Get off your bloody phone

[tigertim20]

I know most of us have had run ins or close calls with assholes on their phones while they drive.

well SADD (Students Against Dangerous Driving) Are doing 'Phone Free 48', a fundraiser to raise awareness of the dangers of texting while driving,

Basically, encouraging people to go 48 hours without their phones (think 48 hour famine, but without your favourite device)

All money raised will go towards the SADD charity continuing to deliver road safety programs to teens in schools. You can encourage your kids / friends to take part, or you can sponsor some of the people doing it.

Link to 'Phone Free 48' http://phonefree48.org.nz/

heres a link to the donation pages for some of those taking part if you want to donate:

https://phonefree48challenge.everydayhero.com/nz/piper-s-phone-free-48

https://phonefree48challenge.everydayhero.com/nz/alex-goes-phone-free

https://phonefree48challenge.everydayhero.com/nz/phone-free-for-safety

https://phonefree48challenge.everydayhero.com/nz/sadd-phone-free-for-48-hours-caitlyn-jenkins

https://phonefree48challenge.everydayhero.com/nz/lets-gooooooooo

Maybe we can encourage a few idiots to put their phones down, even if just for a couple days

[GazzaH]

I still like the idea of persuading the people they are talking to, to say "Hey, are you driving? Call me later, idiot!" <Click> <Bzzzzzz>:shutup:

[Voltaire]

I think its too late, we are addicted to them, walking across roads, cycling with earphones, on the train ( me included).

I live on a busy road and the other day I did a 5 minute survey looking down on the passing cars doing stop start up the street.

One in three were playing with their phones.

When I scoot into the city I see a lot of it too in slow moving traffic, tinted windows are good if you do it a lot.:innocent:

Solution..... jammers fitted to cars.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/mobile-phones-cars-block-ban-moving-vehicles-government-technology-a7483871.html

https://cdn.memegenerator.es/imagenes/memes/full/9/63/9631741.jpg

[GazzaH]

Phones with GPS could be excluded from the networks when moving along known highways.

Phones without GPS could be flagged when moving between cell sites at anything above walking, jogging or cycling pace.

People using their phones while crossing roads are Darwin award candidates and should be encouraged.

[AllanB]

I'm sure there is very cheap simple devices that could be fitted to vehicles to create a car dead spot while you drive.

[GazzaH]

Technically possible, yes.

https://youtu.be/pZnzp4ip5lI

Oh by the way, it's terminal. Also fries your bike's electronics, your own cellphone, ABS controllers and robot drivers.

A similar device can also be flown through cities ...

https://www.boeing.com/features/2012/10/bds-champ-10-22-12.page

Not cheap though.

[MarkH]

Solution..... jammers fitted to cars.


I have bluetooth pairing fitted to mine. If the phone rings, I can press a button on my steering wheel and then talk to someone while driving normally.

On the motorbike I go with "fuck 'em, I'll worry about it when I stop (or not)".

At work - mostly my phone stays in my pocket, I don't need to spend several hours every day looking at it.

I think that people reading and replying to texts while driving are the worst, why can't those cunts just check their texts later?

[Scubbo]

having to keep up with a conversation and whats happening is hard, not everyone is a longbow pilot.... best to leave it all off and focus on the ride

[neels]

I like the idea, but would much prefer if it was 48 hours starting 8am Monday morning, would be a great excuse for some peace and quiet for a change. I can quite happily leave my phone sitting somewhere in the house and forget about it in the weekend, so in that respect I'm probably not the target audience.

Have bluetooth in the car now so can answer or not as I see fit, after I turned off the auto answer on the stereo, almost very embarrassing but thankfully they talked first.....On the bike the phone gets put away, and I look at it when I can be bothered, which at times can be once the bike is safely parked back in the garage again.

I really don't understand what's so important that you need to be texting while driving, but I guess my life isn't particularly interesting so that might be why I don't get it.

[Oakie]

Seen many things being done by drivers in my time ... all the normal silly stuff ... but yesterday for the first time EVER ... I saw a woman brushing her teeth while driving!

[AllanB]

Some cunty cunt dressed as a gay on a pushbike almost collected me today as he cycled and txt.

[R650R]

Remember back in the day when before phones you still got cut off just as much by people not paying attention.... it’s nothing new....

[Voltaire]

Remember back in the day when before phones you still got cut off just as much by people not paying attention.... it’s nothing new....

Yeah, but horses were a bit like a self drive car :lol:

[rastuscat]

Remember back in the day when before phones you still got cut off just as much by people not paying attention.... it’s nothing new....

Amen.

Not that I agree with phone use while driving.

1973 was our worst ever road toll. 843. No phones back then.

[Owl]

I think its too late, we are addicted to them

You're right, but not all of us. My entire mobile phone bill last year was $2.73, though of course that left me with $17.27 unused and needing a top-up.

Amazes me at work though during smoko when everyone has their face buried in a screen for 20 minutes. Once upon a time we actually used to talk.:facepalm:

[tigertim20]

1973 was our worst ever road toll. 843. No phones back then.
and no airbags
and no abs brakes
and shitty tyres
and around the time when seat belts werent compulsory
etc
etc

You're right, but not all of us. My entire mobile phone bill last year was $2.73, though of course that left me with $17.27 unused and needing a top-up.

Amazes me at work though during smoko when everyone has their face buried in a screen for 20 minutes. Once upon a time we actually used to talk.:facepalm:
I dunno if things have really changed much at all. When I was younger it was a race to the smoko room to get the most desirable section of the newspaper to bury your nose in on your break.

No different in my experience

[Owl]

When I was younger it was a race to the smoko room to get the most desirable section of the newspaper to bury your nose in on your break.

No different in my experience

Fair enough, but I come from a background of panel beaters and painters. We never got beyond tool brochures.

[YellowDog]

If any of you saddos have a FARCEBOOK account, check out this very recent 'Not paying attention' Auckland video:


https://www.facebook.com/avishes/videos/10211820707978425/

<iframe width="815" height="585" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fIyAzF1O6JA" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[jasonu]

Amen.

Not that I agree with phone use while driving.

1973 was our worst ever road toll. 843. No phones back then.

Prolly more to do with being asphyxiated by those leaky old pommy shit boxes.

[Voltaire]

Prolly more to do with being asphyxiated by those leaky old pommy shit boxes.

and a skin full of the weasel piss DB or Lion Red:puke:

[Voltaire]

If any of you saddos have a FARCEBOOK account, check out this very recent 'Not paying attention' Auckland video:


https://www.facebook.com/avishes/videos/10211820707978425/

I'm shocked, an Indian who can't spell Khyber Pass properly.:innocent:

[Viking01]

Why just Auckland?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/105707547/why-cant-we-get-tougher-on-auckland-motorists-using-mobile-phones

But, first things first.

The first question has to be "Is this an actual problem, and one worthy
of our attention (plus time and resources) to address ?".

My feeling is "Yes", but in absence of published data (on road death or
injury crashes at least) to substantiate this position, I'm probably on
soft ground.

I'm not aware that Police officers attending a crash scene are required
to determine (and record) whether the use of a mobile phone was a
contributing factor to a crash.

Suspect that this may not even be physically possible, due to either
driver injury or to lack of driver willingness to admit the circumstances.

Data collated for / by MOT does not appear to break out "mobile phone"
as a separate factor. Choose any month from the following link, and look
at the data break-down.

https://www.transport.govt.nz/resources/road-safety-resources/roadcrashstatistics/monthlyoverviewofcrashstatistics/

And if you can't measure it, you can't then easily estimate a social cost.


But for argument sake, let's just assume mobile phone usage contributes
to "poor driving behaviour" as well as to "near-miss and actual crashes"
(to a sufficient level warranting some attention).

When out on my limited travels, I see at least one instance a week of
"poor driving behaviour" due to mobile phone usage.

It's always puzzled me why seemingly sensible people feel this need to
risk their own life (and those of their passengers) to answer a call or to
text while driving. Not to mention others travelling in their immediate
vicinity.

I can understand that picking up and answering a phone call is probably
some type of unconscious reaction (like responding to a crying baby).
Takes some conscious willpower not to respond immediately. [Ignore
hands-free for the moment]

But reading or writing a text on a mobile phone while driving in traffic ?

If you asked offenders "would you be prepared to close your eyes, and to
continue driving eyes-closed in busy traffic for (say) 5 seconds", suspect
the answer would probably be 'No".

But given that such drivers probably drop their phone down onto their lap
and look down when texting, I struggle to see any appreciable difference
between the two scenarios.

