Waterview Tunnel Opening

[cods4]

There's a rumour going round in the construction industry that Auckland's Waterview Tunnel will be opening this weekend.
It is expected to be Opening on Saturday night/Sunday morning.

If you are in the area and want to be one of the first through then I'd head there around 6am on Sunday morning because that is normally when the night time motorway closures have to end.

I could be off the mark here and I don't want to be responsible for disappointing anyone so do your own research if you are thinking of checking it out. (I'll be looking for any notifications of closures on the nor western and south western motorways around the area)

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[Akzle]

Be the first to pop a mean mono g
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...all. the. way.

[buggerit]

Checked it out when they were close to busting threw the

second tunnel, awsome machine

[AllanB]

Rest assured 3/4 of NZ does-not-give-a-shit. ;)

[JimO]

Rest assured 3/4 of NZ does-not-give-a-shit. ;)9/10 i would say

[nzspokes]

9/10 i would say

You should. Picture this, CBR1000rr at full revs in first blasting through the tunnel. :shifty:

Not that I would do such a thing.......:confused:

[RDJ]

9/10 i would say

98.7% imo...

[nzspokes]

Not open......

[Akzle]

99.4% . i asked.

[FJRider]

99.4% . i asked.

Only 10 people still talk to you ... one is your mother.

Statistic's ... can prove anything you want proved ... or not.

[FJRider]

You should. Picture this, CBR1000rr at full revs in first blasting through the tunnel. :shifty:

Not that I would do such a thing.......:confused:

It's a honda ... hardly spectacular ... :bleh:

[YellowDog]

I have been invited to go on an organized walk through it, by 3 different people.
All GREEN PARTY voters :gob:

I thanked them kindly (or at least words to that effect) :lol:

[Moise]

Can't wait. I only ever visit Westside when I absolutely have to, so what use is the tunnel?

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[nerrrd]

Lucky they kept it quiet :lol: guess the geniuses at NZTA have never heard of 'the media' (even front page on the printed Herald this morning).

Anyway isn't the whole idea of it that now you can get through Aucks going north or south without having to go into the CBD? All you Auckland bashers should be happy.

Oh and you're welcome for all that earthquake money you got from the rest of the country (including Auckland) guy in Christchurch.

[YellowDog]

Can't wait. I only ever visit Westside when I absolutely have to, so what use is the tunnel?

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If you are North, South, East, or West of Auckland, the tunnel will be highly beneficial. With all those North & WEst using it, instead of SH1, the amount of traffic that will be taken off SH1 will be huge, so it is a win-win for all :yes:

[Honest Andy]

Yep, it'll be chock-a-block in no time :niceone::facepalm:

[Moise]

If you are North, South, East, or West of Auckland, the tunnel will be highly beneficial. With all those North & WEst using it, instead of SH1, the amount of traffic that will be taken off SH1 will be huge, so it is a win-win for all :yes:
Maybe. It's much further than SH1, plus who knows how clogged the 2-lane parts of the southwestern will become now the tunnel is open.

If you are travelling from outside Auckland, don't assume it will be quicker and check Google maps before you reach the junctions.

We just did a half hour round trip from home (Onehunga) to the Patiki Rd junction. The tunnel was fine, but there are new 80 km/h zones which no doubt will raise lots if revenue in the next few weeks.

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[Maha]

The irony is that by the time these 'new improvements' are made to ease congestion and make driving in Auckland a better experience, there is need for more 'new improvements' to ease congestion and make driving in Auckland a better experience.

''driving in Auckland a better experience'' :killingme

[YellowDog]

Maybe. It's much further than SH1, plus who knows how clogged the 2-lane parts of the southwestern will become now the tunnel is open.

If you are travelling from outside Auckland, don't assume it will be quicker and check Google maps before you reach the junctions.

We just did a half hour round trip from home (Onehunga) to the Patiki Rd junction. The tunnel was fine, but there are new 80 km/h zones which no doubt will raise lots if revenue in the next few weeks.

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The 80Kph thing has been raising revenue, around there, for a long time now. Cars clogging up the tunnel will mean that they are not clogging up SH1. Lots of options for the tunnel. Upper Harbour Drive to SH16, means you avoid the harbour bridge. I suspect and hope that there will be lots of benefits for all motorway users. Time will tell though. WOT NO TOLL :banana:

[Moise]

The 80Kph thing has been raising revenue, around there, for a long time now. Cars clogging up the tunnel will mean that they are not clogging up SH1. Lots of options for the tunnel. Upper Harbour Drive to SH16, means you avoid the harbour bridge. I suspect and hope that there will be lots of benefits for all motorway users. Time will tell though. WOT NO TOLL :banana:
They now have an 80 limit from the south end of the tunnels to somewhere around Onehunga. I expect most of them will go back to 100 in time, but watch the variable limits in the tunnels.

