, concrete trucks, copy-paste suburban housing, bullshit enforcement assholes.
There are enough problems up here orready with people trying to rape money out of the land. (forestry i'm looking at you)

Doesn't need to be over developed, just some nice expensive hotels for rich foreign tourists to stay in. Then more easy reasonably paid jobs cooking/cleaning/feeding/transporting them.

And it would still be chur bro, but "Chur Bro cant believe another 'Merican just paid $1000 to go bareback horseriding with the whanau, or guided surfcasting, pig hunting, fishing trips etc....
You should see what a few piles of steaming shitty vine yards have done for HB....
Govt beauracracy will always be about, hell in your case you'd prob even get massive grants to help set up in business.

Our country would be third world without forestry jobs and the associated industries...

[Berries]

And it would still be chur bro, but "Chur Bro cant believe another 'Merican just paid $1000 to go bareback horseriding with the whanau, or guided surfcasting, pig hunting, fishing trips etc...
I know somewhere in Northland where bareback riding with the whanau is only $5 and a bag of chips.





Pretty sure I saw it on Trip Advisor.

[Akzle]

I know somewhere in Northland where bareback riding with the whanau is only $5 and a bag of chips.





Pretty sure I saw it on Trip Advisor.

whores riding, tim, not horse...

[Akzle]

Doesn't need to be over developed, just some nice expensive hotels for rich foreign tourists to stay in. Then more easy reasonably paid jobs cooking/cleaning/feeding/transporting them.

And it would still be chur bro, but "Chur Bro cant believe another 'Merican just paid $1000 to go bareback horseriding with the whanau, or guided surfcasting, pig hunting, fishing trips etc....
You should see what a few piles of steaming shitty vine yards have done for HB....
Govt beauracracy will always be about, hell in your case you'd prob even get massive grants to help set up in business.

Our country would be third world without forestry jobs and the associated industries...

when your metric is jewgold: shit's fucked.

[awa355]

no. fuck off.

fucken aucklanders already ruining shit, mangawhai, marsden, ruakaka... once nice places, now suburban hell.

You could make a killing out of aucklanders, rent out your caravan, hire out the goat.:eek5::eek5:

[Maha]

You could make a killing out of aucklanders, rent out your caravan, hire out the goat.:eek5::eek5:

We wont rent out our van, love it too much to have some strangers in it and not leaving it how they found it.... goats especially.