76 and still working....

[98tls]

All this yap re raising the retirement age had me thinking of a conversation i had recently with the driver of one of the red etc Commodore motorway patrol cars (yep on the side of road) and during said conversation he told me he was 76 years old,the whole incident was kinda weird but i left mobile which i shouldnt have all things considered so thought myself lucky and fucked off:yes: 76 jesus really? :blink:Anyone else know of anyone working full time at such an age?Fwiw the bloke looked barely 65 let alone the rest.

[Akzle]

not full time, no.
or perhaps i should say, not gainfully employed full time.

for plenty of people, they stop working: they die.

if you have your health and enjoy what you do, why not?


...along with many of the other horseshit ideas of old-society, "age" as a demographic, is a useless one.

[AllanB]

That's odd - I would have though he would have been given compulsory retirement at that age in that job.


A few years back I employed a old bugger in the warehouse packing product he was 80 odd and had a second job driving a firewood delivery truck, and helped out at the Sally Army. Very fit, lovely man. Ran rings around some other 20 somethings we had had doing the same job prior to him!

But fuck this shit - I was a Powerball win so I can give up work and concentrate on my ...... alternative interests.

[98tls]

That's odd - I would have though he would have been given compulsory retirement at that age in that job.


A few years back I employed a old bugger in the warehouse packing product he was 80 odd and had a second job driving a firewood delivery truck, and helped out at the Sally Army. Very fit, lovely man. Ran rings around some other 20 somethings we had had doing the same job prior to him!

But fuck this shit - I was a Powerball win so I can give up work and concentrate on my ...... alternative interests.

Yea what i thought to but cant see why he would bullshit me re his age,as i said the whole deal was kinda weirds i was travelling somewhat and just didnt pick him until the lights came on so given i was fucked for all money pulled over and waited for him to get outta traffic and u turn his way back,he asked "what i was up to etc" i tell him "just been up to CH-CH to call in on my old mum etc" he asked "how old the old girl was" i reply "75"
he replys "a year younger than me blah blah blah" after a bit more yapping off he lets me go:wacko: Nice bloke and got my respect as no shit i complied with the posted speed limit all the way home which is no mean feat given the (yawn) road i was on,76 jesus it doesnt make sense.

[98tls]

not full time, no.
or perhaps i should say, not gainfully employed full time.

for plenty of people, they stop working: they die.

if you have your health and enjoy what you do, why not?


...along with many of the other horseshit ideas of old-society, "age" as a demographic, is a useless one.

Yea mate i understand the part time thing my old lady at 75 is back on the 111 switchboard 2 days a week after the damage in Wellington,when she told me they had rung and asked that she do i was a bit fucked off and told her to pass but shes happy doing it so be it but full time at 76 seems harsh,mind you crusing about in a late model Commodore for good coin wouldnt probably be to bad i guess.

[Akzle]

full time at 76 seems harsh,mind you crusing about in a late model Commodore for good coin wouldnt probably be to bad i guess.

if it's voluntary, power to them.
(and it pretty much is, (or insert Ocean1: they should have saved more cos money))

being a dog doesn't exactly provide you with a divers skillset, and if he has no hobbies to go home to... maybe his wife is really ugly, who knows. but the need/want to fill your days with (social?) interaction, meaning, is well ingrained in most (old) people. (not like these ruddy layabouts now days, sitting on their interwebs and twitting all bloody day, need a damned haircut and a real job, i say!)

Many people define themselves by their employ, he's probably pretty happy being known at the pub as "the old copper"
and when he gives that up, sure he gets the awesome retirement package, maybe a plaque at the station, a hat, but that leaves him with no identity.

time and again, i've seen old folk give up work, and die (within a statistically relevant time) whereas there's plenty of old buggers still doing the slog.

[Katman]

He probably said 67 and your ears just aren't what they used to be.

[Blackbird]

Anyone else know of anyone working full time at such an age?Fwiw the bloke looked barely 65 let alone the rest.

Placemakers in Whitianga is filled with people like that. I reckon they retire to the Coromandel, get bored and start working there. Everyone wins because they know their shit and are happy to be pleasant human beings that you can have a laugh with as well as get top service.

Gotta have a fall-back if you retire. I retired at 60 so my wife and I could do stuff whilst the body was in reasonable nick. Do voluntary work with IAM which means that I can ride the bike a lot without getting grizzled at :whistle: , sea fishing and travelling with my wife and setting a poor example for the grandkids. No time to get bored :laugh:

[98tls]

He probably said 67 and your ears just aren't what they used to be.
;) Na mate as i posted he said he was a year older than my old mum,that said nothing about me is what it used to be so fair call.;)

[98tls]

Placemakers in Whitianga is filled with people like that. I reckon they retire to the Coromandel, get bored and start working there. Everyone wins because they know their shit and are happy to be pleasant human beings that you can have a laugh with as well as get top service.

Gotta have a fall-back if you retire. I retired at 60 so my wife and I could do stuff whilst the body was in reasonable nick. Do voluntary work with IAM which means that I can ride the bike a lot without getting grizzled at :whistle: , sea fishing and travelling with my wife and setting a poor example for the grandkids. No time to get bored :laugh:

Fair call,this bloke was around 20k north of Ashburton so he needs to move the difference to death and living in Ashburton wouldnt be noticeable.

[eldog]

time and again, i've seen old folk give up work, and die (within a statistically relevant time) whereas there's plenty of old buggers still doing the slog.
+1 I have see this happen a lot, most often to those who have had a stressful job, not really having a life outside of work, they suddenly retire rather than wind down and find something else. They finish work, fix up the house, garden, car, maybe move to somewhere then get bored or drop dead within 6 months.

good on these guys for working in places like placemakers, those guys have a lot of info that I have found useful. Practical stuff that if your a novice you find out the hardway etc.

the older generation have nothing to prove, but can offer a lot.

those who have had a std life and still have an interest/hobby/grandkids etc seem to live longer. Often giving up once the other half has passed on.....

[Akzle]

I think those that die soon after retirement must have enjoyed their jobit's a shift, whether you enjoyed it or not, from slaving for 50-80% of your waking hours for jewgolds, to having time to make decisions for yourself. most people haven't been bred or trained for it.


the jobs that I ended up doing prior to retirement were not that pleasant.

that doesn't surprise me at all.

[Akzle]

those who have had a std life and still have an interest/hobby/grandkids etc seem to live longer. Often giving up once the other half has passed on.....

the old joke: why do men die before their wives?



A: because they WANT to.



but yeah. seems the old whiteys don't adapt well to change later in life. a broad brush, i know, and there's plenty that live active engaged lives after the death of their partner, but just as many (more?) that just check out...

[Voltaire]

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jewgold,ffst,jewgold,ffst,jewgold,ffst..... repeat year after year until dead.

[eldog]

there's plenty that live active engaged lives after the death of their partner, but just as many (more?) that just check out...

I suspect this has a lot to do with relationships and what else they are involved in.

men generally seem to loose interest, while women like to be involved in the community, family or other interests keep them active.

yes a broad brush. But one I have seen time and again with the same sector of society.

myself I find the older generation much more interesting than the younger ones. The stories, the can do attitude and the characters out can meet.

[eldog]

I think those that die soon after retirement must have enjoyed their job and not everyone enjoys their job up untill they retire. I have been retired 6 years and have felt no emotional shock from giving up work as the jobs that I ended up doing prior to retirement were not that pleasant.

There are periods I really enjoy my work, there are generally longer periods that I don't. I find having to rely on others can be depressing, due to the changes in attitudes in society today.

the good periods are worth it because it allows me to have a better std of living than if I lived and worked elsewhere.

[jasonu]

I think those that die soon after retirement must have enjoyed their job and not everyone enjoys their job up untill they retire. I have been retarded since birth and have felt no emotional shock from giving up work as the jobs that I ended up doing prior to retirement were not that pleasant.

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[Maha]

Not full time but Dad is 80 and has just handed in his notice to finish at Xmas. He has been working 9am-1pm for a couple of years now.

He gave retirement a go 15 years ago and Mum bought him Sky TV, he sat around and watched Sky TV most of the day so Mum got rid of it and he went back to work...they have Sky again but it doesn't rule his time. He came into a great deal of money earlier this year and we told him to get out and enjoy it, hopefully that is what they'll do.

[MarkW]

In the early 1980's the company that I was the accountant for went to put all of the staff onto Southern Cross medical. The staff all filled out the forms and I gave them to the Southern Cross lady. She came back to me with a problem. One of the sheet metal workers who did 8 hours a day 4 days a week [the 5th day was his fishing day!] was 76 and was therefore too old to go onto Southern Cross. Ernie finally decided to retire just after he turned 80. As an aside, the YOUNGEST worker in the sheet metal area was 64. I have a number of clients well into their 70's who still lead full and active lives, most of which include a decent period at work each week. Stops them from getting bored most of them advise me.

[Oakie]

That's odd - I would have though he would have been given compulsory retirement at that age in that job. .

Can't enforce retirement in any job due to the Human Rights Act (discrimination on grounds of age). Military may be the only area not covered.

[Oakie]

Where I work we have just under 100 employees (full time through to casual). Our oldest is 75 and a couple more in their 70's with quite a few over 65. One of those retired a few years ago but got so sick of her family telling her what to do she came back to work full time a couple of years ago. The other side of that though is that in my time there, a couple of our over 70s got pancreatic cancer and died without even having a retirement.

My plan is to work until I'm 68. Partly because why not earn good money for a few years past 65 if you can still do the job. The reason '68' specifically is that Mrs Oakie has told me I'm not allowed to retire while she still works and as I'm 3 years older than her ... and I know she won't work a day past 65 ... that means 68 for me.

[george formby]

The previous owner of my house decided to qualify as a Doctor in his late sixties. I believe he practised for about twenty years.

A number of friends are in their 70's and still actively being full time builders, carpenters, ship wrights, engineers etc, all inspirational people.

I'm 50 in six months, a sobering thought, and embarking on a whole new career, new skill set to learn and attitudes to broaden and adjust. When not earning I'm challenging myself by improving my riding ability, I've started trials and enduro, and learning how to be a general handy man in the garden and house. I've never owned a house, garden or tools until 4 years ago. Their is a lot to learn, lol.

I'm not looking forward to retiring or stopping anything, I want to continue my life and all the new experiences it can bring. Use it or lose it. Never to old, etc.

[Akzle]

.

myself I find the older generation much more interesting than the younger ones. The stories, the can do attitude and the characters out can meet.

yeah, see, i dont put a lot of stock in "age" (except that the old people that have shaped/allowed society to develop as it has, and pushed the snowball of environmental-appocalypse off the top of the hill)

there's boring old farts, and there's boring children, and then there's many and divers interesting people of all demographs, too.
the old systems of dividing people are (always have been) irrelevant.

age is only a number, and you'll only ever be as old as (the women) you feel.

[eldog]

yeah, see, i dont put a lot of stock in "age" (except that the old people that have shaped/allowed society to develop as it has, and pushed the snowball of environmental-appocalypse off the top of the hill)

there's boring old farts, and there's boring children, and then there's many and divers interesting people of all demographs, too.
the old systems of dividing people are (always have been) irrelevant.

age is only a number, and you'll only ever be as old as (the women) you feel.

Yes, age isn't a limitation, only a yardstick for experience.

have you ever visited a rest home where they are all lined up looking out the entrance?
the 'hard to handle ones are generally drugged out'.
But you only have to start up a conversation and see the faces come alive.

while not applicable to all.

Some people like to return to work even only if part time, to get away.....

one of the places I worked at had 2 people in their late 80s turn up for work, usually just waiting for an upstart (me) to train.

[Akzle]

have you ever visited a rest home where they are all lined up looking out the entrance?
the 'hard to handle ones are generally drugged out'.
But you only have to start up a conversation and see the faces come alive.



no. i actually find that whole white "flog them for all they're worth during the productive years of their life then put them somewhere out of the way to die" attitude quite distasteful.
consequently, don't much care for rest homes.

[haydes55]

I'm 25 and still working full time. I might retire in 5 years or so.

[slofox]

...being a dog doesn't exactly provide you with a divers skillset, and if he has no hobbies to go home to... maybe his wife is really ugly, who knows. but the need/want to fill your days with (social?) interaction, meaning, is well ingrained in most (old) people. (not like these ruddy layabouts now days, sitting on their interwebs and twitting all bloody day, need a damned haircut and a real job, i say!) :laugh:

Many people define themselves by their employ, he's probably pretty happy being known at the pub as "the old copper"
and when he gives that up, sure he gets the awesome retirement package, maybe a plaque at the station, a hat, but that leaves him with no identity.

time and again, i've seen old folk give up work, and die (within a statistically relevant time) whereas there's plenty of old buggers still doing the slog.


Yep. Well said. I have seen it many times over too. One school principal hung on for ages to complete his years to get his pension. He lasted four terms after retirement.

That's why I have been practicing for years to be a fucking idle lazy layabout...:bleh:

[george formby]

I'm 25 and still working full time. I might retire in 5 years or so.


Hmmm, that could have merit. Live fast, die young, don't burden the system. And no need to save money which could be spent on, er, entertainment.

[eldog]

no. i actually find that whole "flog them for all they're worth during the productive years of their life then put them somewhere out of the way to die" attitude quite distasteful.
consequently, don't much care for rest homes.

Me neither, but sometimes needs must.

[eldog]

Hmmm, that could have merit. Live fast, die young, don't burden the system. And no need to save money which could be spent on, er, entertainment.
There's entertainment?:whistle:

[pritch]

That's odd - I would have though he would have been given compulsory retirement at that age in that job.


There is no complusory retirement now, that would breach the Human Rights Act.

When I was in the Army they had rules about retiring age according to rank, I understand that has gone now. Some jobs like the armed forces and Police can have tests of physical fitness but failing those won't mean you're out, typically it would mean you'd be reassigned to lighter duties. Promotion prospects would be zero though.

Where I was working most seem to retire at seventy now.

The government will need to be careful reviewing the retirement age. People in sedentry occupations can hang in there for years, but people in physically hard labouring jobs just might not be able to keep working until 67 or 70 or whatever. There might need to be an earlier retirement option for people in physically demanding jobs?

[george formby]

There's entertainment?:whistle:

I must admit to posting that quip with Axolotl's penchant for hookers and cocaine in mind. Each to their own, I keep buying more bikes and bigger tools.

Good point on retirement age and physical ability, it's the reason I'm moving into something new. The last 35 years has taken it's toll on me physically and I realised my days in the front line are numbered, so abandoned my comfort zone, professionally and financially.

[Akzle]

There might need to be an earlier retirement option for people in physically demanding jobs?

science reckons 86% of jobs are going to be done by machines a'fore too long.

the very idea of "a job" will need to change.

[pete376403]

He came into a great deal of money earlier this year .

That could help a lot, but most people probably wont have that advantage.

[Grumph]

The government will need to be careful reviewing the retirement age. People in sedentry occupations can hang in there for years, but people in physically hard labouring jobs just might not be able to keep working until 67 or 70 or whatever. There might need to be an earlier retirement option for people in physically demanding jobs?

There used to be an interim retirement benefit available from 60. It was available if you had been on sickness or invalids benefit and were not likely to be available for work again. National scrapped it afaik.
For those in hard physical jobs in the next 10 - 15 years or so and approaching 65, something similar may have to be reintroduced.

[Voltaire]

science reckons 86% of jobs are going to be done by machines a'fore too long.

the very idea of "a job" will need to change.

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[awayatc]

Normally work 5 months a year....ish
Have been forever and a day...
Think of slowing down a bit though
Be pushing doing 3 months next year...

Is plenty
Love my time off

[mrchips]

If you are physically able.. why not.

I have the fortune of experiencing those coming up through the ranks, full of enthusiasm & all answers (tui add)

All I know is, as I start to ripen & mature at age 47, I have developed the utmost respect for my elder work colleagues.

The experience & wisdome & compassion that comes with age is priceless.

As the saying goes... young, dum & full of cum.



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[Akzle]

Most people must be coping with the transition very well though otherwise there would be no need to raise the retirement age as everyone would be dropping dead through not being able to cope with the transition as you say.

this is why we can't have nice things.

fuckwittus ad absurdum.

[Maha]

fuckwittus ad absurdum.

Now regretting getting that tattoo?

[TheDemonLord]

All I can say is, that without puzzles to solve and things to create, I'd probably go batshit crazy.

[pritch]

science reckons 86% of jobs are going to be done by machines a'fore too long.


Science says that ghosts have neither mass nor energy therefore they can exist only in the minds of men.
Science though has neither mass nor energy so it too can exist only in the minds of men. *

Science may not have thought this one through. If 86% of the population are unemployed and the few people with all the money won't pay their full share of tax, how does that work? It'd be very difficult to talk Kiwis into a revolution, they're far too apathetic. That might just about do it though?



* I'm a believer in correctly attributing quotes but I don't recall where I got that, nor can I find it now.

[Akzle]

Well will you at least let me lick your ring hole?
no. moohard.
now fuckaway, the adults are discussing shit.




Science may not have thought this one through. If 86% of the population are unemployed and the few people with all the money won't pay their full share of tax, how does that work? It'd be very difficult to talk Kiwis into a revolution, they're far too apathetic. That might just about do it though?


it's not that SCIENCE hasn't thought it through, just that glabalist-capitalist-jew cunts (/ "society") haven't.

there's been a fair inevitability about it since the industrial revolution.
the "labour market" simply can't absorb the thing. the monetary metric is fucked.
humans might have to come up with some other way of dealing with each other...


vote akzle.

[Ocean1]

Hmmm, that could have merit. Live fast, die young, don't burden the system. And no need to save money which could be spent on, er, entertainment.

Was the father in law's stock advice: "Live fast, die young and have a good looking corpse."

That, and: "Son, never buy anything with a handle."

Me, I'm retiring gradually. This year I got it down to about 50 hrs/week, next year will be 40, year after 30, etc. Figure I'll still be in attendance and working full time (ish), but it'll be increasingly just for me.

[Black Knight]

Your father in law and James Dean

[pritch]

On the BBC Global News podcast this morning they interviewed a Professor at a West Australian University. He is 102 but he doesn't want to retire. The university considered him a health and safety risk because his office was upstairs and they would have to send someone to help him down the stairs in the event of an emergency.

He has been allowed to continue working, but they have moved him to a ground floor office at a another campus closer to his home. He is not happy, there are no other science related people at his new location and there is nobody he can talk to about scientific matters.

It's nice that they tried to accommodate him, but just a shame they didn't try a little harder. After all, the arrangements probably weren't going to need to be *that* long term.