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TerminalAddict
12th October 2005, 09:19
Started work this morning, and like many mornings I was busy :whistle:
and stumbled acros this thread:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=18434
The reply posted by vifferman (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=373968&postcount=3) reminded me of something I have been meaning to post.

2 weeks ago I bought a new virago, and on sunday I took it out (between storms) for about 3 hours.
Wandered around north waikato for about an hour, then headed over the divi to raglan.
The road to raglan has *some* twisties, but is mostly a a 100+ drive, however, being a learner the order of the day was 95kms/hr ride ;)

On one corner, right hand bend, probably marked as 85kms (I didn't notice) I felt the bike running REAL wide.
Classic noob I look at where I was going to crash, and went for t he brake.
In a split second (before I reached the brakes) I was reminded of something:
this post: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=365571&postcount=21
I re-adjusted my vision :) pointed my chin at the exit to the corner, and magically I was riding round it ....

DUDE !!!!! this rocks ... few seconds to let the heart settle down back to normal pace, then think to myself .. fucking crashe !!! you rock (and eveybody else who mentors us wee folk)

So this is a big "FUCK YEAH" to crashe :thumbs: saved my skin once .. and valuable lesson learnt
:not: :not: :not:

bugjuice
12th October 2005, 09:21
good on ya.. yeah, just look where you want to go, ignore where you don't want to go. That's all that matters

Sniper
12th October 2005, 09:22
Well done mate. And well done Crashe.

Ride safe out there guys.

TonyB
12th October 2005, 09:26
Good on ya mate! If you can force yourself to ignore your survival reactions and do what needs to be done simply because you read it, then you will go far as a rider.

And well done crashe! Your post may have saved his life....

Uncle B
12th October 2005, 09:27
Well done dude and well done to those who give out sound positive advice.

We all look out for each other. I often give advice to the newer riders, sort of watch their backs so to speak.....nothing worse than seeing one of our brothers/sisters going down

Good on you KBrs

Smorg
12th October 2005, 09:28
:niceone: YEah i wish i read that thread before i started riding could have saved myself a busted up elbow and a fucked 250 :calm: well done that post

vifferman
12th October 2005, 09:38
Well done dude and well done to those who give out sound positive advice.
I'm amazed!
Some bullshit I just plucked out of the air proved to work, by some fluke. :confused:
Good advice too, crashe (hadn't read it before); crusiers tend to have more rearward weight bias than sprotsbikes, more rake/trail and whatnot (hence rear brakes tending to be more effective than those on sprottybikes), but the physics are still the same, and you still go where you look.

TerminalAddict
12th October 2005, 09:45
I'm amazed!
Some bullshit I just plucked out of the air proved to work, by some fluke. :confused:
Good advice too, crashe (hadn't read it before); crusiers tend to have more rearward weight bias than sprotsbikes, more rake/trail and whatnot (hence rear brakes tending to be more effective than those on sprottybikes), but the physics are still the same, and you still go where you look.

I'm amazed that somehow while my heart was pounding, and my veins are pumping so hard they want to jump out of my body, I still managed to think about something I read on a website :blink:

vifferman
12th October 2005, 10:09
I'm amazed that somehow while my heart was pounding, and my veins are pumping so hard they want to jump out of my body, I still managed to think about something I read on a website :blink:
That's left brain stuff: the rational part of your brain thinking, analysing, etc. Things get good when your riding in right-brain mode, and corners flow together, you react without seeming to think about it (right brain is non-language stuff), and feel like you're "in the zone". Takes practise, experience, and son on to get there, with you riding thinking about what you're doing, applying what you know and overcoming bad habits/thinking, then eventually you establish good habits and can stop over-analysing and thinking and just go with the flow.

crashe
12th October 2005, 10:30
Your most welcome...

And keep that bike up.... and let your eyes take you where you need to go.

Next time I am down the Waikato area... we must meet up. :spudwave:

TerminalAddict
12th October 2005, 10:39
once I get brave enough I'll ride to work :) (in auckland) but that southern motorway is some scary shit :P

Storm
12th October 2005, 10:41
All hail Crashe, fountain of wisdom :not:

crashe
12th October 2005, 10:42
Southern Motorway is easy as mate...

Just go for it.... but take it easy when lane splitting.

Maybe ride up on your day off.... to get the feel of the motorway riding.

TerminalAddict
12th October 2005, 10:47
on the upside.
when winding thru the twisties (which are almost all marked as 35kms/hr) I dropped the bike into 3rd, and to about 55kms/hr.

leant bike left and right, and tweaked the throttle on each apex just enough to get a second long "Baaarp" from behind me :)

cruised through the windy bits, had a great time, and even left the cars behind for dust, without even trying.
To be honest, I was a bit nervous, being followed by 3 cars as I entered the windy bit, but I thought to myself .. this road is mine, just as much as it thiers. So I positioned myself so they couldn't push past me, and dropped down to 55.

when i came out the otherside, the cars were gone :) .. but caught me again just as I came into raglan.

Felt good tho' :)

left .. baarp .. right ... baarp .. (repeat x10)

TerminalAddict
12th October 2005, 10:51
Southern Motorway is easy as mate...

Just go for it.... but take it easy when lane splitting.

Maybe ride up on your day off.... to get the feel of the motorway riding.

1. might skip the lane splitting for a while .. you Aucklanders are a bit crazy :weird:

2. My thoughts exactly .. go for a weekend cruise to auck's to get the feel :)

Virago
12th October 2005, 11:03
Often as a noob (and sometimes as a not-so-noob), you can make a real hash of a new set of twisties. It feels good when you ride that road again and get every corner spot-on.

The real ecstacy comes from riding a new road, and getting the line through each corner perfect.

Well done that man.

fishb8nz
12th October 2005, 11:04
Hi TA (Pukete guy here),
Best to let cars through while you're still a noobie. Feeling pressured by following traffic doesn't improve the riding. Pull over and let them get a fair bit ahead. As you've shown, you can catch them up but better to be cautious and in control than letting others ditate how you want to ride.

Great ride on the back road to Waignaro and Glen Massey and back to Ngaruawahia and Whatawhata. (other than a short bit of gravel).

Good bit of recovery.

Waylander
12th October 2005, 11:11
Hmm.... Might have to give the Raglan run a go this friday. Good onya for remembering a good bit of advice.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who enjoys that "Baaarp" on the corners, only problem with my bike is recently it's added it's own "pow!" on the end. Need a tune-up.

marty
12th October 2005, 11:47
had the same experience on a 'busa yesterday - was going a bit quicker though. 'trust the tyres and ground clearance' i was telling myself - 'don't look at the ditch/bank/guard rail - that'll hurt WAY too much' :)

that was out back of clevedon/ardmore/maraetai/whitford etc.

Mrs Old Farts
12th October 2005, 11:54
Thats some dam good advise, I had real problems turning tight corners until i was taught to look completely round to where you wanna go and hey presto no more falling off :niceone:

MissSniper
12th October 2005, 11:59
Being new to riding, I find that all the advice I recieve is valuable. Everyone offers their own opinionated veiw and I take it all in and make it suit me. Never give up listening to advice because the day you do if the day you fall short.

crashe
12th October 2005, 12:02
Being new to riding, I find that all the advice I recieve is valuable. Everyone offers their own opinionated veiw and I take it all in and make it suit me. Never give up listening to advice because the day you do if the day you fall short.


Welcome MissSniper.... good to see you finally out there riding...

MissSniper
12th October 2005, 12:11
Welcome MissSniper.... good to see you finally out there riding...

Thank you, I havent got my licence yet but I ride up and down the driveway and sniper pillions me to quiet streets with some corners so that I can learn.

Mrs Old Farts
12th October 2005, 12:23
Welcome miss sniper, i have only just got my learners also, Two days ago in fact, and like you my other half used to ride my bike to my work where i could ride round the building and as it has four corners i learnt to do the corner thing but so far have only been out once on the road last night so was able to get it out of second gear for the first time, :sweatdrop and realised that i really can ride and i take all the adivse i can get to stay safe and keep enjoying the experience of riding my own bike. Kelv also rides behind me and out from me to protect me somewhat from cars behind me and to beep when i forget to turn my indicator off :argh: something i do often (buggar) but keep it up, i never thought i would do this at all and now im loving it and so is Kelv as he gets to ride his alone also.