I could criticise younger generations, as being more "wedded" to the use
of mobile phones. You only have to watch people walking around the city,
head down and mobile phone in hand, and not looking where they're going.
But suspect the "using a mobile phone while driving" issue is probably non-
generational.

I can understand that:

- Crackdowns by Police for short periods may not be a good use of their
resources, nor drive any long term improvement in driver behaviour.
- The offender has to be caught in the act in order to be prosecuted in
some way.
- Introduction of fixed surveillance cameras around a city for monitoring
may not be a necessarily desirable outcome, either for its citizens (for
reasons of civil liberty), or for government administrators (simply too
expensive to implement and manage).

But surely, we have not lost our creativity and our ability to address this
situation in some combination of ways. I am sure there are other options.

Example:

1. Initial driver education (at the time of up-front learning or training) ?

Maybe car driving instructors and testers should insist that students should
take their mobile phones with them and leave their mobile phones on while
receiving instruction, and any attempted phone pick-up is an "instant fail".

2. Ongoing driver education (via periodic media programmes) ?

If we can do it with advertisements like "Ghost Chips" for drink driving.

Maybe mobile phone usage while driving does not rank anywhere near as
highly (in terms of perceived social cost)?

3. Increased penalties for offenders (whether poor driving or crash related) ?

Is an $80 fine plus a few demerit points really a serious deterrent, and going
to promote a change (improvement) in driver behaviour ? I seriously doubt it.

Maybe the question is then: If you won't change your behaviour for reasons
of personal safety, what type of penalty (and how high) needs to be applied ?

4. Temporary confiscation of the mobile phone for a limited period as well ?

Administration and security could be a challenge. Certain industries might
be affected more heavily (e.g. couriers).

Would you go out and replace a phone in the interim, and risk re-offending ?

5. Development of a portable pouch containing materials resisting transmission
of mobile phone frequencies (e.g. tin foil or metal mesh, as per a Faraday
cage) into which the mobile phone could be placed while driving ?

For those who are simply resistant to turning their phones off while driving.


Maybe we have already tried, failed, and relegated this situation to the
"too hard basket" ?

Or don't we care sufficiently ? And we are willing to just leave it up to the
individual (personal responsibility) ? It's just that I'd just prefer not to get
cleaned up by a driver who "doesn't care". Selfish, I know.

Disclaimer: Do I turn off my mobile phone when driving ?

No. But I don't pick up either. No call pickup is worth my life. Any calls
go through to the mailbox.

[pritch]

"Suspect that this may not even be physically possible, due to either
driver injury or to lack of driver willingness to admit the circumstances."

If they have the time of the accident and the phone number they can tell if the driver was on a call at the time. This has been used in the past although it may not be routine.

[rastuscat]

I have bluetooth pairing fitted to mine. If the phone rings, I can press a button on my steering wheel and then talk to someone while driving normally.

On the motorbike I go with "fuck 'em, I'll worry about it when I stop (or not)".

At work - mostly my phone stays in my pocket, I don't need to spend several hours every day looking at it.

I think that people reading and replying to texts while driving are the worst, why can't those cunts just check their texts later?

Cogntitive distraction is not solely the preserve of texting drivers.

Hands free bluetooth is no safer than hands-on phone use.

https://www.nsc.org/Portals/0/Documents/DistractedDrivingDocuments/Cognitive-Distraction-White-Paper.pdf

Out handset law totally misses the point.

Don't get me started on the touch screen in cars, and even the TFT screens on new motorcycles.

[Scuba_Steve]

Hands free bluetooth is no safer than hands-on phone use.


In some cases worse some studies have shown, as alot of cars have things like road noise going on so the brain has to spend more CPU power deciphering the wanted sounds from the ambient noise.
Kinda like how it's easier to read the central word in this
http://images.clipartpanda.com/trust-clipart-7331043-TRUST-Word-collage-on-white-background-illustration--Stock-Vector.jpg

Rather than this
https://d3mybowqzhpktj.cloudfront.net/www.senioradvisor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/20115149/big5.png

[Daffyd]

People using their phones while crossing roads are Darwin award candidates and should be encouraged.

Just yesterday when I was delivering Miss 13 to school a stupid woman steeped out in front of us. She was walking at about a 45° angle so basically had her back to us. Never even glanced up from her 'phone. Would have been an easy target had I not taken evasive action.

