View Full Version : Dont' come to Hawke's Bay for awhile...................
R650R
19th April 2017, 16:17
Finally our best/worst deathtrap intersection is getting fixed, but sweet JESUS, 14 freakin months to build a roundabout..........
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11840182
Are we a third world country or what? I know theres a lot of related issues, doing drains, creating a base etc and keeping existign traffic moving while you do the work but holy hell why does it take so long?????
Also as usual with all new roundabouts built to NZTA specs, expect a truck or two to rollover withen several weeks of opening... hopefully they realise this when they do the integrated cycle lane design part..............
https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-39.4739875,176.8777995,699m/data=!3m1!1e3
johcar
19th April 2017, 16:37
It takes that long because the contractors will only work six hours a day, five days a week - except if it's too hot or too wet. In which case, they will be sent home, but be paid anyway.
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husaberg
19th April 2017, 16:39
It takes that long because the contractors will only work six hours a day, five days a week - except if it's too hot or too wet. In which case, they will be sent home, but be paid anyway.
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The rest of the time is now taken up with safety meetings, site inductions. etc dude..........
Ocean1
19th April 2017, 16:48
It takes that long because the contractors will only work six hours a day, five days a week - except if it's too hot or too wet. In which case, they will be sent home, but be paid anyway.
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Pfffttt! As if!
Next time you're passing a "work" site count the number actually doing something.
6 Hrs a day be fucked.
johcar
19th April 2017, 16:54
Pfffttt! As if!
Next time you're passing a "work" site count the number actually doing something.
6 Hrs a day be fucked.
I was being generous!!! :D
I have a five hundred metre section of road near me (one lane each way) that has been closed since late January and will take until November to reopen. They are rebuilding it.
If this was Japan it would be done and dusted to an amazing standard in two weeks!
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Ocean1
19th April 2017, 17:09
I was being generous!!! :D
I have a five hundred metre section of road near me (one lane each way) that has been closed since late January and will take until November to reopen. They are rebuilding it.
If this was Japan it would be done and dusted to an amazing standard in two weeks!
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I've been watching "progress" on the newly opened Haywards Hill interchange roundabout thing over tha last year or so.
Nothing technical, just the rough ratio of people in dayglo skivies doing shit to people not doing shit any particular time I pass.
I regularly count 0 out of 20 odd working. Couple of weeks ago I was gobsmacked to see 6 out of 13 working.
None of that includes the insanely pointless "traffic control" outfits loitering in the area.
Fuck it's depressing.
Moi
19th April 2017, 17:15
... If this was Japan it would be done and dusted to an amazing standard in two weeks!
Not just the Japanese...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btOE0rcKDC0
Dadpole
19th April 2017, 17:46
That's because private enterprise does it better (Tui)
I would love a roading contract the way things are done around here. Pissing down? Chuck the seal down anyway and book a reseal (bonus) next month.
bogan
19th April 2017, 18:13
Point of order, hawkes bay be up to fuck all round that area anyway. That road isn't required to get to the beaches is it? And why else would you go to Hawkes Bay...
I've been watching "progress" on the newly opened Haywards Hill interchange roundabout thing over tha last year or so.
Nothing technical, just the rough ratio of people in dayglo skivies doing shit to people not doing shit any particular time I pass.
I regularly count 0 out of 20 odd working. Couple of weeks ago I was gobsmacked to see 6 out of 13 working.
None of that includes the insanely pointless "traffic control" outfits loitering in the area.
Fuck it's depressing.
That and the fucking chip seal, for fuck sake use hot mix so you don't have to come back in 3 months and fix it; and that's being fucking generous, normally in 3 months they're still fucking there anyway trying to finish the initial job, so they just start resealing the same shit again.
WNJ
19th April 2017, 18:55
Had to laugh the other day watching by the Taupiri xpress way build, 5 workers in hi-vis watching the "BOSS" down the hole showing them how to dig :laugh:
husaberg
19th April 2017, 19:00
Had to laugh the other day watching by the Taupiri xpress way build, 5 workers in hi-vis watching the "BOSS" down the hole showing them how to dig :laugh:
Are you sure it wasn't for the novelty value of the boss doing actual work.:bleh:
Ocean1
19th April 2017, 19:06
Point of order, hawkes bay be up to fuck all round that area anyway. That road isn't required to get to the beaches is it? And why else would you go to Hawkes Bay...
That and the fucking chip seal, for fuck sake use hot mix so you don't have to come back in 3 months and fix it; and that's being fucking generous, normally in 3 months they're still fucking there anyway trying to finish the initial job, so they just start resealing the same shit again.
Aye. Borderline relevant: few years ago chipseal was about $12/M2, hotmix $75/M2. So the proper job gas to last over six times as long I suppose.
They seem to be changing the way they do shit too, was a time you only saw chipseal as a surface repair over structurally sound hotmix, to re-waterproof it.
I'm not sure if I'm more depressed that I can only charge my customers for the work I actually do or that I missed the breast feeding a shovel booth at careers day.
R650R
21st April 2017, 09:55
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11842152
Remember when the govt used to harp on about the social and economic cost of the road toll, how a fatal crash used to cost the economy, 1-2 million dollars in terms of lost earning/productivity/skill base and also the cost of emergency response etc....
Funny how you dont hear it these days when we spend 250 million plus per week on benefit payments. Without doing a tally up I'm sure the people killed and injured at this intersection over the years has cost a lot more then the mere 13 million its going to cost to fix it properly.
And screw the bird life, its already a noisey busy area, I'm sure the flocked feckers can fly to somewhere safer.....
How can these guys stand there smiling knowing how many people have died at that obvious abortion of an intersection over the years. Also transit favourite band aid of various special speed limit changes and oranage lane delineator posts havent worked either, actually contributing tos everal crashes when motorists have driven around them into worng lanes cause they dont like the tight lanes/turns....
That should eb an instant loss of licence, unable to selct correct lane.... rant over.
Ocean1
21st April 2017, 13:15
Also transit favourite band aid of various special speed limit changes and oranage lane delineator posts havent worked either,
"Traffic calming furniture" :laugh:
There's a local I know that's not all that calmed by them. He made a special attachment for one of his vehicles and has at least two successful orange post felling missions to his credit. :killingme
jasonu
21st April 2017, 16:22
14 months is about right. Council work at its best. Go and have a look, you will see 10 fat cunts leaning on shovels and maybe one or 2 other cunts actually doing something.
R650R
23rd April 2017, 13:54
14 months is about right. Council work at its best. Go and have a look, you will see 10 fat cunts leaning on shovels and maybe one or 2 other cunts actually doing something.
State Highway in three direction so should be mostly Transit NZ in charge. Funny thing is up the road a new industrial site was built up from bare farmland in months with drainage and base material added, not tar sealed but interesting comparison......
Tazz
23rd April 2017, 18:49
I was being generous!!! :D
I have a five hundred metre section of road near me (one lane each way) that has been closed since late January and will take until November to reopen. They are rebuilding it.
If this was Japan it would be done and dusted to an amazing standard in two weeks!
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Do the Japanese do the bidding system amongst chosen contractors like here?
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