Practical Motorcycle Restricted License test (non CBTA)

[apsolar]

Hello

I have struggled to find information on the NZTA practical motorcycle restricted test format. I understand that it can take upto an hour just the CBTA assessment but apart from that there isn't much.
I would appreciate if someone who has sat the practical restricted license test share their experience.

I have tried CBTA and failed my test. I understand what I need to work on and will be doing that over the next few weeks. Its already been 6 months on my learners so I see no point in spending the extra $90 ($180 vs $88.60) to get assessed again.

All suggestions welcome.

Regards

[cods4]

Same sort of stuff that you would do on the CBTA. They take you through some urban roads, check your road positioning, using indicators, mirrors, balance when moving slowly, giving way etc. Then they take you in some open roads and are probably checking speed (too fast or too slow), positioning etc.
My test in July last year was cut short due to pretty heavy rain so I'm not sure if there was much I missed out on. Did it in Pukekohe.

I did the bronze ride forever course and it sounds like the CBTA is pretty much the same except they are a bit more strict on positioning, checking mirrors/blindspots etc. I guess they can be because they are following right behind you on a bike rather than in a car a bit further back.

[Ifsn8u]

I did my restricted test back in 2014. I'm sure not much has changed since then. My test lasted about 35mins.

They follow you in a car giving you instructions on where to go via earpiece they give you. As above they take you through Urban areas giveway signs, stop signs, checking your following road rules and speed. I was taken down a few no exit streets, using turning signals appropriatley etc. also did a u -turn. Then open road stuff, can you ride at 80-100kmph safely etc. Make sure you make it obvious your are checking your mirrors and turn your head when checking before lane change or turning into a street.

Basically if you can ride a bike under control and follow all road rules you will be fine. I was shocked at how easy it was to be honest.

[Old Steve]

Couple of tips:

Make big head movements when looking at mirrors and checking over your shoulder when changing lanes - the tester on the bike behind can't see you move your eyes so make sure he sees when you do check your mirrors, checking for other traffic etc.

When they ask you to detail the hazards down a stretch of road, don't forget that there was one hazard in particular - the tester on a bike following you.

[Akzle]

Maybe to ensure a head movement is made you could adjust the mirrors slightly so you can not see in them without making a head movement.

Your such a winner.
Can you please teach me to crash ride a motorcycle as good as you?

Back in my day you were failed for shit like that. If you had to adjust the mirrors you obviously weren't using them correctly to get to the test. Insta-fail, thanks for coming, pay another fee and try again.

[neil.]

I did mine in Hamilton about a month ago. pretty pointless as a test, really.

the whole thing was mostly in 50km/hr zones, mostly residential streets, with a few u-turns. Basically if you can follow the road rules, and maintain a steady speed, then I don't see how you could fail.

I think i went through 2 roundabouts (straight through). spend less than 5 mins in an 80km area to get back to testing station.

no way was it a test of anyones ability to ride etc,

[FJRider]

Hello

I have struggled to find information on the NZTA practical motorcycle restricted test format. I understand that it can take upto an hour just the CBTA assessment but apart from that there isn't much.
I would appreciate if someone who has sat the practical restricted license test share their experience.

I have tried CBTA and failed my test. I understand what I need to work on and will be doing that over the next few weeks. Its already been 6 months on my learners so I see no point in spending the extra $90 ($180 vs $88.60) to get assessed again.

All suggestions welcome.

Regards

I suggest you pull your head out your ass, and some moths out of your wallet ... and get some training.

Test format.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/motorcycle-road-code/practical-tests/restricted-practical-riding-test/

The CBTA method is usually the easiest method for a new rider to get a license. That you failed your assessment ... is not a good look. Increase your health/life insurance. You might need it soon if you continue to (try to) ride a motorcycle legally.

Learner licence application $48.20
Learner licence theory test $45.70
Restricted licence application $48.20
Restricted licence practical test $86.60²
Full licence application $49.60
Full licence practical test $59.90³
Total $338.20


Restricted License application fee ... plus the Practical test cost is $134.00

Continue to go to the test centers (and probably fail) ... and pay the required fees (probably again and again and ...). Obviously you do not need any more rider training ... as you already know it all.

Good luck with that ...

[Zedder]

I suggest you pull your head out your ass, and some moths out of your wallet.


This isn't about zoology FJRider.

[FJRider]

Maybe to ensure a head movement is made you could adjust the mirrors slightly so you can not see in them without making a head movement.

The head movements are to look in places the mirrors are not adjusted for. Like side streets, pedestrian crossing entrances, driveway entrances/exits ... and the thousand or so other places you need to be seen to be looking for possible problems. Like vehicles, pedestrians ... and even stray dogs (and other animals) ...

[FJRider]

This isn't about zoology FJRider.

He must have been the first to FAIL a CBTA assessment ... I wasn't even aware you could ... :blink:

[FJRider]

If you get too carried away doing that as you ride along you run the risk of rear ending the vehicle in front.

Your HEAD must be seen to be moving (FOR THE TEST).... where you actually choose to look is your business. Remember ... if you are involved in an accident during the test ... either partly or wholly your fault ... it is an instant FAIL.

[Akzle]

If you get too carried away doing that as you ride along you run the risk of rear ending the vehicle in front.

only you .

[FJRider]

Head movement was never something tested for back in the 70s when I did my test but maybe it was observed when I got to give way or stop signs.

The license test system was a lot simpler then. If you didn't fall off during your test ... then you passed ... :mellow:

[FJRider]

I am sure they checked speed and road rule compliance as well.

When I went for my motorcycle license ... I just rode around a few center plots of Tay street Invercargill, which included a few traffic lights. Most of the time the (traffic) cop couldn't even see me. Prior to the "test" ... he only checked that the bike was legal. 15 minutes total time taken ... and that included doing the paperwork. NO L plate needed. NO provisional license. A FULL motorcycle license within less than a month of getting my learners license.

[flashg]

I am sure they checked speed and road rule compliance as well.
Not when I got my motorcycle license in 1973, Was told to do tight figure 8's in a car park. Wasn't even wearing a helmet and as FJ Rider said, I didn't fall off, so I passed.

[flashg]

I think in my day you were able to get a provisional license without a practical test which you could not do in a car and once you had passed your practical test you were not allowed to ride a bike over 250cc for a period of months maybe a year. No L plate was needed then either. I dont remember my practical test but did pass first time.
No restrictions on bike CC when I sat mine, as far as I remember. Didn't have the money for the bigger bikes, we rode what we could afford.

[rastuscat]

15 years and 1 week old I had a full car licence.

1 week later, 5 oral questions, get 3 right and I had a provisional bike licence.

6 weeks later, Ride around the block and I had a full Class A.

Remember when a car licence was a Class B? A truck was Class F, and a trailer was Class L.

When the "lifetime " licences came along, A became 6, B became 1, F became 2 and 4, and L became 3 and 5.

Ya gotta love the system.

[apsolar]

I suggest you pull your head out your ass, and some moths out of your wallet ... and get some training.

Test format.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/motorcycle-road-code/practical-tests/restricted-practical-riding-test/

The CBTA method is usually the easiest method for a new rider to get a license. That you failed your assessment ... is not a good look. Increase your health/life insurance. You might need it soon if you continue to (try to) ride a motorcycle legally.

Learner licence application $48.20
Learner licence theory test $45.70
Restricted licence application $48.20
Restricted licence practical test $86.60²
Full licence application $49.60
Full licence practical test $59.90³
Total $338.20


Restricted License application fee ... plus the Practical test cost is $134.00

Continue to go to the test centers (and probably fail) ... and pay the required fees (probably again and again and ...). Obviously you do not need any more rider training ... as you already know it all.

Good luck with that ...

FJRider, Why did you even bother. Obviously you had a bad day or you have had enough of this life. I hope you find a better reason to live.

See where I am going with this by jumping to conclusions about you and your life, just like you did with mine.

Grow up and learn to respect if you wish to receive any back.

[Akzle]

what goes on here?? a competition to see who's oldest??




When the "lifetime " licences came along, A became 6, B became 1, F became 2 and 4, and L became 3 and 5.

Ya gotta love the system.

ahhh.... then all those idiots that swapped that legal contract with their jew overlords for a "photo id"... to be renewed every 10 yearcs or some shit. :niceone:

i still have a paper license somewhere... not that i ever use it.

[FJRider]

See where I am going with this by jumping to conclusions about you and your life, just like you did with mine.

Grow up and learn to respect if you wish to receive any back.