Trouble is there's a stupid law here that states the bigger vehicle is always at fault, unless you can prove differently. Eg, truck at fault in a car vs truck, car at fault in a car vs motorcycle, motorcycle at fault in a m/c vs pedestrian. This is why dash cams are selling like hot cakes atm.

[Daffyd]

I'm sure there is very cheap simple devices that could be fitted to vehicles to create a car dead spot while you drive.

IMHO a high pitched, feedback type squeal would be more effective.

[Daffyd]

Amen.

Not that I agree with phone use while driving.

1973 was our worst ever road toll. 843. No phones back then.

We did have RT's though. Back in the 'day', 70's-80's, most tradies had RT's in their vans, and used them all the time. I guess it wasn't as dangerous then as speeds were lower and there was considerably less traffic on the roads.

[Viking01]

Cogntitive distraction is not solely the preserve of texting drivers.
.....
Don't get me started on the touch screen in cars, and even the TFT screens on new motorcycles.

OK, I won't get you started ...... ;)

I know that there are plenty of other driving behaviours that rank higher
in terms of potential risk (e.g. drink driving ; running orange or red lights ;
tail-gating ; not staying in lane ; risky overtaking).

But for some reason, "using a mobile phone while driving" has been one that
has always niggled me. Maybe because we're often enclosed by other traffic
when this happens, and are compelled to have to follow the person for some
distance while they weave their merry way. Thus compounding the situation.

The only reason for mentioning it is that barely an hour after having read
the article, I had a gentleman whizz through a round-about across in front
of me from my left while busily chatting on his mobile phone. Seemingly
oblivious to the world in general.

The first point he looked to his right was when he was actually entering
the intersection itself. No risk of collision on this occasion, as I'd already
seen what was likely to (and did) happen, and had already delayed my
entry into the round-about.

It just seems such a totally unnecessary risk to take while driving. And
one that is quite easily avoidable.

And I was curious whether TPTB had already judged it to be "too hard to
enforce". Even so, why the seemingly low penalty ?

[Honest Andy]

We did have RT's though. Back in the 'day', 70's-80's, most tradies had RT's in their vans, and used them all the time

Mine never seemed to work very well after lunch on Fridays for some reason :whistle:

[Daffyd]

Mine never seemed to work very well after lunch on Fridays for some reason :whistle:

Funny that... Mine neither.

[Graystone]

Amen.

Not that I agree with phone use while driving.

1973 was our worst ever road toll. 843. No phones back then.

Without phones I guess everyone had to drive home so they could swipe right and post tweets, all the rushing and frustration, no wonder the road toll was so high.

[PrincessBandit]

I went to try turning the volume up to hear my google maps instructions getting from one relatively unkown part of the city to another (phone was sitting in between passenger and drivers seat) and I accidentally managed to call emergency services! Hastily pulled over to try and end the call before it was answered. Still got an immediate call from them asking what my emergency was. Must admit I mumbled about accidentally activating the service (certainly did not mention it was while I was driving!!) :thud::o

[FJRider]

I went to try turning the volume up to hear my google maps instructions getting from one relatively unkown part of the city to another (phone was sitting in between passenger and drivers seat) and I accidentally managed to call emergency services! Hastily pulled over to try and end the call before it was answered. Still got an immediate call from them asking what my emergency was. Must admit I mumbled about accidentally activating the service (certainly did not mention it was while I was driving!!) :thud::o

Give yourself an infraction for that. Maybe a few weeks with a pink tinge on your computer/phone screen.

[FJRider]

Mine never seemed to work very well after lunch on Fridays for some reason :whistle:

My phone was 10 years old when I got it ... 10 years ago (for $10).

The fact that it still works is surprising enough ... without any other factors involved ... but it WAS cheap.

[Fresh Oats]

Ehh I dunno. I've never really had an experience of drivers near missing me while on their phones.
All the near misses I've had have all been because the car hasn't been able to see me (or didn't have a good enough look more likely) past another car and have pulled out infront of me.
But even this you can see coming if you look for the driver. If you can't see the driver, chances are they can't see you.

That's not to say it's not a problem. But some stats would be interesting.

[Berries]

But some stats would be interesting.
Good luck with that. Some drivers do admit that they were distracted by their phone, either talking on it, texting on it or trying to find it under the seat. Most would rather blame the big black dog that ran out or the possum that caused them to swerve, or the car coming the other way that crossed the centreline and then mysteriously vanished. Or the bee. It would only be a relative handful of crashes where the Police go looking for phone provider data.

