New 1Tonne Duel Storm Jacket

[1tonne]

Hi Guys

We have designed another new jacket that a lot of you may like. It is aimed at people who ride in the middle of winter in really bad conditions. What we are aiming for is to have a jacket that is one of NZ's warmest and most waterproof jackets on the market.

Check out : http://www.1tonne.co.nz/product/duel-storm-jacket-duel-waterproof-membrane/156/100/

We would love to hear your feedback from those of you who purchase the jacket as this is going to be a work in progress. So even though this is a jacket that will beat most out there, I do not mind making small changes to improve the design of the jacket. Customer feedback is always good. Like I said, I would like this to be one of NZ's warmest and most waterproof jackets on the market.

Cheers
Nathan
Safe riding.

[Swoop]

"Duel"? Does it shoot at you?


Your listing states:
Dual Storm zips
Dual storm flap closure system.


Why the name change?

(I'm sure it's a wonderful product!)

[Taxythingy]

First recommendation: change the name to Dual Storm with an 'a', since you are talking about two membranes.

Looks very good, but I don't shop at the Supa Centre down here on principle and can't see myself wearing what looks like a mis-spelled name on my jacket either. I'd get too much crap from my colleagues, for starters.

Edit: should type faster and edit less.

[Scubbo]

cool will give it a go after my explorer dies --- biggest issue with the Explorer is the velcro pockets suck, the velcro has no power to stick the flap closed >_< hopefully better velcro on this one

[AllanB]

Duel Storm

Spelling may be as desired - implying the jacket is fit to combat (duel) any weather.


Aye - not bad if one reads it like that.

[Voltaire]

I had the hi viz explorer for a couple of years, did a trip to Vietnam and India but never tested the protection.

I found the waterproof liner fiddly to fit and best left out unless its actually raining as turns into sweat box.

Currently looking to replace but would need to know about 'membrane'... is it just seam welded plastic?

[1tonne]

Crap. My crappy spelling. Suck. Will get the spelling changed in the next order to Dual but for the meantime I will keep the "E" there until they are sold out. (I only have a few of these jackets as it is a sample shipment). It was meant to be Dual as in 2 membranes. (I spell checked it originally and it came up all ok but I guess that is because of the 2 meanings.)

[1tonne]

Currently looking to replace but would need to know about 'membrane'... is it just seam welded plastic?

Both membranes are like the All Season one except one membrane is inbuilt while the other is removable. So stitched with seam welded over the top of the stitch.

[Ulsterkiwi]

lots of adjustability and neat features like the neck warmer make this look very attractive.
Would you consider offering the jacket with high viz panels? I like to wear hi-viz, especially on the commute but wearing it means I cannot access jacket pockets etc. Makes me wonder why more do not either do the Rev'It thing and offer a hi-viz vest that integrates or have jacket with hi-viz panels at least.
I am intrigued by the double waterproof liner. Is it supposed to be windproof too?
I am curous how vents are supposed to work with an inbuilt liner if the liner is designed to be windproof.
In the description you say the jacket has foam back armour. Is that different to a piece of foam padding that a lot of manufacturers put in the pocket rather than actual armour? You would be on a winner if its actual armour.

[1tonne]

lots of adjustability and neat features like the neck warmer make this look very attractive.
Would you consider offering the jacket with high viz panels? I like to wear hi-viz, especially on the commute but wearing it means I cannot access jacket pockets etc. Makes me wonder why more do not either do the Rev'It thing and offer a hi-viz vest that integrates or have jacket with hi-viz panels at least.
I am intrigued by the double waterproof liner. Is it supposed to be windproof too?
I am curous how vents are supposed to work with an inbuilt liner if the liner is designed to be windproof.
In the description you say the jacket has foam back armour. Is that different to a piece of foam padding that a lot of manufacturers put in the pocket rather than actual armour? You would be on a winner if its actual armour.

I will be looking at some form of high vis panels on the jacket in the future. Our High Vis All Season Explorer jacket is currently the only high vis jacket that we have and it took me a long time (about 6 different designs that did not look right) to get the right mix of high vis panels and black panels. Many of the designs high vis designs I done were too yellow and if it is too yellow, the jacket just won't sell well. So I need to good mix to make the jacket not look so overbearing.
The waterproof layers should be wind proof. Especially with both layers in there.
When the airvents are open, the air will flow into the and cool the inbuilt membrane down. This in turn will help to cool the rider down. Obviously it will not cool the rider down as much as vents that flow straight onto the rider but this jacket is designed more for the cold weather. Not hot weather.
The back armour is just a foam padding like most other jackets.

[Ulsterkiwi]

I will be looking at some form of high vis panels on the jacket in the future. Our High Vis All Season Explorer jacket is currently the only high vis jacket that we have and it took me a long time (about 6 different designs that did not look right) to get the right mix of high vis panels and black panels. Many of the designs high vis designs I done were too yellow and if it is too yellow, the jacket just won't sell well. So I need to good mix to make the jacket not look so overbearing.
The waterproof layers should be wind proof. Especially with both layers in there.
When the airvents are open, the air will flow into the and cool the inbuilt membrane down. This in turn will help to cool the rider down. Obviously it will not cool the rider down as much as vents that flow straight onto the rider but this jacket is designed more for the cold weather. Not hot weather.
The back armour is just a foam padding like most other jackets.

Thank you, comprehensive answers. Nice to see local efforts to address local needs.
On the back armour thing, is the pocket designed to take a particular shape or type of aftermarket armour? Am thinking Rev'It again with their CeeSoft range where you can buy the armour separately and the pockets are designed with it in mind

[1tonne]

Thank you, comprehensive answers. Nice to see local efforts to address local needs.
On the back armour thing, is the pocket designed to take a particular shape or type of aftermarket armour? Am thinking Rev'It again with their CeeSoft range where you can buy the armour separately and the pockets are designed with it in mind

The pocket is not designed for any particular armour. Just a rectangle foam pad.

[MD]

Good of you Nathan to announce the new product on here. My textile jacket is showing it's age and a tad ugly so this looks the business for winter. I have your Storm winter gloves and they are the best I've used so I'll take one of these.

The idea of having the misspelt Duel Storm does appeal to my humour but without sounding picky or cheeky, is there a risk the sample shipment wont be as, how do I say it, quality made as the regular production items to follow?
Early adopters often pay the price when any new product comes out and the manufacturer has to make some improvements for subsequent buyers.

Do you have a L in stock now? Will they connect to your Standard Motorcycle pants ($125). If so I'll get them to complete the set.

Cheers
Mark

[1tonne]

Good of you Nathan to announce the new product on here. My textile jacket is showing it's age and a tad ugly so this looks the business for winter. I have your Storm winter gloves and they are the best I've used so I'll take one of these.

The idea of having the misspelt Duel Storm does appeal to my humour but without sounding picky or cheeky, is there a risk the sample shipment wont be as, how do I say it, quality made as the regular production items to follow?
Early adopters often pay the price when any new product comes out and the manufacturer has to make some improvements for subsequent buyers.

Do you have a L in stock now? Will they connect to your Standard Motorcycle pants ($125). If so I'll get them to complete the set.

Cheers
Mark

The quality is very much up there in this first shipment although as I said in the first post, I am open to idea on changes. So the jacket will most likely change over time but I cannot see it changing very much. It should also connect to the standard motorcycle pants. Cheers

[MD]

The quality is very much up there in this first shipment although as I said in the first post, I am open to idea on changes. So the jacket will most likely change over time but I cannot see it changing very much. It should also connect to the standard motorcycle pants. Cheers

Sold on both counts.

[MD]

Once again 1tonne delivered within 2 days a really good value product.
1. textile pants $125
I have scoffed at, laughed at, winced at the sight of textile pants and never worn textile pants. I always thought they screamed geriatric old man with no self respect about his image. Which they do, which I now am. So I bought some.
From first inspection and just wearing them around the house today for awhile to see how they feel. These are good quality, comfy and don't look too bad (for old man gear). Really pleased I got some.
2. Duel Storm textile jacket
Blown away by the complexity of the design and the challenge that must have posed to manufacture. This is one clever piece of kit. Looks very well made and looks good on. This is not a summer or spring/autumn jacket. This is serious winter protection. I can see people wearing G-strings only underneath when minus 5.
I'm looking forward to trying it all out on the road and then I can test the differences when the thermal liner is removed and/or the waterproof liner removed. I'm guessing with some liners out it will be great for Spring/Autumn use.

The neck warmer thingy does seem OTT to me and took ages to figure out how to get the jacket on first then zip up and seal warmer in place. All too fiddly for me to bother. When in place there's no way I could get my Vozz hinged helmet on but my standard lid fits over OK.
In the end in the worse of winter I wrap a scarf around my neck.

Four pockets on the back plus six others seems a bit OTT to me but hey they don't take anything away from the good looks and it is good use of space to carry stuff. I just don't know anyone who needs so many pockets. That's not a criticism just an observation.

Pants fit me spot on but the jacket, like most people in textile riding gear, it does make me look like the Michelin man. Doubt going down a size would be wise though. The hassle of buying online and not being able to do a fitting.

So well done 1tonne for making what must be the best value winter jacket and pants out there and thanks Nathan for the quick service.

Mark

[1tonne]

Thanks Mark for the feedback

We are really happy with the jacket and as you said, it is built for winter use but can also be used it the spring and autumn with the liners out. During the summer it would be too hot though unless you like to cook.

The neck warmer is designed more for someone touring the South Island. So hopping on the bike and going long distance. This would mean they would not have to take it on and off a lot as it is a little fiddly but with practise becomes easier.
I perfer the looks of the jacket without the neck liner but it still looks good with it. As you said, it could be a little OTT. Better to be OTT than not warm enough.

Once again, thanks for the feedback.

[Big Dog]

A size too small for me to be in the market, otherwise I like the look and the sound of this kit.

I have switched to your leather great after years of textile because most textile gear couldn't cope with decent rain for an hour or more and I ride every day so stowing heavy gear is the only viable option.

If this system works out it sounds like the ducks nuts.



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[GrayWolf]

That looks to be a good jacket. I ride all year, and have a selection of jackets etc. This one is 'similar' in look/warmth spec to my Touring jacket {Ixon specious} and will keep an eye for when it needs to be replaced.

VERY good to see the 'abrasion' are is 1000dn over the standard 600. Maybe put that on the elbows/forearm areas too? One of my biggest criticism's over the years HAS been the 'fashion' away from proper 'double flap' jackets on the main zip. I've had many a 'wet ride' where rain has 'wicked' through the zip area. So good to see someone doing double flap jackets again.

Already have your leather bib n brace pants this would be a definite 'watch' for touring replacement to match them.

[1tonne]

Just so everyone knows. We have brought the price down to only $229.00.
Not sure how long this price will last. So get in quick.