Remember this post of yours ... ?? I wasn't "jumping to conclusions" after all ... Still riding a slow bike I see.



Kawasaki Ninja's look great and I am sure they are reliable. Would these bikes have enough power at lower rpm. Until I feel confident enough to be in control such powerful bikes, I feel it would be safer to ride something slow.

You don't even have the confidence to stick with your original post in this thread ... so you felt the need to edit it

[jafagsx250]

Remember this post of yours ... ?? I wasn't "jumping to conclusions" after all ... Still riding a slow bike I see.




You don't even have the confidence to stick with your original post in this thread ... so you felt the need to edit it

Looking at the prices you quoted I feel like I got taken for a ride when I paid 150 bucks for my c b t a. Bloody pass masters. My tester was all goods and after reading the book he let me pass when I pulled into a driveway to turn around rather than do an u turn in a 100 zone.

[FJRider]

Looking at the prices you quoted I feel like I got taken for a ride when I paid 150 bucks for my c b t a. Bloody pass masters. My tester was all goods and after reading the book he let me pass when I pulled into a driveway to turn around rather than do an u turn in a 100 zone.

I do the driveway thing when I'm on my FJ1200. It's a big long bitch to turn around on narrow/busy roads. Nothing illegal about it either ...

CBTA are the easiest way to get licensed ... but not the cheapest.

[jafagsx250]

I do the driveway thing when I'm on my FJ1200. It's a big long bitch to turn around on narrow/busy roads. Nothing illegal about it either ...

CBTA are the easiest way to get licensed ... but not the cheapest.

Yup. Was pretty stoked when he read out that it was ok.

Is it worth it to do the c b t a though? Apart from being tested by a biker and getting your full license earlier I don't remember there being a big difference between the two. Depending on the price of the full I may as well just go c b t a. It probably won't be much more.

[FJRider]

Yup. Was pretty stoked when he read out that it was ok.

Is it worth it to do the c b t a though? Apart from being tested by a biker and getting your full license earlier I don't remember there being a big difference between the two. Depending on the price of the full I may as well just go c b t a. It probably won't be much more.

As long as you listen to the advise they give you ... and change your riding to suit ... there wont/shouldn't be an issue.

Spend the time acting like they owe you a license and you know all you need to know already ... it probably wont end well.

The keyword is attitude ... your attitude when you ride will dictate a lot about how others treat you.

[jafagsx250]

As long as you listen to the advise they give you ... and change your riding to suit ... there wont/shouldn't be an issue.

Spend the time acting like they owe you a license and you know all you need to know already ... it probably wont end well.

The keyword is attitude ... your attitude when you ride will dictate a lot about how others treat you.
From what I remember he mainly talked about consistency and always doing head checks which I have endeavored to follow. I am still working out the silly out of the system.

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[FJRider]

From what I remember he mainly talked about consistency and always doing head checks which I have endeavored to follow. I am still working out the silly out of the system.

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Give the testers exactly what they require in the testing process ... until you are fully licensed. THEN ... ride however you like ... because you have your rights ... and fuck everybody else. (it's the Kiwi way ... apparently)

[Ulsterkiwi]

Give the testers exactly what they require in the testing process ... until you are fully licensed. THEN ... ride however you like ... because you have your rights ... and fuck everybody else. (it's the Kiwi way ... apparently)

funny that, its pretty much how people seem to get a car licence, then the little dears on here moan about "fucking cagers" but when its "bikers" then the "fuck everybody else" rule applies.

[Taxythingy]

If you didn't pass first time round, at least with a CBTA they will have given you clear info on what you need to improve.

I'd recommend you ride around and practise that stuff for a bit. Then go do the Ride Forever Bronze course. At $50 it's a steal, since they are coaching you on (a) not dying, and (b) passing the restricted test.
Then sit the CBTA again when you have that lot well practiced. If you are trying to rush through the system to legally ride a 'Busa/R6/turbine-powered GN*, then odds are better that you will end up part of an ACC report.

Rinse and repeat later with the Silver course/full CBTA.

It will probably make you a better rider and will definitely make it easier to pass the tests. I know I'd rather have someone tell me what and how I need to improve, rather than be given a check-sheet by Mr. 4wheels telling me what I failed on.



*I'd like to see that, just for shits and giggles.