Trailers...

[Paul in NZ]

Well since you are a bunch of mechanically minded opinionated bastards I may as well ask here...

So - Vicki and I are going to buy another trailer. Last one we had was an inherited home built job that gave me the heebeegeebees every time I used it until I just dragged it to the dump one day and left it there... (dump guy thought all his Christmases' had come at once)

So - I'm thinking 7 x 4 single axle - only used for garden rubbish, camping and hauling kayaks...

Feeling I should avoid kitset ones from Save Barn....

What about Mitre 10? Seem awfully cheap... Maybe too cheap? https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/jobmate-trailer-7-x-4/p/203476

NZ built ones seem to be about $2,200

Any experience?

[onearmedbandit]

Briford trailers are hugely popular, ChCh made with dealers across the country.

http://www.briford.co.nz/dealers.html

[jasonu]

Get a dual axle with brakes if you can afford it.

[Paul in NZ]

Get a dual axle with brakes if you can afford it.

Thanks for the input - but - No I cant afford it and I don't want it - its not needed and poor old car would turn its self inside out towing it

[Viking01]

Well since you are a bunch of mechanically minded opinionated bastards I may as well ask here...

So - Vicki and I are going to buy another trailer. Last one we had was an inherited home built job that gave me the heebeegeebees every time I used it until I just dragged it to the dump one day and left it there... (dump guy thought all his Christmases' had come at once)

So - I'm thinking 7 x 4 single axle - only used for garden rubbish, camping and hauling kayaks...

Feeling I should avoid kitset ones from Save Barn....

What about Mitre 10? Seem awfully cheap... Maybe too cheap? https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/jobmate-trailer-7-x-4/p/203476

NZ built ones seem to be about $2,200

Any experience?

Since you're based up in Kapiti, perhaps have a look at Billabong Trailers in Petone.
http://www.billabongservices.co.nz/domestic-trailers

I bought one from them several years ago, after surveying those on offer via Mitre10 etc.
They are all hot dipped, and the build quality is good. The benefit of a marine ply deck is
that you don't have to spend large dollars in getting the deck replaced, which is what the
option when my deck of my previous metal decked trailer rusted out and failed WOF. Cheers

[HenryDorsetCase]

Thanks for the input - but - No I cant afford it and I don't want it - its not needed and poor old car would turn its self inside out towing it

if the doors pop open while towing you need to lighten the load a bit.

[Ocean1]

The Bro just had one made by these fellas:

http://www.foxeng.co.nz/

Haven't seen it but he thinks it's good value. Good to support the locals, too.

I wouldn't touch any of the Chinese kitset items with a barge pole, they're not fit for purpose.

Edit: materials for a decent 9ft x 5ft job with duratorques I made 10 years ago was well over $2k.

[jasonu]

if the doors pop open while towing you need to lighten the load a bit.

Tru dat sista!!!

[bogan]

Hot dip galv frame, decent thickness axle with sealed stubs (don't want the fucker rusting through from the inside), and just all round sturdy construction. Oh, don't both with those small wheeled fuckers either.

Size it based on your tow vehicle's capability, though it sounds like you're on top of that one.

[russd7]

for what you want just buy a second hand trailor, remember that a trailor is extremely easy to get re reged if it has lapsed and a lot of sellers are unaware so will let an un reged trailor go dirt cheap

[Ulsterkiwi]

Trayla in Levin. 7X4 with 3' cage if you need it plus jockey and spare wheel. $2495. We pick ours up on Friday. If you don't need the cage then minus 3 or 400 I think.


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[Akzle]

So - I'm thinking 7 x 4 single axle - only used for garden rubbish, camping and hauling kayaks...

Feeling I should avoid kitset ones from Save Barn....

What about Mitre 10? Seem awfully cheap... Maybe too cheap? https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/jobmate-trailer-7-x-4/p/203476

NZ built ones seem to be about $2,200

Any experience?

single axle back "better" than tandem.
long draw bar = win.
tandem carry more with less need for balancing tongue load.
dual-wheels = more load with the peculiarities of tongue load.

independent suspension wins (dura-torques, wishbones, coils) solid axles (oh! :sweatdrop) are for gaycunts™ and townies. unless you live-beam the cunt with 18" of travel.

if you buy new, try and make sure parts (wheel bearings ie) are a) a good brand and b) available.
shing-wang-dun fucktory may make stub axles now, but in five years you may find youself looking for bearings that don't exist. trojan wins.

https://s.yimg.com/iu/api/res/1.2/ZCpgb_oNoONfD_spYbp.VA--/cm90YXRlPWF1dG87dz0zNjA7YXBwaWQ9eXZpZGVv/https://s.yimg.com/ea/img/-/091221/blogimport_ucukef-15itkhm.jpg
big is good.
legal o/s limit is 3.1 wide (i stand to be corrected, i don't give a fuck what the legislature says)

so get one of those.
possums only count with the passenger side trailing wheel. hits on motorcyclists only count if you were within your lane at the time.

4. dont tell any cunt you have it and dont lend it to any cunt ever.

[BMWST?]

i dont know what the difference is but 1 mates bike trailer is like a dream,barely know it s there and backs easily.The other one seems to make its presence felt all the time,and is a bastard to back.They are similar looking three bike trailers.The only local place i know of is fox eng.They always have a couple of trailers on display,main street foxton,right on SH1
i would get one that can take a full sheet of gib or ply,but if both ends of the tray fold down even the smallest 650kg one will take a few sheets

[tigertim20]

worth taking your time and looking in trademe for a second hand jobbie I reckon.

Wait till a second hand briford or something pops up. Having had a closer look at the likes of the bunnings / mitre 10 offerings, I would stay away from them.

I picked up a decent 7x4 trailer, with wof and reg, in good nick for $400 about 8 months ago. Just kept checking trademe each week and waited

[JimO]

i bought a 8x4 tandem Briford in 1986 when i started in business, its had a couple of decks and been rewired 3 times also fitted brakes to it after it lost a wheel with 2 ton of sand on it and as we were working out in the boonies also didnt have a spare the decision was made to drag it 10 ks to the job, its probably carried a couple of thousand tons of sand, cement over the years, its worth buying quality

[pete376403]

How often do you need a trailer? It's a lot of money, plus annual wof and reg, if you only use it a few times a year. Most building and garden supply/garden waste places have free loaners.
For stuff other than that a rental from the gas station.

[AllanB]

Briford trailers are hugely popular, ChCh made with dealers across the country.

http://www.briford.co.nz/dealers.html

I've had one of their 6x4's for 10 years.

God knows how many thousands of kms it has done - hauled a shit ton of camping gear (with a cage on it full to the brim), it's carted kayacks around the South Island (most recently CHCH to Wanaka and back), hauled heavy loads of garden soil and shingle.

Darn thing is perfect - sits outside all it's life - once a year WOF, f-all to register.

And it pulls very nicely - indeed a officer or two has often been equally impressed and waved to me as he travelled in the opposite direction.


Thing is they are proven to take contractor abuse, last, retain value and best of all you won't be fatting along worried about the quality of the welds, steel or components. There are several other NZ trailer manufacturers who make equally solid trailers.


Personally I'd avoid the unknown imports.

[Laava]

How often do you need a trailer? It's a lot of money, plus annual wof and reg, if you only use it a few times a year. Most building and garden supply/garden waste places have free loaners.
For stuff other than that a rental from the gas station.

$26 a year for reg and you do not need a wof to get it. If you keep it roadworthy, no cop in his right mind is going to get anal about that, so long as you don't get caught driving like a twat! You are right tho about IF you only use it a couple of times a year or so, as they sure take up a lot of space...
Best idea is to load all your rubbish on it as you go so that when someone comes along to bludge it off you, they have to get rid of the rubbish!

[nzspokes]

Had a bit to do with Chinese trailers that bolt together. Some are rusting before they get put together. I dont believe there is any regulations that they have to be assembled buy somebody that knows what they are doing.

Just buy a Kiwi made one.

[Paul in NZ]

Thanks everyone - some solid info in there...

Yes - hiring makes sense but you waste half a day going to 3 places to see if they have one and now Shell have an online booking system (or on site kiosk) so we are thinking we will be better off buying our own again. We have a large garden and there is always something going into it or coming out of it... Plus 3 daughters that live near to us will be able to use it too...

It will also save me fitting roof racks to the car we just purchased if I want to go fishing (old Caldina had roof rails)...

Cheers

[Swoop]

Yes - hiring makes sense but you waste half a day going to 3 places to see if they have one and now Shell have an online booking system (or on site kiosk) so we are thinking we will be better off buying our own again.

The Z stations have a kiosk, as you say, but it takes a while to book the trailer for the first time since details have to be loaded into it. Hopefully faster the second time.
Then you go out to collect your trailer, which isn't there because some other person grabbed it and you also do the same with any other remaining trailers... and hoof it quickly to get the job done!

Also, there is no "short hire" 2hrs, 3hrs option now, just 6hrs and no form of refund if returned earlier.
The price of hiring has increased too, so your idea of buying is making much more sense nowadays.

[neels]

We have several of these at work, seemingly damn near indestructible considering the (ab)use they get, and survive really well sitting outside 100% of the time without rusting away.

https://www.racewaytrailers.co.nz/

[HenryDorsetCase]

I have one of those Swiss Army fold up ones. Bought when I had money and locally made. I dont think he does them any more. Cons: short tow bar and low and powder coat not galvanised. Pros: low and perfect for a couple of bikes but I only have one on it. Payload only 660kg too but its been great for us. plus it folds up out of the way.

[Akzle]

Yes - hiring makes sense but you waste half a day going to 3 places to see if they have one

http://theivrvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/walkingfingers.jpg
:weird: .

[Paul in NZ]

The Z stations have a kiosk, as you say, but it takes a while to book the trailer for the first time since details have to be loaded into it. Hopefully faster the second time.
Then you go out to collect your trailer, which isn't there because some other person grabbed it and you also do the same with any other remaining trailers... and hoof it quickly to get the job done!

Also, there is no "short hire" 2hrs, 3hrs option now, just 6hrs and no form of refund if returned earlier.
The price of hiring has increased too, so your idea of buying is making much more sense nowadays.

Yeah I took one look at the system and went yeah - nah....

[Paul in NZ]

http://theivrvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/walkingfingers.jpg
:weird: .

HAHA - assuming the flat out busy guy on the counter answers and can be bothered looking out to see if there is a trailer there is no assurance it will still be there by the time I get there...

[thehovel]

http://www.traylatrailers.co.nz/ Done and dusted

[Akzle]

HAHA - assuming the flat out busy guy on the counter answers and can be bothered looking out to see if there is a trailer there is no assurance it will still be there by the time I get there...

i fail to believe there isn't an actual fucken hire place in or near kapiti. this hiring-from-gassies lark is for poor cunts and townies.

[Gremlin]

See that's why you have a van... no messing with trailers ;) I didn't want to be that person where you use it once a year and the wheel falls off... plus maintaining it etc.

Of course, you can't get into parking buildings, drive thru's or basically anywhere it's height restricted (because the van is taller than any height restriction I've seen), but hey, that's what motorcycles are for :ride:

[Paul in NZ]

i fail to believe there isn't an actual fucken hire place in or near kapiti. this hiring-from-gassies lark is for poor cunts and townies.

There is - gas stations are cheaper and closer plus they are open longer...

[cods4]

You also cant go wrong with a Kea, Had one of these http://www.keatrailers.co.nz/domestic/k74s for 10 years and its still like new. Lives outside but doesn't get too much use I guess.

[Ulsterkiwi]

Well, while you are all debating I got one. First day, three loads. The guys at the VTNZ where I got it registered said a local had got 6 of the Chinese efforts, they had to reject 5 of them, says it all really. This is a Trayla. I might even rent this sucker out!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/1846fadd838318ee34dad90455e63c81.jpg


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[Tazz]

Well, while you are all debating I got one. First day, three loads. The guys at the VTNZ where I got it registered said a local had got 6 of the Chinese efforts, they had to reject 5 of them, says it all really. This is a Trayla. I might even rent this sucker out!![IMG]https://upads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/1846fadd838318ee34dad90455e63c81.jpg[IMG]


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Shiney! How much mate?

[Ulsterkiwi]

Shiney! How much mate?

$2495 plus $150 odd to the gubbermint for a plate, 12 month rego sticker and 3 year WOF...as Akzle says...'legislation"

[BMWST?]

There is - gas stations are cheaper and closer plus they are open longer...

not always, Handy lets you hire trailers and vans and trucks for that matter by the hour,none of this 4 hour minimum larkWhatever they called cnr Hutt Road and Kaiwharawhara road.They do have more limited hours than gas stations

[Akzle]

$2495 plus $150 odd to the gubbermint for a plate, 12 month rego sticker and 3 year WOF...as Akzle says...'legislation"

... i also say "voluntary (enslavement)" and "optional"

so... y'know, upto you.

[madbikeboy]

See that's why you have a van... no messing with trailers ;) I didn't want to be that person where you use it once a year and the wheel falls off... plus maintaining it etc.

Of course, you can't get into parking buildings, drive thru's or basically anywhere it's height restricted (because the van is taller than any height restriction I've seen), but hey, that's what motorcycles are for :ride:

Gremlin! What flavour of van do you have? I'm going to buy another Sprinter in Aus in two months when I get back there.

[Gremlin]

Gremlin! What flavour of van do you have? I'm going to buy another Sprinter in Aus in two months when I get back there.
Hiace Grand Cabin with AWD. Certified 10 seater, taken out most of them to leave the front 2 plus a 2 seater. The long wheel base allows a motorcycle behind the seats, rather than the shorter one having to take out all the rear seats. If vans were free I'd look for the LWB Sprinter in 4WD, but anything much bigger than the Hiace is really big, often has a cargo barrier etc. AWD is handy for mtb'ing trips down gravel roads, crossing the odd stream etc. When I need to transport people instead, seats go back in as required (just bolt to the walls and floor). The seat mounts are also great for attaching tie down points.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/_Gremlin/th_20150404_125407_zpstq1uzv8x.jpg (http://s210.photobucket.com/user/_Gremlin/media/20150404_125407_zpstq1uzv8x.jpg.html)

[Grumph]

My Hiace had a split seat as the first row back. I took out the twin and moved the single across to behind the drivers seat, locking it in position (it rotated)
Gave a useful 3rd seat and enough room for a bike up the left.