Android smart TV

[F5 Dave]

Survived this weeks reshuffle, or at least so far. Thinking of upgrading the 10yr old bedroom teev as a reward.

Have a kodi attached to it (media player and web TV). But we just can'tbe bothered booting up a PC, most of links foreign, Apple streaming works maybe 40% of the time. Just a hassle.

Want a simple interface, watch tvnz on demand and browse to play things like kisscartoon etc. We're using tablets, but cmon, surely this has got accessible on smart TVs Or are you hemmed into particular apps.

Suggestions for that tired and lazy?

[Akzle]

Suggestions for that tired and lazy?

amphetamines .

[merv]

The smart TV we have (LG) connects directly to wifi and you can cast to it from phone, PC or whatever. Also has Freeview Plus so anything like TVNZ on demand you can watch using Miracast from the laptop or watch directly from Freeview Plus. It also has web browser capability of its own so I bought a wireless mouse and keyboard to drive it directly - that part of it works a bit slower than the laptop and very slow if you use the remote control as the keyboard but it is handy when you can't be bothered starting another device like the laptop.

So they just about do anything these days.

[F5 Dave]

Bah. Can't be bothered casting from another device. Just seems so pointless. I have a remote mini keyboard.

[pete376403]

CIA will be watching and hearing everything you do (apparently). Bedroom set you say...;)

[Gremlin]

The Smart TVs are getting better and better, with more processing power and more functionality. I'd still cable the TV into the network as often their wireless has limited reception.

They also have things like Plex apps (not sure about Kodi) and yes you can Miracast (Win10) or mirror from smartphones. Overall, apps are still limited and regular browsing is no match for a computer or even tablet.

[Autech]

I have a Sony Android thingy. Its awesome has a netflix button n all the apps I love. I prefer it to my old Samsung Smart TV.

You should buy one


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[haydes55]

I picked up a 65" Sony Bravia LED smart TV from Noel Leamings for $1500.

Turn it on, wait 30 seconds, then press 2 buttons and I'm streaming Pandora, better than the radio.

I don't have an aerial so only ever watch Netflix and YouTube. A wireless keyboard saves time. I find Sky tv so boring compared to Netflix.

My only complaint is the processor/Ram is too slow, my phone loads faster (galaxy S5), and the screen is so big my playstation 2 games are too pixelated.

It's also very hard to look at small tv screens now.

[jellywrestler]

Suggestions for that tired and lazy?

i had a mate who loved gardens but was notoriously lazy, his solution was to by a house near an accident black spot.

[R650R]

The Smart TVs are getting better and better, with more processing power and more functionality. I'd still cable the TV into the network as often their wireless has limited reception.

They also have things like Plex apps (not sure about Kodi) and yes you can Miracast (Win10) or mirror from smartphones. Overall, apps are still limited and regular browsing is no match for a computer or even tablet.

Yep and I find the youtube app on tv the sound often lags which is highly annoying.
Also the freeview apps and on demand you have to log in which is a pain when occasionally its logged itself out and you try to remember bloddy passwords etc.....

So easy to just stream off PC via HDMI, setup in devoces/screen on pc.

Got one of latest Panasonics last year and think a lot of the interfaces and also phone control apps for it are a little slower and clumsier than expected.

[pritch]

I don't even understand most of what you guys are on about. My old Bravia and an Apple TV do it for me. There is a DVD recorder that will operate as a Freeview set but I'd need a new aerial. That'd provide a Plan B in case I gave SKY the arse.

Hopefully my current gear isn't reporting back to the GCSB. Then again, according to Kellyann Conjob my microwave is taking photos...

[Banditbandit]

CIA will be watching and hearing everything you do (apparently). Bedroom set you say...;)

Didn't any of you see this????

Stay away from SmartTVs ... you are bringing in watching devices straight to you home ... TPTB can monitor you through these devices.

[release_the_bees]

My solution was to install a Chromecast and an Intel Compute Stick in the HDMI ports behind the TV. Chromecast is great for quickly streaming content from the phone or tablet, or mirroring the screens, and the Compute Stick works great when a more traditional PC like experience is required.

The Compute Stick in particular is also really handy when traveling as it can convert a motel TV into a full on workstation without having to cart a laptop around.

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[Autech]

Didn't any of you see this????

Stay away from SmartTVs ... you are bringing in watching devices straight to you home ... TPTB can monitor you through these devices.

Sweet! Lets hope they email me with tips on how to improve my World of Tanks gameplay!

[pzkpfw]

Didn't any of you see this????

Stay away from SmartTVs ... you are bringing in watching devices straight to you home ... TPTB can monitor you through these devices.

Given the font size, are you serious? (Can't tell if that's the sarcasm font. Just in case ...).

