Yet another website wrecked....

[R650R]

Anyone else getting totally annoyed at previous functioning websites that are 'updated' and become unnavigatable pieces of trash, running slower and less easy to use.
I cant think of another industry that charges so much money and continually turns out a lesser grade product everytime the they touch something....

The latest is the mylotto page, the bits you need are all spread out now, have to scroll the page, runs slower and seems set up fort touchscreen type look. Also it refuses to rpeoerly remember my password and login, it teases you by pretending its there then you have to retype it.

One of the first was the metservice site, the previous site looked mundane but you could click through very fast to what you needed, the newer site seems so much slower.

Ad your hated webpage updates to the this IT hall of shame....

[merv]

New Lotto page is definitely crap. One attraction of the old site was to go in and watch the numbers roll and see them tick off against your ticket. While that can still be done on the new page it defaults to going straight to the completed ticket taking any fun out of the draw at all, leaving you to then choose to watch it roll on the second look. How illogical and as you say who in the damn industry designs this crap.

Only adds to my pet hate around Microsoft continually spoiling the best of its products at each upgrade only to add stuff you never wanted.

[Katman]

How illogical and as you say who in the damn industry designs this crap.

I.T. people.

Many of them have mental illnesses.

[AllanB]

Pretty sure there was issues of hacking with the mylotto app recently and that's been shut down. Maybe their new website has some problems too.

[Woodman]

Outlook email account. Just this week they have added another inbox called 'focused". Why do i need two inboxes? Fucking stupid solution to a problem that didn't exist.:weird:

[Ocean1]

I lost three days rebuilding my main work machine after a routine W10 update wrecked it.

Microsoft. Arseholes, to a man.

[TheDemonLord]

Dunno what you are talking about - everything is working fine for me....

[Akzle]

Anyone else getting totally annoyed at previous functioning websites that are 'updated' and become unnavigatable pieces of trash, running slower and less easy to use.
I cant think of another industry that charges so much money and continually turns out a lesser grade product everytime the they touch something....

The latest is the mylotto page, the bits you need are all spread out now, have to scroll the page, runs slower and seems set up fort touchscreen type look. Also it refuses to rpeoerly remember my password and login, it teases you by pretending its there then you have to retype it.

One of the first was the metservice site, the previous site looked mundane but you could click through very fast to what you needed, the newer site seems so much slower.

Ad your hated webpage updates to the this IT hall of shame....

refer my thread "dear http://m.*" i've een bawing about this for fucking days. the internet is now pretty much retard-suitable, and consequently, full of fucking retards.
worst is the ird, chopping and changing shit, and i've no idea much they paid what fucking consultant or designer, but afaik there was no public consultation, can you spell misappropriation of public funds?
vote akze.

[Gremlin]

Only adds to my pet hate around Microsoft continually spoiling the best of its products at each upgrade only to add stuff you never wanted.
It's the perpetual moving around of things that drives me crazy. Now supporting 3 or more operating systems, for some calls it's first trying to ask super simple questions to figure out which operating system they're using then try and remember how to walk them through what they need to do.

I'm not really surprised that websites are now following software. They think they know what you need, and you're going to damn well love it :mad:

[Akzle]

I lost three days rebuilding my main work machine after a routine W10 update wrecked it.

Microsoft. Arseholes, to a man.
you know there are alternatives, right?




I'm not really surprised that websites are now following software. They think they know what you need, and you're going to damn well love it :mad:

no that's just micro-soft.

[Ocean1]

you know there are alternatives, right?

Yes. I could build a W7 box and disconnect it from the rest of the world.

That's it.

[Akzle]

Yes. I could build a W7 box and disconnect it from the rest of the world.

That's it.

oh i don't thinkso. but also. backups.

[ruaphu]

I.T. people.

Many of them have mental illnesses.

Fucken right there, those IT - IS -OS or whatever acronym these tards call themselves these days still haven't figured they are the mechanics of PC's n software, not some form of demi god we are all expected to kiss their arses.

Everytime I have to engage with these pricks they want to tell my job and how to do it................. just fix the fucking the problem and fuck off back to ya corner assholes! Some of us need to work for a living.

