Setting up GSXR750 for track days

[nzspokes]

Just picked up a K9 GSXR750 which I will be doing some track days on.

Anybody got any tips on settings for em? Anything they need done over normal servicing stuff?

[BuzzardNZ]

Just picked up a K9 GSXR750 which I will be doing some track days on.

Anybody got any tips on settings for em? Anything they need done over normal servicing stuff?

Replace the suspension, as per usual!

[nzspokes]

So far really only looking at braided lines and a quickshifter.

[roogazza]

Just picked up a K9 GSXR750 which I will be doing some track days on.

Anybody got any tips on settings for em? Anything they need done over normal servicing stuff?

I'd start with the handbook settings spokes and work from there.One of the worst things I've struck with pre owned stuff is some expert winds the rebound up with the idea more is better?

I went on sites like 'sportbike' and made a note of what road testers went for , but in the end you really have to go for what you like in feel.

I've just had new seals and oil etc in the K6 and am playing with different settings. But like I said YOU have to like it not some other wanna be expert.
I have a preference to softer always have (like the bike moving around abit).
You can throw money at it with ohlins n shit but it won't make you a Rossi. Its more about what you yourself appreciate.

[nzspokes]

I'd start with the handbook settings spokes and work from there.One of the worst things I've struck with pre owned stuff is some expert winds the rebound up with the idea more is better?

I went on sites like 'sportbike' and made a note of what road testers went for , but in the end you really have to go for what you like in feel.

I've just had new seals and oil etc in the K6 and am playing with different settings. But like I said you have to like it not some wanna be.
I have a preference to softer always have (like the bike moving around abit).
You can throw money at it with ohlins n shit but it won't make you a Rossi. Its more about what you yourself appreciate.

This bike is single owner and an older guy that used it for commuting. Its bog stock with hot grips. But the shocks and forks are off being serviced before I get it.

Will set it to factory settings and go from there. I read the stock brakes are a bit mud but they only slow you down.

Im even going to leave the stock exhaust so I dont need to stuff around with extra tuning.

[SVboy]

send forks and shock to Robert Taylor. Tell him your intended use. Difference is amazing. if you don't , at least set the sags, say 25-30 mm both ends for track. Brakes, thinner rotors on the k8. They can warp but at least fit braided lines. M/c ratio is wrong. Brembo RCS and EBC HH pads for the win. Perfect bike. Loved mine.

[Jin]

Tank grips and $40 ebay clip ons and your good to go

[AllanB]

The engines appear bulletproof.

Most owners don't change coolant (I've always done mine every 3 years) - presume you need to flush and replace it. Are you allowed the green stuff on a track?

Brake fluid you'll do with the braided lines.

Good rubber obviously.

Get out and fang it then tweak suspenders to suit.

Good choice.

Have fun.

[HenryDorsetCase]

case protectors (GB racing). take off all the road gear incl fairings and put some shitty ebay ones on. fork spindle protectors and such.

[nzspokes]

case protectors (GB racing). take off all the road gear incl fairings and put some shitty ebay ones on. fork spindle protectors and such.

Yeah shopping for such things now. Least these things are easy to get parts for.

[SVboy]

Coolant every three years! allanB, please leave your Ducati at the front desk and catch a bus. Every year, if you care!

[AllanB]

Coolant every three years! allanB, please leave your Ducati at the front desk and catch a bus. Every year, if you care!

NAh - I don't put that may kms on a year! Think I did the hornet every two years if I remember correctly. I'm the only one I know who changes it at all!

You got me wondering though and I checked my Ducati handbook - every 36 months apparently. No doubt it requires a 'special tool' bawahahahahaha

[nzspokes]

Just had to step away from the credit card. :shit:

To much available online for these things......

[Katman]

Be sure to upgrade the side stand spring.

[Madness]

Be sure to upgrade the side stand spring.

http://www.wahlracing.com/images/P/11-352.jpg

[nzspokes]

Be sure to upgrade the side stand spring.

Its a Gixxer, its already Unobtanium. :motu:

[nzspokes]

http://www.wahlracing.com/images/P/11-352.jpg

Thats a tool I dont have, will be picking one up.

[SVboy]

Be sure to upgrade the side stand spring.

