Man cave fit out....

[R650R]

Stage one.... looking at painted workshop floor.

anyone used this stuff, bunnings have it http://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/rocksolid/garage-floor-kits/polycuramine-garage-floor-coating-kit

[ellipsis]

...it's from Bunnings...it's sure to be top quality...:msn-wink:

[bogan]

Doesn't look like it'd be rated for burnouts...

[caspernz]

In our last house the builder had applied something similar to what you've mentioned. Didn't cope with much before wearing thru and breaking up from there on. Dunno about quality of application of the coating.

Current house has garage carpet, must say this is a much preferred option for me.

[Akzle]

get the shit acid washed, and get the mekke shit. the brand escapes me but if it's cheap it's not mekke.

[AllanB]

My garage is coated with something. Appears very durable as I have laid a couple of darkies on it and not worn through the paint. (burnouts Akzle - not coloured people.......)

[rastuscat]

Use garage carpet. Just put a flat object under your side or main stand to stop the stand from marking the carpet.

[jasonu]

Dunno about that exact product but Rustolium generally make good stuff.

[F5 Dave]

Carpet?!!

Shit I dunno if the bare concrete of my garage was ever coated. But I'll tell you this for nothing: it'll never rust with the amount of oil spilt on it.

Also how can you risk welding??!?! - and vacuuming after using the lathe or grinder? Sheesh, what a bunch of metro sexuals.

[R650R]

My partners place has carpet not a fan for a variety of reasons, let alone fire risk mentioned above. Be like having a giant oil soaked rag there waiting for a grinder spRK.....

Think it would be flea factory as you'd never geta round to vacumning it properly often enough.
Like the idea of paint for light reflectivity and seeing stuff dropped on floor easier.

Yes axle prep is key, apparently concrete grind smooth and the acid etch wash...

[rastuscat]

My partners place has carpet not a fan for a variety of reasons, let alone fire risk mentioned above. Be like having a giant oil soaked rag there waiting for a grinder spRK......

I guess it depends on how you treat your garage. Mine is basically a spare room I park my bike in.

I don't own a pre-74 Triumph, so oil loss isn't an issue.

[russd7]

My partners place has carpet not a fan for a variety of reasons, let alone fire risk mentioned above. Be like having a giant oil soaked rag there waiting for a grinder spRK.....

Think it would be flea factory as you'd never geta round to vacumning it properly often enough.
Like the idea of paint for light reflectivity and seeing stuff dropped on floor easier.

Yes axle prep is key, apparently concrete grind smooth and the acid etch wash...

don't know about the smooth bit but definitely acid wash. we did the woodworkshop at work about 4yr ago and it gets forklift over it and people walking round all the time and the coating is only just starting to in the odd place now, we used the resene floor paint. the concrete we coated was probably laid in the early 70's.

prep was, sweep then vacuum.
acid wash then hose out, allow to dry, (doesn't need to be bone dry)
then coat using roller (did first thing in morning or last thing before knock off)
then second coat at other end of day/night

[F5 Dave]

Do you oil the chain or do any maintenance Rastus? Oh. Right. BMW owner. No chain and always back at the dealer for recalls so best not touch it.

[OddDuck]

Carpet?!!

Shit I dunno if the bare concrete of my garage was ever coated. But I'll tell you this for nothing: it'll never rust with the amount of oil spilt on it.

Also how can you risk welding??!?! - and vacuuming after using the lathe or grinder? Sheesh, what a bunch of metro sexuals.

+1. Carpet in garage... WTF? I'd love to have a coated garage floor someday though, something pale so it bounces light upwards.

[F5 Dave]

And easier to clean if one drops ones decaff half strength almond latte.

[Mike.Gayner]

People recommending carpet I can only assume pay some lacky at the workshop $100/hour to have their oil changed, and probably couldn't change a light bulb if they had to.

For me the garage is such a highly practical place - it's where I work on bikes, cars, where I mix chemicals and paints for various projects, fibreglass, where I grind and file. Unimaginable.

[Ulsterkiwi]

Have garage carpet in my bike shed. Great job, not at all slippery even when wet. I don't drop things on it so much so not a problem. Have changed the oil and done minor bolt on stuff, chain adjustment etc. Its not a problem. I don't have the skills for rebuilding a motor and don't need them, I have a working motorcycle instead.
If I want to make a mess I go to my man cave, bare concrete which is always dusty and dirty, that's not where I store the bikes.


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[cods4]

This is what we use in electrical substations. http://www.resene.co.nz/comn/whtsnew/Walk-on.htm

It lasts pretty well but still chips off where we are dragging 3-400kG circuit breakers across it but I don't think anything could withstand that. I quizzed the painter about it cause I was planning it for my own garage and he said if you are painting over oily concrete then put a base coat or sealer down first, but if it's new concrete or polished then you can put the paint straight down.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

My partners place has carpet not a fan for a variety of reasons, let alone fire risk mentioned above. Be like having a giant oil soaked rag there waiting for a grinder spRK.....

Think it would be flea factory as you'd never geta round to vacumning it properly often enough.
Like the idea of paint for light reflectivity and seeing stuff dropped on floor easier.

Yes axle prep is key, apparently concrete grind smooth and the acid etch wash...

I got our garage two pack painted when it was new. It was still in good condition 12 years later when the earthquakes came along and cracked it. They repaired it and re-applied the same coating. It is mint.

I bought some stuff from Placemakers in the last house advertised as "garage floor paint" and DIYed it - it was shit.

[Jeff Sichoe]

I'm gonna get some of those rubber tiles. My only concern is coming into the garage too hot and having them slip around.

[Voltaire]

And easier to clean if one drops ones decaff half strength almond latte.

Ain't that the truth and bloody croissant crumbs getting stuck on the oily pages of the Commando manual:baby:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ain't that the truth and bloody croissant crumbs getting stuck on the oily pages of the Commando manual:baby:

last time I did an oil change on one of my bikes i accidentally kicked the pan with waste oil in it and about 2l went on the floor. easy clean up with newspaper and rags and simple green. Exxon Valdez if it had been bare concrete I'd still be cleaning the shit up. Cement is the best thing but I'd have to go buy a bag and its 40kg!... way more than my almond croissant and latte

[F5 Dave]

Oh dear. But for comedy reasons I will have to disclose that I'm in a cafe reading this scoffing a croissant. But it's okay it has ham & cheese filling. :msn-wink:

[jasonu]

And easier to clean if one drops ones decaff half strength almond latte.

is that with or without fat/lactose/taste free soy milk...

[jasonu]

Oh dear. But for comedy reasons I will have to disclose that I'm in a cafe reading this scoffing a croissant. But it's okay it has ham & cheese filling. :msn-wink:

Faggot.
10 characters.....

[F5 Dave]

It's getting harder to deny it it seems. I'm not sure I can afford the change in wardrobe the new lifestyle demands.

[Akzle]

, but if it's new concrete or polished then you can put the paint straight down.
CH]

no cunt. even fresh concrete has heaps of calcium and shit which will chalk up under your paint. acid wash. no questions.

[Voltaire]

It's getting harder to deny it it seems. I'm not sure I can afford the change in wardrobe the new lifestyle demands.


Stop at the hair bun and manicured beard.

[Grumph]

no cunt. even fresh concrete has heaps of calcium and shit which will chalk up under your paint. acid wash. no questions.

Agreed - and don't use water base bloody paint. Either 2 pack or oil based - and be prepared to wait for it to dry too.

[Akzle]

Agreed - and don't use water base bloody paint. Either 2 pack or oil based - and be prepared to wait for it to dry too.

2 pak is what real men use. oil is old OLD technology. for OLD gits. :bleh:

[george formby]

I've done a commercial kitchen floor with 2 pack epoxy stylee paint. Most impressed I was, eventually. Perp is vital and application was difficult, it thickens very quickly, well, the stuff I used did.

When it had dried properly over a few days it was really tough. Withstood all the kitchen cleaners, oven cleaners, hot fat, fat chefs and dropped, pointy, heavy things. Slick as an eel when greasy or soapy, though. Add some nice silica sand to it.

Dunno how big the area is but decent quality lino is hard to beat, relatively easy to lay, warmer than paint and repairable in high traffic areas. Fixing damaged paint is a major, never quite works.

Plenty of good, second hand, lino offcuts are available and can be welded together.

Just a thought.

[husaberg]

Stage one.... looking at painted workshop floor.

anyone used this stuff, bunnings have it http://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/rocksolid/garage-floor-kits/polycuramine-garage-floor-coating-kit

If you want to paint it yourself just use dulux durapave and do add some sand.
http://www.dulux.co.nz/products/dulux-exterior-products/specialist/product-detail?product=14770
I would recommend getting some offcuts of Vinyl, easier on the legs and knees plus warmer.
You can have separate areas for welding grinding etc.

[Night Falcon]

whatever coating you slap on make sure you get the concrete surface prepped. Acid wash is best. If ya got dodgy knees a small bit of carpet makes it more comfy and it stops screws and stuff from bouncing into oblivion.....just don't use shag-pile :no:

[Swoop]

... we used the resene floor paint. the concrete we coated was probably laid in the early 70's.

2-pack is nice.
A basic workshop needs only resene "Lumbersider" paint for the floor though. Pro painters recommend it and we did a large workshop which has lots of thoroughfare on it. It lasted years!
For a home garage it would do at least 15 yrs.

Nuke the surface first and prep before painting, as always.

[granstar]

Always found a good slab of old carpet is good for the oil change area, and the Triumph parking area (er... same area), as it soaks up spills....leaks, and is easier on the knees when changing filters etc.
Just gotta watch it don't get set on fire when welding nearby, heh done that a few times.

[russd7]

2-pack is nice.
A basic workshop needs only resene "Lumbersider" paint for the floor though. Pro painters recommend it and we did a large workshop which has lots of thoroughfare on it. It lasted years!
For a home garage it would do at least 15 yrs.

Nuke the surface first and prep before painting, as always.

naaa lumbersider is cheap shit and i wouldn't use on floor to slippery, (i paint with it regularly), the resene 2pac that we used on the floor was not cheap but very effective, but as has been alluded to many times in this thread, Prep is the key, we had a big patch of badly oil stained concrete that i scrubbed a lot with grease and oil remover, i didn't get it all out but it hasn't lifted yet

[russd7]

Always found a good slab of old carpet is good for the oil change area, and the Triumph parking area (er... same area), as it soaks up spills....leaks, and is easier on the knees when changing filters etc.
Just gotta watch it don't get set on fire when welding nearby, heh done that a few times.

keeps the food clean for the dogs when dropped by drunken louts also

[Swoop]

It has just occurred to me that we have not had the excellent knowledge of Miss Cassina in this thread, offering her expertise on the subject.
Presumably it would involve concepts not envisioned by thinking human beings. Perhaps using turtle shells to collect drips of waste oil along with covering the floor with hemp?

[george formby]

Speaking of carpet, it's not black and white.



I think having a bike on a rug is a lovely thing.

Luckily I have a carpet fitting mate who is more than happy to drop off some uplift. Make sure you only get wool, it rots beautifully. Chuck a bit under the bike and off you are.

When it gets manky lay it over some wandering dew or wild ginger, kill the weeds, let it rot and boom, compost and worms.

Chuck a newly requisitioned bit under the bike.

Once anything goes through carpet enough to mess up the floor I replace the bit of carpet.

So, yeah. It's an optional luxury which helps look after your snazzy floor, keeps your knees warm, is fully disposable and biodegradable. It can also come in some lovely colours.

Your nuts don't bounce far on carpet, either. The difference it makes to the time spent under shelves and reaching under bikes is astonishing. "Oh, look, the bolts beside me knee. Astonishing".

[BMWST?]

Speaking of carpet, it's not black and white.



I think having a bike on a rug is a lovely thing.

Luckily I have a carpet fitting mate who is more than happy to drop off some uplift. Make sure you only get wool, it rots beautifully. Chuck a bit under the bike and off you are.

When it gets manky lay it over some wandering dew or wild ginger, kill the weeds, let it rot and boom, compost and worms.

Chuck a newly requisitioned bit under the bike.

Once anything goes through carpet enough to mess up the floor I replace the bit of carpet.

So, yeah. It's an optional luxury which helps look after your snazzy floor, keeps your knees warm, is fully disposable and biodegradable. It can also come in some lovely colours.

Your nuts don't bounce far on carpet, either. The difference it makes to the time spent under shelves and reaching under bikes is astonishing. "Oh, look, the bolts beside me knee. Astonishing".
And the latte cup doesnt break when you drop it on the carpet.

[GazzaH]

I must have exceptionally bouncy nuts.

[clint640]

I called up Altex in Tauranga & followed their recommendation, which was a 2 part sealer undercoat & a 2 part topcoat. Came up good & seems pretty durable, been down almost a year now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/clhandcock/rIMG_7644_zpssi00iz0a.jpg

The concrete was a couple of years old but was a good finish & really clean, Altex said just sand it, I've got a big random orbit sander so I gave it a buff with that. Made a mixer for the drill to blend the epoxy, rollered it on. Cost about $800 for the 7x9m & I have a bit left over for touch ups. The bikes do get parked on carpet though, a corner of the shed is partitioned & curtained off for toy storage to keep stuff tidy during dusty dirty goings on in the business end of the shed.

Water based paints will lift off under hot tyres. In my previous shed I used Dulux Aquatread which did that & it was getting pretty worn out in the high foot traffic areas too after 8 years. I didn't have the budget for epoxy at the time though & it was hugely nicer than bare concrete.

Cheers
Clint

[F5 Dave]

Well Clint, that looks real clean and I see you have a reasonable collection of hammers, and even seven spanners stored carefully out of harms way.

Bit short of bike posters or as when I posted a pic of my garage some chick mentioned; where are all the nudey pics?
I've since found some tasteful `fairing off` studio shots. I do like an exposed power valve or bulging polished expansion chamber.

[R650R]

I called up Altex in Tauranga & followed their recommendation, which was a 2 part sealer undercoat & a 2 part topcoat. Came up good & seems pretty durable, been down almost a year now.


The concrete was a couple of years old but was a good finish & really clean, Altex said just sand it, I've got a big random orbit sander so I gave it a buff with that. Made a mixer for the drill to blend the epoxy, rollered it on. Cost about $800 for the 7x9m & I have a bit left over for touch ups. The bikes do get parked on carpet though, a corner of the shed is partitioned & curtained off for toy storage to keep stuff tidy during dusty dirty goings on in the business end of the shed.

Water based paints will lift off under hot tyres. In my previous shed I used Dulux Aquatread which did that & it was getting pretty worn out in the high foot traffic areas too after 8 years. I didn't have the budget for epoxy at the time though & it was hugely nicer than bare concrete.

Cheers
Clint

Nice setup clint.

[george formby]

So which colour for the walls did you eventually go with, Clint?<_<

[clint640]

Well Clint, that looks real clean and I see you have a reasonable collection of hammers, and even seven spanners stored carefully out of harms way.

Bit short of bike posters or as when I posted a pic of my garage some chick mentioned; where are all the nudey pics?
I've since found some tasteful `fairing off` studio shots. I do like an exposed power valve or bulging polished expansion chamber.

That's only the small hammers ;) The spanners are the weird metric sizes that hardly ever get used. I do need a few more posters, a nice bit of expansion chamber would indeed set the place off nicely :innocent: although a lot more of the walls have been covered with tools & stuff since I took that pic.


So which colour for the walls did you eventually go with, Clint?<_<

All of them! :wings: The idea was that one end of the shed is team Yamaha blue for Rosie, the other end is KTM orange, plus a few other colours in between to blend it in. We lined it with the 12mm plywood when we moved in. Will do the yucky green cabinets in orange too sometime when I'm bored.

Cheers
Clint