Firstly, not all smart T.V.s have cameras, or microphones. (And even then, nothing's new. Samsung got bollocked a year or two back when a voice-command model of T.V. was found to be sending "heard stuff" back to the voice recognition company for training their software).

Secondly, the software the spooks have needs to infect the T.V. via USB. That is, the "spy" had to get to first get physical access to your T.V.

[Akzle]

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Secondly, the software the spooks have needs to infect the T.V. via USB. That is, the "spy" had to get to first get physical access to your T.V.

r u fukn srs??
no, they don't. the firmware will have back doors built in. (for ota upgrades, for your convinience) which will also allow hardware streams to go straight out. a lá intel, nvidia chips and uefi. not to mention the "apps" you give permissions to without thinking about it.

a speaker is a microphone when wired so.

the snooping is entirely possible, even probable. but is it profitable?
que bono cunt, que bono.

[Swoop]

CIA will be watching and hearing everything you do (apparently). Bedroom set you say...;)
Hopefully they appreciate comedy shows...

[F5 Dave]

Meh, I'll wipe a bit of semen on the camera lens.

[Banditbandit]

Given the font size, are you serious? (Can't tell if that's the sarcasm font. Just in case ...).

Firstly, not all smart T.V.s have cameras, or microphones. (And even then, nothing's new. Samsung got bollocked a year or two back when a voice-command model of T.V. was found to be sending "heard stuff" back to the voice recognition company for training their software).

Secondly, the software the spooks have needs to infect the T.V. via USB. That is, the "spy" had to get to first get physical access to your T.V.


As I understand it (and I'm not a nerd - more of a Luddite) as soon as you plug in your computer it can al be hacked ...

[Gremlin]

As I understand it (and I'm not a nerd - more of a Luddite) as soon as you plug in your computer it can al be hacked ...
You probably don't want to read this but...

Unless you have uPnP enabled that allows a device to establish a connection out (and more importantly and riskily, in), or allow it to receive DHCP or manually configure an Internet connection with associated DNS/Gateway, no, it can't just magically do whatever it likes... however, it does depend on the person using the technology and how much they understand.

It's very easy to lock down the device, but naturally, the more secure you make it, the less functional it is.

[pzkpfw]

As I understand it (and I'm not a nerd - more of a Luddite) as soon as you plug in your computer it can al be hacked ...

Even if this is assumed (Gremlin puts that in some perspective), my comment was a reply to comments that seemed based on the recently leaked (Wikileaks) information that included use of T.V.'s for spying.

... and one of the aspects of that leaked information, was the need for physical access to the T.V. for "infection".

[pete376403]

Most of the Internet of Things devices appear to ship with minimal-to-none security, to make them super easy to setup (plug and play, hey?) Default userids and passwords (admin/admin)if at all. Buried somewhere in the setup instructions it says to change the password to something more secure but who reads instructions?

[pzkpfw]

Most of the Internet of Things devices appear to ship with minimal-to-none security, to make them super easy to setup (plug and play, hey?) Default userids and passwords (admin/admin)if at all. Buried somewhere in the setup instructions it says to change the password to something more secure but who reads instructions?

Yeah, those sort of things are the worst. They're designed to splurg out information, and they don't secure it well. Internet connected baby-monitors and security cameras are often found to be easy to get a feed from.

It's easy enough to write software to trawl known ports on lists of ip address, looking for known devices with known flaws. There's even an open website (I forget the name of right now) that lists them.

The script kiddies have fun making random people's printers spit out pages that say "secure your device" (with more words).


Randomish links:
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2893724/iots-dark-side-hundreds-of-unsecured-devices-open-to-attack.html
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/find-out-if-one-of-your-devices-helped-break-the-internet

[Gremlin]

How about open wireless in a lawyers house? Told my client to talk to their neighbour...

One client bought a novelty security camera (without telling me), oh, so easy and I can connect to it when I'm out and about.... yeeeeaaaah, so if you can connect from anywhere, what about others?

Security is like backups... many only realise the value when it's too late :devil2:

[F5 Dave]

Well you've convinced me.

I'm going to buy a smart TV and dance in front of it naked. That should put off any further surveillance.

[Akzle]

... and one of the aspects of that leaked information, was the need for physical access to the T.V. for "infection".

you get your idiot box straight off the production line do ya? and scrutineer the microcode?

[Akzle]

who reads instructions?

most people who don't run windows.

[flashg]

Well you've convinced me.

I'm going to buy a smart TV and dance in front of it naked. That should put off any further surveillance.
Consider LG smart tv. A mate has one and they have the RED BULL TV app, only one that does apparently, watch hard enduro, erzberg, romainiac's etc. It's what I want one day.

[R650R]

"New Intel based PC's PERMANENTLY hackable
So you think no one can access your data because your computer is turned off. Heck it's more than turned off, you even took the main hard drive out, and only the backup disk is inside. There is no operating system installed at all. So you KNOW you are safe.

Frank from across the street is an alternative operating systems hobbyist, and he has tons of computers. He has Free BSD on a couple, his own compilation of Linux on another, a Mac for the wife, and even has Solaris on yet another. Frank knows systems security, so he cannot be hacked . . . . . . . or so he thinks.

The government does not like Frank much, because they LOVE to look at everything. Privacy is a crime don't you know, and it looks like Frank's luck with privacy is about to run out.

The new Intel Core vPro processors contain a new remote access feature which allows 100 percent remote acess to a PC 100 percent of the time, even if the computer is TURNED OFF. Core vPro processors contain a second physical processor embedded within the main processor which has it's own operating system embedded on the chip itself. As long as the power supply is available and and in working condition, it can be woken up by the Core vPro processor, which runs on the system's phantom power and is able to quietly turn individual hardware components on and access anything on them.

This is being touted as something that makes IT administration easy. It is being advertised as something that will allow IT professionals the ability to remotely troubleshoot a PC no matter what is wrong with it. It allows IT professionals to view the contents of hard drives, check the memory, or hunt for problems on a machine without actually being in front of it. And to that, I call B.S, - outside of snooping it's only real world applications would involve accessing a recovery partiton and restoring the computer to out of box state, installing software outside the knowledge of the main operating system, and secretly placing or deleting files.

But the intelligence agencies LOVE THIS. Because Frank is going on vacation soon and they know it. They have listened to all of his calls. They KNOW frank is a terrorist, because they have never been able to access anything Frank has done with a PC, and who would hide their use, other than a criminal? Frank keeps his computers up to date, and JUST BOUGHT THREE of them which have Core vPro processors in them, and when Frank is gone, they are going to get their chance to access ALL of his files because the main backup hard disk went into the newest machine.



Real world intelligence agency use for Core vPro processors will involve the following:
Accessing any PC ANYWHERE, no matter what operating system is installed, even if it is physically disconnected from the internet. You see, Core vPro processors work in conjunction with Intel's new Anti Theft 3.0, which put 3g connectivity into every Intel CPU after the Sandy Bridge version of the I3/5/7 processors. Users do not get to know about that 3g connection, but it IS there.

Frank was not stupid so he unplugged his router. Unfortunately for Frank, that won't work, because anti theft 3.0 always has that 3g connection on also, even if the computer is turned off.

Sorry frank, you were good with operating systems, but did not know EVERYTHING about hardware. And now the real reason for your finicky security habits will be known to the NSA - you found a way to route photons to any place in the world without any sort of cable. You revolutionized communications. You were going public when you returned from your vacation, but thanks to your new Core vPro processors, a major communications firm is going to go public with your invention BEFORE you get home, and your research will be deleted and replaced with "criminal activity" so you will be arrested when you get back and unable to speak about the theft of your invention. Fascism is GREAT.



CoreVpro is a PERFECT hack
If a system has the ram chips pulled, a Core vPro processor will read the hard disk anyway because it has all the ram it needs embedded in the vPro core.

If you encrypted your hard drive, a Core vPro processor will read it anyway, because it snagged your encryption key

If your system has been taken apart, and has no video card, ram, floppy, or hard drive, your Core vPro processor nailed you, because you left a flash drive plugged in. Or a CD in the CD drive. And what about that web cam?

The bottom line? The Core vPro processor is the end of any pretend privacy. If you think encryption, Norton, or anything else is going to ensure your privacy, including never hooking up to the web AT ALL, think again. There is now more than just a ghost in the machine.
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[F5 Dave]

I can get red bull on the Kodiak box.

Looks like Sony might be the go.

[flashg]

I can get red bull on the Kodiak box.

Looks like Sony might be the go.
I get RED BULL on the tablet and plug into tv through HDMI cable. Some of the posters were talking about a Chromecast thing, but I don't understand how it works. No cables sounds the go though.

[pritch]

It's very easy to lock down the device, but naturally, the more secure you make it, the less functional it is.

Security ever was a trade off against convenience.

Was listening to an interview with Edward Snowden yesterday and he was saying that if someone on the Govt target list buys a new computer, router, or now presumably a smart TV, the NSA/CIA/FBI/? get to it first. Only after they have installed their toys does it get deivered to the buyer. They leave no sign that the packing has been interfered with.

That would suggest that walking into the local computer shop and buying off the shelf would be a safer bet than ordering on line. If you were likely to be of interest to TPTB.

[Akzle]

Security ever was a trade off against convenience.

Was listening to an interview with Edward Snowden yesterday and he was saying that if someone on the Govt target list buys a new computer, router, or now presumably a smart TV, the NSA/CIA/FBI/? get to it first. Only after they have installed their toys does it get deivered to the buyer. They leave no sign that the packing has been interfered with.

That would suggest that walking into the local computer shop and buying off the shelf would be a safer bet than ordering on line. If you were likely to be of interest to TPTB.

or not buying intel (guess which jew country does intel), only running bios mobos... openwrt router...

[Gremlin]

That would suggest that walking into the local computer shop and buying off the shelf would be a safer bet than ordering on line. If you were likely to be of interest to TPTB.
Yes, been a while now, that the NSA/et al could intercept server/router shipments, change the firmware/BIOS so you'd never know, and then send it on to you.

Ultimately, you'd build it yourself, and obviously not put Windows on it (something like Tails), Tor browser and crypts.

Even so, there are massive data centres in the regions where the cables cross (middle east etc) and they're trying to intercept as much as possible. There was an article recently about staying secure and crossing borders (like US Customs). Basically advised to carry no data and then connect when through. I had to chuckle though, some of our clients have been remoting into their work machines via secure software for 10+ years. No data leaves the network, laptops are simply access terminals etc.

[Akzle]

remoting into their work machines via secure software for 10+ years. No data leaves the network, laptops are simply access terminals etc.

congratulations you just invented ssh. the 90s, you say? oh// wait on, microsoft. :/

[Gremlin]

congratulations you just invented ssh. the 90s, you say? oh// wait on, microsoft. :/
SSH indeed. Tested against VPN, tunnels, RDP etc in the last few years, still remains one of the most efficient ways of transmitting data.

[pete376403]

"New Intel based PC's PERMANENTLY hackable (snip)

So pull the power cord /switch off at the wall. Sorted.

[Akzle]

SSH indeed. Tested against VPN, tunnels, RDP etc in the last few years, still remains one of the most efficient ways of transmitting data.

aren't you just itching to see microsofts "native" implementation.. :laugh: most people call that stealing code. you better pay for it though

[Akzle]

ahahahahahahaaaa.Microshit's up to date (2015) blog thing:

" As Microsoft has shifted towards a more customer-oriented
culture..."

as opposed to.... :laugh::rofl:


fuck you, pay me.

[Gremlin]

ahahahahahahaaaa.Microshit's up to date (2015) blog thing:

" As Microsoft has shifted towards a more customer-oriented
culture..."

as opposed to.... :laugh::rofl:
They reported to an investors conference that under the old model (perpetual licensing) they received $100 and under the subscription model they received $180 (and guess who's pocket that comes out of). Then again, it's nothing new to have parts of MS doing different things. Their own software doesn't play nicely with each other...

[F5 Dave]

Well the deals done. Now I just have to sort the wall mounting.
Sony 43 android.

Thanks (mostly) all.

So do I like post up an IP address so you can all check up on me online?

[Autech]

Well the deals done. Now I just have to sort the wall mounting.
Sony 43 android.

Thanks (mostly) all.

So do I like post up an IP address so you can all check up on me online?

No need for that, I will hack your google n DNS look up your wifi transmission routing using upnp buffering.

Once I have done that I can remotely control your tv to send subliminal messages instructing you to buy a gun and kill akzle whilst singing Blur "Song 2".


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[F5 Dave]

. . . you must spread some rep before etc etc.:laugh:

[F5 Dave]

Made the interface bracket to attach to TV from a sheet of ally I harvested years ago. Cutouts for cables etc with grinder and burs filed off. Now need to do holes for wall bracket. But need wife to help hold the TV while I decide best place for it or if I need to move some shit.

Maybe I hold it while she decides is usual course of action.

[Autech]

Maybe I hold it while she decides is usual course of action.

Sorry what are you holding?


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[Berries]

Sorry what are you holding?


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If you VPN with a bit of SQL on channel 34 you can watch like the rest of us.





Sent from my TV using CIA protocol 24.

[F5 Dave]

I'm worried I may not be able to get it up tonight. I'm a bit tired.

[F5 Dave]

Well the wiff is impressed with the size and girth.

Bah, had to plug in BT keypad to put in WiFi password. But for some reason isn't taking it or seeing alternative WiFi so I can test that.

So irony of Morrisette proportions. . . my smart TV is working in dumb mode.

Ahh tomorrow, I had 3hrs sleep last night with a grumpy kid calling the shots.

[F5 Dave]

Ahh, good old wps button.

[Berries]

Well the wiff is impressed with the size and girth.
We all were.

[husaberg]

Ahh, good old wps button.

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