Biggest bunch of oxygen thieves on the planet, fuck global warming, wipe out the IS crowd, problem solved.


Btw there is only one demi god................. AX, all the way, bahahahaha



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[Akzle]

Btw there is only one demi god................. AX, all the way, bahahahaha
who you calling demi-???



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oh! the bittersweet iRony!

:killingme

(see what i did there)

[R650R]

Yes. I could build a W7 box and disconnect it from the rest of the world.

That's it.

I now a top photographer who uses an old machine with XP and several generations behind photoshop CS3 with all updates permanenrtly disabled.
He has occasional issues with modern social media platforms cobnecting but otherwise is fully operational.

[Akzle]

that would have to be the punjoke of the year.

your welcome, cunts. that you got to bear witness.

vote akzle.

[Akzle]

I now a top photographer who uses an old machine with XP and several generations behind photoshop CS3 with all updates permanenrtly disabled.
He has occasional issues with modern social media platforms cobnecting but otherwise is fully operational.

adobe ruined photoshop.

[Akzle]

I now a top photographer who uses an old machine with XP and several generations behind photoshop CS3 with all updates permanenrtly disabled.
He has occasional issues with modern social media platforms cobnecting but otherwise is fully operational.

are you just liek, always cut? your speeling is all up to fuck all the time.

[Grumph]

I now a top photographer who uses an old machine with XP and several generations behind photoshop CS3 with all updates permanenrtly disabled.
He has occasional issues with modern social media platforms cobnecting but otherwise is fully operational.

Congratulate him from me - I've lost around 2/3 of my photo archive due to an unsolicited update.

[Mike.Gayner]

Congratulate him from me - I've lost around 2/3 of my photo archive due to an unsolicited update.

People who don't keep good backups don't have the right to bitch about data loss.

[Ocean1]

oh i don't thinkso. but also. backups.

You're full of shit, go away.

[Akzle]

You're full of shit, go away.

said the guy who spent three days rebuilding a winblows shitbox to the guy who's cracked >98% uptime for the last decade.

-edit- and has not accidentally lost even one meg of data.

drunkenly fuckwitbutterfinger the delete keyed some though :oops:

[TheDemonLord]

I think the reason why upgrades are done on perfectly good software is so the staff responsible are not put out of work. Maybe IT managers need to be on to this and redeploy the upgraders doing something else or lay them off.

Hahahahahahaha


Oh? You think you are being serious?

BWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[TheDemonLord]

Fucken right there, those IT - IS -OS or whatever acronym these tards call themselves these days still haven't figured they are the mechanics of PC's n software, not some form of demi god we are all expected to kiss their arses.

Everytime I have to engage with these pricks they want to tell my job and how to do it................. just fix the fucking the problem and fuck off back to ya corner assholes! Some of us need to work for a living.

Biggest bunch of oxygen thieves on the planet, fuck global warming, wipe out the IS crowd, problem solved.


Btw there is only one demi god................. AX, all the way, bahahahaha



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Well, if they upset you so much - you could always Google it yourself and fix it yourself....

(it's what 99% of those IT folk do anyway...)

[Delerium]

Fucken right there, those IT - IS -OS or whatever acronym these tards call themselves these days still haven't figured they are the mechanics of PC's n software, not some form of demi god we are all expected to kiss their arses.

Everytime I have to engage with these pricks they want to tell my job and how to do it................. just fix the fucking the problem and fuck off back to ya corner assholes! Some of us need to work for a living.

Biggest bunch of oxygen thieves on the planet, fuck global warming, wipe out the IS crowd, problem solved.


Btw there is only one demi god................. AX, all the way, bahahahaha



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Stop bitching and moaning out of ignorance and educate yourself

[Delerium]

I think the reason why upgrades are done on perfectly good software is so the staff responsible are not put out of work. Maybe IT managers need to be on to this and redeploy the upgraders doing something else or lay them off.

Fuck off with your ignorance

[Delerium]

Well, if they upset you so much - you could always Google it yourself and fix it yourself....

