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Bassmatt
19th May 2017, 12:24
Who uses them? Battery or wired? Hows the battery life?
Would you buy the same ones you have now again?
Looking for recommendations for my wife who gets cold and sore hands and wrists since her accident.

Shadowjack
20th May 2017, 15:32
Acquired some RST Heated Gloves last winter.
I use them for the 60km commute into town during winter, down to about -2. Below that temperature, there are sections of road that I have ice issues with and take the 4WD (for the external crumple zones).
The gloves are powered by 7.4 v lithium polymer batteries and have three temperature settings (55, 70, 85 degrees) - I've only ever used the lowest settings and even then, the gloves are pretty good without the battery assistance. On the lowest settings, I get about 3 hrs usage (which equates to about 4 trips into town). Don't need them for the return trip as it's (usually) a bit warmer. Recharge time from dead flat is 5 hrs(ish).
The advertising blurb says not to crush the fingers (which house the heating elements); that wind chill will affect the heat output; and that they are not designed to (oops...ah well, should have read that bit last year) be used in the wet.
Downside? They are thick and have diminished feel over less insulated gloves - goes with the territory, I guess. Beats not being able to move frozen fingers/hands.
Expensive? Reasonably, but probably about the same as having heated grips fitted, and they stay with you when you sell the bike.
Yes, I'd definitely buy them again.

nzspokes
20th May 2017, 16:32
This makes good stuff Im told. https://www.facebook.com/Phenix-Flaming-Hot-Heated-Motorcycle-Gear-571738242984574/

Blackbird
21st May 2017, 07:20
I have the Gerbing G3. The wiring harness runs between my jacket shell and liner and plugs in to an electrical connection coming out from under the seat. There is a small temperature controller clipped to my jacket. I suffer from cold hands and absolutely love them. Had them for 2 winters now and wouldn't be without them.

Here's a link to some photos and my installation (same bike as yours): http://geoffjames.blogspot.co.nz/2016/06/in-praise-of-warm-paws-tyre-update-and.html

mulletman
22nd May 2017, 16:06
I had gloves from these people ( http://www.heatedclothing4u.com/gerbinggyde-12v )mine were coreheat 12. Batt life was 1hr20 tops at highest setting which I thought was crap and told them so,
they agreed and sent me some new Lithium ones but I paid freight.

In the mean time I used the hard wired to bike battery connection , the heat barely kept up but you can use them in the rain..If my bike had handguards they may have been ok.

I never used the replacement batts but gave them to my sister when she was over and they are used
now for heating her vests either on her bike or when hunting.

Heat on the back of your hands is nice and I reckon they would be fine for a passenger as their hands
are more tucked in.

pete376403
22nd May 2017, 21:01
Ordered a pair of Epics from these guys today.https://www.zarkie.com.au/heated-gloves/battery-powered-gloves/

Hopefully they will arrive before the Brass (leaving 1st june). Also ordered the cig lighter socket charger so I can recharge at the site

rustys
23rd May 2017, 13:13
"Rain Offs" over normal gloves is the way to go.

Kendog
24th May 2017, 19:48
Ordered a pair of Epics from these guys today.https://www.zarkie.com.au/heated-gloves/battery-powered-gloves/

Hopefully they will arrive before the Brass (leaving 1st june). Also ordered the cig lighter socket charger so I can recharge at the site
I'm keen to hear how these go.
I hate cold hands.

pete376403
26th May 2017, 23:57
Gloves arrived today (Impressed, only 4 days from Australia). They are Chinese made (what isn't?) nice enough as gloves go, batteries fit into a pocket under the wrist. about three hours to charge, then fitted and tried on. A snug fit - using the supplied sizing chart I am a "large" -I wouldn't mind a wee bit more room inside but ok. They have a push button switch on the back, cycles through off low med high with appropriate colour indicator. Warm up really quickly with heat to the back of the hand and right down to the fingertips. Claimed battery life on high is two hours. It should be possible to find a power supply that can do 7 volts and run them from the bike battery but that means being attached to the bike with cables and so on.

caspernz
28th May 2017, 18:45
There's a difference between heated grips and heated gloves though. With hot grips only the inner part of the hand ends up being warm, so you can still get a wind chill happening on the outside, especially the fingertips unless you're running a barkbuster type of bar protector. I know that Blackbird fella uses heated gloves plugged into an accessory outlet on the bike, for serious mile munching in dubious weather.