This is sound advice, more to do with the k6/7, the spring allows the side stand to bounce over bumps, leading to the interlock switch causing the motor to cut momentarily.......

[nzspokes]

Finding tons of info online about em. Seems the odd person has raced this model.

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[Madness]

Seems the odd person has raced this model.

Could possibly be the perfect track bike for you then.

[malcy25]

Not a lot until you really find what is a problem.

Do some basic stuff:
* hoseclamp around the spin on oil filter and wire to something.
* suspension you have under control
* tank grip is awesome
* make EVERYTHING work as well as it could. Lube cables, suspension links etc, good pads, steering head bearings etc.

* Tyres. match your tyres to your skill set. Most track day riders DON'T need slicks. Great for the ego, but if you can't keep them at a temp that makes them work properly, more than your ego will take a dent. I did LOTS of miles on Q2 Dunlops at track days - never an issue for grip, lasted well. There are lots of options, between tour and race that work well, but be truthful to yourself!

Don't suffer magpie disease (Be attracted to shiny shit). Well ridden, well set up stock stuff is better than every bit of badly set up and badly ridden shiny shit!

Goodish riding gear that fits well....the difference can be amazing. Flashy paint jobs on helmets can be cool, but plain colours are cheaper....for the same helmet.

Spend money on your head (ie learning) and don't just continue to make the same mistakes by just doing the same thing more or fasterer, if it is wrong.

[SVboy]

This is really solid advice.

[nzspokes]

Not a lot until you really find what is a problem.

Do some basic stuff:
* hoseclamp around the spin on oil filter and wire to something.
* suspension you have under control
* tank grip is awesome
* make EVERYTHING work as well as it could. Lube cables, suspension links etc, good pads, steering head bearings etc.

* Tyres. match your tyres to your skill set. Most track day riders DON'T need slicks. Great for the ego, but if you can't keep them at a temp that makes them work properly, more than your ego will take a dent. I did LOTS of miles on Q2 Dunlops at track days - never an issue for grip, lasted well. There are lots of options, between tour and race that work well, but be truthful to yourself!

Don't suffer magpie disease (Be attracted to shiny shit). Well ridden, well set up stock stuff is better than every bit of badly set up and badly ridden shiny shit!

Goodish riding gear that fits well....the difference can be amazing. Flashy paint jobs on helmets can be cool, but plain colours are cheaper....for the same helmet.

Spend money on your head (ie learning) and don't just continue to make the same mistakes by just doing the same thing more or fasterer, if it is wrong.

Cheers, stuff Im getting is crash protection and quickshift. Im leaving the stock exhaust on etc. more power wont be needed to start with.

I have leathers that seem to work for me as in I dont notice them when on track. Also have a decent helmet for track thats not the best colour in the world but figured when I go for a slide an amazing graphic is the least of my problems.

The bike is coming with new PP3s which will do for a start.

Suspension looks to be ok spring rates for starting but just happen to have 2 rates up in springs in the shed and found a guy selling 1 rate up in fork springs cheap on TM so grabbed them. But for the first time out will ride it stock set up the best I can and just learn the bike.

I will be doing the ART days but will probably do superbike school.

[malcy25]

I will be doing the ART days but will probably do superbike school.

Awesome, good plan.

ART days are a good start point (I help out there), but I'm a big fan of the superbike school. While CSS does cost, there is a lot more detail and structure - have done all 4 levels.

[nzspokes]

Awesome, good plan.

ART days are a good start point (I help out there), but I'm a big fan of the superbike school. While CSS does cost, there is a lot more detail and structure - have done all 4 levels.
Oh, I thought super bike school was CSS. lol. Better check that before I book.

Last ART I did was almost 2 years ago. Was one of the faster in G2. So will stay back in G2 until my speed comes back. Had some trouble with getting dizzy under braking but think I can work through that now. I just wont use the brakes. ......

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[Autech]

Not a lot until you really find what is a problem.



This. :2thumbsup

Basically you need to get out and ride the thing to see how it suits you. Might be worth setting the static sag on it considering the bike has the adjustment to do so already.

Some cheap race fairings would be a go too as the whole world cries when a beautiful gixxer gets scuffed (did it myself to an immaculate K5).

Braided brake lines are the tits, I hate that squishy feel but some riders don't mind it.

