Road works , chip seal

[scooterboynz]

Hello all , question , would you over take other traffic on your bike on freshly laid chip seal with a 30kph limit ?

I was heading home in my work wagon when a guy overtook me (I was going 60kph) and sprayed me with stones , I my opinion he gives us other bikers a bad rap!
just my 2 cents worth ,,,,, and that's what grinds my gears!

[russd7]

Hello all , question , would you over take other traffic on your bike on freshly laid chip seal with a 30kph limit ?

I was heading home in my work wagon when a guy overtook me (I was going 60kph) and sprayed me with stones , I my opinion he gives us other bikers a bad rap!
just my 2 cents worth ,,,,, and that's what grinds my gears!

had cars do that to me, effen tossers.

[Zedder]

Hello all , question , would you over take other traffic on your bike on freshly laid chip seal with a 30kph limit ?

I was heading home in my work wagon when a guy overtook me (I was going 60kph) and sprayed me with stones , I my opinion he gives us other bikers a bad rap!
just my 2 cents worth ,,,,, and that's what grinds my gears!


Could you just clarify the situation? It appears from what you've posted you were in a 30kph area doing 60kph?

[Oakie]

Each situation on its merits but having done 600 metres on fresh loose chip about 3 hours ago, I can't see myself overtaking on loose chip. For one you're changing direction on a loose surface, two, you're braking efficiency is reduced if you or someone else gets it wrong but mainly no because you're going to be getting out of the track worn by other vehicles and into a deeper collection of chip ... at a time when you're accelerating and changing direction a bit.

[scooterboynz]

Could you just clarify the situation? It appears from what you've posted you were in a 30kph area doing 60kph?

That's correct I was breakin tha law ! So I was in my work wagon , heading home , normally a 100kph zone , sign posted 30kph , me doing 60kph , fresh that day chip seal , guy on a sports tourer came up behind me then pulled out , went past and sprayed me with stones , no other traffic , rural road , road works ended approx 300 meters later , so he could have waited 10 seconds and passed with no issues .

[scooterboynz]

oh and I forgot to mention , this part of the road is normally a double yellow line as a blind crest but due to fresh seal obviously no lines

[Zedder]

That's correct I was breakin tha law ! So I was in my work wagon , heading home , normally a 100kph zone , sign posted 30kph , me doing 60kph , fresh that day chip seal , guy on a sports tourer came up behind me then pulled out , went past and sprayed me with stones , no other traffic , rural road , road works ended approx 300 meters later , so he could have waited 10 seconds and passed with no issues .


Given you were breaking the law, and in a "work wagon", that automatically gives the person on the motorcycle the right to do whatever they want.

[scooterboynz]

Given you were breaking the law, and in a "work wagon", that automatically gives the person on the motorcycle the right to do whatever they want.

How do you figure that? I am self employed so the work wagon is mine , and who does 30kph on road works? Not many , if any , the point I am making is the guy on the bike was a twat ! Plain and simple !
No respect for other people

[Swoop]

No respect for other people
Since you have chosen to be a criminal and break the law, then it's fine for others to do the same and you have removed the right to complain about it.

IF you were doing 30kmh, then you have some moral high-ground to stand on.

[george formby]

How do you figure that? I am self employed so the work wagon is mine , and who does 30kph on road works? Not many , if any , the point I am making is the guy on the bike was a twat ! Plain and simple !
No respect for other people

How fast would you have been traveling if their was other traffic?

Yup, dude on the bike was being a knob but I'm keen to here how considerate you are.

I'm fed up to the back teeth with numptys chucking rocks at me. Some retards, locally, use fresh gravel seal to practice drifting. I had a new windscreen put in a couple of weeks ago.

On gravel I only overtake if I can do so without the rock shower.

[Zedder]

How do you figure that? I am self employed so the work wagon is mine , and who does 30kph on road works? Not many , if any , the point I am making is the guy on the bike was a twat ! Plain and simple !
No respect for other people


Refer to Swoops post for explanation. Plus, you were probably showering the motorcyclist with stones at that speed.

[oldiebutagoody]

Refer to Swoops post for explanation. Plus, you were probably showering the motorcyclist with stones at that speed.

That sir, is probably a very valid explanation...........

[FJRider]

... the point I am making is the guy on the bike was a twat ! Plain and simple !
No respect for other people

You are the sanctimonious twat ... going twice the posted limit on new seal and probably showering the dude on the bike with stones. And then have the bloody minded gall to suggest he should have put up with it for another 300 meters ... :blink:

And then you come on this site bitching HE has no respect for other people .. and that HE is giving motorcyclists a bad name ... :lol:

Pull your head in fella ...

[AllanB]

Sounds cunty to me.

And the excuse that you may have been showering him/her with stones because you were doing 60 is bullshit. If you were doing 60 and he/she 30 as posted you'd be way ahead ....

Still - no one but Cass follows indicated signs, both technically in the wrong, the bike more so.

Done, move along, you'll see worse shit on the road by Monday.

[nzspokes]

How do you figure that? I am self employed so the work wagon is mine , and who does 30kph on road works? Not many , if any , the point I am making is the guy on the bike was a twat ! Plain and simple !
No respect for other people

Guys working on the roads love guys like you blasting stones at them.

[FJRider]

oh and I forgot to mention , this part of the road is normally a double yellow line as a blind crest but due to fresh seal obviously no lines

In a zone of less than a third of the normal posted speed limit area .... you were perhaps expecting to meet traffic going the same (excess) speed as you ???

If you were at the temporary posted limit ... it would have been safer for all ... (even you) :rolleyes:

And the self centered prick you are .... thinks you have a right to whinge ... :killingme

[Akzle]

fucken jews

[FJRider]

Sounds cunty to me.

And the excuse that you may have been showering him/her with stones because you were doing 60 is bullshit. If you were doing 60 and he/she 30 as posted you'd be way ahead ....

Still - no one but Cass follows indicated signs, both technically in the wrong, the bike more so.

Done, move along, you'll see worse shit on the road by Monday.

He made no mention of how long the bike was behind him ... in (or before) the road works. Nor any mention that he knew the motorcyclist was there ... until he got overtaken by him.

[george formby]

I must say, good confidence on sport/tourer rider. If the OP is doing 60 in his manly ute and the rider is chucking rocks as he passes on his road attired bike, that's commitment and confidence. Most road bike riders I know dawdle through gravel.

I did see a Kwaka H2 in Paihia recently which was coated in gravel dust. Most impressed I was. Tires weren't chewed up, though... :sweatdrop

[AllanB]

He made no mention of how long the bike was behind him ... in (or before) the road works. Nor any mention that he knew the motorcyclist was there ... until he got overtaken by him.

The motorcycle was behind him - had to be to pass him. He was doing twice the posted limit. Bike passed doing greater ....

If said bike was doing the posted limit of 30 and car doing 60 they would never have meet. And no post on KB.

Two wrongs make a post on KB :devil2:



Hey - more importantly relating to road works - they have been hacking a piece of my fav road - have a section here a patch there - fucking stupid mess that would fall apart like it did last time. Anyway, I get off work early today - go for a fat on the bike - the whole area has now been dug up and ready for a decent resurface of the entire road (someone high up must have shown some common sense) however it is presently unsealed ... and they had just wet it. What a mess on the Ducati. Still cleaned off tonight and a decent tidy-up tomorrow with some nice craft beers. A good way to end the week.

[granstar]

That sir, is probably a very valid explanation...........

I sit on the fence, there are times in similar situations where some pull across to the left shoulder and spray you (why ...being discourteous while trying to be courteous?) , so either you pull way back or pass depending on the road conditions.

The case in hand I would have pulled back, for the sake of a few seconds, share the road, not the road surface.

[jasonu]

fucken jews

Trumps fault!

[awayatc]

I don't get this thread

None of it......

[jasonu]

I don't get this thread

None of it......

In a nutshell...One guy that was driving like a cunt is complaining about another guy that was apparently driving like an even bigger cunt.

[FJRider]

In a nutshell...One guy that was driving like a cunt is complaining about another guy that was apparently driving like an even bigger cunt.

And later both cunts will moan about the shit job of tar sealing that was done on that stretch of road ... :pinch:

[Moi]

Trumps fault!

Alternative facts...




this forum is full of 'em

[swarfie]

And later both cunts will moan about the shit job of tar sealing that was done on that stretch of road ... :pinch:

Just for your information, (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) but get caught speeding through road works and the fine for any given over-speed is DOUBLED and so are the demerit points. A friend of mine who was sitting on two lots of demerits lost his licence for doing 7km/hr over the posted speed limit in a road works area. Think about that next time you speed through roadworks and shower shit all over the guys working there.:not:

[Jin]

Since you have chosen to be a criminal and break the law, then it's fine for others to do the same and you have removed the right to complain about it.

IF you were doing 30kmh, then you have some moral high-ground to stand on.
So speeding is immoral? I thought Akzle was full of shit but you win.

[Luckylegs]

So speeding is immoral? I thought Akzle was full of shit but you win.

I thought cassina's comprehension and abilty to make 2 + 2 = 9 was un-paralleled

BUT YOU WIN

[Zedder]

So speeding is immoral? I thought Akzle was full of shit but you win.


Heh, now you've done it.

There's probably going be a session on morality, ethics, law, maybe even sin (please no!) and it really just boils down to what Jasonu wrote.

[Swoop]

So speeding is immoral? I thought Akzle was full of shit but you win.

No, speeding is fine and to be totally encouraged.:scooter:
The issue is once you have chosen to break the law, as the OP clearly states he was doing, then all attempts to sit on the moral high-ground and throw rocks at others is pointless.

[pritch]

There are some strange little threads on KB. This is another one.:innocent:

[Moi]

... maybe even sin...

We're all ears! :psst: :devil2:

[FJRider]

Just for your information, (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) but get caught speeding through road works and the fine for any given over-speed is DOUBLED and so are the demerit points. A friend of mine who was sitting on two lots of demerits lost his licence for doing 7km/hr over the posted speed limit in a road works area. Think about that next time you speed through roadworks and shower shit all over the guys working there.:not:

For your information ... I have searched for any legislation regarding the speed (enforcement policy) through temporary speed zones ... and found no evidence of such in current legislation.

There was (apparently) difficulty for Law Enforcement Authority's to enforce temporary speed limits. It was proposed that the changes you stated were introduced, but through due process of law they not.

The only change in policy regarding speed in temporary speed zones ... is 50 km/hr over the limit and automatic 28 day license suspension occurs. As opposed to 40 km/hr over the limit in fixed speed zones. So 80 km/hr through a 30 km speed zone will (could) see you walking home. And possibly vehicle impounded (at the officers discretion).

The usual demerits apply ... regarding amount of speed over the posted (temporary) speed limit.

[Akzle]

Alternative facts...




this forum is full of 'em
rbgiafp

I thought.
vho do you think you're kidding??


I thought cassina's comprehension and abilty to make 2 + 2 = 9 was un-paralleled

BUT YOU WIN
well actually it's 8, but it's under a lot of pressure to keep up so looks like 9 >_>


There was (apparently) difficulty for Law Enforcement Authority's to enforce temporary speed limits. It was proposed that the changes you stated were introduced, but through due process of law they not.

*legslation

but also, and i'm not sure if this was wellingtown or went nationwide, but they're not allowed to camera van (and maybe infringement notice?) within 150m of a change-in-speed zone.
so shorter road-works may be able to be blatted through...

[pritch]

The only change in policy regarding speed in temporary speed zones ... is 50 km/hr over the limit and automatic 28 day license suspension occurs. As opposed to 40 km/hr over the limit in fixed speed zones. So 80 km/hr through a 30 km speed zone will (could) see you walking home. And possibly vehicle impounded (at the officers discretion).


And that does require care because it is very easy to do.

[jasonu]

Just for your information, (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) but get caught speeding through road works and the fine for any given over-speed is DOUBLED t:

That's how it is here. They even put up signs at the beginning of construction areas saying so.

[FJRider]

... so shorter road-works may be able to be blatted through...

Roving (or parked) Highway patrols ... have a liking for patrolling near road works ... seldom the need for a high speed chase either.


They also ping a few going past School buses a bit faster than the 20 km/hr required. In a 100 km/hr zone ... faster than 60 km/hr past such busses ... will have you walking for 28 days as well ...

[FJRider]

According to legislation though ... fines of no more than $1000 for offenses in temporary speed zones ... no big deal eh ... :lol:

[Tazz]

Some high horses about.

Unless people are actively working on the road it shouldn't be left at 30kph 9 times out of 10 anyway.

[Akzle]

According to legislation though ... fines of no more than $1000 for offenses in temporary speed zones ... no big deal eh ... :lol:

well, pretty much yeah. i mean. who's silly enough to actually pay the cunts??

[FJRider]

Some high horses about.

Unless people are actively working on the road it shouldn't be left at 30kph 9 times out of 10 anyway.

It's simply to cover the ass of the contractors. Anyone that crashes at speeds greater than 30 km/hr gets the blame and fines ...

I worked on road works sites many years ago ... and it was usual to leave the signs up, but 50 km/hr was the usual road works speed. If the road was intact (or of minimal risk) .... signs were removed.

Signs of the times maybe ...

[Berries]

Just for your information, (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) but get caught speeding through road works and the fine for any given over-speed is DOUBLED and so are the demerit points.
Yeah, but only on even numbered weekdays with a rising tide.

[Tazz]

It's simply to cover the ass of the contractors. Anyone that crashes at speeds greater than 30 km/hr gets the blame and fines ...

I worked on road works sites many years ago ... and it was usual to leave the signs up, but 50 km/hr was the usual road works speed. If the road was intact (or of minimal risk) .... signs were removed.

Signs of the times maybe ...

/laziness. Why change signs everyday when you don't have to.
Most roadworks are in better condition than gravel roads, which often have 100kph limits.
(For obvious (to some) reasons I'm not saying roadworks should be 100k once they knock off for the day just to get in before one of the 'sun shining out of ass' bright candles here jumps on that.)

For a patch of resealing they can leave those signs out for a week or two before they come sweep up and finish the job, or they just do the alternative and take them all away before the sweep up and finish the job. Can't win :laugh:
Maybe it all depends if an officer wants to hide behind a bush and ping some road terrorists beforehand or not?