Nothing wrong at all with using heated gloves or a vest, if that makes your ride more comfy :2thumbsup

Honest Andy
28th May 2017, 21:34
It should be possible to find a power supply that can do 7 volts and run them from the bike battery but that means being attached to the bike with cables and so on.
You could get away without the 7volt power supply by running the two gloves in series, that'll put 6 volts in each glove, as long as both gloves are at the same heat setting.

pete376403
28th May 2017, 23:06
Hmm that could work. What would be good would be power connectors like the Apple Macs used (magsafe) so they break away when pulled. I feel a project coming on...

Honest Andy
29th May 2017, 06:57
We'll help...
First you need to go on a shopping expedition at Jaycar and buy enough shit to fill up all the clear areas on the bench

pete376403
29th May 2017, 22:20
Explain this "clear area on the bench" thing. That hasn't happened in living memory.

Honest Andy
30th May 2017, 07:31
Explain this "clear area on the bench" thing. That hasn't happened in living memory.

Oh. Sometimes after a tremor the stuff on the bench sorta self-levels and you can cover it with a sheet...
But dig out the side covers from that fixer-upper first, they're good for collecting odd nuts and bolts, mixing epoxy etc

R650R
31st May 2017, 00:33
Tourmaster Snyrgy via Revzilla, there are two versions, get the ones I got, LEATHER. Gave them good snow seal when I got them and they have good rain gaiter cuffs on them.
Only use them in the coldest of cold as on there own the heavy leather construction is quite warm but good finge feel for controls though.
Yes I would buy them again.
Used them Friday night northbound from Napier over the Taupo rd at 8pm-930pm, outside temp was about 3 deg I think plus windchill excellent. For comparison my textile gear had winter lining in, one merino baselayer, one wool singlet, one t shift and one thin merino jersey, merino leggings and wool socks. Was equally warm across whole body.

MarkH
1st July 2017, 07:37
Gloves arrived today (Impressed, only 4 days from Australia). They are Chinese made (what isn't?) nice enough as gloves go, batteries fit into a pocket under the wrist. about three hours to charge, then fitted and tried on. A snug fit - using the supplied sizing chart I am a "large" -I wouldn't mind a wee bit more room inside but ok. They have a push button switch on the back, cycles through off low med high with appropriate colour indicator. Warm up really quickly with heat to the back of the hand and right down to the fingertips. Claimed battery life on high is two hours. It should be possible to find a power supply that can do 7 volts and run them from the bike battery but that means being attached to the bike with cables and so on.

You have had these for 5 weeks now, can you give us an update?
How good are they on low or medium?
How long are the batteries lasting in normal usage for you?

I'm considering these gloves for my ride to work which I do around 3 - 3:30am on weekdays. In winter it can be pretty cold in the Waikato at 3am and often foggy unless there is a good frost and it is too cold for fog. I have heated grips which really help a lot but gloves that heat the tops of my fingers would really boost the warmth. It takes me less than 30 minutes to get to work (35km from door to door) and I wouldn't need heated gloves for the ride home. If I could charge the batteries every weekend and get some heat in my hands each morning then that would be absolutely perfect for me!

mulletman
1st July 2017, 11:23
You have had these for 5 weeks now, can you give us an update?
How good are they on low or medium?
How long are the batteries lasting in normal usage for you?

I'm considering these gloves for my ride to work which I do around 3 - 3:30am on weekdays. In winter it can be pretty cold in the Waikato at 3am and often foggy unless there is a good frost and it is too cold for fog. I have heated grips which really help a lot but gloves that heat the tops of my fingers would really boost the warmth. It takes me less than 30 minutes to get to work (35km from door to door) and I wouldn't need heated gloves for the ride home. If I could charge the batteries every weekend and get some heat in my hands each morning then that would be absolutely perfect for me!

I have handguards for winter as well as heated grips and its ok maybe try them to.

Ive got these http://www.barkbusters.net/products/storm

pete376403
1st July 2017, 22:16
You have had these for 5 weeks now, can you give us an update?
How good are they on low or medium?
How long are the batteries lasting in normal usage for you?

I'm considering these gloves for my ride to work which I do around 3 - 3:30am on weekdays. In winter it can be pretty cold in the Waikato at 3am and often foggy unless there is a good frost and it is too cold for fog. I have heated grips which really help a lot but gloves that heat the tops of my fingers would really boost the warmth. It takes me less than 30 minutes to get to work (35km from door to door) and I wouldn't need heated gloves for the ride home. If I could charge the batteries every weekend and get some heat in my hands each morning then that would be absolutely perfect for me!

Sorry, the bike had a moment* while down south and sort of took precedence. Anyway I found the gloves worked well. Batteries lasted 2 1/2 hours on high, but mostly I had them on low, and upped the temps only as needed (eg in the snow on Dansey pass). The KLR has hand guards, plus Oxford heated grips so all in all my hands remained very comfortable. (now, about those toes...) There was a bit of rain and they didn't leak. Quite satisfied with the purchase. If I could find the correct sized connector I would make power outlets for each hand grip, so they could be plugged in directly with a cable, and some sort of breakaway plug.


*not long into the trip (Nelson) there was a bang and a lurch. Stopping to inspect didn't reveal anything and as all seemed to be working ok, carried on. Closer inspection once home, about 2300kms later, revealed a gearbox dog had broken off and been smacked into the crankcase by the conrod. Rod has a big graze on the front by the bigend, case has a small hole in the front. Motor and gearbox ran perfectly the entire trip.

MarkH
2nd July 2017, 06:57
I found the gloves worked well. Batteries lasted 2 1/2 hours on high, but mostly I had them on low, and upped the temps only as needed (eg in the snow on Dansey pass). The KLR has hand guards, plus Oxford heated grips so all in all my hands remained very comfortable. (now, about those toes...) There was a bit of rain and they didn't leak. Quite satisfied with the purchase. If I could find the correct sized connector I would make power outlets for each hand grip, so they could be plugged in directly with a cable, and some sort of breakaway plug.

Thanks for that info.

My DR650 has Oxford heated grips and Barkbusters Storm guards, my ST1300 has the Oxford heated grips but not the guards although the mirrors and bodywork do deflect some of the cold air. Last year was OK but the year before we had some quite heavy frosts, if we get frosts like that again it will be a bit cold at 3am on the bike. I don't see the point in being uncomfortable. I do ride all year round regardless of weather so I'm on the bike each weekday morning regardless of rain, frost or fog.

Looking at the accessories I see that they have spare batteries for sale and also a 12v charger for them - it would be easily possible to run the heat continuously if needed. I'm not a fan of being wired to the bike, that would be a nuisance compared to battery powered IMO.

jellywrestler
2nd July 2017, 14:12
You could get away without the 7volt power supply by running the two gloves in series, that'll put 6 volts in each glove, as long as both gloves are at the same heat setting.

yip and a real good way to fuck them, supplying under voltage increases the current drawn and they are likely designed to be minimum wire size to handle the correct voltage, 6 volts versus 7 is 14% overload although in saying that a good charging system will be around 13.8 volts anyway, what wattage are they as depending on that you'll need to apply the correct size feed cable, or more voltage drop and here we go again

Honest Andy
2nd July 2017, 14:51
yip and a real good way to fuck them, supplying under voltage increases the current drawn and they are likely designed to be minimum wire size to handle the correct voltage, 6 volts versus 7 is 14% overload although in saying that a good charging system will be around 13.8 volts anyway, what wattage are they as depending on that you'll need to apply the correct size feed cable, or more voltage drop and here we go again

Nah, sorry mate. You're muddling voltage with resistance.
Ohms Law. Look it up. Have you still got your old Jennison or ET&P? You'll find it in the early easy chapters on DC circuits...

Poor old Cass has trouble with this too...

jellywrestler
2nd July 2017, 15:34
oops, using the wrong calc!

Honest Andy
2nd July 2017, 16:11
:niceone:
..............

pete376403
2nd July 2017, 19:06
Thanks for that info.

My DR650 has Oxford heated grips and Barkbusters Storm guards, my ST1300 has the Oxford heated grips but not the guards although the mirrors and bodywork do deflect some of the cold air. Last year was OK but the year before we had some quite heavy frosts, if we get frosts like that again it will be a bit cold at 3am on the bike. I don't see the point in being uncomfortable. I do ride all year round regardless of weather so I'm on the bike each weekday morning regardless of rain, frost or fog.

Looking at the accessories I see that they have spare batteries for sale and also a 12v charger for them - it would be easily possible to run the heat continuously if needed. I'm not a fan of being wired to the bike, that would be a nuisance compared to battery powered IMO.

The batteries need to be unplugged from the glove to connect to the charger. I bought the 12 v charger with the gloves and have a cig lighter socket on the bike to plug it into. I suppose a second pair of batteris could be on charge while the first set are in use.

SuperMac
3rd July 2017, 06:23
"Rain Offs" over normal gloves is the way to go.

[Panto]"On no it isn't!"[/]

Youre confusing keeping heat in, which you can't win forever, with adding heat to replace that lost.

I thunk the op mentioned a particular injury which needed to be kept warm.

lenzod3
7th July 2017, 19:46
I also have a pair of Tourmaster Snyrgy. These gloves are warm and comfortable.

MarkH
18th July 2017, 13:00
My Zarkie Epic 2.0 gloves should arrive this week. I decided to just order the gloves and see how it goes, I'll decide later if I need a 12V charger or spare battery.
Now we will probably have a very mild winter and I wont need the heated gloves.