Rant: Drivers that speed up on the straights!

[Hads]

About once a week on my commute I meet these drivers that go quite slow round the corners and then speed up on the straights, sometimes to stupid speeds, I know that it is likely unintentional, but it doesn't make it any less infuriating. My 660cc car struggles to pass people without lots of planning, and sometimes it results in a side by side drag race down a straight.

I had one the other day that I passed directly after a corner by maintaining my speed through it, I noticed them coming up behind me so sped up to 110km/h (I know speeding is bad) and then they passed me very close to a blind corner doing 120ish, then slammed on their brakes and do well under the recommended around the corner. Next straight they sped up to 120km/h again. Knowing that Lake Forsythe was coming up and there is no overtaking spots till the slow vehicle lane up the hill (if they even use it), I overtook them on the last straight by cutting off their overtaking opportunity of a campervan by getting up to a decent speed before the opportunity to overtake.

Other frustrating type is the ones in their fancy SUV's meandering up the hill then get to the slow vehicle lane and floor it while in the left lane, my poor alto cannot out drag a Land Rover up hill...

And this is why I ride my KDX on Friday's during summer, lots of acceleration.

Anyhow Rant over, carry on.

[James Deuce]

I do 70-80kph everywhere and then speed up in passing lanes to 105 or so.

Great way to get attention from other road users.

[ellipsis]

...I have driven that same stretch for 30 years Hads...my old 60 Series Cruiser takes a while to get up to speed for any overtaking so I don't...I drive at a constant 90kph from Halswell to LR...I doubt that I lift my foot to either decelerate or brake at any point...they fly past or speed ahead after nearly stopping on some of those corners until the next corner where I miraculously seem to be up their arse again...they repeat the procedure...90% of the time I'm three car lengths behind them when I turn off the highway about a hundred meters from home...you can't help but be amused, but they probably think they are cool and safe drivers...exactly the same when heading towards Chch, I seem to be behind them at the first set of lights...you don't need a Maserati like cassy says, just better music on the stereo...

[RDJ]

I do 70-80kph everywhere and then speed up in passing lanes to 105 or so.

Great way to get attention from other road users.

Doesn't work James, I pass you without noticing you :-)

[James Deuce]

Doesn't work James, I pass you without noticing you :-)
You're not my target demographic.

[Hads]

Part of your problem is you need a car with a bigger motor and maybe a car like a Commodore/Falcon or 4WD 3L turbo diesel to compete with the Landrovers etc uphill. On the positive side if they are slowing for the bends there is less likleyhood of them crossing the centre line.

I am actually looking to buy a new 4WD to make overtakes more relaxing myself and my 4WD is 2L. A 3L turbo diesel appeals to me as they have a 0-100km time of about 7seconds which is about the same as my bike that I have no problem overtaking with but if I wanted to get into high speed sports bike group riding I would need a bigger bike to keep up but would not be able to handle the pressure to do so anyway.

You'd think that going at slower speeds would reduce centre lane crossing, however unfortunately this is not always the case. I do notice that sometimes people are feeling pressured by me to go faster up the hill so start driving very badly, where the centre line is an optional guide. These types I will pass at the hilltop if possible, or on the straight before the 2 35's.

[PrincessBandit]

Wankers who travel frustratingly slowly then manage to speed up on overtaking lanes is nothing new. Met heaps of them on a recent trip down country. My wee car is a manual though so pickup wasn’t a problem. Still had to floor it to get past the pricks so just happy there were no cops in the vacinity...:whistle:

[mrchips]

My 660cc car

Are you serious ?..... i had a scooter with more cc than that.

[Swoop]

My 660cc car ...

"Struggles when attempting to pull the skin off of a rice pudding"?

"Gets blown backwards in strong headwinds"?

"Is regularly overtaken by 50cc scooters on the open road"?

"Is more powerful than a 2yr old child on a pedal powered tricycle ... just".

[nzspokes]

Are you serious ?..... i had a scooter with more cc than that.

Is that even legal?

[Murray]

According to other threads Cassina states that people should be going around corners at indicated speed signs. Are they doing this or going slower?

[Hads]

According to other threads Cassina states that people should be going around corners at indicated speed signs. Are they doing this or going slower?

Combination, personally I don't do the recommended, the speed round the corner for me depends on the corner, the recommended doesn't always correlate to the speed that can be achieved safely.

For example a right turn 65 I usually can take at around 100, a left more like 90, this is based on the fact that I sit on the right hand side so counter balance the roll in the car.

[Mike.Gayner]

I noticed them coming up behind me so sped up to 110km/h

You are part of the problem.