Other shit to consider is what to bring to the track WITH you:
A good tyre pressure gauge
Tyre pump
Some tools to remove the side stand
Paddock stand (if you have one)
Race tape to tape over the headlight and speedo
Spare helmet, just in case... Try not to need it though.
Banter, for in the pits have your banter on form as you will be talking a lot of shit between sessions.

[malcy25]

Awesome, good plan.

ART days are a good start point (I help out there), but I'm a big fan of the superbike school. While CSS does cost, there is a lot more detail and structure - have done all 4 levels.

Superbike school = CSS!

[malcy25]

This. :2thumbsup

A good tyre pressure gauge

Banter, for in the pits have your banter on form as you will be talking a lot of shit between sessions.

Autech. yep, them too, good pick up. I tend to forget as they just go along for the rider every time I go to the circuit.

Banter may be the most important of all...always bring your A game.....and recall that one time you pass someone. Never mind they have ridden around you all day....!

[Autech]

Banter may be the most important of all...always bring your A game.....and recall that one time you pass someone. Never mind they have ridden around you all day....!

We recently did a car/bike day down here where the bikes had a massive break between races. Basically was a full 2 days talking shit with some racing (crashing on my part) thrown in between to break up the day. Much banter.
Something has struck me though at race meets is that the bikers seem to be a lot more social than the car racers. Did a joint track day once and the guys on the cars looked like someone had died after every session (no wide grin) where as the bikers were giggling like school children.

Not sure if this is the case everywhere though, anyone done both types of racing care to comment?

[nzspokes]

Starting to get a handle on the thing. Lots of little things needed adjusting but rode it to and from work today and heaps better. Just set sags and set the adjusters to the factory settings. They were all over the place. Fork ones were different side to side. Think Im going to need a gripper seat cover.

Was a bit meh about its power as my gsx1250 would blitz it at lower speeds. But a wee blat today with a throttle that doesnt need half a turn to work showed its got some go.Will disable the O2 and SET valve tomorrow then go for a pootle to try to learn going round corners on it.

[roogazza]

Starting to get a handle on the thing. Lots of little things needed adjusting but rode it to and from work today and heaps better. Just set sags and set the adjusters to the factory settings. They were all over the place. Fork ones were different side to side. Think Im going to need a gripper seat cover.

Cool spokes, as my previous post , you have found someone fiddled with the fuckin thing.
Just ride it and get the feel for it. I must admit I have never really enjoyed trackdays that much.Besides having to pay for the priv,the tyres still wear out.
we didn't have them years ago so a fang with the boys on a sunday was our track day (and pretty hectic they were too ). Not acceptable on the roads nowdays haha.
Did a few years of competition on tracks, that seemed to quench the thirst but trackdays not so much.
Enjoy !
ps been chatting to Dale Walker about his project GSX S , It'll be for sale soon.

[nzspokes]

Cool spokes, as my previous post , you have found someone fiddled with the fuckin thing.
Just ride it and get the feel for it. I must admit I have never really enjoyed trackdays that much.Besides having to pay for the priv,the tyres still wear out.
we didn't have them years ago so a fang with the boys on a sunday was our track day (and pretty hectic they were too ). Not acceptable on the roads nowdays haha.
Did a few years of competition on tracks, that seemed to quench the thirst but trackdays not so much.
Enjoy !
ps been chatting to Dale Walker about his project GSX S , It'll be for sale soon.

Yeah pulled the SET valve out this morning. I want to fit a manual cam chain tensioner and its in the way big time.

Next big job is a tail tidy! :lol:

For me it will be ART days where you get training to improve my skill. Thats what Im after.

Dale is good people. My GSX1250 will toast the GSXR750 to 140. Its a freight train.

[Drew]

Tank grips and $40 ebay clip ons and your good to go
Aftermarket clipons need to be top quality, that $40 shit pinches the fork tubes and is absolute crap.


It's a gixxer. Thumb the starter, and proceed to rape the bitch.

[nzspokes]

Aftermarket clipons need to be top quality, that $40 shit pinches the fork tubes and is absolute crap.


It's a gixxer. Thumb the starter, and proceed to rape the bitch.

Is there a problem with the stock clip ons? Or are they easy to break in a slide?

Yeah pretty much on the rape it bit.

Do they need manual cam chain tensioners?

