Gang Protocol

[old slider]

Whats the accepted rules in NZ by gangs or motorcycle clubs for wearing badges, patches etc?

I am interested in how club badges/patches etc are accepted on jackets, I know overseas the rocker type badges are usually under the chapters or club names etc.

Are rocker type badges ok to place under club badges or chapter badges etc here in NZ? or is this strictly for the Outlaw type motorcycle clubs?

The HOG members I have seen appear to have their Chapter badges usually up high on there back, then their HOG members badge, pins on the front etc and rocker patches on the sides, I have heard this was done with an understanding or acceptance from the other motorcycle clubs.

[caseye]

Whats the accepted rules in NZ by gangs or motorcycle clubs for wearing badges, patches etc?

I am interested in how club badges/patches etc are accepted on jackets, I know overseas the rocker type badges are usually under the chapters or club names etc.

Are rocker type badges ok to place under club badges or chapter badges etc here in NZ? or is this strictly for the Outlaw type motorcycle clubs?

The HOG members I have seen appear to have their Chapter badges usually up high on there back, then their HOG members badge, pins on the front etc and rocker patches on the sides, I have heard this was done with an understanding or acceptance from the other motorcycle clubs.

Put them where you want and stop worrying about any sort of gang! They dont know their arse from their face anyhows.

[Madness]

Hurry, only 935pcs remaining!

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Are rocker type badges ok to place under club badges or chapter badges etc here in NZ? or is this strictly for the Outlaw type motorcycle clubs?

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You don't want to be running rocker patches.

[98tls]

Whats the accepted rules in NZ by gangs or motorcycle clubs for wearing badges, patches etc?

I am interested in how club badges/patches etc are accepted on jackets, I know overseas the rocker type badges are usually under the chapters or club names etc.

Are rocker type badges ok to place under club badges or chapter badges etc here in NZ? or is this strictly for the Outlaw type motorcycle clubs?

The HOG members I have seen appear to have their Chapter badges usually up high on there back, then their HOG members badge, pins on the front etc and rocker patches on the sides, I have heard this was done with an understanding or acceptance from the other motorcycle clubs.

Just checked and as i thought the date is indeed 27/6/2017.

[Laava]

Does it depend on how many and what type of heinous crimes you have commited with extra allowances for time served...

[Jeff Sichoe]

Yes, I too want to look like a degenerate, abusing fuckhead. What special rules must I follow so I look the part?

[granstar]

Wear what you like wherever, they are just to show their loyalty to a group, the cops love em for easy identity as associated with a Motorcycle Club, Gang, or those just trying to give up smoking.

[Mike.Gayner]

LOL it still tickles me that "club" riders want to wear rockers. Make 'em feel all "Sons of Anarchy"-like I suppose.

A rocker is just a dick-head badge.

[T.W.R]

Just checked and as i thought the date is indeed 27/6/2017.

Trust you to be living a day into the future :bleh:




A rocker is just a dick-head badge.

:laugh: right :clap: It's probably the biggest & fastest growing motorcycle affiliation the world had seen, it was at full strength when the Hells Angels were still infants & true to their beginnings :msn-wink:

[Autech]

Yes, I too want to look like a degenerate, abusing fuckhead. What special rules must I follow so I look the part?

You must have a German helmet.
You must have a loud Harley (the louder the better), if it's loud enough people might think it's actually fast.
You must ride at approx 30kms over the speed limit everywhere you go (tapped out on open road) so people know you are bad arse and the cops wont touch you.
You must also filter at 30kms faster than all the car drivers so they know you have important places to go to in a hurry, and so they are extra certain you don't give a fuck.
Finally, any sport bike rider that passes you on a twisty road must be overtaken immediately when you find the straight long enough (downhill will help). You must then hit the proceeding corners so fast that he's impressed enough to know that you might have been a top racer if only your parents hadn't kicked you out for being a little cunt when you were 13.

[old slider]

Bwahaha, pretty mild response from KBs

I see so many different groups with affiliations to someone or something being shown on their jackets as they ride around that I wondered if they outnumber those with out affiliation to anything.

Yes, I have become a member of HOG international for varying reasons and have just joined the Central Districts Harley group.
I quite like the idea of people with an interest in similar bikes and who hold regular social events etc, only time will tell if I continue.

Not sure if I will be placing badges etc all over my expensive jacket/s one leather, one textile, again for varying reasons, like warm or cold WX, but I do own a denim vest that the previous owner had put his HOG (Harley Owners Group) badge and his membership badges etc on. I don't wear it but have just received in the mail some more badges, "one is a rocker" so hence the question, I remembered from about 50 plus years ago something about protocols with insignia.

Mind you I also have badges/patches from our legendary John Britten and other associated motor sports sitting in my draw as well.
We see bike stuff everywhere on shirts, hats and so on, seems to be plenty of people supporting a racer, a team or a group..

[Honest Andy]

Yeah stick em on a vest, (we used to call them a 'wankers jacket') then you can show it off or hide it as appropriate...
I used to have one once, when I belonged to a club that liked that sort of thing. Dunno quite where I left it...

[jasonu]

Whats the accepted rules in NZ by gangs or motorcycle clubs for wearing badges, patches etc?

I am interested in how club badges/patches etc are accepted on jackets, I know overseas the rocker type badges are usually under the chapters or club names etc.

Are rocker type badges ok to place under club badges or chapter badges etc here in NZ? or is this strictly for the Outlaw type motorcycle clubs?

The HOG members I have seen appear to have their Chapter badges usually up high on there back, then their HOG members badge, pins on the front etc and rocker patches on the sides, I have heard this was done with an understanding or acceptance from the other motorcycle clubs.

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Lol, I wasn't asking about members sexual preference bro.

[pritch]

To paraphrase Peter Sellers, rockers are off love.

A few years back the AGM of Ulysses Australia was to be held in Queensland. The local gangs told Ulysses that they would take severe exception to back patches. Subsequent discussions lead to an agreement that a Ulysses patch would be accepted as long as there was no rocker.

You'd have to be off yer rocker to wear one. :whistle:

[Crasherfromwayback]

You'd have to be off yer rocker to wear one. :whistle:

Just don't go there. A while ago now, a group here in Welly got all gangster wanne be like, and wore rocker patches. When one of the local 1%ers paid their *pres* a wee visit, telling him the error of their ways, the patches disappeared over night. Whether you like it or not...those cunts do have to earn that right.

[sidecar bob]

Having a google of rocker patches, there seems to be a hard ass gang called " your text here"

[old slider]

Thanks guys,

I was pretty sure there was some code or unwritten law regarding how clubs like Ulysses, HOGs etc wore insignia.

So I presume club names or affiliations to a certain group is acceptable, so long as the rocker type patches are not displayed underneath them, unless of course you are a member of some outlaw type of club.

[T.W.R]

The thing that's grabbed me in this thread was Madness's post :lol: buying your patch on-line......wasn't that long ago that propects used to have to bust their balls to earn their patch and everything was done in house there'd be some one in the shadows who's job it was to make the patch :pinch:

[old slider]

The thing that's grabbed me in this thread was Madness's post :lol: buying your patch on-line......wasn't that long ago that propects used to have to bust their balls to earn their patch and everything was done in house there'd be some one in the shadows who's job it was to make the patch :pinch:


Like many things.

Once upon a time it took at least 7 years of training and a lot of hard work, blood, sweat and tears to obtain your Blackbelt or shodan, now you can get given one after a year or so of attending classes and some coin.

Thankfully some traditional arts like Kyokushin have retained their prerequisites for each student to progress through the grades.

[T.W.R]

Like many things.

Once upon a time it took at least 7 years of training and a lot of hard work, blood, sweat and tears to obtain your Blackbelt or shodan, now you can get given one after a year or so of attending classes and some coin.