[Grumph]

For example a right turn 65 I usually can take at around 100, a left more like 90, this is based on the fact that I sit on the right hand side so counter balance the roll in the car.

You need to lean over more.....

I remember taking our Suzuki Fronte 500cc car to Ruapuna and drifting it round the sweeper with the inside front off the ground. I could have done with a good swinger hanging out on the left.....

[caspernz]

I noticed them coming up behind me so sped up to 110km/h

We'll happily dish out suitable admonishment, for the title and body of your post suggest you want us to...

[neels]

I remember taking our Suzuki Fronte 500cc car to Ruapuna and drifting it round the sweeper with the inside front off the ground. I could have done with a good swinger hanging out on the left.....I've got a very similar photo of my Mk1 Cortina going around the corner from the apron onto the taxiway at Wigram, all crossed up with the left front dangling in the breeze. Good old days.....


I used to get annoyed with the straight line specialists who hit the picks at the mere suggestion of a corner, driving shit vehicles with bugger all horsepower it's a pain in the arse if you can't maintain momentum, particularly on the hilly bits.

Much less stressful to just back off and leave them to it, turn the music up and look at the scenery instead, it probably only makes 3 minutes difference to when you reach your destination anyway.

Must be getting old and lazy or summink....

[pritch]

Some decades ago I used to have one of those Commodes with an 1800 engine. Many passing lanes are up hill and that car really wasn't up to much up a hill. I still have a quite vivid memory of an old couple in a Mitsi 3000 on the long uphill passing lane south of Te Kuiti, I was stuck beside them flat out going nowhere.

These days my engine is still a similar size, but turbos make things happen a lot faster.

It's not just cars though I was ranting in my helmet once at a "see you next Tuesday"* on a Honda ST1300 who wouldn't exert himself sufficiently to change down and took the entire passing lane to overtake a single car. This went on for some distance until eventually I got pissed off and overtook him rather more aggressively than would be normal. One of those dudes who has never been in an accident, caused hundreds, just never been in one.





*Acknolwledgement to Guy Martin.

[EJK]

About once a week on my commute I meet these drivers that go quite slow round the corners and then speed up on the straights, sometimes to stupid speeds, I know that it is likely unintentional, but it doesn't make it any less infuriating. My 660cc car struggles to pass people without lots of planning, and sometimes it results in a side by side drag race down a straight.

I had one the other day that I passed directly after a corner by maintaining my speed through it, I noticed them coming up behind me so sped up to 110km/h (I know speeding is bad) and then they passed me very close to a blind corner doing 120ish, then slammed on their brakes and do well under the recommended around the corner. Next straight they sped up to 120km/h again. Knowing that Lake Forsythe was coming up and there is no overtaking spots till the slow vehicle lane up the hill (if they even use it), I overtook them on the last straight by cutting off their overtaking opportunity of a campervan by getting up to a decent speed before the opportunity to overtake.

Other frustrating type is the ones in their fancy SUV's meandering up the hill then get to the slow vehicle lane and floor it while in the left lane, my poor alto cannot out drag a Land Rover up hill...

And this is why I ride my KDX on Friday's during summer, lots of acceleration.

Anyhow Rant over, carry on.

Never had that problem since getting a 1000cc superbike.

[Hads]

Never had that problem since getting a 1000cc superbike.

I don't have that problem with the 200cc kdx sit just below the powerband at 100, so plenty of power spare for getting past people. However it costs twice as much as the alto to drive on the daily for just fuel related costs, let alone maintenance.

$20 per day for Alto
$40 per day for KDX.

[T.W.R]

I don't have that problem with the 200cc kdx sit just below the powerband at 100, so plenty of power spare for getting past people. However it costs twice as much as the alto to drive on the daily for just fuel related costs, let alone maintenance.

$20 per day for Alto
$40 per day for KDX.

:shit: Those costs per day are thirsty fella! even the ZX would use less than the alto doing a return run to Akers behaving itself at mostly legal speeds and would only nudge the cost of the KDX if it was a nut run over the hill ;)

At 100km/h the ol KDX doesn't have that much left in reserve, fiddled with enough of them for a few years to know exactly what they're capable of and can probably without any bullshit lay claim to assembling the last ones that came to Canterbury and the last handful that came to NZ.

[Hads]

:shit: Those costs per day are thirsty fella! even the ZX would use less than the alto doing a return run to Akers behaving itself at mostly legal speeds and would only nudge the cost of the KDX if it was a nut run over the hill ;)

At 100km/h the ol KDX doesn't have that much left in reserve, fiddled with enough of them for a few years to know exactly what they're capable of and can probably without any bullshit lay claim to assembling the last ones that came to Canterbury and the last handful that came to NZ.

kdx cost includes 2-stroke oil, a good quality one, I think petrol component is $28 of that.


I adjusted the gearing on the KDX, top speed now is 135 ish, plenty for overtaking, gets there quick too.


Alto is using 10L of fuel a day for 160km of driving, probably 1/2 of that is on the hill, I don't drive like a nana, works out at just over 6L per 100km.

KDX uses about 14L of fuel a day for the same 160km, again I don't drive like a nana, so could probably bring that down to 11L..

[James Deuce]

I don't have that problem with the 200cc kdx sit just below the powerband at 100, so plenty of power spare for getting past people. However it costs twice as much as the alto to drive on the daily for just fuel related costs, let alone maintenance.

$20 per day for Alto
$40 per day for KDX.
Yes, but what about your soul?

[skinman]

jees, doing your bit for global warming... I am riding a F800 (must update profile...), does 22k per l. just saying.

[EJK]

You dont need 1000ccs to outpace most traffic but if you are into group riding and like to keep up maybe yes.

Sorry, I used to ride alone.

[T.W.R]

kdx cost includes 2-stroke oil, a good quality one, I think petrol component is $28 of that.


I adjusted the gearing on the KDX, top speed now is 135 ish, plenty for overtaking, gets there quick too.


Alto is using 10L of fuel a day for 160km of driving, probably 1/2 of that is on the hill, I don't drive like a nana, works out at just over 6L per 100km.

KDX uses about 14L of fuel a day for the same 160km, again I don't drive like a nana, so could probably bring that down to 11L..

You'd being doing yourself & the KDX an injustice if you weren't using anything but the best quality oil you can get hold of, particularly seeing that what you're doing is continuous high speed running :yes:
They can sheer the nibs off the power valves from continual hard use too

A well sorted KDX in stock form will run close to 135km/h flat knacker

And realistically being blunt neither it nor the alto (which is essentially grandma's suburban shopping basket) you're using in the environments they weren't intended for

[MarkH]

I don't have that problem with the 200cc kdx sit just below the powerband at 100, so plenty of power spare for getting past people. However it costs twice as much as the alto to drive on the daily for just fuel related costs, let alone maintenance.

$20 per day for Alto
$40 per day for KDX.

Holy crap!
How far is your commute?
My ST1300 can do my WEEKLY commuting (350km) for $40.

[TheDemonLord]

I don't have that problem with the 200cc kdx sit just below the powerband at 100, so plenty of power spare for getting past people. However it costs twice as much as the alto to drive on the daily for just fuel related costs, let alone maintenance.

$20 per day for Alto
$40 per day for KDX.

uwotm8?

When I was doing 120 Km round trip daily on the 'Busa (most of which was filtering on HW1) - I was doing $30 every 2 and a half days.

[awayatc]

You dont need 1000ccs to outpace most traffic but if you are into group riding and like to keep up maybe yes.

Would you be kind enough to just get fucked?

I can't rember ever having read so many annoying repetitive drivel post from one single individual.

I'd choose waterboarding all day long before I would put up with you for an hour in real life....

[James Deuce]

I can't rember ever having read so many annoying repetitive drivel post from one single individual.

I sense a challenge!

[Swoop]

So you have a 1000cc bike then for image rather than to make full use of its power?

Supposedly you have a brain, but insist on demonstrating that you might only use 0.5% of its ability. Then, only to demonstrate that you are a retarded cunt... or are you just using it for your "image"?

[awayatc]

I was not even replying to you so get fucked yourself.

This is a forum....
So I chose to read some posts
Doesn't matter if it's a reply " to me" or not.
Your verbal diarrhea however seems to soil almost any post on any topic......
You must either suffer badly from dementia or somehow never managed to develop a second braincell.

Now be a darling and leave the adults alone , there surely must be at least one dog left in your neighborhood you can pester....

or did you run them all over?

[Berries]

You are part of the problem.

+1. Any motorbike rider who complains about cars travelling too slowly or speeding up on corners should have their bike licence taken off them and be forced to drive a shitty sub 1litre car. Oh hang on.......

[RDJ]

So you have a 1000cc bike then for image rather than to make full use of its power?

I rarely use all the power available on any of my bikes, and I do like their images. I trust this makes you feel better :devil2:

[RDJ]

I sense a challenge!

We're going to need a bigger popcorn container...

[Oakie]

Doesn't everyone slow down for the corners and speed up for he straights? If we didn't speed up for the straights we'd just go at cornering speed all day long. Or am I missing the point?

OP. What sort of car is your 660cc one? I have a disturbing attraction to the 660cc Daihatsu Copen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daihatsu_Copen Mrs Oakie thinks it's ugly but for some reason I quite like the look.

[Maha]

Riders that speed up on the straights!.... Boulevard owners. :corn:

[george formby]

Much less stressful to just back off and leave them to it, turn the music up and look at the scenery instead, it probably only makes 3 minutes difference to when you reach your destination anyway.

Must be getting old and lazy or summink....

Dis.

I've ended up with another glacial car designed by an Arab. It's reason for being is to waste petrol and brake pads by implying it actually has a modicum of performance. I think this is caused by a special valve in the exhaust which opens when you plant your boot and produces a revvy noise.

About 5 minutes later it seems to change down gears and the red needle on the rev counter whizzes around the dial into the red boxes at the end.

The strange thing is, despite all these hints, their are no physical changes to what is happening outside. The scenery stays perfectly in focus, my distance to the vehicles around me changes very little and I have no physical sensation of forward momentum.

The fuel gauge needle moves faster than the speedo needle.

Consequently, I only consider overtaking if a vehicle in front appears to be reversing. The rest of the time I watch the world go by and think about how pissed off the Arab designer would be knowing that I achieve better fuel economy than he states on Google and have yet to fully scrub in the brake pads after 5000km.

The shenanigans of other road users are just entertainment on my gentle cruise to work. I'm considering getting a crocheted toilet roll cover for the rear luggage rack but it's hard to find one that matches the tartan travel rug with my fedora on it which already lives there.

[MSTRS]

Consequently, I only consider overtaking if a vehicle in front appears to be reversing.

Where was this advice when Hitcher was a young lad?

[Maha]

Where was this advice when Hitcher was a young lad?

Wondering that at anytime in the future, would a Kenworth get in the way of him and his GSXFa.

[ellipsis]

...fuck off you queer cunt...

[nzspokes]

Only wimps on this site like me slow down for corners. I remember a few years back on here another poster who saw a guy go around a corner described his cornering as being fast and safe. When I replied that there was no such thing I got attacked by some others on here some of whom would likely be in the cemetery now due to their belief.

I overtook a 1400 Concurs today on a 650 with knobbies. He couldnt keep up on corners.

Should I be dead now?

[flashg]

I overtook a 1400 Concurs today on a 650 with knobbies. He couldnt keep up on corners.

Should I be dead now?Cornering on the black stuff on knobblies is so much fun. We should all be dead.
At least you weren't under pressure to keep up, you would've crashed for sure. Being in front is safer, I'm certain.

[nzspokes]

Cornering on the black stuff on knobblies is so much fun. We should all be dead.
At least you weren't under pressure to keep up, you would've crashed for sure. Being in front is safer, I'm certain.

Well I did blast up what i thought was a road today, turns out it was a farmer's driveway. The look he gave me from his deck said he wanted to kill me. Think that was the fastest U turn ive ever done.

[flashg]

Well I did blast up what i thought was a road today, turns out it was a farmer's driveway. The look he gave me from his deck said he wanted to kill me. Think that was the fastest U turn ive ever done.Sounds like you're enjoying that bike, I think you made a great choice.

[nzspokes]

Sounds like you're enjoying that bike, I think you made a great choice.

Loving it. Most fun Ive had on 2 wheels in a long time.

[neels]

I overtook a 1400 Concurs today on a 650 with knobbies. He couldnt keep up on corners.
Not unusual for a light(ish) trail bike to carve up a road pig, even on knobblies


Loving it. Most fun Ive had on 2 wheels in a long time.
It's a whole different type of fun, a lot of it doesn't involve going fast, but a lack of skill will bite you on the arse. The good part is when you run out of talent, a lot of the time you can pick the thing up, scrape off the excess mud and carry on.

I hope you didn't put undue pressure on the 1400 owner to keep up......

[george formby]

Loving it. Most fun Ive had on 2 wheels in a long time.

That's a win, then.:niceone:

[RDJ]

Dis. I'm considering getting a crocheted toilet roll cover for the rear luggage rack but it's hard to find one that matches the tartan travel rug with my fedora on it which already lives there.

Yah, but do you have the little doggie with the nodding head...? :yes:

[george formby]

Yah, but do you have the little doggie with the nodding head...? :yes:

Man, those things are like hens teeth. I have a couple of grass skirt hula girls and a dream catcher instead.