View Full Version : Can I borrow a Seagate 500GB 7200.11
Scuba_Steve
16th July 2017, 14:44
Hey I know a few round here work with tech, wondering if anyone had a spare Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200.11 ST3500320AS drive they could lend?
I just need to borrow the board off it to recover the data on one I've had meet the BSY death thanks to me never updating the FW (which TBH isn't something I really do with HDDs)
As these drives are around 10yrs old now I'm hoping someone has one sitting round doing nothing they wouldn't mind lending
Gremlin
16th July 2017, 17:34
I remember that being a common enough model (although surprised an 11 ever lasted that long with solid use). If you don't get a local result, try PM'ing Zapf (also in Auckland), he should have a few.
bogan
16th July 2017, 17:46
Checked my stash, only got a 320G 7200.10, close but no cigar...
GazzaH
16th July 2017, 18:48
3 on Tradme (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchString=Seagate+500GB+7200 .11&type=Search&searchType=all&user_region=100&user_district=0&generalSearch_keypresses=4&generalSearch_suggested=0&generalSearch_suggestedCategory=) right now ...
Scuba_Steve
16th July 2017, 18:55
I remember that being a common enough model (although surprised an 11 ever lasted that long with solid use). If you don't get a local result, try PM'ing Zapf (also in Auckland), he should have a few.
Yea it's done quite well considering, I should have laid it to rest a few years back now & replaced with a bigger one tho.
Cheers for the possible source too
GazzaH
16th July 2017, 19:02
Are you sure it's the PCB, Scuba-Steve?
If the platters are OK & the case is still sealed, commercial forensic data recovery services are a possibility ... if price is no object and you can afford to wait.
Scuba_Steve
16th July 2017, 19:52
Are you sure it's the PCB, Scuba-Steve?
If the platters are OK & the case is still sealed, commercial forensic data recovery services are a possibility ... if price is no object and you can afford to wait.
Yea it's the PCB, well more the FW contained on it; I'm looking for the quick/easy 'get it going & recover my data' nothing on it is super important it didn't come from my main PC (that one's backed up hourly); this is more a convenience thing so not looking to spend much of anything on it, the drives already been replaced just want the data back now & if the quick easy option isn't available I'll revert to the slightly harder & more time consuming RS232 to TTL adaptor fix
Akzle
16th July 2017, 20:14
nyahuh. and what does linux tell you when it's plugged in?
GazzaH
16th July 2017, 20:23
OK. Just checked my stash of ex-drives. Only Seagate I have is 80 gigs I'm afraid.
Back in the day, that was a lot.
The first disk drives I used were about 300 Megs, the size of a fridge and cost about $20k.
Kids today, eh?
Scuba_Steve
16th July 2017, 20:43
nyahuh. and what does linux tell you when it's plugged in?
Nothing, doesn't know it's there. When the BSY failure hits it won't even post in BIOS/EFI
Akzle
16th July 2017, 20:43
OK. Just checked my stash of ex-drives. Only Seagate I have is 80 gigs I'm afraid.
Back in the day, that was a lot.
The first disk drives I used were about 300 Megs, the size of a fridge and cost about $20k.
Kids today, eh?
innit.
i have a 4MB 2.5" drive. probably from the first laptop in the country.
how times have changed.
Gremlin
16th July 2017, 20:50
The first disk drives I used were about 300 Megs, the size of a fridge and cost about $20k.
Kids today, eh?
My own server has 6x 4TB disks for 12-14TB of space... new one I'll build this year or next will be bigger again. Only thing holding me from going too big is the rebuild time when dropping a disk means increased odds of dropping another disk.
Still have my 64MB usb stick from circa 2002 floating around somewhere... You'd probably squeeze a bios firmware onto it now :laugh:
Honest Andy
16th July 2017, 20:56
Fuck, well, you've all lost me... can't tell if you're talking about a late model Suzuki or a '70s Laverda... how many CCs is that in the old measurements...? :scratch:
Scuba_Steve
16th July 2017, 21:07
Fuck, well, you've all lost me... can't tell if you're talking about a late model Suzuki or a '70s Laverda... how many CCs is that in the old measurements...? :scratch:
Probably more late model Suzuki than a 70's thing, least the Suzuki may have been designed using one. It's about 57cc's
pete376403
16th July 2017, 21:13
Well if we're talking about size, I used to look after a number of AS400 sites - Telecom (when they were called that) among others. Large rooms full of full size racks, each containing 4 x 9335 drives and 2 x 9335 controllers. Each drive had 18" diameter platters and was a massive 850 meg per box, a whole 3.4 gig per rack.
Best (or worst) of all, they were made in England and had a horrific failure rate.
Akzle
16th July 2017, 21:19
Nothing, doesn't know it's there. When the BSY failure hits it won't even post in BIOS/EFI
have you tried turning it upside down? (jah i know you think its fw not heads)
you realise also swapping boards isn't hunnits guarantee? the serial fix might be better here...
and where are your backups?
henceforth don't spin it up any more than neccessary.
is it ide or sata? can you chuck it in an external enclosure/dock? if you can powercycle it to the (linux) OS you might have better luck than from post handover. (ie, it will populate an addressable block dev) if it does: IMAGE IT IMMEDIATELY.
i'll have a look in my drawer tomorow.
Scuba_Steve
16th July 2017, 21:31
have you tried turning it upside down? (jah i know you think its fw not heads)
you realise also swapping boards isn't hunnits guarantee? the serial fix might be better here...
and where are your backups?
henceforth don't spin it up any more than neccessary.
is it ide or sata? can you chuck it in an external enclosure/dock? if you can powercycle it to the (linux) OS you might have better luck than from post handover. (ie, it will populate an addressable block dev) if it does: IMAGE IT IMMEDIATELY.
i'll have a look in my drawer tomorow.
Tried many things before Googley search to find these drives came with bad FW that could cause 1 of 2 failures mine has the BSY failure
Backups are held on a ext network connected drive but are reserved only for the main PC's in the house
This drive in question is a SATA one, as part of my trial & error stage it's had many cycles on ext connection with different OS's
Gremlin
16th July 2017, 21:31
you realise also swapping boards isn't hunnits guarantee? the serial fix might be better here...
The 11s were well known for an issue I forget. ES and regular alike, we had a 50%+ failure rate. His part code is sata.
Akzle
17th July 2017, 16:46
have a 7200.10
ST3500830AS... no good i suppose? 3.AFE fw.
OEM disk...
MarkH
17th July 2017, 18:42
Oh so close - I have a 7200.11 but it is a 750GB.
If I had found a 7200.11 500GB I would have happily given it to you, I have no use for such a tiny drive.
I have started putting 8TB drives in my NAS boxes, my QNAP 4-bay has 2 x 8TB with 2 empty slots so I can add 2 more.
Some of my old drives I don't use anymore are 1TB and bigger.
Akzle
17th July 2017, 18:51
Some of my old drives I don't use anymore are 1TB and bigger.
giz it. i'll swap you for some 80GB IDEs :laugh:
mashman
23rd July 2017, 11:25
Tidying the garage yesterday and waddayaknow, I found an HDD of that model in a bits box. Not spun it up yet to health check it, but if yer still looking for one I'll do that very thing.
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