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badassblake
4th December 2016, 20:51
Hey team

I'm looking at buying a camera for mounting to my helmet whilst riding, and occasionally on the dash board of the car.
I got a free GoPro styled camera that had terrible resolution even when viewed on a laptop screen, and when mounted to my helmet it provided huge resistance at open road/mway speeds. It wasn't worth the effort so I biffed that one.
I have been looking at the Contour Roam 3 camera, as it has a much better shape for aerodynamics, also it's about half the price of a GoPro.
Does anyone own one of these, or do you own anything similar? I'm not looking at editing or doing anything fancy, I guess it is more for insurance purposes whilst commuting etc.

Any suggestions?
Cheers.

WristTwister
4th December 2016, 21:18
Go for a chest-mounted Go Pro Hero4 silver.

GoPro 1080p/60 will capture a lot of detail and the higher frame rate is good for slow-motion and catching split-second movements. Chest-mounts can work, the obvious benefit is no drag on your head, they're also less conspicuous. Chin-mounts are probably the second choice.

Tazz
5th December 2016, 04:23
Or the camera mounts that put it on/below your chin.

Akzle
5th December 2016, 06:02
"Helmet mounted cameras"... are gay as shit. dont be a faggot,

and stop contributing your shit (and everyone elses) to the mass-surveillance overlords.

for fucks sakes. i might swerve my truck at the next motorcyclist i see videoing shit that nobody, but nobody, will ever give a fuck about.

BrendonF
5th December 2016, 10:49
Go for a chest-mounted Go Pro Hero4 silver.

I mounted my 5 to my bike and it fell off:angry:Currently looking at putting it somewhere else. FYI the 5 takes a good hammering as mine hit the road at 140 and still works, but with some damage. The hard wasn't available for them at that stage. I have one now and a replacement lens as that got smashed as it slid down the road. The footage is pretty cool as it came off while I was overtaking a couple of cars.

Mr Revhead
5th December 2016, 13:35
"Helmet mounted cameras"... are gay as shit. dont be a faggot,

and stop contributing your shit (and everyone elses) to the mass-surveillance overlords.

for fucks sakes. i might swerve my truck at the next motorcyclist i see videoing shit that nobody, but nobody, will ever give a fuck about.

Hell I love internet tough guys!

Your probably some 5ft nothing 60kg office worker who rides a vespa and drives a Prius. :tugger:

EJK
5th December 2016, 13:54
Hell I love internet tough guys!

Your probably some 5ft nothing 60kg office worker who rides a vespa and drives a Prius. :tugger:

You are giving him far too much credit.

BrendonF
5th December 2016, 14:17
I tried a chest mount and it was not that good as it just showed the tank and instrument panel mostly in the video. While I have yet to try it a mount on the front guard would look the best and being lower down will give a rollercaster ride look on the hills.

yeah on the Akaroa GP! I looked at that on my bike, but the shape of my guard doesn't really fit the sticky mounts. Need to be careful not to mount too far back for obvious reasons

Mike.Gayner
5th December 2016, 14:29
I've got a couple of GoPros that hardly ever get used. Honestly if you're just interested in filming yourself riding, I'd say give it a miss. 99.99% of your footage will be too boring to use, unless you want to be one of those boring bastards that are so popular vlogging on youtube right now.

Even mounting my cameras on my helmet and bike in various configurations around the track made for boring footage - it's just not that interesting. Add to that, editing is a pain in the balls.

My best videos have been holiday snaps. Take loads of short clips (< 10 seconds) and edit together a holiday memento with some good music.

Mr Revhead
5th December 2016, 14:44
Mikes right, hours of footage for a few minutes actually worth sharing. And the editing is a major time consuming PITA.
The guys who do ok on YouTube either live in busy places and have a job that allows them to record a few hours a day eg RJ and Walterriffic. Or act like knob jockeys to create stuff that would probably get you arrested here. And rightly so.
But if you have different reasons for it, then why not? It is your time after all. The Contour style on the helmet is the way to go. Camera points where you look. And the round low profile doesn't look as silly as a Gopro.
Also as mentioned if you want clarity to pick up number plates at 100k, then you will need 1080p at 60fps capability.
Also if you want good sound, you need a decent stand alone microphone. The built in ones are awful and do nothing but pick up wind noise

Akzle
5th December 2016, 15:19
akzle's right, that's gay shit and no cunt is ever going to watch it.
. .

tamarillo
5th December 2016, 15:27
Mate just bought a tomtom camera and mounts after research. It's used only for training purposes.
Others have bought cheap units and keep posting endless videos no one want to watch on U tube.
So, if you're serious, check out tomtom units.


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iYRe
5th December 2016, 16:05
he's said its just for insurance purposes not for posting on youtube.

I have an old go pro and a Contour HD. GoPRo goes on the rear and the contour on the bikini fairing. I wouldnt waste money on a new one, I'd just get a secondhand one. The quality is good enough if you DO get some good footage (I got some awesome footage going over the hills at Piha with the Ocean appearing in the distance), but its fine for insurance.

I prefer the contour myself, but they are both ok

nzspokes
5th December 2016, 18:03
Oh good times, put up recordings of you riding down a road.

That will be interesting. :yawn:

slofox
5th December 2016, 18:08
I use a Replay XD. Very easy to fit, lots of video options, full HD - pretty good overall.

Coupla negatives include 4:3 format - no 16:9. And .mov files which are fine in themselves but are a bit of a bugger if you use a windows computer.

Fact of the matter is that although I bought it for bike vids, I found very quickly that such vids are really fucking boring. So I rarely use it any more.

You can set it to do time lapse though. Quite good to see which of the neighbourhood brats is the one pinching my fucking strawberries while I am out. :ar15:

onearmedbandit
5th December 2016, 18:38
Have to agree, bought a GoPro last year, used it half a dozen times on rides, 5% interesting footage, 95% deleted. Still glad I bought one though.

iYRe
5th December 2016, 19:07
Oh good times, put up recordings of you riding down a road.

That will be interesting. :yawn:

Apparently you're about as good at reading as you are at making intelligent comments. He said FOR INSURANCE - ie, recording his daily rides incase there is an accident or something. In some countries its mandatory and its quite a smart thing to do on a motorbike or bicycle. At the least if something bad happens you can go look at the footage and see if there is something you need to learn/do differently/etc.

grow a brain.


I use a Replay XD. Very easy to fit, lots of video options, full HD - pretty good overall.

Coupla negatives include 4:3 format - no 16:9. And .mov files which are fine in themselves but are a bit of a bugger if you use a windows computer.

Fact of the matter is that although I bought it for bike vids, I found very quickly that such vids are really fucking boring. So I rarely use it any more.

You can set it to do time lapse though. Quite good to see which of the neighbourhood brats is the one pinching my fucking strawberries while I am out. :ar15:

I use mine on rides to get stills later.. got some epic ones of 6-10 bikes all in a line going around a sweeper, etc. Frame by frame in adobe premier means you can pick the exact moment you want

onearmedbandit
5th December 2016, 19:24
In some countries its mandatory




Really? Which countries?

iYRe
5th December 2016, 19:53
Russia for one... its not a legal requirement, but if you dont have one you'll have trouble with insurance etc (also a higher chance of abuse by officials etc)

Akzle
5th December 2016, 19:58
Really? Which countries?

makingshitupistan

Akzle
5th December 2016, 20:02
yup. see:


Russia for one... its not a legal requirement, but...

dis ninja been watching russian dashcams on the tubez. not that they:re not lulzy, just that, that shit will marr your world view.

badassblake
5th December 2016, 20:15
Thanks to those of you that actually read my post before commenting. It's always interesting to see how many muppets trawl this site and others and try to upset people, what fun their lives must be.
Will take your info and do a bit more research.
Cheers for your time.

onearmedbandit
5th December 2016, 20:20
Russia for one... its not a legal requirement, but if you dont have one you'll have trouble with insurance etc (also a higher chance of abuse by officials etc)

Ah I see, recommended rather than mandatory.

iYRe
5th December 2016, 20:37
Ah I see, recommended rather than mandatory.

Mandatory in that if you dont have one, bad stuff will happen to you

nzspokes
5th December 2016, 21:01
Mandatory in that if you dont have one, bad stuff will happen to you

Like you wont fill the internet with boring shit?

nzspokes
5th December 2016, 21:02
grow a brain.


Oh the irony.

nzspokes
5th December 2016, 21:03
makingshitupistan

That is actually funny.

blonky
5th December 2016, 23:24
Gopro Session can be found for $200 if you look hard enough
1080p at 60fps and half the size of the normal gopro

Best feature is the auto looping - deletes the oldest footage when it runs out of space like a dashcam does

Reckless
6th December 2016, 00:41
Just bought A Contour Roam3 for my Racing from shark they are on special ATM.
I'll use it for track, and my partner to video me on the track for learning purposes, Prob vid some dirt rides aswell.
Wont bother about the road bike maybe a Group ride but primarily a learning tool which is why I went for cheap rather than best quality.
I also didnt want a Square box hanging off my helmet or fairing.

Its a good deal $261NZD landed with most of the attachments thrown in :)
http://www.sharkleathers.com.au/contour-roam-3-xmas-gift-bundle.html?utm_source=Shark+Leathers&utm_campaign=8e4a064b37-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_12_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e4a76cc057-8e4a064b37-135021041

Akzle
6th December 2016, 06:16
That is actually funny.

all my shit's funny. except for when i'm being srs, and the odd occasion when i have too much LSD and then kiwibiker.

asides from that, if you fail to find my shit hilarious, it's a problem at your end.

pritch
6th December 2016, 17:41
"Helmet mounted cameras"... are gay as shit. dont be a faggot,
and stop contributing your shit (and everyone elses) to the mass-surveillance overlords.
for fucks sakes. i might swerve my truck at the next motorcyclist i see videoing shit that nobody, but nobody, will ever give a fuck about.



Akzle, you started out well. That first line is gold. Sadly though it all went downhill from there, passing through paranoia en route to God knows where?

To the OP, I wouldn't mount a camera on a helmet. There is a camera mount fitted to my tank, it attaches to the screws that hold the filler cap. Check EBay.
Not that I use a camera, the mount is occupied by a radar detector.

The advantage of this camera mount system is that you can include your speedo in the picture. The police will be eternally grateful for your efforts in this regard. :whistle:

R650R
6th December 2016, 19:52
Have to agree, bought a GoPro last year, used it half a dozen times on rides, 5% interesting footage, 95% deleted. Still glad I bought one though.

Its often the same for professional photographers and filmers, even though you often know what type of image you want to create so many things have to come together, good composition, lighting , interesting subject etc.....
Quoting Scott Kelby but found the numbers about the same.... "go out hiking for landscape shots, 180 images, out of those about 10 are probably really good, and out of those ten maybe one or two are perfect enough to be saleable"

I've often found Gopro and also at times DSLR mounted on trucks to be good for getting frame grabs or still images in places where you cant stop to flaff about for photos.
To produce an interesting 5 min video clip to go with a magazine article I'd probablyu shoot about an hour of various footage....

Ulsterkiwi
6th December 2016, 21:16
I use contour roams, two of them, one usually on my helmet the other in a variety of places around the bike. I dont use them on the commute, just on longer trips. If in a group (and I don't feel pressured to keep up and subsequently die) I often clamp one on another bike, just to mix things up for the edit.

Anyway, the resolution is fine, the camera is much less intrusive than a gopro, battery life is pretty good, VERY simple to use and a major for me is its waterproof without needing a separate housing.

Akzle
7th December 2016, 04:46
Its often the same for professional photographers and filmers, .

...the world never seemed to have this problem when films only had 24 exposures and you had to wait a week to find out.
fuck modern tech.

Big Dog
7th December 2016, 06:51
...the world never seemed to have this problem when films only had 24 exposures and you had to wait a week to find out.
fuck modern tech.
I know what you mean. I take way too many photos trying to capture memories and seem to spend almost as long deleting the shitty half.
On the other hand, if I'm going out for the express purpose of taking photos I like to limit myself to 36 frames per subject (e.g. light) no reviewing them until I get home.
I always loaded 36 frames in my old Ricoh. Hand rolled black as white for art, Fujifilm colour for events.
I did a few events like that before I settled on a career. Right pocket with unexposed and Left with exposed. Trying to make every shot count on a fully manual SLR. Doing your best to be ready to change roll when nothing was going on.
It's just not as exciting with a DSLR.
Maybe that's why my Nikon only comes out occasionally.


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Bass
7th December 2016, 16:10
Wife bought a Sony. Image stabilisation is first rate. Has a wrist remote which is useful (to a pillion) as it has a screen and she can see what the camera sees but the Bluetooth link halves the camera battery life. Streamlined, so little drag helmet mounted.
Have to agree with previous posts about time consumption of editing.
Came home from bike trip in USA last year with 25 hours of video plus a few thousand stills. Have whittled it down to a 2.5 hour summary of our trip with 3 sound tracks (camera, commentary and music fill). Well pleased with the result and we sit down and watch it on the big screen telly from time to time. Worked out OK for a first attempt but it took fkn ages - about 1 evening on the puter for one day on the road. Was a 36 day trip.

SPman
7th December 2016, 16:31
The motorbike cops here in WA use mainly Drift Ghost cams with bar mount remote controls. A couple have 2 cameras - a Drift one side and a Countour the other ..The Drift is the preferred unit - it has a screen on the side they can play back the footage of Fuckwittus texting, wanking, etc., while they give them a ticket.

I've got a Countour Roam - fairly easy to use but doesn't have the loop ability like the Drift and the batteries don't last as long.

Akzle
7th December 2016, 17:46
Came home from bike trip in USA last year with 25 hours of video plus a few thousand stills. Have whittled it down to a 2.5 hour summary
...about 1 evening on the puter for one day on the road.

might i suggest that your doing it wrong.

you can whittle 98% of the shit (and since it is 98% shit, this isn't hard) pretty quick. splicing that shit shouldn't take long either. you might need to upgrade your OS...

...but anyway. the poor sap just wants something for his insurance company when he crashes, and he's hoping his is better than the other guys.

(fuck you wankers keep a lot of otherwise irrelevant pricks employed. (cue ocean: explain away insurance, cos economoney))

Bass
7th December 2016, 21:21
might i suggest that your doing it wrong.

Probably - as I said, first attempt at video editing


you might need to upgrade your OS...

That's also pretty likely - it was painfully slow

rastuscat
9th December 2016, 13:24
I use one of these as my default insurance claim support weapon.

Ironically, as I haven't had to use any footage yet, nobody has crossed my path that extent.

http://www.innovv.com/the-k

I'm actually not really interested in what it records, until I record something interesting. I ride conservatively, so that's pretty rare.

I've just come off Facebook, after getting hacked. I'm going to live my life without giving a toss about anyone elses life events interfering.

R650R
12th January 2017, 20:02
Watch the first 15 seconds to see two idiot drivers... then fast forward to 1min38 secs when the phone rings.

Proof phones and dashcams cause accidents in the near vicinity (sarcasm)... ironic circumstances.... timing.... I giggled anyway....

video link hoodaki not there so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxA8e9kixDs

LinkNZ
13th February 2017, 09:21
Don't get a GoPro Session, wind noise is unbearable at speeds over 30 km/h.

I will replace my Sena 10S with this when it comes out.

https://www.sena.com/product/10cevo/

Daffyd
15th February 2017, 00:10
Really? Which countries?

Soon to be in the Philippines on cars, trucks and buses and I'm picking bikes soon afterwards.