ceiling paint and general house paint issues

[sheddy]

Hey guys
Has anyone got any good paints to recommend for painting ceilings or roofing. I need to paint the living area in my new to me place. I heard Delux is not on its game anymore, rezene so so and blitish paints so so as well. the best paint i could identify was Heymes and to make life difficult its an Ozzie brand unavailable here.
Tips anyone, I don't want to have to put more than two coats on before it looks okay..
Thanks

[Drew]

So, we know you want to paint some stuff. What's on there at the moment, and what look are you going for?

Ceilings are a cunt to make look good in any room with decent natural light coming in, as are walls adjacent to those windows. Unless someone paid moonbeams for the plastering.

More info required.

[sheddy]

God knows whats on the ceiling at the moment but when you try to clean it with sugar soap it just goes to a smudged type effect, you can see where you have been as it looks worse than before the cleaning. That means it must be acrylic flat white of some kind. Its a coffered panel ceiling of about 1m x1m panels and just for kicks its 90m square and most of it is 4m high.....
the solution,,,, I do have a step ladder that reaches that height when I am on it and I know my arms will fall off. I want a silk or low sheen but wipeable finish in white

[ellipsis]

...it's all shit and advertising...choose yer colour and slap it on...

[Akzle]

skimcoat the cunt. and by that i mean pay some cunt to skimcoat the cunt.

undercoat on a short nap roller.
two matte top coats.

[Voltaire]

skimcoat the cunt. and by that i mean pay some cunt to skimcoat the cunt.

undercoat on a short nap roller.
two matte top coats.

I paid 'Mike" cash to do my 50's lounge a grand to skim the walls, would have taken me weeks and weeks and still looked shit.
All I had to do was paint it. Best K I have ever spent....other than single malt.... craft beers..... third best K I have spent.

Axley is right as usual ( you can quote me on that :laugh:)

Why would you need wipeable ....is it a bedroom?

[husaberg]

God knows whats on the ceiling at the moment but when you try to clean it with sugar soap it just goes to a smudged type effect, you can see where you have been as it looks worse than before the cleaning. That means it must be acrylic flat white of some kind. Its a coffered panel ceiling of about 1m x1m panels and just for kicks its 90m square and most of it is 4m high.....
the solution,,,, I do have a step ladder that reaches that height when I am on it and I know my arms will fall off. I want a silk or low sheen but wipeable finish in white

Google rag rolling with a plastic bag, and plastic bag with roller and do it from the ground with a roller and pole extension.
i have done it on walls before and it looks a million bucks.
I have done by apllying a darker color over a lighter one before .
You simply apply one top coat over a lighter one and use heaps of scrunched up plastic bags to dab off the still wet paint.
It covers a multitude of sins.
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You could also do a sponge effect from the ground on a stick/pole
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You could shear one of axels boyfriends and use the wool to wrap arround a roller do this one coat finish as well.
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[HenryDorsetCase]

God knows whats on the ceiling at the moment but when you try to clean it with sugar soap it just goes to a smudged type effect, you can see where you have been as it looks worse than before the cleaning. That means it must be acrylic flat white of some kind. Its a coffered panel ceiling of about 1m x1m panels and just for kicks its 90m square and most of it is 4m high.....
the solution,,,, I do have a step ladder that reaches that height when I am on it and I know my arms will fall off. I want a silk or low sheen but wipeable finish in white

do yourself a favour, clear the room out, tape plastic on the floor, and hire or buy some sort of scissor lift or scaffold.

Painting is the last step. Prep is the key as others have said. You have that covered in that you know what to do, you just dont want to put the fucking hours and hours of backbreaking and arm wrenching labour into it. I dont blame you.

But in terms of a recommendation for paint itself: we have been successfully using Resene paints of all types since we first started DIY on our first house in 1988. Go have a chat to them - sometimes they will even send a rep out to look at your house to recommend a solution.

[Akzle]

just read you shit cos that cunt quoted it.

it could work out more economical to re-line the fucken thing.
you'll still need to have it stopped. and painted thrice.
and at 4m it's over sheet size. so... fucken meh.

[AllanB]

Always had success with Resene house paints.

I've used Dulux ceiling paint with success as well.

Both are solid brands. I am unsure why anyone would be telling you otherwise.

[Akzle]

Always had success with Resene house paints.

I've used Dulux ceiling paint with success as well.

Both are solid brands. I am unsure why anyone would be telling you otherwise.

the only difference between "ceiling paint" and white paint is the word "ceiling" and a 30% markup for the priviledge.

[HenryDorsetCase]

just read you shit cos that cunt quoted it.

it could work out more economical to re-line the fucken thing.
you'll still need to have it stopped. and painted thrice.
and at 4m it's over sheet size. so... fucken meh.
I read it as a 90 sq m room with coffered ceilings with a 4 m stud. Very expensive to reline

[BMWST?]

I read it as a 90 sq m room with coffered ceilings with a 4 m stud. Very expensive to reline

i think some people have problems with measurements.90 sq metres? thats more than some houses! A big living room would be 25 sq m ie 5x5 twice that is huge and still only 50 sq m.

[awayatc]

i think some people have problems with measurements.90 sq metres? thats more than some houses! A big living room would be 25 sq m ie 5x5 twice that is huge and still only 50 sq m.

4m height might be a clue.. ....

[BMWST?]

4m height might be a clue.. ....
why? 90 cubic metres?

[awayatc]

why? 90 cubic metres?

No...

Not your average living room......

[Akzle]

I read it as a 90 sq m room with coffered ceilings with a 4 m stud. Very expensive to reline

depending what condition the substrate is in...
probly more like 90sq. of walls eh...

[pritch]

No...

Not your average living room......

A century or so has passed since 4 meters was close to average ceiling height.

Not recognising the term "coffered ceiling" I looked it up on Google images and whadya know, I'm sitting under one.

[Akzle]

i think some people have problems with measurements.90 sq metres? thats more than some houses! A big living room would be 25 sq m ie 5x5 twice that is huge and still only 50 sq m.

90sq of walls is about 5x5 at 4m height..

[HenryDorsetCase]

He's clearly bought a mansion and is doing up the ballroom. Hope it has a sprung floor - that'd be cool. The good news is that the coffered ceiling will be good in that there is no large, flat surface which is edge lit to show up bumps and lumps. the bad news is OP is in for a fuckton of work. an imperial fuckton too by the sounds of it.

scissor lift and lying down on your back to work on it might be the go. You will need a respirator anyway because although it sounds like there is some shit-tastic paint on top what is underneath almost certainly has lead in it.

Rather OP than me.

[Swoop]

Nothing wrong with Resens paint, or Dulux for that matter either.
A bit pricey so sale prices or a mate with a trade account is handy...

Prep is the key to good painting. Prep sucks.

[husaberg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnpmIWcDdAY
http://www.resene.co.nz/paintdec/airless_spray_info.htm
https://www.hirepool.co.nz/airless-spray-painting-unit

[ellipsis]

...I would go with Resene, just for the fact that they are a sponsor of the National Superbike champs...

[R650R]

Just had the Suffittes done here (the underside of the roof overhang) outside in White with Resene Lumberside.
Painter said its a twenty year old design that heaps of guys use and recommend when you dont know what the old paint is. He did it with 10% black tint known has 'black white' so it looks like a nice clean white but not that gharishly overly bright white plasticy look.
It came out awesome and the guy says that paint sticks to anything.
Might post pic tommorow....

[Akzle]

Just had the Suffittes done here (the underside of the roof overhang) outside in White with Resene Lumberside.
Painter said its a twenty year old design that heaps of guys use and recommend when you dont know what the old paint is. He did it with 10% black tint known has 'black white' so it looks like a nice clean white but not that gharishly overly bright white plasticy look.
It came out awesome and the guy says that paint sticks to anything.
Might post pic tommorow....

soffit *

[jasonu]

...I would go with Resene, just for the fact that they are a sponsor of the National Superbike champs...

That's as good a reason as any!!!

[skippa1]

Prep then airless spray.....paints paint unless you budget shit then its just white water. Resenes, Dulux etc all ok. Find where the commercial painters buy, then go there. I did and got good quality paint at half the price you get it at a mega store

[old slider]

Prep then airless spray.....paints paint unless you budget shit then its just white water. Resenes, Dulux etc all ok. Find where the commercial painters buy, then go there. I did and got good quality paint at half the price you get it at a mega store


I agree, Most of the top commercial painters I see go to the Dulux and Resenes outfits.

[BMWST?]

He's clearly bought a mansion and is doing up the ballroom. Hope it has a sprung floor - that'd be cool. The good news is that the coffered ceiling will be good in that there is no large, flat surface which is edge lit to show up bumps and lumps. the bad news is OP is in for a fuckton of work. an imperial fuckton too by the sounds of it.

scissor lift and lying down on your back to work on it might be the go. You will need a respirator anyway because although it sounds like there is some shit-tastic paint on top what is underneath almost certainly has lead in it.

Rather OP than me.
if it is a ballroom a fuckton of work seems to be the correct measure.Ifitsa"villa"there will be lead based paint somewhere!

[neels]

If its smearing its filthy, either wash it with sugar soap before painting or prime with a good oil based sealer. Then paint with flat ceiling paint, either in black white or the same colour as the walls, was the only thing that made our 50sqm of living room ceiling look presentable. Resene still do good stuff.