A number of countries like NZ bottomed out with the road toll a few years ago and have been rising since. A commonly held view is that it is the increasing use of cell phones that is behind it. Probably some truth to it when you think about it.

[pritch]

I had a small excitement on my moped heading home for lunch one day. I did write it up previously but it fits here.

A woman in a Remuera tractor pulled out of a side street, she immediately crossed on to my side of the road and accelerated straight toward me. She was looking down at her lap. Whether she was fiddling with her phone or scratching her snatch I couldn't say. I was eyeing the kerb but it was one of those large square section kerbs and I was just starting to think, "this is going to hurt", when she looked up and yanked the wheel.

Fuck her, whatever she was doing.

[Moi]

... Fuck her, whatever she was doing.

I'm guessing you're speaking figuratively...

Better for her and her like... a ducking stool in the village pond :yes:

[pritch]

I'm guessing you're speaking figuratively...


I guess. If she'd hit me I could'a been fucked.

[Black Knight]

I heard from a pretty reliable source recently that Auckland Police are having a crackdown on drivers using cellphones to talk and text.
It seems that it has finally got through that inattention is causing accidents (didn't take long did it)-Instuctions have come down from on high that every patrolling officer is expected to issue a minimum of one ticket a day to offending drivers.Could be interesting.

[GazzaH]

I vaguely recall from an unknown and probably unreliable source that the main issue with cellphones is mental distraction, not so much the act of looking away from the road at the screen.

[pete376403]

I vaguely recall from an unknown and probably unreliable source that the main issue with cellphones is mental distraction, not so much the act of looking away from the road at the screen.
So why doesn't the stereo /radio / passenger talking cause the same level of distraction? How is a cop able to use the RT without being similarly distracted?

[granstar]

"Suspect that this may not even be physically possible, due to either
driver injury or to lack of driver willingness to admit the circumstances."

If they have the time of the accident and the phone number they can tell if the driver was on a call at the time. This has been used in the past although it may not be routine.

Young lady 19 in her prime known to my daughter driving a car went through a bridge fence barrier then submerged into the water. The deceased's phone was in her hand when divers extracted her, certainly a wake up call to a lot of people.

[rambaldi]

I vaguely recall from an unknown and probably unreliable source that the main issue with cellphones is mental distraction, not so much the act of looking away from the road at the screen.

That seems like it may have been the case back when calling was all a phone could do. And then there was texting, but most teenagers could do that blindfolded on the old button based phones. These days its all the facebooks and the twitters and the instagrams where you need to look at the screen to get your dopamine hits.

[FJRider]

So why doesn't the stereo /radio / passenger talking cause the same level of distraction? How is a cop able to use the RT without being similarly distracted?

You can operate the stereo without looking at it. You can talk/listen to your passenger without looking at them. Some Police can operate the RT without looking for the button on the hand held mike ... ;)

Perhaps a phone app for blind people that speaks any texts so you don't need to look at the screen to read or send them. Hands free texting ... what could possibly go wrong ... ??? :calm:

[skippa1]

You can operate the stereo without looking at it. You can talk/listen to your passenger without looking at them. Some Police can operate the RT without looking for the button on the hand held mike ... ;)

Perhaps a phone app for blind people that speaks any texts so you don't need to look at the screen to read or send them. Hands free texting ... what could possibly go wrong ... ??? :calm:
It already exists

[Scuba_Steve]

So why doesn't the stereo /radio / passenger talking cause the same level of distraction? How is a cop able to use the RT without being similarly distracted?

Most people don't really listen/concentrate to the radio it's just background noise
Passengers can be as bigger distraction (or even bigger with kids) but they also have the ability to see what's happening & so can adjust the conversation accordingly like waiting for response without getting impatient because of the extended silence or waiting to start talking until after a manoeuvre is performed & the driver requires less concentration on the road
As for the cop, I don't know why you'd think them less distracted? A legislation doesn't change distraction level just wether or not that distraction is lawful. Fun Fact: You can still read a paper while driving*

[rastuscat]

There are several categories of distraction. The current law seeks only to deal with manual distraction.

Cognitive distraction is the real killer.

[granstar]

Most people don't really listen/concentrate to the radio it's just background noise
Passengers can be as bigger distraction (or even bigger with kids) but they also have the ability to see what's happening & so can adjust the conversation accordingly like waiting for response without getting impatient because of the extended silence or waiting to start talking until after a manoeuvre is performed & the driver requires less concentration on the road
As for the cop, I don't know why you'd think them less distracted? A legislation doesn't change distraction level just wether or not that distraction is lawful. Fun Fact: You can still read a paper while driving*

And practice your drumming.:banana:


.....That's a bad spell of weather ...Whether you meant a ram or billy goat that was castrated at a young age?

[Murray]

GET OFF YOUR PHONE

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/106009880/exposed-by-text-driver-admits-causing-motorcyclists-death-in-crash

Hope she gets what she deserves

A teacher should know better

[Pound]

GET OFF YOUR PHONE

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/106009880/exposed-by-text-driver-admits-causing-motorcyclists-death-in-crash

Hope she gets what she deserves

A teacher should know better


Lying old Hag!

"When she spoke to the police, McGirr denied being distracted. She thought the motorcycle had come into her lane and she was taking evasive action to avoid hitting it."

[YellowDog]

Lying old Hag!

"When she spoke to the police, McGirr denied being distracted. She thought the motorcycle had come into her lane and she was taking evasive action to avoid hitting it."

Hopefully, she will lose her job also. Some farkin low life unable to accept responsibility for her reckless actions.

The bitch killed someone ferfuxake :shit:

[GazzaH]

Cognitive distraction is the real killer.

Same thing, I guess, with newbie/learners (and returning bikers, like me) having to concentrate on the mechanics of driving, balancing, changing gear, braking, complying with the road rules And All That ... as well as wot that idiot pulling out of a side turning is doing, or whether that horse is spooked enough to jump into my path, or "Golly, that smear on the corner looks and smells remarkably similar to dieselooooooooooooooooh bugger."

Once the basics of riding become autonomous, we have more CPU cycles spare to spot, contemplate and react to safety risks in conscious thought. Meanwhile, we rely on what's left of our brain power, new habits and instincts .... which is why YouTube has so many examples of "Grab a bloody great fistful of brake" nose-dives.

[rastuscat]

Same thing, I guess, with newbie/learners (and returning bikers, like me) having to concentrate on the mechanics of driving, balancing, changing gear, braking, complying with the road rules And All That ... as well as wot that idiot pulling out of a side turning is doing, or whether that horse is spooked enough to jump into my path, or "Golly, that smear on the corner looks and smells remarkably similar to dieselooooooooooooooooh bugger."

Once the basics of riding become autonomous, we have more CPU cycles spare to spot, contemplate and react to safety risks in conscious thought. Meanwhile, we rely on what's left of our brain power, new habits and instincts .... which is why YouTube has so many examples of "Grab a bloody great fistful of brake" nose-dives.

Add to that the myth that the best way to brake is to forget the rear, and just grab as much front as possible as fast as possible.

[HenryDorsetCase]

GET OFF YOUR PHONE

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/106009880/exposed-by-text-driver-admits-causing-motorcyclists-death-in-crash

Hope she gets what she deserves

A teacher should know better

Fucking bitch.

Interestingly it was 9pm - presumably they get breath tested/blood tested as a matter of course?

Its interesting to me now that the po po just dont seem to give a fuck about handheld cellphone use anymore. I drove from Shakespeare Rd/Brougham St intersection all the way to Church Corner one day last week and this cunt in a Landrover Disco (newish) was yarning on a cellphone (he was in the left lane I in the right, heavyish traffic but moving at 60kph or so) ALL THE WAY till I got on the motorway. My car is six years old and it seamlessly pairs with my (new) phone so I can talk handsfree. I turn my phone off when driving so I can listen to music though

[YellowDog]

There are several categories of distraction. The current law seeks only to deal with manual distraction.

Cognitive distraction is the real killer.

'Cognitive distraction' covers all of the others, plus so much more.

I had a bad day yesterday. Too much on my mind. I realised it was bad, when I missed my turnoff. Went back and missed it again. Tried to turn the car around and missed the drive badly. Only minor damage done. I decided to call it a day and cancelled what I was doing, before I caused some serious harm.

[Swoop]

Hopefully, she will lose her job also. Some farkin low life unable to accept responsibility for her reckless actions.

The bitch killed someone ferfuxake :shit:
I doubt it.

However, the 62-year-old teacher aide admitted
She isn't a real teacher, just an assistant.