(it's what 99% of those IT folk do anyway...)

Sash. Don't tell.

[husaberg]

Well, if they upset you so much - you could always Google it yourself and fix it yourself....

(it's what 99% of those IT folk do anyway...)

Which is why you get them to Reboot first (just to buy the time to do it):bleh:

[R650R]

are you just liek, always cut? your speeling is all up to fuck all the time.

Its the jews... everytime I start posting links debunking the latest scams they keep jamming my browser type windows.
Keystroke logging and trigger words mean my posts are usually jammed up five words intoa sdentance

[Gremlin]

Fucken right there, those IT - IS -OS or whatever acronym these tards call themselves these days still haven't figured they are the mechanics of PC's n software, not some form of demi god we are all expected to kiss their arses.
Actually I see the responsibility. If the power is out, there is pretty much nothing I can do, but if the power is on, then it's probably my problem and I better get it sorted. Clients can lose thousands an hour in downtime and lost productivity, such is the reliance on technology.

However, if you can't type your password correctly and keep getting locked out, or ask me to give you back a virus (a removed attachment) then yes, I'm not going to be all smiles. People come and go, but the network is always there, and yes, that's my priority.

[R650R]

However, if you can't type your password correctly and keep getting locked out,...

I dont get this BS where IT dept says you have to change your password every 30 days. If someone knows your login ID and CAN hack/guess your password after 30 days, surely afterawhile they get better and do it in less than 30 days....
It gets to the point that you've used so many easy to remember password that you default to the bare minimum criteria and actually make it easier for any potential hackers...
You dont hear locksmiths saying hey you need to rekey your car or house every 30 days, soembody might have been trying to pick your locka nd their getting close to cutting a master key for your house.....

[Gremlin]

Depends on dept, personally I don't agree with rolling passwords for many of the reasons you point out. Often the password is written on a postit and stuck on the monitor. However, for some ISO standards etc, as part of a company gaining the accreditation, there are specific requirements, including passwords having an age. Locking out the account after too many incorrect attempts certainly has value, as it slows down any attempt to crack.

As for the locksmith/key analogy, well, they can only attempt access when standing in front of your house and giving it a crack. Your network account is often open 24/7 to the world (how else do you get your emails on your mobile - access is a double edged sword).

You'd only have to monitor firewalls (part of what I do) to see the massive attempts at trying to gain access. Eastern bloc and China/Asia are the most common sources. It's easy when things go well to underestimate security, but you'll realise that when it's too late.

[TheDemonLord]

I dont get this BS where IT dept says you have to change your password every 30 days. If someone knows your login ID and CAN hack/guess your password after 30 days, surely afterawhile they get better and do it in less than 30 days....
It gets to the point that you've used so many easy to remember password that you default to the bare minimum criteria and actually make it easier for any potential hackers...
You dont hear locksmiths saying hey you need to rekey your car or house every 30 days, soembody might have been trying to pick your locka nd their getting close to cutting a master key for your house.....

Assume I've got your password, and you don't change it (because no user changes their password unless you force them to) - I've got access to everything you have access to, until it changes.

If I'm smart - you won't ever know I've got access to your account.

Furthermore - if I'm really smart, I'll use your account to glean information about your corporate network in order to compromise a more privledged account in order to REALLY fuck with your shit.

So yes - it's actually really important you change passwords to a schedule.

If it's too difficult to remember - use a Password Vault (like Last Pass or similar)

Put it this way - in a week, we probably deal with up to 50 Compromised Websites and one of the biggest attack vectors is weak passwords that haven't been changed in a while.

And as for picking a lock - when you can pick thousands locks simultaneously from the comfort of your own home.....

/sysadmin Rant.

[swbarnett]

you know there are alternatives, right?
Normally I'd agree with you but when you're talking corporate policy there are none. Can't even turn off automatic updates on Windows.

[Gremlin]

Furthermore - if I'm really smart, I'll use your account to glean information about your corporate network in order to compromise a more privledged account in order to REALLY fuck with your shit.
How about an owner with weak password that insisted on being a domain admin as it was their network...

