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Ocean1
23rd August 2017, 12:02
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/96033791/renters-v-landlords-the-argument-for-regulation

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/91963642/your-rental-property-horror-stories

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neels
23rd August 2017, 19:28
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/96033791/renters-v-landlords-the-argument-for-regulation

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/91963642/your-rental-property-horror-stories

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Where to start......

Permanent tenancies means a sub class of housing where the owner has no incentive to improve, a rental WOF will mean maintained to the absolute minimum standard. Not to mention a whole lot of first home buyers losing their equity when the market gets flooded with houses for sale, and a whole lot of tenants finding themselves homeless when they get evicted before the new rules come in so the house can get sold.

Will the WOF apply to all housing, and the council condemn as unlivable any housing that doesn't meet the standard? I see a lot of private owners being turfed out of their houses until they are up to standard.

If the tax refunds for landlords are removed, expect rents to increase to the actual cost of providing housing, house prices may drop but the costs for existing landlords won't.

If the tax refund on the average rental is a few thousand a year, can the govt or another entity provide a rental for someone to live in for the same total cost? I suspect not, and the difference will come from the taxpayer, which will be a much bigger number than what it costs now.

Capital gains tax? Fair enough if you sell within x number of years of buying a house you don't live in, on your own home only if you can also claim any expenses for owning and/or improving your home, I can see the accountants rubbing their hands together with glee at the mere thought......

R650R
23rd August 2017, 19:54
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/96033791/renters-v-landlords-the-argument-for-regulation

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/91963642/your-rental-property-horror-stories

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Holy ferk at the second story, if your baby is that cold buy some more wooly blamkets or something, unbelieveable.

Can see both sides of this story. The place I just bough has evidence of minor mould at some stage yet is dry as a bone structurally. Since I took over eradicated completely. But then I was raised with a grandmother who would religiously open every window in the house at 5am to ventilate the insides regardless of weather extremes! I do the same in mornings and afternoon plus wipe down any damp windows.
I think living skills 101 is missing for many people, eg open kitchen windows when cooking and boiling the jug etc....

I know people in Toke and its pretty desperate up there. At any time there are only 5-6 house available for rent, probably derelict shite holes in gang streets but there are about 100-200 house for sale. Several investors there own large swathes of property distorting the market. Looked at buyiong rental up there awhile ago but too far away to economically maintain. about 150-200k would buy you a nice house in good area that would attract quality tenant. An influx og construction workers for Lichfield cheese plant and other projects has put serious accommodation pressure on too. Also so the local council is about to pull the pin on very low income and ex prison rleasee's from staying long term in local holiday/caravan parks (no one will rent to them), a storm is brewing.

I've lived in a couple of damp rentals in Auckland, its an insidious issue that creeps up on you even when you can afford to buy the mould control spray etc... Its not until you move somewhere clean and dry you realise how bad it was.
Still, wheres the councils and authorities acting on these issues.

Ocean1
24th August 2017, 08:06
If the tax refunds for landlords are removed,..

What tax refunds?

Ocean1
24th August 2017, 08:12
Can see both sides of this story.

A balancing act which is not only obviously missing from the article but from the tenants association itself.

Their objectives are just that, theirs, and there's no reason their tenants shouldn't address them themselves, breaking out some cleaning kit as required.

Or even, dog forbid, paying the same cost to provide the fucking house the landlord did.

HEsch
24th August 2017, 08:38
I too was raised to open the curtains and windows when I got up in the morning, and air the house. I can see how hard it is when you aren't home during the day (I leave at 6.30am and my flatmates depart about an hour after me, so no one is home until 5pm or later - we can't leave anything open). But, simple things like opening curtains in the morning (I do this in the dark most of the time because no one else will bother) and opening windows when you are home do make a big difference.

On the landlord front... I can see both sides. I think there should be standards to meet, in terms of being well maintained, but I don't think landlords are the 'bad' people in this kind of situation. While trying to find another person for my rental house I joined a couple of facebook groups - the number on there who either can't afford decent rent, don't have credit, actively say they have bad credit or don't have a bond... Yet they want a minimum number of rooms, a certain area of town, a garage, they have dogs/cats, etc etc.
Where is the thought about how long and hard the landlord saved in order to buy the property? I know it took me over 10 years to amass my deposit, and now I get to pay the mortgage as a reward.