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Hubris
2nd April 2018, 14:49
I've just finished putting on a tail tidy and while the plate and plate light and indicators are all happy and legal, I'm at a bit of a quandary on the best way to display the rego and WOF. The dealer originally mounted it perpendicular to the plate under a reflector - you couldn't see it without walking up to a stopped bike and looking. With my tail tidy I don't have an obvious mounting point like this. It'll be unattractive (and put the rego holder at risk) to have the rego sticking up from above the plate as wind would eventually vibrate and weaken it.
I see a vendor has a little tube (http://www.bikestore.co.nz/pics/full/1269.jpg) in which you could roll your rego and presumably mount from the bottom of your plate. I've seen at least one version of my bike using something like this out on the roads. The downside would be greater weight and stress on my plate itself.
Does the rego need to be always visible like the plate, or does it need to be presentable on request (ie tucked away but able to be pulled from behind the plate on demand)? How do you display yours?
HenryDorsetCase
2nd April 2018, 15:06
mine is stuck to the left hand side of the rear tyre hugger on my bike. WOF is bolted to the number plate
jellywrestler
2nd April 2018, 15:27
what does the road code say?
Possibly more importantly, if you park in a public area in the Auckland council area can the label be easily seen by a parking warden?
Hubris
2nd April 2018, 16:40
The road code only states:
In addition to the warrant of fitness, a motorcycle must display a current licence label and a number plate on the back that can be clearly seen.
admenk
2nd April 2018, 17:47
Have mine above the chain guard on the left hand side on a couple of bikes, in one of those tube things. So far, there's never been any negative issues with it :woohoo:
Laava
2nd April 2018, 17:52
Possibly more importantly, if you park in a public area in the Auckland council area can the label be easily seen by a parking warden?
Yep it is all about the parking wardens, other than that you may as well put it under your seat. I have been asked for mine once in the last 25 yrs by the popo and do not go to town so, no issue for me, under the seat it goes.
However if you get pulled and fail the attitude test, you may be up for failing to display... your call.
Swoop
2nd April 2018, 19:17
Possibly more importantly, if you park in a public area in the Auckland council area can the label be easily seen by a parking warden?
The fat cunts need the exercise of bending over.
Bolt it to the back of your plate along with the W.o.F and let the fatties bend over. Hopefully they'll twist as well and injure themselves. (We really need a "stabbing" emoticon to use here)
rastuscat
2nd April 2018, 19:19
what does the road code say?
It doesn't count. It's not law.
rastuscat
2nd April 2018, 19:23
Different laws for WoF and licence label.
WoF must be displayed where it's clearly visible.
Lic label must be displayed where it's clearly visible AND adjacent to the licence plate.
Different clauses of different laws.
Who knew.
AllanB
2nd April 2018, 21:16
I found some years back they got more excited about a lack of rear facing red reflector than where the rego label was on a tail tidy.
Hubris
2nd April 2018, 22:17
Reading the NZTA standards, I do need to add a reflector as there must be a red, non-tape based reflector visible from 100m. Seems a little odd given the number of active running and other lights in the rear, but I guess it would help if the bike were off. Anyone willing to hazard a guess whether reflective plate bolts (https://tstindustries.com/images/D/10044_License-Plate-Reflector-Mounts_Detailed-Images-1.jpg) would qualify?
98tls
2nd April 2018, 23:40
Reading the NZTA standards, I do need to add a reflector as there must be a red, non-tape based reflector visible from 100m. Seems a little odd given the number of active running and other lights in the rear, but I guess it would help if the bike were off. Anyone willing to hazard a guess whether reflective plate bolts (https://tstindustries.com/images/D/10044_License-Plate-Reflector-Mounts_Detailed-Images-1.jpg) would qualify?
No it wont,that said from experience what does qualify is buy a ridiculous pushbike reflector cut it in 1/2 and attach to your motorcycle,sad but true.
98tls
2nd April 2018, 23:46
I found some years back they got more excited about a lack of rear facing red reflector than where the rego label was on a tail tidy.
:clap: That to is sad but true,often wondered who comes up with such things,to stupid to be idiots.
jellywrestler
2nd April 2018, 23:53
It doesn't count. It's not law.
shouldn't the road code show the requirements within the laws?
98tls
3rd April 2018, 00:04
shouldn't the road code show the requirements within the laws?
:rolleyes::killingme Ridiculous surely.
shouldn't the road code show the requirements within the laws?
Ideally, the road code should explain clearly in common English what the legislation says and then have links to the actual legislation...
But then, perhaps, I'm expecting too much...
Hubris
3rd April 2018, 09:00
Since a plastic reflector is required and there is no appropriate place on the tail, it seems I'm going to need to drill a hole in the bottom of my plate and mount the reflector from my stock fender, and then buy and affix the 'tube' wof/rego holder to the reflector mounting bolt, hanging below the reflector.
Not the most attractive solution; I hate poking new holes in my plate, and the more weight hanging off the plate the more likely the plate itself will fatigue and break - but I'm not immediately seeing any other ways I can comply. Evidently this is how we get heavy and ugly fenders we all want to replace....because they give room to mount reflectors and lights and a myriad of paper.
Does a car require a red passive reflector on the rear, or is this limited to motorcycles?
AllanB
3rd April 2018, 09:12
Does a car require a red passive reflector on the rear, or is this limited to motorcycles?
They are built into their tail lights.
Make up a bracket from some sheet alloy to hold the reflector and rego - you'll be able to run it down from the number plate mounts and behind the plate. Paint it black.
AllanB
3rd April 2018, 09:23
I knew I'd seen something - a bit like this example below but adapted to suit your tail tidy and ride.
I've always made my own tail tidies but when I got the Ducati I shouted myself one - I should have just made one again as I ended up modifying it so much to suit what I wanted :(
Swoop
3rd April 2018, 14:34
...who comes up with such things,to stupid to be idiots.
Obviously "politicians".
GazzaH
3rd April 2018, 19:21
Worse: committees.
Ginge09
3rd April 2018, 21:37
I just stick my rego label on the back of the licence plate with 3M double sided foam tape. Looks nice and tidy and doesn't mind getting wet.
Mind you, I don't have a tidy tail thingy.
eldog
3rd April 2018, 22:17
I have seen the little tubes, which look nice, crack and break.
i did think about using this same device, but after seeing one fall off on a, dare I say it, group ride. I decided against it.:whistle:
PistonBlown
3rd April 2018, 22:39
Different laws for WoF and licence label.
WoF must be displayed where it's clearly visible.
Lic label must be displayed where it's clearly visible AND adjacent to the licence plate.
Different clauses of different laws.
Who knew.
Bugger, I thought the licence label just had to be "close to" the number plate not adjacent, have both attached to my swinging arm. Mind you, when I was stopped at a checkpoint the cop seemed happy enough with their position when he checked them.
AllanB
3rd April 2018, 22:40
but after seeing one fall off on a, dare I say it, group ride. I decided against it.:whistle:
Clearly the rego holder was under pressure to keep up on the group ride and fell off. Inexperienced individual components on your motorcycle can fail under this type of pressure.
I have seen the little tubes, which look nice, crack and break.
i did think about using this same device, but after seeing one fall off on a, dare I say it, group ride. I decided against it.:whistle:
Fair enough. My anecdotal experience was different - so far, 17,000 kms with these Tard-Me-purchased holders (on three bikes). So, they worked for me.
russd7
4th April 2018, 18:51
Fair enough. My anecdotal experience was different - so far, 17,000 kms with these Tard-Me-purchased holders (on three bikes). So, they worked for me.
yes but possibly yours had more training and went to riding scool so that they would never fail and not feel the need to keep up therefor not crack under pressure while on a group ride and so not fall off
caspernz
4th April 2018, 19:07
The missing element is the rabid dog, for it will come and bite the damn holder clean off...and then run away with your rego label, now rendered void on account of teeth puncture marks :wacko:
Honest Andy
4th April 2018, 19:15
The missing element is the rabid dog, for it will come and bite the damn holder clean off...and then run away with your rego label, now rendered void on account of teeth puncture marks :wacko:
Yeah, sorry about that. My dog isn't actually rabid, just well trained...
(regos so expensive!)
eldog
4th April 2018, 21:11
Yeah, sorry about that. My dog isn't actually rabid, just well trained...
(regos so expensive!)
I did stop and pickup said rego and holder.
so a dog did pick it up, no, not rabid.
enquired about rider, got postal address and sent it off:woohoo:
was originally told not to worry as replacement rego stickers are cheap.
It hadn’t been to rider school, but observed good riding practise and kept up with the group.
Holder looked like it was reasonably new and had become brittle.
Couple of things I learnt that day:
-make sure labels are visible and secured, so loss is minimised and hassles reduced.
-really difficult to park bike on back country roads in middle of nowhere, without chance of getting run over.
-hard to keep up once you have stopped and left the group.
russd7
4th April 2018, 21:48
I did stop and pickup said rego and holder.
so a dog did pick it up, no, not rabid.
enquired about rider, got postal address and sent it off:woohoo:
was originally told not to worry as replacement rego stickers are cheap.
It hadn’t been to rider school, but observed good riding practise and kept up with the group.
Holder looked like it was reasonably new and had become brittle.
Couple of things I learnt that day:
-make sure labels are visible and secured, so loss is minimised and hassles reduced.
-really difficult to park bike on back country roads in middle of nowhere, without chance of getting run over.
-hard to keep up once you have stopped and left the group.
its ok as long as you go round corners at or below posted advisory speed and put your foot down whilst braking on the front wheel. nothing you can do about them dogs though, they gonna get ya regardless therefor causing a no fault loss of rego holder
WALRUS
6th April 2018, 17:44
I see a vendor has a little tube (http://www.bikestore.co.nz/pics/full/1269.jpg) in which you could roll your rego and presumably mount from the bottom of your plate. I've seen at least one version of my bike using something like this out on the roads. The downside would be greater weight and stress on my plate itself.
Does the rego need to be always visible like the plate, or does it need to be presentable on request (ie tucked away but able to be pulled from behind the plate on demand)? How do you display yours?
In Tassie, I used to use one of those rego tubes. Some traffic cops would say they were illegal, some couldn't care less. On my R6 there was a bolt on the tail fairing which I just put it on but these days we don't have to show rego in this state any more. Mr Plod just points his fancy camera at any numberplate and instantly knows if it is registered or not, who its registered to, and what their history is haha
336023
(Forgive the tacky, chinesium "bling"... I don't know what came over me but I'm better now)
I liked how it looked compared to a large plastic rectangle with a label in it but yeah, I'm glad I don't have to have any rego on display any more
R650R
4th June 2018, 11:29
On the DR I use the double sided tape that VTNZ supplies FREE of charge and stick it on rear fender above number plate. The label and the sticky tape survive multiple bike washings and all elements of weather.
VTNZ also supply FREE the aluminium label holders.... so no excuses guys really...
I find 12 months later the label peels off cleanly from the plastic, sometimes little glue gum remains but cleans off easily....
As for reflectors picture this. You stop on a remote road in darkness. For whatever reason the gods decide your taillight and or other lights have failed, perhaps you've even crashed and lying on the road next to your bike...
A truck is coming down the highway behind you, he's 12 hours into a 14 hour day on the fitth day of his 70 hour week... His windscreen is covered in shite... as he crests the brow of the hill at 94km/h at 48 tonnes his headlights pick out your regulation sized square reflector, his brain automatically processes this familiar object and he iniatiates emergency braking and manourvoures around you....
But hey feel free to not be like everyone else and fit something not quite as easily recognised by the brain as a known hazard indicator...... Coming back from evening walk at friends place other week I wa sstrcuk by just how effective reflectors on back of car were....
WALRUS
4th June 2018, 11:58
But if I use normal reflectors, how else is everyone going to know my bike is Italian!?
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R650R
4th June 2018, 14:42
[QUOTE=WALRUS;1131100260]But if I use normal reflectors, how else is everyone going to know my bike is Italian!?
[QUOTE]
By seeing you broken down trying to fix the electrics lol
WALRUS
4th June 2018, 14:57
^ Fair play
Olrider
4th June 2018, 16:07
I use one of the tubular holders you mention (about $8 from China - or $70 here),it fits nicely on the back of the plate and seems to cause no stress to the mount/tail tidy.
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