Thankfully some traditional arts like Kyokushin have retained their prerequisites for each student to progress through the grades.

I know some of them the prospects weren't even allowed their arse on a harley till they'd earnt their patch, then it was usually a hot as buggery bitsa they'd have to do their time on

[Katman]

The thing that's grabbed me in this thread was Madness's post :lol: buying your patch on-line......wasn't that long ago that propects used to have to bust their balls to earn their patch and everything was done in house there'd be some one in the shadows who's job it was to make the patch :pinch:

Don't worry, I'm sure anyone caught wearing an online purchased patch would get their balls well and truly busted.

[pritch]

Seen a few of these hereabout. :whistle:

[T.W.R]

Don't worry, I'm sure anyone caught wearing an online purchased patch would get their balls well and truly busted.

:lol: I reckon

[Crasherfromwayback]

Don't worry, I'm sure anyone caught wearing an online purchased patch would get their balls well and truly busted.

Absofuckinglutely. I've dealt with many hard cunts over the years. So many wanna be *hard cunts* here, on KB, want to come across as tough and hard..but they'd fucking shit themselves if fronted by the real deal. You don't know their worlds. Stick to what you know.

[sidecar bob]

Can someone define the parameters of "hard" please?

[Voltaire]

Can someone define the parameters of "hard" please?

I find filling in these hard.

https://www.mytax.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/ir3-form.png

Had to Google rocker patch as I thought it was for fixing damaged car parts....

[Honest Andy]

I find filling in these hard.

https://www.mytax.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/ir3-form.png

I think the term was "hard cunts"...

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[FlangMasterJ]

Yes, I too want to look like a degenerate, abusing fuckhead. What special rules must I follow so I look the part?

http://i.imgur.com/vVkoPPU.gif

[sidecar bob]

Had to Google rocker patch as I thought it was for fixing damaged car parts....

I recommend installing a good used rocker. The amount saved by patching one isn't worth the likelihood of it breaking again & having your valve not opening. Especially if you are planning a long ride.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Can someone define the parameters of "hard" please?

Someone 5th or 6th Dan (or better), built like a machine, that could dismember you with his bare hands if he so decided. That sort of Cunt. Know plenty of them. Some extremely pleasant, some not so. Some I call friends, some would never be.

[old slider]

Someone 5th or 6th Dan (or better), built like a machine, that could dismember you with his bare hands if he so decided. That sort of Cunt. Know plenty of them. Some extremely pleasant, some not so. Some I call friends, some would never be.

Sounds like you may know my mate Kev from the Waikato

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sounds like you may know my mate Kev from the Waikato

Hahahaha...if he's ever brought Harley's or anything else from WMCC, maybe! But in my 20 years there, I met some real characters! And some I hope to never see again...

[RDJ]

Seen a few of these hereabout. :whistle:

Heh. Just, heh. (TM Instapundit).

[RDJ]

This thread reminded me, back in the 70s we had our own motorcycle bunch (never got big enough to be a gang - there were only four of us and being impoverished students the worst we scofflaws would do was pick flowers from public gardens to give to the girls who would occasionally deign to pillion...). Then after 'Stone' came out - I think 'twas 75 - we had four vests made complete with rockers at - for those days - enormous, nay, yuuuge expense. Because.

Believe it or not, in those days there was no Internet (I know huh?) and where we lived there were no actual gangs around to tell us what was etiquette and what was not. We rode with those vests on weekends for a couple of years until we went our separate ways. No way would that vest fit me these days anyway haha. And now? a gang of one isn't really a gang; two of the four are dead (not by bike crashes) and the third is retired in Thailand. Ah, nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

I do remember reading / hearing of difficulties that HOG groups in occasionally encountered in parts of metro Asia where the official HOG patch was still seen as too close to a rocker, in the 00's. And there was a lot of publicity at the time, about the stand-off between Ulysses and the gangs in Oz; as I recall there were significant threats made against the bodily integrity of outsider rocker-wearers.

Google the wayback machine - from 2005:
"A couple of Ulysses bike group were hauled into the Rebels MC to have things clearly explained to them!
...Expectations of a quiet face to face meeting with Alex and a few others was quickly dispelled as we walked into a hall full of Rebels all seated awaiting our arrival.
...Three seats were already allocated for us facing Alex who was seated with six of his lieutenants, three either side, with the remaining 40 – 50 members behind us. Vic Lesslie and I have been to many meetings in our life for a multitude of reasons and this is the one we will both never ever forget.
...We have been told that the actions and directions taken in Canberra regarding Ulysses members not to wear rockers is commendable and the right decision... Another statement made that was also taken note of was a scenario that if three Ulysses Club members were pulled over on the road because one was wearing rockers then all three will be dealt with in the same manner.
...All members should be aware of this when riding with any other member foolhardy enough to ride with rockers on their back.

And more recently
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/nomads-bikie-gang-offended-by-social-patch/news-story/6acd5a805c7f4329819458fd5c490f89

My non-wet-weather leather riding jacket has a big V8 bike patch on the back which looks nothing like club colors, it's just a V8 bike in profile with no club name - but I had to take it off once I was on the grounds of Harrah's Laughlin couple of years ago. Seems like anything colorful there is seen as 'club colors' after the shootout in the casino.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2002/04/27/casino-fight-between-motorcycle-gangs-leaves-three-dead.html
Harrah's got successfully sued later
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2010/nov/04/harrahs-laughlin-found-liable-fatal-2002-casino-br/

[nzspokes]

Not being one the is experienced with gang folk, what are rockers?

[Mike.Gayner]

Not being one the is experienced with gang folk, what are rockers?

Rockers are the top and bottom part-circles used on the back of a vest/jacket. Two types of people use rockers: people in gangs, and people who inexplicably want to appear to be in a gang in their spare time.

Rockers are a very easy way to quickly identify a fuckwit, because they are exclusively worn by fuckwits. Without exception.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Rockers are a very easy way to quickly identify a fuckwit, because they are exclusively worn by fuckwits. Without exception.

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Nah. I know a fair few exceptions to that rule. But to each their own.

[jasonu]

Someone 5th or 6th Dan (or better), built like a machine, that could dismember you with his bare hands if he so decided. That sort of Cunt. Know plenty of them. Some extremely pleasant, some not so. Some I call friends, some would never be.

Why would you bother (not saying you do) hanging around dicks like that? It's not like anything good could come out of it and there is a fair chance that something bad could.

[jasonu]

This thread reminded me, back in the 70s we had our own motorcycle bunch (never got big enough to be a gang - there were only four of us and being impoverished students the worst we scofflaws would do was pick flowers from public gardens to give to the girls who would occasionally deign to pillion...).

You lot might have been the inspiration for this...

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[jellywrestler]

The HOG members I have seen appear to have their Chapter badges usually up high on there back, then their HOG members badge, pins on the front etc and rocker patches on the sides, I have heard this was done with an understanding or acceptance from the other motorcycle clubs.

the HOG club is a business, not a club, you pay a yearly fee, or if you want to be a life member, pay ten years worth. never heard of any'Club' doing that

[rastuscat]

Patriots MC wears regalia, but it doesn't include rockers. It's all about former military service.

[R650R]

Back in 2011 we had some guy in the bay who operated tourist rides on his harley. Unfortunately for him some young wannabee who coul;dnt read mistook his emblem/logo/patch for gang colours/rockers.
Think the young wannabee came off second best in the end....
Hell I think twice about where i wear my SOA shirt although that seems widely accpeted and practiced. Missus has couple of SOA dresses/skirt things and says she gets afew look stopping to fuel the car up. "Jesus honey /i told you that was bedroom wear!" lol.....

[Akzle]

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Rockers are a very easy way to quickly identify a fuckwit, because they are exclusively worn by fuckwits. Without exception.
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:clap:
... must spread...
i have rockers on the back of my corduroy sweater... but no-one can see them when i'm driving my phat sweet magna.

[old slider]

the HOG club is a business, not a club, you pay a yearly fee, or if you want to be a life member, pay ten years worth. never heard of any'Club' doing that


Could be right Jellywrestler, I paid fees to a club here that allows drinking and games, has badges etc, I was even allowed to take the missus up there in later years, no way could I in the 70s-80s it was working men only.

That HOG club is massive, millions of members worldwide, I received another rocker patch and even the pin is rocker shaped

331498

[sidecar bob]

Someone 5th or 6th Dan (or better), built like a machine, that could dismember you with his bare hands if he so decided. That sort of Cunt. Know plenty of them. Some extremely pleasant, some not so. Some I call friends, some would never be.

Sounds like a fun & rewarding way to spend ones life.

[RDJ]

You lot might have been the inspiration for this...

https://www.google.com/search?q=wild+hogs+cast&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigk5_J4N_UAhVG6GMKHXYiBVAQ_AUICigB&biw=1024&bih=691#imgrc=daKrGLuZeAocKM:


So royalties then? just make it out to 'Cash' thanks.

But first, subtract ~30 years aging from yr script...

[RDJ]

Hell I think twice about where i wear my SOA shirt although that seems widely accpeted and practiced.

I like my 'Sons of Arthritis - Ibuprofen Chapter' T-shirt...

[Mike.Gayner]

the HOG club is a business, not a club, you pay a yearly fee, or if you want to be a life member, pay ten years worth. never heard of any'Club' doing that

You've never heard of a club with membership dues? Honestly I can't think of a single credible club that DOESN'T charge dues. Citizens clubs, sports clubs, every club I can think of charges a due, it's how the club operates.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sounds like a fun & rewarding way to spend ones life.

Well, some would say wasting your life away doing fuck all would be the same. But you know...look into the way of a true Karate expert. They live by some pretty cool life values. Just because some of them are also 1%ers...doesn't mean you're a better person than them because you're not into it. Seems to me...you need to take your blinkers off at times. Not everyone thinks your way of life is where it's at either. Broaden your horizons. Dare to think outside of your wee cube.

[jellywrestler]

You've never heard of a club with membership dues? Honestly I can't think of a single credible club that DOESN'T charge dues. Citizens clubs, sports clubs, every club I can think of charges a due, it's how the club operates.

not the dues, the life member buy in ya chimp

[jellywrestler]

Well, some would say wasting your life away doing fuck all would be the same. But you know...look into the way of a true Karate expert.

aren't they all Gay like Bruce Lee? after all with movies like 'enter the Dragon' and 'Fist of Fury' it sounds like it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

aren't they all Gay like Bruce Lee? after all with movies like 'enter the Dragon' and 'Fist of Fury' it sounds like it.

Hahaha...yeah...they all sound a bit that way. But, you wouldn't want to ask certain people if they're gay mate. Because when you fart, you'd whistle.

[Voltaire]

Sounds like a fun & rewarding way to spend ones life.

Suffering from PHD ( Post Holiday Depression)

Had some sort of epiphany in the last few weeks that there is more to life that the daily drudge?:msn-wink:

[old slider]

aren't they all Gay like Bruce Lee? after all with movies like 'enter the Dragon' and 'Fist of Fury' it sounds like it.


Careful Chuck Norris is watching you.


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[RDJ]

You've never heard of a club with membership dues? Honestly I can't think of a single credible club that DOESN'T charge dues. Citizens clubs, sports clubs, every club I can think of charges a due, it's how the club operates.

Here's two -

The Apathy Club at Uni (no dues; also, we never met)
The Mile High Club

[pritch]

You've never heard of a club with membership dues? Honestly I can't think of a single credible club that DOESN'T charge dues. Citizens clubs, sports clubs, every club I can think of charges a due, it's how the club operates.

Your comprehension skills failed you there. Apart from that, locally there is a club which has runs twice most weeks, no fees, no attitude. The "clubrooms" consist of a carpark on top of a hill. For as long as people want it, it'll work.

[Mike.Gayner]

Your comprehension skills failed you there. Apart from that, locally there is a club which has runs twice most weeks, no fees, no attitude. The "clubrooms" consist of a carpark on top of a hill. For as long as people want it, it'll work.

I used the phrase "credible club" as to exclude general meetings of like-minded people, which doesn't really constitute a club. Perhaps I should have used the word "incorporated" or something. The general point I was making is that it's incredibly ordinary for a club to charge dues, and MANY clubs offer the ability to pay lifetime dues. To claim that the HOG is not a legitimate club because they demand dues is absurd.

[Owl]

Someone 5th or 6th Dan (or better), built like a machine, that could dismember you with his bare hands if he so decided. That sort of Cunt.

You mean like Steven Seagal?:eek:

[Crasherfromwayback]

You mean like Steven Seagal?:eek:

Nah. He beats chicks up.

[JimO]

You mean like Steven Seagal?:eek:
perhaps 30 years ago

[old slider]

perhaps 30 years ago


A lot of people have underestimated Aikido

[T.W.R]

You do realise that any practitioner of any martial art particularly graded blackbelts will not use it in agression nor in a self defence manor because of the legal ramifications ie: use of deadly force etc

A real tough & deadly prick is Marc "The Animal" MacYoung :yes: he woke up to his actions as a younger person but in his prime made ones like chopper reed look like sunday school kids

[scumdog]

Seen a few of these hereabout. :whistle:


Should be able to sell a shitload around here!:lol:

[old slider]

You do realise that any practitioner of any martial art particularly graded blackbelts will not use it in agression nor in a self defence manor because of the legal ramifications ie: use of deadly force etc

A real tough & deadly prick is Marc "The Animal" MacYoung :yes: he woke up to his actions as a younger person but in his prime made ones like chopper reed look like sunday school kids


The Yudansha from various arts that I know can most times verbally diffuse a situation when it involves themselves without injurying anyone.

Self defence is just that, if facing serious threat of harm they do not need to be overly aggressive, but effective.

I remember one very loud and obnoxious chap being suddenly folded over and being assisted from a function gasping for air, the security came rushing over only to be told he is ok, just having an asthma attack as the Kyokushin Sandan continued assisting him outside. lol

[T.W.R]

The Yudansha from various arts that I know can most times verbally diffuse a situation when it involves themselves without injurying anyone.

Self defence is just that, if facing serious threat of harm they do not need to be overly aggressive, but effective.

I remember one very loud and obnoxious chap being suddenly folded over and being assisted from a function gasping for air, the security came rushing over only to be told he is ok, just having an asthma attack as the Kyokushin Sandan continued assisting him outside. lol

Yeah but if someone uses their martial art in that sort of manor and something happens to the recipient it can get messy if charges are laid etc self defence or not.
At high school we had a bloke who was pretty well up the ranks and being a teenager would attempt to use bits n pieces of what he'd learnt on groups of us, inadvertently did hurt someone rather badly and in recourse at the time got a real pasting from some of us plus there were the official events that caused dramas for him & his parents too......he didn't have the maturity or respect for his chosen discipline. He now has one of the largest & more successful dojos operating in ChCh.
A good mate is also well versed in the martial arts and worked as a doorman at nightclubs in London for a few years and not once had to use his abilities to defuse situations because he knew what the ramifications could be if things turned ugly.

It's like Marc "the animal" even though he's gone a bit too namby mamby PC these days, he stepped back from the ultra violent lifestyle of the LA gang wars to realising its better to defuse a situation verbally if possible before going ape-shit on someones arse.

[old slider]

Yeah but if someone uses their martial art in that sort of manor and something happens to the recipient it can get messy if charges are laid etc self defence or not.
At high school we had a bloke who was pretty well up the ranks and being a teenager would attempt to use bits n pieces of what he'd learnt on groups of us, inadvertently did hurt someone rather badly and in recourse at the time got a real pasting from some of us plus there were the official events that caused dramas for him & his parents too......he didn't have the maturity or respect for his chosen discipline. He now has one of the largest & more successful dojos operating in ChCh.
A good mate is also well versed in the martial arts and worked as a doorman at nightclubs in London for a few years and not once had to use his abilities to defuse situations because he knew what the ramifications could be if things turned ugly.

It's like Marc "the animal" even though he's gone a bit too namby mamby PC these days, he stepped back from the ultra violent lifestyle of the LA gang wars to realising its better to defuse a situation verbally if possible before going ape-shit on someones arse.


I most probably know the chap your talking about in CHCH.

Yes I agree, even being a bouncer in NZ back in the 70s was no walk in the park, I was in England (mainly Leicestershire area ) in the early 70s, worst experience was Darts being thrown.

Correct about verbally diffusing problems, amazing how easy it can be sometimes.

[T.W.R]

I most probably know the chap your talking about in CHCH.

Yes I agree, even being a bouncer in NZ back in the 70s was no walk in the park, I was in England (mainly Leicestershire area ) in the early 70s, worst experience was Darts being thrown.

Correct about verbally diffusing problems, amazing how easy it can be sometimes.

His dojo used to be on Barbadoes st near Ferry rd before the quakes happened...not sure where he relocated to, his brother Dean had a beautiful little Aermacchi 350 it was like a piece of rolling art.

:lol: when i was flatting if we had a bit of rev up and some tried going noddies we'd throw darts at them to wake them up...was all good fun till some one got themselves a dart gun & started using that :doh:

[old slider]

His dojo used to be on Barbadoes st near Ferry rd before the quakes happened...not sure where he relocated to, his brother Dean had a beautiful little Aermacchi 350 it was like a piece of rolling art.

:lol: when i was flatting if we had a bit of rev up and some tried going noddies we'd throw darts at them to wake them up...was all good fun till some one got themselves a dart gun & started using that :doh:


Hanshi Renzie had Seido Karate. actually Mark W had his kyokushin Dojo in Barbadoes street as well. The one guy I havnt mentioned is Karl V. he is one tough dude who was once part of our organization, Not too many people would muck about with him, lol. His boy is doing really well competing in Judo at the moment.


My youngest boy fought one of the CHCH Seido boys in CHCH a few years back at a NZ Nationals tournament.

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[scumdog]

It's like Marc "the animal" even though he's gone a bit too namby mamby PC these days, he stepped back from the ultra violent lifestyle of the LA gang wars to realising its better to defuse a situation verbally if possible before going ape-shit on someones arse.

Sums up my philosophy these days, verbal before physical.:niceone:

[T.W.R]

Sums up my philosophy these days, verbal before physical.:niceone:

:msn-wink: I've heard a bit of what you used to get up to before wearing :Police: & anyone here knew you :yes:

[Cosmik de Bris]

Sums up my philosophy these days, verbal before physical.:niceone:

There used to be a big black (african american) bouncer at the Blues Bar in Christchurch in the early 90's. His name was Larry and I think he played Basketball for the Canterbury team. He used to take people that were causing trouble aside and chat to them, there was no problem after that. He even escorted one guy off the premises and down the street a wee way while talking to him and then let him back in.

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[Shadowjack]

Larry Hubbard, if it's the same person. Yes, large bloke. Had occasion, as a much, much younger man, to take the court against him - until then I'd never experienced what a truly religious experience it was to get dunked on with such authority.

[PrincessBandit]

a patch for pussies?

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[RDJ]

That'll be fine I reckon, doesn't have a rocker...