One plus for me is it will be much quicker to get out west for a ride at the weekends.

[Akzle]

. The tunnel was fine, but there are new 80 km/h zones which no doubt will raise lots if revenue in the next few weeks.

SAFETY nigga. those fuckers will no doubt raise lots of SAFETY in the next few weeks.




or.. vote ax

[AllanB]

The irony is that by the time these 'new improvements' are made to ease congestion and make driving in Auckland a better experience, there is need for more 'new improvements' to ease congestion and make driving in Auckland a better experience.

''driving in Auckland a better experience'' :killingme

That's the truth of it. The suburb I grew up in in CHCH had plans for a northern route - several times - this I remember over 40 years back. Houses were even purchased a couple blocks away at one stage. I believe there is now money budgeted for it in a few years - massive amounts of money (and that won;t be enough).

If that shit was pushed through 40 years ago ...

Aucklands fucked - expansion with no concern for the future.

Wellington - where the F is that Transmission Gully route? Just do it before they have a Kaikoura like rumble that totally isolates the capital of NZ.

[AllanB]

You should. Picture this, CBR1000rr at full revs in first blasting through the tunnel. :shifty:

Not that I would do such a thing.......:confused:

It won;t be full revs - first gear will exceed the open road limit and the tunnel will be lower. You won't even be on cam:facepalm:

[nerrrd]

The irony is that by the time these 'new improvements' are made to ease congestion and make driving in Auckland a better experience, there is need for more 'new improvements' to ease congestion and make driving in Auckland a better experience.

''driving in Auckland a better experience'' :killingme

And as far as I can see, the reason for that can be summed up in one word: Wellington

[nzspokes]

It won;t be full revs - first gear will exceed the open road limit and the tunnel will be lower. You won't even be on cam:facepalm:

Yerp. 80k limit. Maybe just rev bomb it. The GSX will sound good at that speed though. :niceone:

[swbarnett]

And as far as I can see, the reason for that can be summed up in one word: Wellington
Nah, cars is the reason. Why any able-bodied person would willingly commute regularly in an otherwise empty four-wheeled prison is beyond me.

I say stop any and all arterial road development and let Auckland clog to the point where the ONLY way to get anywhere is by motorcycle or bicycle. Only then will we see large numbers of drivers finding the alternative they should have before billions of our dollars were wasted simply delaying the inevitable.

[JimO]

Nah, cars is the reason. Why any able-bodied person would willingly commute regularly in an otherwise empty four-wheeled prison is beyond me.

I say stop any and all arterial road development and let Auckland clog to the point where the ONLY way to get anywhere is by motorcycle or bicycle. Only then will we see large numbers of drivers finding the alternative they should have before billions of our dollars were wasted simply delaying the inevitable.
or people could move anywhere else in NZ

[nerrrd]

Nah, cars is the reason. Why any able-bodied person would willingly commute regularly in an otherwise empty four-wheeled prison is beyond me.

I say stop any and all arterial road development and let Auckland clog to the point where the ONLY way to get anywhere is by motorcycle or bicycle. Only then will we see large numbers of drivers finding the alternative they should have before billions of our dollars were wasted simply delaying the inevitable.

The majority of joe public is never going to motorcycle or cycle much, just not practical for them. And AT are doing their level best to clog up Auckland with unnecessarily overzealous traffic management already, who knows maybe to force Wellington into doing something.

Instead they keep building roads... probably because public transport will have to be even more heavily subsidised than it already is now to work, which doesn't fit with the neo-liberal ethos.

[Maha]

Wellington

Or as the Tourettes Society call it... Shit Piss Cunt Bucket.

[pritch]

If you are travelling from outside Auckland, don't assume it will be quicker and check Google maps before you reach the junctions.


I'm getting messages from Garmin telling me there are map updates. If the tunnel is the update that's quick.

I used to travel around Pt Chev, Waterview and Avondale on my pushbike way back when and I can't visualise where that tunnel goes. Still, I've been actively avoiding Auckland for decades and will probably continue to do so.

[T.W.R]

The TV3 news did a test run from their premises to the airport...one run travelling the old most direct route & the 2nd travelling via the tunnel...... the old route took 23mins or so and travelling via the tunnel took 21mins and was a 4km longer trip, so for that type of usage once the novelty wears off it'll be status quo

[swbarnett]

or people could move anywhere else in NZ
Agreed.


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[Moise]

The TV3 news did a test run from their premises to the airport...one run travelling the old most direct route & the 2nd travelling via the tunnel...... the old route took 23mins or so and travelling via the tunnel took 21mins and was a 4km longer trip, so for that type of usage once the novelty wears off it'll be status quo
Maggie Barry tweeted that it saved 10 mins on her trip to the airport, but she was probably told to say that!

Very surprised to see there is no shoulder whatsoever. How will emergency services get to accidents?



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[YellowDog]

OMG - What are you guys going on about, with this shit?

The difference is huge. 10 minutes of stop start traffic is worth saving and providing this alternative route helps everywhere else too.

No the novelty won't wear off at all. What it will do is move the bottle neck to being elsewhere.

[nzspokes]

I will go see if it makes my run home faster.

[swbarnett]

The majority of joe public is never going to motorcycle or cycle much, just not practical for them.
Therein lies the issue I have with this problem. There are a lot of people that, at least in fine weather, are quite capable of commuting by motorcycle that will refuse to do so simply because using a car is more comfortable. If we're going to solve our road problems we have to leave thoughts of comfort and status behind.

Bangkok, I think it was, had near zero congestion when the average income was too low to afford a car. As soon as the income rose high enough the number of cars shot up clogged the city. They were seen as a status symbol.

[YellowDog]

Therein lies the issue I have with this problem. There are a lot of people that, at least in fine weather, are quite capable of commuting by motorcycle that will refuse to do so simply because using a car is more comfortable. If we're going to solve our road problems we have to leave thoughts of comfort and status behind.

Bangkok, I think it was, had near zero congestion when the average income was too low to afford a car. As soon as the income rose high enough the number of cars shot up clogged the city. They were seen as a status symbol.

So how about a $10 daily congestion charge for cars and 0.00 for 2 wheeled vehicles?

[nzspokes]

I will go see if it makes my run home faster.

Slower, but that due to the North Western being a clusterfuck.

But one of the guys at work found it a lot quicker in.

[swbarnett]

So how about a $10 daily congestion charge for cars and 0.00 for 2 wheeled vehicles?
I'm not in favour of artificial charges like this. I don't think it will have a long term affect (drivers already pay $20 and more a day just to park in the CBD) and it penalises those that can't leave the car behind (tradies for one). However, I do agree that any measure that is weighted away from cars is a step in the right direction.

[caspernz]

So how about a $10 daily congestion charge for cars and 0.00 for 2 wheeled vehicles?

Nice idea but how to administer it?

I reckon one answer is transit lanes which can be used by cars with 3 or more occupants. Then use a ride share app to do some clever car pooling. Won't work for everyone, but it's a start.

[Akzle]

ban SUVs and women from driving. enforced with thos magnet cranes and car crushers randomly distributed and moved around like speed cameras


boom. 80% less traffic.

vote akzle.

[YellowDog]

Nice idea but how to administer it?

I reckon one answer is transit lanes which can be used by cars with 3 or more occupants. Then use a ride share app to do some clever car pooling. Won't work for everyone, but it's a start.

Easy to administer. Same way as the toll roads charge and fine, by reading the number plates.

[Voltaire]

Therein lies the issue I have with this problem. There are a lot of people that, at least in fine weather, are quite capable of commuting by motorcycle that will refuse to do so simply because using a car is more comfortable. If we're going to solve our road problems we have to leave thoughts of comfort and status behind.

Bangkok, I think it was, had near zero congestion when the average income was too low to afford a car. As soon as the income rose high enough the number of cars shot up clogged the city. They were seen as a status symbol.

By the time I get the bike out put the gear on its actually quicker to take the car to work if I'm at the ET office.
If working in town I take the bike as there are bus lanes and I can sneak it into the car park un noticed.

I was surprised how well the traffic flowed in Saigon and Hanoi a few years back, but as you say people aspire to a car and that will change it.

[Swoop]

So how about a $10 daily congestion charge for cars and 0.00 for 2 wheeled vehicles?

That would last as long as the Northern toll road did, before the taxation rate of a bike being the same as a car... WTF?
Another piece of evidence that proves that improving traffic flow is low on the priority list of pencil-pushing bureaucratic cock wombles.

[Voltaire]

That would last as long as the Northern toll road did, before the taxation rate of a bike being the same as a car... WTF?
Another piece of evidence that proves that improving traffic flow is low on the priority list of pencil-pushing bureaucratic cock wombles.

I think they learned a lesson from my long standing ( since they tolled bikes) boycott of the Northern Tunnel.:laugh:

[Moise]

I think they learned a lesson from my long standing ( since they tolled bikes) boycott of the Northern Tunnel.[emoji23]
That's really made a difference.

I've been using the old road since putting the rego on hold. If you're not in a hurry, it's a pleasant ride once you clear Orewa going north.

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[Scubbo]

added a lot more traffic getting home from wiri >>> mangere bridge for me :2guns: but whats another 30 seconds :eek:

[YellowDog]

First ride through the tunnel, from Papatoetoe, on Sunday. OMG, what an amazing differnce it has made to that journey.

HUGE improvement :yes:

[nzspokes]

First ride through the tunnel, from Papatoetoe, on Sunday. OMG, what an amazing differnce it has made to that journey.

HUGE improvement :yes:

Its even better in first. :shifty: