Well wouldn't this make motorcycling much more fun

[neels]

70kmh on pretty much every road in the country seems like an idea that isn't likely to find much support......

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/102760031/is-100-kmh-too-fast-landmark-report-wants-70-kmh-open-road-speed-limit

[EJK]

Yep, now they are really pushing into bubble wrap territory.

Might as well ban all cars and make drivers license illegal, because they cause people to drive, which is "lethal".

[Scubbo]

probably get a lot more falling asleep at the wheel crashes on those long straights :yawn:

[jasonu]

70kmh on pretty much every road in the country seems like an idea that isn't likely to find much support......

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/102760031/is-100-kmh-too-fast-landmark-report-wants-70-kmh-open-road-speed-limit


Well if NZ'ers weren't such shit drivers ideas like this wouldn't come up.

Taken from todays NZ Harold.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12024895
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12024962
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12024934
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12025056

[TheDemonLord]

I drove on the 110 Kph section of the Waikato Expressway the other day.

Apparently it must have been some form of Miracle that I didn't spontaneously explode into a massive fireball....

In other news 70 Kph would be so unbearably tedious that I'd probably end up having an accident to relieve the boredom...

[AllanB]

Heading down to Arrowtown a couple days before new years at Christmas towing a trailer loaded with camping gear (460 kms) my average speed would have been low. Probably half of that distance would have been at 80 due to the amount of traffic on the roads. And we witnessed some pretty stupid driving even at that speed, so I doubt lowering in in the proposed manner would have any change to the annual road toll.

The authorities obsession with speed is rather remarkable and in total ignorance of the shitty condition of a lot of our roads, or shitty drivers on the roads.

It was 80 on the open road when I started riding way back in 1980 (due to a global fuel crisis if I remember?) but the cops were good bastards and just gave you a warning most of the time if you were doing 100-110 instead of 80. I think they just enjoyed getting to stick the boot down on the old Holdens and flash the lights.

[AllanB]

Well if NZ'ers weren't such shit drivers ideas like this wouldn't come up.

Taken from todays NZ Harold.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12024895
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12024962
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12024934
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12025056


So clearly the decades of waging war on speed is not working and it may actually be another issue that is killing people?

[AllanB]

Also I am thinking that some of the issue may actually be the super safe (?) modern cars with all their luxury extras.

Any new car advert over the past few years mainly wank on about safety (number of air-bags) and fancy electronic extras, blue-tooth this and that, heated seats, park control, anti lock this and that, the vagina in a dashboard accessory - this type of thing. People have been conned into thinking that all these features make them immune to serious harm.

The the demise of the family sedan being replaced by the urban wanker truck has added to this feeling of road superiority. The urban 4WD driver around Christchurch and the South Islands open road is a self-centered fucktard of extreme proportion regardless of gender.

[Moi]

A piece of Brussell's Sprout being reported in our media... why? Answers below in publishable language...

I thought NZTA and MoT were already reviewing maximum road speeds for our roads.

[Moi]

Also I am thinking that some of the issue may actually be the super safe (?) modern cars with all their luxury extras.

Any new car advert over the past few years mainly wank on about safety (number of air-bags) and fancy electronic extras, blue-tooth this and that, heated seats, park control, anti lock this and that, the vagina in a dashboard accessory - this type of thing. People have been conned into thinking that all these features make them immune to serious harm.

The the demise of the family sedan being replaced by the urban wanker truck has added to this feeling of road superiority. The urban 4WD driver around Christchurch and the South Islands open road is a self-centered fucktard of extreme proportion regardless of gender.


I suspect that there is a huge element of truth in what you say...

though when a so-called motoring journalist writes like this - VW ute (http://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/reviews/the-grand-canyon-volkswagen-s-new-amarok-ute-tested/) - you start to see why many 4x4 drivers are so "entitled" when driving... just watch a few in a supermarket carpark.

[Voltaire]

I suspect that there is a huge element of truth in what you say...

though when a so-called motoring journalist writes like this - VW ute (http://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/reviews/the-grand-canyon-volkswagen-s-new-amarok-ute-tested/) - you start to see why many 4x4 drivers are so "entitled" when driving... just watch a few in a supermarket carpark.

That's right, I've never seen an entitled motorcycle rider :rolleyes:

The speed limit for motorcycle in Vietnam is 6oKPH, seemed plenty between Saigon and Hanoi two up on a Honda Fighthawk ( 150cc of

awesomeness), we don't talk much about it as rule #1 of Fighthawk club.

[EJK]

On a semi-related note, I read a comment on one of the news articles saying police are not doing their job etc...

Since when did we solely depend our lives to NZ Police? Is it too hard to be responsible for our own lives? :scratch:

Lately I see a lot of comments such as:
Government not giving enough benefits/ houses
Hungry kids at school
Poor road conditions and road deaths...

I mean, can't we even take care of ourselves? If times are tough you budget, set priorities and make necessary sacrifices. I do that, and we all go through tough times. If road is bad you drive to the condition. No full-time job and steady income? Find a temporary/ casual to mend, yet gaining experience for next better step. Whatever the situation is just get off the computer and do something! Unless you have no arms and legs, which seems like most NZ keyboard warriors are.

Has NZ become a spoon-fed society that can't do anything but to whine and cry like a 2yo baby when they can't get what they want for free?

Too much blame and less responsibility.

[AllanB]

I mean, can't we even take care of ourselves?

Has NZ become a spoon-fed society that can't do anything but to whine and cry like a 2yo baby when they can't get what they want for free?




Yes we have. I think the first time I heard the term 'Nanny State' was under Helen Clark?

Add to the list dairy owners in Auckland wanting the Government to do something about the robberies they have been having. Now it's a sad thing being robbed for cigarettes at knife point but I fail to understand what the NZ Government is supposed to do? I know how about every pack of fags having a user coded small explosive inserted within - you get the code on proof of purchase, open the packet without and the fags go up in flame (ironic).

[Swoop]

This is what happens when you let loose retarded fucknuckle cuntbrains wearing "hi-Viz everything" and holding "compliance" type seance sessions.

"Speed" isn't an issue. EVER.

Drive / ride to the conditions.



FFS, Queensland has 60kmh around residential areas and 110 freeways.


Now it's a sad thing being robbed for cigarettes at knife point but I fail to understand what the NZ Government is supposed to do?
"jacinda'll fix it".
Along with poverty, housing, wages, pollution, global warming...

[AllanB]

Dang - another one today ........

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/one-dead-after-wellsford-crash/ar-AAvosDn?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=mailsignout

[Voltaire]

According to wiki.


Half of the world's road traffic deaths occur among motorcyclists (23 percent), pedestrians (22 percent) and cyclists (5 percent) – i.e., "vulnerable road users" – with 31 percent of deaths among car occupants and the remaining 19 percent among unspecified road users.[3]

Adults aged between 15 and 44 years account for 59 percent of global road traffic deaths. Seventy-seven percent of road deaths are males.[3]

Opportunity for over 44 year old female taxi drivers there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

[AllanB]

According to wiki.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate


Need more info - mainly what percentage of the worlds 'traffic' is motorcycles, cars, taxis etc. I should look it up - I'm thinking motorcycles will be way up there due to hundreds of millions of Asians and the likes relying on small motorcycles as primary transport.

[FJRider]

Drive / ride to the conditions.


This is the bit many simply don't get. The only bit they DO understand is that if they are 4 km/hr over the limit they might get a ticket.

With four inches of snow on the road or pissing down rain ... they're sitting at the limit.



But in ALL the adds on tv ... the 100 km/hr speed sign is prominent. And that's the bit they remember.

[Scubbo]

... With four inches of snow on the road or pissing down rain ... they're sitting at the limit . cause the limit is still the artificial cap shirely.... :weird:

https://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/4885/43ae81e6a04c407f9f2def162beb2632.gif

[caspernz]

Meh, we've got as much chance of getting a 70 km/h national limit as wildly higher driver licensing standards. Political suicide either way. Baby steps will have to do...:shutup::innocent:

[nerrrd]

I remember when...the limit was 80kph, the road toll was a lot higher then wasn't it :laugh:

If the traffic in Auckland can't cope with the 80kph limited sections on the motorway (you really have to be careful if you don't want a ticket not to be run over from behind by either SUVs or double cab utes, neither of which will slow down for anybody) good luck with this.

Around town here it might as well be 30-40kph, there's so many slow drivers already.

Anyway it was an international report, mostly just an opportunity for discussion.

[AllanB]

The only bit they DO understand is that if they are 4 km/hr over the limit they might get a ticket.



What - it's a limit, not a get there as quick as possible target?

[Scuba_Steve]

Why have speed changes, why not just make everything 50km/h?
That way no-one will ever have to think ["what speed is this road"]

[Wannabiker]

[QUOTE=nerrrd;1131091963]I remember when...the limit was 80kph, the road toll was a lot higher then wasn't it :laugh:


Yep.. in 1973 the speed limit was 80km/h and that years road toll was a record 843. In 1985 the speed limit was raised to 100km/h and the road toll dropped to 747. Therefore showing a 20km/h raising of the speed limit saved almost 100 lives. We could further reduce the road toll by raising the limit further.

From the Transport website, using the 1973 figures that accident rate would now be 1900 people annually (given the population increase and number of cars on the road)...

[Woodman]

Why does it take an international study to come to the obvious conclusion that if everyone drove modern safe cars at a maximum 70km/HR that the road toll will come down.

[Grumph]

There is a potential danger here as I see it. The Govt is talking about the lower limits being required on "local roads" ie - not State Highways.
These are maintained by councils. The limits are set by councils.
If a council can see a way to save money on maintenance by lowering the limit on a road, does anyone want to bet they won't lower the limit ?

Locally the SDC has been using working parties to try and decide on lowering limits on some rural roads for a while now. This is a council who own some of the longest, straightest roads in NZ. It's also a council who have probably the worst maintenance record of any in NZ.

I can see my trip to town - on, yes, a long straight road, currently about 75km of it in 100kph zones, being turned into purgatory fairly soon.

[Voltaire]

[QUOTE=nerrrd;1131091963]I remember when...the limit was 80kph, the road toll was a lot higher then wasn't it :laugh:


Yep.. in 1973 the speed limit was 80km/h and that years road toll was a record 843. In 1985 the speed limit was raised to 100km/h and the road toll dropped to 747. Therefore showing a 20km/h raising of the speed limit saved almost 100 lives. We could further reduce the road toll by raising the limit further.

From the Transport website, using the 1973 figures that accident rate would now be 1900 people annually (given the population increase and number of cars on the road)...

I wonder if that had anything to do with seatbelts:


Feb 9, 2015 - Cars registered after January 1, 1965, had to be fitted with front seatbelts, but it wasn't compulsory to wear them until 10 years later. Between times, New Zealanders either wore them, sat on them, or left them dangling from a hook on the B-pillar. From January 1, 1975, occupants up front by law had to buckle up.

The road toll is also probably lower due to advances in car design emergency and medical services too.
I went for a ride in a mates MK3 Zephyr a couple of years ago, at 100KPH it sort of wallowed around the bends...I was glad to get out.

[Taxythingy]

... the vagina in a dashboard accessory...

Sorry officer, I crashed the ute after reading this comment on my phone and hunting for it. Not my fault, really. :innocent:

[russd7]

It was 80 on the open road when I started riding way back in 1980 (due to a global fuel crisis if I remember?) but the cops were good bastards and just gave you a warning most of the time if you were doing 100-110 instead of 80. I think they just enjoyed getting to stick the boot down on the old Holdens and flash the lights.

not in the BOP they weren't, The MOT were pricks, especially the one in Te Puke, he gave me a ticket and made me push my bike home for no rear vision mirror and the broken mirror and bits of glass were in the the tool pouch on the back of my old XR250, then another ticket i got was deserved at 110 in an 80, I was on my way to a wedding in rottenrua and was running late but fair cop it was, but i asked for directions to the church and when i came out here he was sittin across the road from the church then he followed us round to the after function venue.

[russd7]

add to the drop in speed limit a 10 cent rise in fuel tax, add goat shit tax and that becomes 11.5cent increase to build more cycleways. fuckem, start makin them user pay

[eldog]

Hasn’t anyone else noticed the ‘temporary’ limit of 80, during roadworks on a 100 kph road, suddenly becomes permanent.:ar15:

[AllanB]

add to the drop in speed limit a 10 cent rise in fuel tax

Yes, just saw our politicians on TV explaining how the extra 10c tax will result in a lower road toll.

[eldog]

Yes, just saw our politicians on TV explaining how the extra 10c tax will result in a lower road toll.

Maybe we should tax It like cigarettes and tobacco? At the same rate.:devil2:

Err aren’t we already doing that?

[rastuscat]

[QUOTE=nerrrd;1131091963]I remember when...the limit was 80kph, the road toll was a lot higher then wasn't it :laugh:


Yep.. in 1973 the speed limit was 80km/h and that years road toll was a record 843. In 1985 the speed limit was raised to 100km/h and the road toll dropped to 747. Therefore showing a 20km/h raising of the speed limit saved almost 100 lives. We could further reduce the road toll by raising the limit further.

If only it were that simple. A lot of things have changed and led to the decrease in fatalities, not just the speed limit.

[granstar]

The old speed excuse, maybe some attention to impatience and fucwits, maybe more traffic :Police: may assist?

[jellywrestler]

Well if NZ'ers weren't such shit drivers ideas like this wouldn't come up.

yes and last year they were desparately short of people dying on the roads so included a m/c racer who died at a closed road street race event over that weekend, media hype, there are a few normal two day weekends that have this score during the year, i think we did well this easter

[pritch]

Well if NZ'ers weren't such shit drivers ideas like this wouldn't come up.

Taken from todays NZ Harold.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12024895
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12024962
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12024934
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12025056

Well there's a thing. Cars have got better and roads have got better but the drivers? Not so much. It was interesting that the PM actually acknowledged on the news last night that there are factors other than speed involved.
Quite radical really. /sarc

There is a limit to the roading changes though, we've got a lot of roads for the size of the population.

[pritch]

The speed limit for motorcycle in Vietnam is 6oKPH,.
Things might well have changed since I was there, but back then achieving 60kph would have been a minor miracle.

[Swoop]

Meh, we've got as much chance of getting a 70 km/h national limit as wildly higher driver licensing standards. Political suicide either way. Baby steps will have to do...:shutup::innocent:
Sadly not. We have the leftist / eco-mentalist approach of "saving the planet" through greenhouse taxes, carbon taxes, etc, so we will see more push for this sort of thing. Get used to cycling to work while wearing your hemp-based suit.

There is a potential danger here as I see it. The Govt is talking about the lower limits being required on "local roads" ...

If I'm away from home, then the roads are not "local" so I'll go fucken' fast!
Sadly, nipping down to my local dairy will take longer than a vegan trying to find a restaurant that suits its "lifestyle".

[AllanB]

Word on TV this morning was the 70km speed limit paper release is a decoy to take the heat off the 12c per l fuel increase.

Saw the PM struggling with this subject this morning. I was happy to give her a go, but of late I find her increasingly unconvincing in her position as party leader and PM.

I don't give a F about Womans Weekly articles or the young family that have just purchased her house for 1.2 million.

[Grumph]

If I'm away from home, then the roads are not "local" so I'll go fucken' fast!
Sadly, nipping down to my local dairy will take longer than a vegan trying to find a restaurant that suits its "lifestyle".

Why did you bother to quote me when your response was so far off the point. Or do you have a local council who actually spend money on the "local roads" ?

[jasonu]

Word on TV this morning was the 70km speed limit paper release is a decoy to take the heat off the 12c per l fuel increase.

Saw the PM struggling with this subject this morning. I was happy to give her a go, but of late I find her increasingly unconvincing in her position as party leader and PM.

I don't give a F about Womans Weekly articles or the young family that have just purchased her house for 1.2 million.

Only another 2 3/4' years to go.

[roogazza]

its easy money for a govt, just increase by 12 cents !! We already pay about 98 cents in tax for every litre. don't read too much fake news, it just pisses you off.

[Grumph]

its easy money for a govt, just increase by 12 cents !! We already pay about 98 cents in tax for every litre. don't read too much fake news, it just pisses you off.

What pisses me off about the media beat up on petrol price is that the Auckland specific fuel tax doesn't even bring Auckland prices up to South Island norms.
I'm all in favour of Auckland prices going up - they can subsidise the rest of the country thanks.

[Voltaire]

Hard being in Government, everyone complains when you appear to do nothing, then complains when you do as it has a cost.

What passes as a Media don't help, making lead stories out of nothing.

I'm happy to pay an extra tax if they can reduce the congestion. Maybe a huge tax on new/used imported cars.

[Voltaire]

its easy money for a govt, just increase by 12 cents !! We already pay about 98 cents in tax for every litre. don't read too much fake news, it just pisses you off.

98 cents.....? sounds like fake news to me :laugh:


59.524 cents - National Land Transport Fund
6 cents - ACC Motor Vehicle Account
0.66 cents - Local Authorities Fuel Tax
0.3 cents - Petroleum or Engine Fuels Monitoring Levy

In addition, GST is collected on the overall price of fuel including excise. The GST on excise amounts to a 10 cents per litre "tax on taxes".

There are no excise taxes on diesel other than 0.33 cents Local Authorities Fuel Tax, and GST. Instead, diesel vehicles pay Road User Charges. All fuels also pay an Emissions Trading Scheme levy (approximately 3 cents per litre).

[jasonu]

Hard being in Government, everyone complains when you appear to do nothing, then complains when you do as it has a cost.

What passes as a Media don't help, making lead stories out of nothing.

I'm happy to pay an extra tax if they can reduce the congestion. Maybe a huge tax on new/used imported cars.

It’s even harder being government when you do unpopular things that just a few months ago you promised not to do.

[Voltaire]

It’s even harder being government when you do unpopular things that just a few months ago you promised not to do.



Why do government's need to be popular, its not a reality show. Its like Parents trying be best friends with their kids.

Is the desire to get voted back in mean sitting on your hands for 3 years?

[roogazza]

98 cents.....? sounds like fake news to me :laugh:

lol, so about that with the 12 cents on top then ? don't know where I plucked my figure ? :shutup:

[pritch]

I don't give a F about Womans Weekly articles or the young family that have just purchased her house for 1.2 million.

How do you even know about that? You've gotta stop reading that women's stuff. :whistle:

[Jeff Sichoe]

Moving at more than 5kph is inherently dangerous as our bodies are not designed for impact at higher speeds.

So, with that in mind, how about those women in high office fuck off trying to tell me how the fuck to live my life.

Most people are good folk (tm) but we shouldn't all be held accountable for their others actions. Ban bad drivers, mandatory tourist temp license tests, whatever - but don't fuck with my freedom to move at speed. You might not like it, but I don't like half the crazy shit people get up to these days. Doesn't mean i'm going to break down and tell them it's now illegal.

"The rate of newly diagnosed HIV infections was stable at around 100 annually through the late 1980s and the 1990s but rose sharply from 2000 to 2005. It has since stabilised at roughly 200 new cases annually. Male-to-male sexual contact has been the largest contributor to new HIV cases in New Zealand since record began in 1985."

HIV kills heaps of people (decreasing with time but still over 100 people per year) and it's mainly due to gay sexual conduct so when are we going to ban that?

Ischaemic heart disease (joint)
Suicide (male) / Breast Cancer (female)
Lung cancer (male) / Cerebrovascular disease (stroke) (female)
Cerebrovascular disease (stroke) (male) / Lung cancer (female)
Motor vehicle accidents (male) / Colorectal cancer (female)

When was the last time you went to Maccas and the lady looked at you and said 'nah mate you don't need this burger go get a salad'? That's right it doesn't happen because that would be fucked up and take away your personal freedom.

Why is it different for the roads? Some people are just fucking idiots but i'm not going to live my life by restrictions that should be placed on THEM and not ME.

Fucking government telling the whole country how to live based on the bad decisions caused by the minority, get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

[TheDemonLord]

Moving at more than 5kph is inherently dangerous as our bodies are not designed for impact at higher speeds.

So, with that in mind, how about those women in high office fuck off trying to tell me how the fuck to live my life.

Most people are good folk (tm) but we shouldn't all be held accountable for their others actions. Ban bad drivers, mandatory tourist temp license tests, whatever - but don't fuck with my freedom to move at speed. You might not like it, but I don't like half the crazy shit people get up to these days. Doesn't mean i'm going to break down and tell them it's now illegal.

"The rate of newly diagnosed HIV infections was stable at around 100 annually through the late 1980s and the 1990s but rose sharply from 2000 to 2005. It has since stabilised at roughly 200 new cases annually. Male-to-male sexual contact has been the largest contributor to new HIV cases in New Zealand since record began in 1985."

HIV kills heaps of people (decreasing with time but still over 100 people per year) and it's mainly due to gay sexual conduct so when are we going to ban that?

Ischaemic heart disease (joint)
Suicide (male) / Breast Cancer (female)
Lung cancer (male) / Cerebrovascular disease (stroke) (female)
Cerebrovascular disease (stroke) (male) / Lung cancer (female)
Motor vehicle accidents (male) / Colorectal cancer (female)

When was the last time you went to Maccas and the lady looked at you and said 'nah mate you don't need this burger go get a salad'? That's right it doesn't happen because that would be fucked up and take away your personal freedom.

Why is it different for the roads? Some people are just fucking idiots but i'm not going to live my life by restrictions that should be placed on THEM and not ME.

Fucking government telling the whole country how to live based on the bad decisions caused by the minority, get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

I've got a lot of sympathy for the Libertarian perspective, I also have sympathy for the necessity of a set of rules, to have a functioning Society.

I'm okay with having a speed limit, I have issues with it being made a scapegoat because a lot of our major aeterial Roads are single lane, undivided shite (among other things).

[roogazza]

I was just thinking (do that from time to time !) I turn 69 next Tuesday, what is a good age to just stop paying speeding tickets like fuckwits do apparently.
I can easily become a fuckwit and toat up a huge backlog of fines .How long before I get sent away for a holiday ? Wonder how I would be treated ? :laugh: :bleh: :msn-wink:

Anyway , I don't believe speed limits will be dropped to 70kph ,it's just fake News ! :rolleyes:

[jasonu]

Why do government's need to be popular, its not a reality show. Its like Parents trying be best friends with their kids.

Is the desire to get voted back in mean sitting on your hands for 3 years?

If they want to be reelected being popular really helps.

[Swoop]

Why did you bother to quote me when your response was so far off the point.
It was your reference to "local roads".


What pisses me off about the media beat up on petrol price is that the Auckland specific fuel tax doesn't even bring Auckland prices up to South Island norms.
Since you wanted to live in a scenic paradise with empty roads, you pay more for petrol because it has to be transported to those locations. "User pays" is the term, apparently.
Auckland has a pipeline direct from the refinery (when some yokel hasn't fucked it with his digger...).


I'm happy to pay an extra tax if they can reduce the congestion.
You already are.
There have been previous tax hikes to "fix Auckland's traffic". It just proves how badly managed they wasted those dollars.

[Jeff Sichoe]

technically labour weren't elected they just strung together the biggest group of losers so popularity doesn't seem to factor.

[Voltaire]

It was your reference to "local roads".



You already are.
There have been previous tax hikes to "fix Auckland's traffic". It just proves how badly managed they wasted those dollars.

I think the Waterview Tunnel has made the traffic flow better, I did not use the motorway from Highbrook to Penrose for a couple of years and now i use it daily. Use the suitably battle scarred van now as I'm over larry lane changer Tommy tailgater and Texting Twats.

When working in town use the bus lanes, and if I have to look presentable take the train.

Hardly what I would call wasted.

[rustys]

I was just thinking (do that from time to time !) I turn 69 next Tuesday, what is a good age to just stop paying speeding tickets like fuckwits do apparently.
I can easily become a fuckwit and toat up a huge backlog of fines .How long before I get sent away for a holiday ? Wonder how I would be treated ? :laugh: :bleh: :msn-wink:

Anyway , I don't believe speed limits will be dropped to 70kph ,it's just fake News ! :rolleyes:

roogazza....about 69 and a half, if you start now acumulating fines you should be sent to prison at about 80, which will be great because you will be better cared for, good meals, free lodgings, no bills, and better of than these poor old bastards in Rest Homes and retirement villages getting ripped off and abused by there unqualified carers, sound good.:bye:

[roogazza]

roogazza....about 69 and a half, if you start now acumulating fines you should be sent to prison at about 80, which will be great because you will be better cared for, good meals, free lodgings, no bills, and better of than these poor old bastards in Rest Homes and retirement villages getting ripped off and abused by there unqualified carers, sound good.:bye:

Hey, just in jest but maybe I'm onto something? :lol: :rolleyes:

[Grumph]

roogazza....about 69 and a half, if you start now acumulating fines you should be sent to prison at about 80, which will be great because you will be better cared for, good meals, free lodgings, no bills, and better of than these poor old bastards in Rest Homes and retirement villages getting ripped off and abused by there unqualified carers, sound good.:bye:

Yeah, been considering that answer myself actually. I see on another forum that an 80plus year old in the UK has killed an intruder - and been arrested.
Opinion is divided as to whether he should be commended - US style - or congratulated for having avoided the rest home.

[Scuba_Steve]

Since you wanted to live in a scenic paradise with empty roads, you pay more for petrol because it has to be transported to those locations. "User pays" is the term, apparently.
Auckland has a pipeline direct from the refinery (when some yokel hasn't fucked it with his digger...).


'Cept that has little to do with the way petrol is priced... It's more to do with "there's not much choice so we can rape them", or "they can afford to pay more so lets rape them"

[pritch]

I can easily become a fuckwit and toat up a huge backlog of fines .How long before I get sent away for a holiday ?


Nah. I had dealings with a hit and run through work. The Police were glad to get the complaint, "We've been after him for a long time". So they charged him with failing to keep left.:rolleyes:
When I asked what happened at court I was told he failed to appear and the new fine was added to the $6,000 that he already owed - and wasn't paying.

A solicitor of my acquaintance was saying one of his clients owed over $10,000 in accumulated fines. Mostly no warrant or Rego etc, apparently they rack up quickly, but his client didn't click that his shit box car is like a magnet to a bored cop.

When a judge does put someone on PD to work off the fines, if you divide the amount owed by the hours awarded you could be forgiven for thinking the guilty party was a heart surgeon.

[Swoop]

Hardly what I would call wasted.
However they continue to gather the $$$'s from the last price hike, and now return to increase that amount again.
Double-dipping?

[granstar]

Hey, just in jest but maybe I'm onto something? :lol: :rolleyes:

Just don't drop the soap.