Then they opened a crypto variant...

[Akzle]

.....

/sysadmin Rant.

baahahahahahahahaa... you.

IT head does not a sysadmin make.

[Akzle]

Normally I'd agree with you but when you're talking corporate policy there are none. Can't even turn off automatic updates on Windows.

then your in the wrong corporate.

[swbarnett]

then your in the wrong corporate.
OS policy is not the only factor when choosing an employer.

[Akzle]

I think

you've repeatedly proven you don't

[Akzle]

I dont get this BS where IT dept says you have to change your password every 30 days. If someone knows your login ID and CAN hack/guess your password after 30 days, surely afterawhile they get better and do it in less than 30 days....
It gets to the point that you've used so many easy to remember password that you default to the bare minimum criteria and actually make it easier for any potential hackers...
You dont hear locksmiths saying hey you need to rekey your car or house every 30 days, soembody might have been trying to pick your locka nd their getting close to cutting a master key for your house.....

batterystaplehorse bro

[Akzle]

OS policy is not the only factor when choosing an employer.

yeah but which fkn muppet running the network allows every single node to whore bandwidth downloading the same shit X times???


and to be fair, if the company has an os policy (or >3 computers) it's likely not on my list of choices

[TheDemonLord]

How about an owner with weak password that insisted on being a domain admin as it was their network...

Then they opened a crypto variant...

I would laugh, but it cuts a little too close to home....

[pritch]

I lost three days rebuilding my main work machine after a routine W10 update wrecked it.

Microsoft. Arseholes, to a man.

Wot ever are you doing using that stuff? :devil2:

[pritch]

batterystaplehorse bro

Staple? :innocent:

[swbarnett]

yeah but which fkn muppet running the network allows every single node to whore bandwidth downloading the same shit X times???
Noone here. Downloaded once then distributed.


nd to be fair, if the company has an os policy (or >3 computers) it's likely not on my list of choices
I understand the sentient but this is kind of hard in my line of work.

[Grumph]

I understand the sentient

Was this a freudian slip ? Remember, you're quoting axhole....

[swbarnett]

Was this a freudian slip ? Remember, you're quoting axhole....
Don't know about Freud but it was definitely a slip. Forgot the M.

[TheDemonLord]

You must be a software updater to take offence to my post?

Yes.... there is such a job title within IT as 'Software updater'....

















Perhaps, your response is proof of the very ignorance that he is talking about...

[5150]

www.fantasticc.com has been running like sht the last couple of weeks :facepalm: movies not loading and content not updated. Grrrr..... :confused:

[Akzle]

Noone here. Downloaded once then distributed.
so why do clients need updates on?



I understand the sentient
no, i'm not entirely sure you do...


but this is kind of hard in my line of work.
pretty shit line of work. probably doesn't achieve much or benefit society a whole lot.

each to their own.


Staple? :innocent:

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/password_strength.png
(yes, that's an o/s image. no, i still wont give you a handjob gremlin. deal with it. xkcd in full colour.)

[swbarnett]

so why do clients need updates on?
This is internal, not to clients.


no, i'm not entirely sure you do...
In Switzerland I worked in a company of four people. I would love to work for a small company again but that's just not practical in NZ given the way my career has gone.


pretty shit line of work. probably doesn't achieve much or benefit society a whole lot.
Let's see:


Ensure that blood can be collected and dispensed when needed
Ensure that people receive health insurance payouts
Ensure that a fair part of the Auckland region gets electricity

To name just a few off the top of my head.

[Akzle]

This is internal, not to clients.
:facepalm: network clients.

.


Let's see:


Ensure that blood can be collected and dispensed when needed
Ensure that people receive health insurance payouts
Ensure that a fair part of the Auckland region gets electricity

To name just a few off the top of my head.

all of those are done by skilled men. not computers.
and insurance is jew shit so shouldn't be doing anyway.

[Akzle]

In Switzerland I worked in a company of four people. I would love to work for a small company again but that's just not practical in NZ given the way my career has gone.

.

i was responding to the literal thing you said. not what you meant.


your respose ironically kinda proves my point.

[swbarnett]

:facepalm: network clients.
This is not my department but as I understand it the Windows PCs have updates turned on and pointed at a central source within the company.


all of those are done by skilled men. not computers.
Maybe in the dark ages. In the modern world none of those are possible given the scale of the business without computers.


and insurance is jew shit so shouldn't be doing anyway.
Actually, I have some sympathy for that viewpoint. However, in pragmatic terms it's a modern necessary (necessary evil perhaps).

[swbarnett]

i was responding to the literal thing you said. not what you meant.
Ah! You mean the way I misspelled it?


your respose ironically kinda proves my point.
Yes, I do agree that smaller companies can make for more intimate and friendlier workplaces.

[Akzle]

This is not my department but as I understand it the Windows PCs have updates turned on and pointed at a central source within the company.


Maybe in the dark ages. In the modern world none of those are possible given the scale of the business without computers.


Actually, I have some sympathy for that viewpoint. However, in pragmatic terms it's a modern necessary (necessary evil perhaps).
not my network. and windows. so lol.

i hate to break it to you, but real work is still done by skilled men with tools. the fact that there's a corporate of tools in offices behind them doesn't in any way negate that.

no evil is necessary.

[Akzle]

Ah! You mean the way I misspelled it?


Yes, I do agree that smaller companies can make for more intimate and friendlier workplaces.

close but still no cookies.

[swbarnett]

i hate to break it to you, but real work is still done by skilled men with tools. the fact that there's a corporate of tools in offices behind them doesn't in any way negate that.
Nothing to break. I've held that view my entire life and I've seen nothing to challenge it. Computers are simply tools. Before computers there were other tools that did a similar job (at least at a basic level) - pen, paper and skilled brains. With the massive increase in scale this is no longer feasible. Modern business (and a lot of other things) simply isn't possible today without computers to do the massive amounts of leg work necessary in the time allowed.


no evil is necessary.
It's part of the definition - without evil there is no good. For good can only be defined in relative terms. Both are only human constructs anyway; without sentient life neither exists.

[Akzle]

Nothing to break. I've held that view my entire life and I've seen nothing to challenge it. Computers are simply tools. Before computers there were other tools that did a similar job (at least at a basic level) - pen, paper and skilled brains. With the massive increase in scale this is no longer feasible. Modern business (and a lot of other things) simply isn't possible today without computers to do the massive amounts of leg work necessary in the time allowed.


It's part of the definition - without evil there is no good. For good can only be defined in relative terms. Both are only human constructs anyway; without sentient life neither exists.

except for your definition of "necessary" and concept of "allowed time"

and i don't subscribe to duopolism.

[trufflebutter]

Computers are simply tools.

I have seen evidence that some who use them also fit into that category.

[swbarnett]

I have seen evidence that some who use them also fit into that category.
Given the day I've had that's rather appropriate.

[ruaphu]

Well, if they upset you so much - you could always Google it yourself and fix it yourself....

(it's what 99% of those IT folk do anyway...)

Yep do it at home, but at work.......... yeah nah the productivity personnel get titchy eh.


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[ruaphu]

Stop bitching and moaning out of ignorance and educate yourself

I do at home, all sweet as, but work,yeh nah, different rules eh.


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[ruaphu]

not my network. and windows. so lol.

i hate to break it to you, but real work is still done by skilled men with tools. the fact that there's a corporate of tools in offices behind them doesn't in any way negate that.

no evil is necessary.

Soo true


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[skippa1]

I think the reason why upgrades are done on perfectly good software is so the staff responsible are not put out of work. Maybe IT managers need to be on to this and redeploy the upgraders doing something else or lay them off.
Lost me when you said....."I think"

[F5 Dave]

not my network. and windows. so lol.

i hate to break it to you, but real work is still done by skilled men with tools. the fact that there's a corporate of tools in offices behind them doesn't in any way negate that.

no evil is necessary.
What about doing the dishes?

I mean, you can put it off, but. . ,

[Akzle]

What about doing the dishes?

I mean, you can put it off, but. . ,

there's an app for that.