[Drew]

Is there a problem with the stock clip ons? Or are they easy to break in a slide?

Yeah pretty much on the rape it bit.

Do they need manual cam chain tensioners?

Standard bars are absolute pick of the bunch. Amateurs wank on about widening the bars, don't do it. Current NZ1 insists on only Suzuki standard part, he might know what he's talking about.

Standard auto tensioner in the Ray Clee built Yoshi/Gixxer motors is the go, so I'd suggest stick with it.

[nzspokes]

Standard bars are absolute pick of the bunch. Amateurs wank on about widening the bars, don't do it. Current NZ1 insists on only Suzuki standard part, he might know what he's talking about.

Standard auto tensioner in the Ray Clee built Yoshi/Gixxer motors is the go, so I'd suggest stick with it.

Funny thing is I thought today wider bars would be nice. :yes:

More i want them a bit further forward so I will probably grind the little nips off so i can move em.

Has a slight cam chain rattle so will probably just fit a new chain at some stage.

[Drew]

Funny thing is I thought today wider bars would be nice. :yes:

More i want them a bit further forward so I will probably grind the little nips off so i can move em.

Has a slight cam chain rattle so will probably just fit a new chain at some stage.

Sit further back. Moving the bars out just means they foul the fairing and life gets difficult.

[nzspokes]

Sit further back. Moving the bars out just means they foul the fairing and life gets difficult.

Fair call. Getting some tank grip so I can hold myself back.

[SVboy]

if throttle response is too slow, r1 or r6 throttle tube will help.

[nzspokes]

if throttle response is too slow, r1 or r6 throttle tube will help.

Yeah its got a long turn on it, have an R1 one on my 1250 so may do the same on the 750.

Did about 300ks on it over the weekend. Getting used to it. It wont get much riding now until after new years. :(

[Berries]

Fair call. Getting some tank grip so I can hold myself back.
Consider getting the seat recovered as well. Had to replace the one on my old SV due to UV damage and was offered a few options. The one I went for ended up being as grippy as a very grippy thing - might have been the motocross option I am not sure.

Traded the SV for a GSXR this year and with my waterproofs on I am all over the place, the old nuts/tank scenario is one thought, so is sliding off the side. Am loathe to go and replace undamaged stuff on a new bike but to be honest it is shit.

For info it was a car upholsterer I used, I think I got charged $40 or something like that. Excellent job, unbelievable price.

[nzspokes]

Have now got fork extenders on the way and base settings from Dave Moss. Going to have him give it the full work over late Jan.

[Drew]

Have now got fork extenders on the way and base settings from Dave Moss. Going to have him give it the full work over late Jan.

Fork extenders? The sem fiddly isn't gonna cut a faster lap running that deep under brakes I shouldn't think.

Might be an idea to chuck some fairings on it and get some seat time before fucking around with geometry.

[nzspokes]

Fork extenders? The sem fiddly isn't gonna cut a faster lap running that deep under brakes I shouldn't think.

Might be an idea to chuck some fairings on it and get some seat time before fucking around with geometry.

Jezzz, your no fun.

Mid feb before my first track day so got to do something. Ton of info on them so i know my start setting. Seems they love more trail as well as swingarm angle so thats easy.

Ive decided I want to do a pipe, but cant be arsed with a PC yet.

Then I can enter the Highway 16 gp.

[nzspokes]

Righto, just had my first track day on the Gixxer. Its now got a SC project pipe and a PC, they came up cheap at Revzilla.

I hired Dave Moss for the day, the bike is set up well for me know. Tyres look good.

The day went better than I expected. After the third session is was getting back into it.

Things I need to sort are, a quick turn throttle and rearsets.

I had to double grab the throttle to get it wide and I need the pegs up and back. I couldnt lock into the bike.

But real happy with its first time out. :niceone:

[nzspokes]

I bought some Ti Yoshi headers for it a couple of weeks back off a crashed bike.

Earlier this week it went on the dyno and got set up. Mid range is much better now and he found 8hp on the top. He also played with my quickshifter kill times to smooth it out. Very happy with the job. BRM in Kaka st did the job.

Now to find another track day.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Keep hearing good things about brm....

[nzspokes]

This now holds the 750 naked record at Bonneville with its new owner. :woohoo: