Road Racing Chest Protectors

[rustys]

With the new rules for 2018 Road Racing Chest Protectors are going to be compulsory from January 2018. So I was just wondering whether anyone would be doing a bulk purchase for these ?, as there are a great number of Racers out there that are not using anything at the moment . The Alpine Stars Nucleon KR-CiR looks the go, Certified to EN1621 which MNZ are requiring, it comes in two Sizes retailing for around $80. I have been using a Chest protector for years but not under this certification, so will have to purchase something to meet the new standards.
Anyone doing a Deal?

[Crasherfromwayback]

With the new rules for 2018 Road Racing Chest Protectors are going to be compulsory from January 2018. So I was just wondering whether anyone would be doing a bulk purchase for these ?, as there are a great number of Racers out there that are not using anything at the moment . The Alpine Stars Nucleon KR-CiR looks the go, Certified to EN1621 which MNZ are requiring, it comes in two Sizes retailing for around $80. I have been using a Chest protector for years but not under this certification, so will have to purchase something to meet the new standards.
Anyone doing a Deal?

What's next? Compulsory High Vis?

[rustys]

Most likely!!!!!!! , certainly not making it easy for the younger Riders these days, just more and more costs. Wait till they bring that Belly Pan rule out that will be me done and a few hundred others. Any way Chest Protector pricing was my question.

[sharp2183]

I did quite a lot of looking and $80 for the Alpinestars one was the best I could find.

Be wary though, they only work if your suit fits correctly (ie quite tight) as they just sit in place. My observation has been that heaps of people wear suits way too big for them and in these cases you would need to get a chest protector with straps. Or get a suit that fits. As an aside I would much rather have a well fitting suit and no chest protector than a loose suit with one.

[Crasherfromwayback]

. As an aside I would much rather have a well fitting suit and no chest protector than a loose suit with one.

It's a fucking queer rule. Not that I have any plans of doing any more road racing...but if I did decide to, I'd have to either buy a new set of leathers, or have expensive alterations done to mine. Fuck that.

[jasonu]

What's next?

Participation trophies.....




Talk about fucking gaying it up!!!

[rustys]

It's a fucking queer rule. Not that I have any plans of doing any more road racing...but if I did decide to, I'd have to either buy a new set of leathers, or have expensive alterations done to mine. Fuck that.

That's very true crasher, and as sharp2183 says with his comments with loose suits, all just keeps adding up the price of it all.

[jellywrestler]

It's a fucking queer rule. Not that I have any plans of doing any more road racing...but if I did decide to, I'd have to either buy a new set of leathers, or have expensive alterations done to mine. Fuck that.

ask those who've had chest injuries whether it is? reality it is where the FIM have headed, would you like to go against their advice and then have an incident and be held liable for it?

[sharp2183]

That's very true crasher, and as sharp2183 says with his comments with loose suits, all just keeps adding up the price of it all.

Definitely makes it just another cost. And let's be honest some people may be getting into 250 racing with a borrowed old suit and really don't want to spend the money.

The other side of the coin is that $100 is not a lot to pay for something that could save your life. I had a bike come down on me a while back and I wouldn't have wanted it to hit me in the chest... That said, if it wasn't compulsory I wouldn't have got one.

[Crasherfromwayback]

ask those who've had chest injuries whether it is? reality it is where the FIM have headed, would you like to go against their advice and then have an incident and be held liable for it?

Well we'd best ban motorcycle racing then. Could get hurt.

[ellipsis]

Check out the Torpedo7 stuff. My new back protector has the chest protector. A vest really. 150 bucks-ish I think. 1621 and all that shite.

[MVnut]

I think it's a good idea plus a sign of the times re protection. When I started we had basic black leathers, no extra protection and full face helmets had to be imported. Duct tape was our kneesliders etc. Gloves were thin, boots had no ankle or others 'extras etc.

I have personally given (free) quite a few sets of Dainese leathers and back protectors to beginner/junior racers and happy to have helped.

On another note, many outside the racing community need to learn about protection too, specially fathers of some of the murderous bastards that are surfacing of late

[nzspokes]

Presume this will come down to track dayers as well?

[MVnut]

Presume this will come down to track dayers as well?

And why not? Most trackday only riders have so much to learn even about the most basic things, starting with setting the bike up and even making it safe. Most track day bikes are a fucking disgrace preparation wise and should not be any where near a racetrack. Organised trackdays with proper training and scrutineering are the only way forward.

[nzspokes]

And why not? Most trackday only riders have so much to learn even about the most basic things, starting with setting the bike up and even making it safe. Most track day bikes are a fucking disgrace preparation wise and should not be any where near a racetrack. Organised trackdays with proper training and scrutineering are the only way forward.

LOL, too many beersies tonight?

[MVnut]

LOL, too many beersies tonight?

Sorry can no longer drink alcohol so I'll use the other excuse, the truth. Looking at trackday bikes, as opposed to those of licenced racers, in the last 15 or so years things have deteriorated to the point of maybe 25 to 30% should never be allowed on a track, a further 25 odd % barely up to scratch. I am not talking about superficial cosmetic damage, I'm talking about badly maintained and presented bikes.

Fortunately there are still a good number of riders who take pride in their preparation, actually the only sensible thing to do with a bike you are intending to ride flat out.

[nzspokes]

the truth

You need to get out more. :laugh:

Most track day bikes I have been out with you could eat your dinner off the motors.

[Dreama]

You need to get out more. :laugh:

Most track day bikes I have been out with you could eat your dinner off the motors.

Yes, agree with that.
I've done plenty of club racing but mainly just do track days now and I haven't seen any badly presented bikes, or at least nothing that caught my eye.
HD track days scrutinize now so that also helps.
I definitely recall a lot of very shabby race bikes when I raced (1998-2010).
I do agree that set up knowledge is lacking in many track day riders but that's to be expected.

[rustys]

Well this Thread seems to have created some interest for and against.

Any way I certainly don't be grudge paying $80 for a chest protector if it can save me from those awful bloody painful busted ribs which I have had inflicted on me in the past when not wearing any protection I will certainly be getting hold of one.

Can someone tell me this then please...... I have just checked my current Back Protectors which I have been using for the last 15 years they are the Full spine Teknic Back protector with Velcro around the waist , I have two of them, but know where on them does it indicate any certification at all, no tags or anything. So am I up for new back protectors as well ? and a lot of others, as these were very popular with riders. Check your gear folks !!!!!

Would MNZ give approval for this well known Teknic Back protector even without a certified tag?

What other Brand options do we have in regards to chest protectors?.... Alpine Stars / .........

[Mental Trousers]

What's next? Compulsory High Vis?

Newbies already have to. So if you started road racing again you'd probably be classed as a newbie and have to wear one hahahaha

[ellipsis]

Well this Thread seems to have created some interest for and against.

Any way I certainly don't be grudge paying $80 for a chest protector if it can save me from those awful bloody painful busted ribs which I have had inflicted on me in the past when not wearing any protection I will certainly be getting hold of one.

Can someone tell me this then please...... I have just checked my current Back Protectors which I have been using for the last 15 years they are the Full spine Teknic Back protector with Velcro around the waist , I have two of them, but know where on them does it indicate any certification at all, no tags or anything. So am I up for new back protectors as well ? and a lot of others, as these were very popular with riders. Check your gear folks !!!!!

Would MNZ give approval for this well known Teknic Back protector even without a certified tag?

What other Brand options do we have in regards to chest protectors?.... Alpine Stars / .........

...talk to MNZ...no numbers , no race...I had to ditch a good back protector and so did my son, his brand new and as safe as any other...no number, no race...

[AllanB]

Good idea or not I leave to the individuals racing.

I do propose that the rule has more to do with liability of the race originators that anything else.



It's a funny thing really - in the most controlled of riding conditions (a closed track) the strictest of rules are enforced. However some chump on his American wet dream can roar up the road wearing a 'stars and stripes' T-shirt, no gloves, Vans on his feet and oily Levis and if injured the tax payer will fun the recovery.

Apologizes to riders of the glory machines who wear decent gear, even if it does have 42 labels denoting the glory machines name and 150 frills.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Newbies already have to. So if you started road racing again you'd probably be classed as a newbie and have to wear one hahahaha

Just another good reason why I can't be fucked with the whole scene anymore.

[jellywrestler]

Just another good reason why I can't be fucked with the whole scene anymore.

how would your foot be Pete if you went into those airbags now at wanganui, instead of what you hit a few years ago?

[steveyb]

Forcefield protection available via Dolds Industries. The best in the world.

Knox protection available via QMoto. The first equal best in the world.

A few plastic sheets with soft stuff underneath does not a protector make.

[Crasherfromwayback]

how would your foot be Pete if you went into those airbags now at wanganui, instead of what you hit a few years ago?

Hey, I fully understand what you're saying Spyda. Removing dangers is a good thing. But so is personal choice. Some would say drinking piss is dangerous. I know it is. But I like doing it.

The only full season of racing I did back in the day, I remember some upstart tossbag telling me he was going to report me for drinking a beer for breakfast at Teretonga.

There were people racing there still pissed from the night before. I wasn't one of them. I simply had noting else to drink, so had said beer, to wet my whistle.

How would that go down now?

Personal choice, is something I'm so sad to see being removed from us.

[jasonu]

The only full season of racing I did back in the day, I remember some upstart tossbag telling me he was going to report me for drinking a beer for breakfast at Teretonga.


Sorry mate I would have potted you for that one.

How would it have looked if you had been involved in a serious on track incident and it came to the officials attention that you were seen drinking beer that morning?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sorry mate I would have potted you for that one.

How would it have looked if you had been involved in a serious on track incident and it came to the officials attention that you were seen drinking beer that morning?

Well then you're a fucking sifter. Do you know it's not illegal to drink a beer whilst driving your car? Why? Because it's no more harmful/dangerous than drinking a lemonade. Drinking so many, that you end up pissed is on offence, and rightfully so. But one beer? Fuck off. If I'd had an accident, and a blood test showed I was over any sort of legal limit...fine. But if not? Beer, coffee...lemonade. Makes no fucking difference.

Maybe this guy should've been disqualified then?


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[jellywrestler]

Maybe this guy should've been disqualified then?



think he'd already won, Horst Saiger's latest vid at Terlick (spelling?) this year says a lot about the drinking culture there at the track, 45 beer stalls, no coffee outlets and a shot on the wind down lap

[Crasherfromwayback]

think he'd already won, Horst Saiger's latest vid at Terlick (spelling?) this year says a lot about the drinking culture there at the track, 45 beer stalls, no coffee outlets and a shot on the wind down lap

Yep. Big diff between having a quick beer and being drunk and dangerous though.

[rustys]

Threads fucked were to drunk!!!!!!!!

[caspernz]

Might as well have another beer then :beer::rockon::drinkup:

[AllanB]

On the wine - does that count? Must Google image 'chest' ....

[caspernz]

Oh I think you'd be safe, well until Mr Google directs you to one of those awfully dodgy sites that I've, ahem, heard about :innocent: