Two strokes are the devil!

[SlowHand]

well that sentence could be wrong, but as it says in my "bike:" thing, I've got an RG150

Here's the thing. Mostly I hear of dirt bike engines being rebuilt left, right, up, down, and centre. so I wonder, should I not ride my bike as hard? I tend to be full throttle most of the time, doesnt help much that it's not a fast bike. Should I modulate throttle more and cruise a little more?

And slightly off topic, had a go on a mates nsr250. just a quick one, noticed it was a lot more forgiving and easier to go faster. Plus he was keeping up with me easy while I was having 5c-50c moments. I've had 1000kms under me belt and it was he's first road but been on dirt a while.

I played the 'run' over and over in my head and realised my mistakes. Now, rider error aside, is there that much difference tween the two bikes?

[Ixion]

well that sentence could be wrong, but as it says in my "bike:" thing, I've got an RG150

Here's the thing. Mostly I hear of dirt bike engines being rebuilt left, right, up, down, and centre. so I wonder, should I not ride my bike as hard? I tend to be full throttle most of the time, doesnt help much that it's not a fast bike. Should I modulate throttle more and cruise a little more?

And slightly off topic, had a go on a mates nsr250. just a quick one, noticed it was a lot more forgiving and easier to go faster. Plus he was keeping up with me easy while I was having 5c-50c moments. I've had 1000kms under me belt and it was he's first road but been on dirt a while.

I played the 'run' over and over in my head and realised my mistakes. Now, rider error aside, is there that much difference tween the two bikes?


Two strokes GOOD. What's the problem. Your mate's bike is nearly double the size of yours. Naturally it's a lot faster. 150 two smoker will go fast enough. Ask Mr Two Smoker, he keeps them up there with 600s. Wring the neck off it, it's how they're meant to be ridden.

[SlowHand]

I meant more the cornering performance. I felt like I was able to hold more speed easier etc. It just felt a whole lot nicer, and my stupid n00b movements didnt upset it too much.
I like my bike, and I like the fact it 'feel's less forgiving -teach me better habits hopefully, but I wondered if there is in fact that much difference between the bikes.

Im guessing the engines in road bikes aren't as highly strung as the dirt ones then Ixion?

[Brian d marge]

read my lips

2 strokes god err good 4 stokes bad .....

the pumping efficiency of a 2 stoke is better than a 4 stroke

and anyone who lives in californicate ,,,I hope you like hugging trees ..( largest market hence the move towards the wasted stroke )

Note ..why do I have to suffer the soccer mum vote .....????

Stephen

back in a few min I just going to add some more oil to the CR,,,,,,,,

BTW dont listen to the popular vote .....Smoking is good for you .....2 smoking that is ......

[Str8 Jacket]

I LUUURVE my 2 stroke. How could you not? I love the smell and the sound :devil2: If Id known what I know now, I would have bought the KR instead of the GN originally. Its easier to ride and just goes better. I have filled my bike up at least 8-10 times and the oil levels been fine . . .


:spudwave: Oh sorry did I forget to mention that I like two strokes? :headbang:

[FzerozeroT]

your "n00b movements" that were "upsetting the bike" is actually a mark of how much twichier and responsive to input a 150 is over a 250. I went from a KR150 to an RGV250 and although the RGV does feel faster and smoother in the corners it doesn't have the same feel of 'if something goes wrong i'll be able to avoid it' as the KR did.

[Sniper]

There is nothing wrong with 2 strokes mate. I owned an RG400 and that was a great bike, I wish I still had it. I see what you are saying by asking about cornering performance and the difference in dirt bikes ect.

Road and dirt bikes main simularity is that they both have 2 wheels. After that they branch off on different tracks. I once had a MotoX racer tell me that in dirt bike riding, there are so many different skills to road riding. The main one is, you can always notice a seasoned MotoX/Dirt rider when he moves to a street bike. They are the only ones who will put their foot out around a corner. As for cornering, you mate has an NSR, of course its going to be faster and corner better, thats what it is built for.

Ride safe mate and don't worry about how fast the others are going, just plan on getting there ON the bike.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah, at the end of the day the NSR was a 250 proddy racebike for the road. It was fitted with stiff frame great suspension & modern wheels & tires.

Your bike, let’s face it, is built to a lower price by quite a considerable margin & hence it isn’t going to handle go or stop as well. You pays your money & all that.

But as above, don’t despair. Spending time on small bikes perfecting riding technique is likely to help your riding more than being on something with enough power to make you lazy. Ride safe.

[Pixie]

How many KBers who where priviledged enough to own two strokes over 250cc still think they are among the more enjoyable bikes they owned?

[Ixion]

How many KBers who where priviledged enough to own two strokes over 250cc still think they are among the more enjoyable bikes they owned?


Yep. T500 was a real good un. The 350 yammies were brilliant too.

[F5 Dave]

My RZ350 was grouse fun. Should have made a TZR400 or 500 twin withmodern suspension brakes etc

[Smorg]

:eyepoke: two strokes rock mate dont know what your unhappy about if you dont like it you can always get an FXR then weigh up the kind of performance you get outta that compared to the RG

[nudemetalz]

How many KBers who where priviledged enough to own two strokes over 250cc still think they are among the more enjoyable bikes they owned?

I miss my old RZ500. Now that was a 2-stroke..
Used to foul the odd plug around town, never got out of first gear down Colombo Street (ChCh)....used fuel and oil at an alarming rate but WHAT A SOUND !!! V-4 2 stroke sound can't be beaten !!!!

damn, whats that mess on the carpet under me....??!!

[SlowHand]

Oops seems I upset a few people. To clarrify, I do love my bike, and 2 strokes are damn fun. the devil comment was made by my wallet mostly. The gas it chews, oil it requires, and the subsequent repair/maintenance on the engine.

But all that aside, it brings a big grin to my dial!

[Beemer]

Oops seems I upset a few people. To clarrify, I do love my bike, and 2 strokes are damn fun. the devil comment was made by my wallet mostly. The gas it chews, oil it requires, and the subsequent repair/maintenance on the engine.

But all that aside, it brings a big grin to my dial!

What the hell are you doing to it if it costs you heaps of money and needs repairs all the time? I had an RG150 for four years, did around 23,000kms on it and it was only towards the end that the power valve started giving me trouble - until then it was a dream. I regularly topped it up with oil after a ride (or during a long one) but that's just what you do with a two stroke like that. As for chewing through gas - I won the 0-250cc class in our club's economy run with mine, got about 23kpl from memory, which I didn't think was too bad. And it never had any work on the engine and I used to ride it virtually every day.

If anyone was going to wreck an RG150 you'd expect it to be a learner rider as I was when I bought it, but it served me very well and is still going today. I thought it was the most fun bike I'd ever ridden until I bought the Goose.

[diesel pig]

How many KBers who where priviledged enough to own two strokes over 250cc still think they are among the more enjoyable bikes they owned?

My RZ350 was cool as and handled pretty good for a early eigthies machine.
My 1971 T350R Rebel is a life affirming machine with it's evil sounding induction howl, won't be riding it chch to dorkland and back again anytime soon mine you. That seat was made for one hour max! ;)

[SlowHand]

well Im getting 150km to $15-16. Ive been riding it hard with no repairs yet - only been 2weeks, however a leak has emerged and it will go into the shop soon. Supposedly power valve gasket or something...

[Ixion]

well Im getting 150km to $15-16. Ive been riding it hard with no repairs yet - only been 2weeks, however a leak has emerged and it will go into the shop soon. Supposedly power valve gasket or something...

Around 40mpg. Sounds about right for a twosmoker ridden hard.Maybe a bit on th ehigh side, but it does depend on how much you weigh on a small bike.

[k14]

My RZ350 was cool as and handled pretty good for a early eigthies machine.
My 1971 T350R Rebel is a life affirming machine with it's evil sounding induction howl, won't be riding it chch to dorkland and back again anytime soon mine you. That seat was made for one hour max! ;)
What about your TZR250?? Oh yeah thats right, you were too soft to ride that. :apumpin:

[Madmax]

I love the big bore 2stroke bikes H1/H2s and the like
:love:

[diesel pig]

What about your TZR250?? Oh yeah thats right, you were too soft to ride that. :apumpin:
All that eduaction and your basic comprehension is crap! nudemetalz asked about bikes over 250cc! and I only bought the TZR for parts :calm: for me :whocares: for you

[avgas]

Dont loose hope little Kerosene Cowboy, the RG has alot of potential in that little pony.
If you want to improve the handling, they were actually designed to be commuters. So you need to get say $2 (max), change it to 20c pieces, then preload the forks to your liking (also drop them so the sit 15-30mm from the top of the stantions.
Also by the sounds of things your bike it running a bit rich for standard form. Powervalves/Carb could be the problem....but i guess its the plug fouled. Get and iridium one, as they pay themselves back 10 fold in singles.
The RG (E/ES? RR?) motor is also setup so it will have a 'casual' powerband round 6-8K - use this round town/cruising to get round 200+k/12L tank.
The other powerband is round 10K+, this is the one you race your mates in. Soon as you drop below 10K you will loose craploads of power.....but above it you can still scare the crap out of the big bore bike :apumpin:
I still miss my RG.....but alas poor Yorick...its was not ment to be

[ZorsT]

well Im getting 150km to $15-16. Ive been riding it hard with no repairs yet - only been 2weeks, however a leak has emerged and it will go into the shop soon. Supposedly power valve gasket or something...
I rode my bike REALLY hard for the last tank and hit reserve at 198.7km

have you had the powervalves serviced? or do you know the powervalves are okay?

when I first started riding, I was too timid to use full throttle up around the 10k RPM mark

If you are riding with full throttle most of the time and you have been riding for two weeks, your powervalves might be poked

If they are okay, I think you might want to get onto a racetrack..... :cool:

don't worry about riding it hard, its made for it :D

[NSR-Dan]

2 strokes kick ass

thats all i have to say

[Magua]

2 strokes kick ass

thats all i have to say

This thread has been dead since the 12th. Why resurect it?

[Motu]

My old TM/TS 400 was a cuddly old bear - that could slice you down the middle in a split second if you didn't hold it on a choker.I've ridden a few MX bikes in the 250 to 500 range that make your eyes as big as saucers and your hands can't stop shaking - a dead give away that you just shit yourself.Literaly - they leave you speachless....

My DT230 has done 25,000km,some of that off road,and has never been apart...it goes like a ginger tom with a turps enima and I ride it like I stole from outside a cop shop,it revitalises me and puts a spring in my step....I feel 30 yrs younger when I ride it.My biggest worry with it,and I remember I felt the same way with the TM400 - is that it will light up the rear wheel,step out,then bite and toss me off.On the back roads I ride sometimes coming out of a turn on a brow very hard the bike gets very light,if I spin up there I think disaster is not far away....2 smokes don't hold a slide,they snap back into traction with a bang.The only thing to wear out is rings and pistons,bottom ends for half a doz top ends,rev them till the stop - no valves and springs,all those dumb things are gone.

A road racer puts out more power than an MXer,because the dirt bike makes power over a wider rev range,watch the MotoGP 125s and 250s,they are just nailed the whole way,revs only varying by 1000rpm max,an MX bike will go from 10,000 to 5000 and back to 10,000rpm in a second,and do it all race.

[Motu]

This thread has been dead since the 12th. Why resurect it?

Get with the game boy! It's resurect the dead thread week - see how many you can bring back to life by this time tomorrow.

[Ixion]

2 strokes kick ass

thats all i have to say


I second that . Two smokers rule , OK

[John]

I second that . Two smokers rule , OK
I third that, having sex with donkeys rules. OK?

[Ixion]

ONLY if the donkeys have nice tits. It's OK for you scrubbers but we decent folk have standards to maintain.

[SlowHand]

I third that, having sex with donkeys rules. OK?

How many? i find it changes with number. Kinda like 15m or something being the scariest height.

I need help - realised the other week warming up in the gargre that I loiked the smell of the bike. Im Strat and Im a Ringading holic

[John]

ONLY if the donkeys have nice tits. It's OK for you scrubbers but we decent folk have standards to maintain.
HEY HEY HEY NOW I HAVE MY STANDARDS, BUT DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT YOUR MOTHER LIKE THAT? I MEAN SERIOUSLY IXION, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?

ninjaedit: anyways, If its got a hole I am in it :drinkup:

[Mooch]

How many KBers who where priviledged enough to own two strokes over 250cc still think they are among the more enjoyable bikes they owned?

Really enjoyed owning a Kawasaki Kr1 250 with S pipes and the rest spend mega dollars rebuilding the engine and it had immaculate bodywork. Had 34,000 kms of shear bliss. Thought about keeping it, but hit resistance with the WTF (wife tolerance factor)
She didn't like the idea of 3 cars and 3 bikes in the garage. :crybaby:

[Ixion]

..
ninjaedit: anyways, If its got a hole I am in it :drinkup:

Front, back, or who cares? I know guy called Bubba who'd like to meet you

[John]

Front, back, or who cares? I know guy called Bubba who'd like to meet you
I'm free some time in a couple of weeks, should I bring the KFC?

[inlinefour]

Kinda wish I still had it to play on. If anyone knows of a cheapish RD,RZ or RG minimium of 250cc please give me a PM. Cash is in the bank just waiting...
(just dont tell the misses) :shutup: