New Biker Needs Help

[Dharmbir]

Hi everyone, my first post on Kiwi Biker,glad to be here. I'm having hard time deciding what to buy for my first bike ever to commute and weekend fun, of course it has to be LAMS approved still nothing too high somewhere 150 to 300cc near $5k. As I only ridden 100cc bikes years ago and don't want something I can't handle so please help me out,here my options

1. Yamaha 150cc 2014 19k kms price $2.5k -- I think of going real cheap with this and get myself comfortable riding then change in year or so
2. Hyosung 250cc 2012-13 2k-5k kms price near $4k -- I like this because not many kms, killer look :bleh: and price is ok,Youtube reviews say its a cake mixer still ok for 1st bike
3. Ksaki Ninja 250cc 2009-14 10k-30k kms price near $5k -- of course who doesn't like Ninja thou I'm hesitant with many kms on these and most have scratch :no:
4. Honda CBR250cc 2008-2015 10-30k kms price near $5k -- CBR fails to excite me with looks,nice reviews however
5. Ksaki Ninja 300A 2015 18k kms price near $6k -- very flash :eek: I really want it but still not sure for first bike

So I hope I made some sense here also what do you prefer other then these bikes and which of these you would buy for first bike if you have very mild experience riding in past.
Thanks for reading

[rustys]

Not sure how tall or big you are, but i would go to the shops, and find either a 250 Hyo and a 250 ninja and have a sit on them, see what suits you, the Ninja is the smaller of the two. I have raced a Hyo 250 (heavier bike) and my wife has a 2008 250 Ninja set up for Touring etc and loves it, i personally would go with the Ninja, light and easy to handle, get along nicely providing you keep the rev's up, good on gas, easy maintenance, and i know lots using these for general commuting, plenty of bits for them available, have seen some good buys on these also.

[Dharmbir]

Not sure how tall or big you are, but i would go to the shops, and find either a 250 Hyo and a 250 ninja and have a sit on them, see what suits you, the Ninja is the smaller of the two. I have raced a Hyo 250 (heavier bike) and my wife has a 2008 250 Ninja set up for Touring etc and loves it, i personally would go with the Ninja, light and easy to handle, get along nicely providing you keep the rev's up, good on gas, easy maintenance, and i know lots using these for general commuting, plenty of bits for them available, have seen some good buys on these also.

thanks for replying . im 5.10 , yeah Hyo seems heavy and will be harder to sell when i get bored with it and ninja 250 or 300 im going for maybe yamaha r3 if i can find one with decent kms below $6k

[WALRUS]

Speaking as a former "Hooflung" owner (now 5 years clean, hooray for me) don't buy one. They look okay and sound alright and have a very attractive price tag but the upkeep is/can be a nightmare! Mine, in the 3 years I owned it, went through 1 stator and 3 reg/recs, and on two occasions died completely (one of which it decided to pump a heap of oil into my airbox which got sucked into the engine). Some of them go and go and go, some of them are complete lemons so I tell people to play it safe and steer clear!

In my opinion, I'd go for the Yamaha 150 if all you want to do is city commuting. If you feel the desire to do anything out of town and suburbia, I'd go for a 250/300 just to give you that little bit more versatility. Small bikes going long trips on motorways get very tedious very quickly as often you find yourself cruising at motorway speeds but your revs are quite high. My first bike was a Kawasaki GPX/EX250F (what the Ninja 250 was before it's facelift in 2009) and I found it comfy and very useable. Only downside was it was a bit small for 6ft1 of me.

That being said, that may or may not be the best advise for you. Go and sit on/ride a few and see what feels right for what you need your bike to do.

[Pound]

Go for the ninja 300, believe me, it's worth the extra, and it's certainly not too much power for a learner.:yes:

A very good one can be had for $5500.

[Dharmbir]

yea ninja 300 30th anniversary edition might be it, for $5.5 2016 10k kms, nicely done up too, only thing is the person is in lower hut Wellington and im in Manukau Auckland ,maybe ill ask if they can bring it half way lol hehe,,, Hyo GD250R X4R is going below $4k 2016 3k kms (im indian so its hard to get the cheapness out of me) anyway yamaha R3 2017 3k kms might deal $6k,again seller is in Wellington, my brother said just go with Yamaha YZF R3 2018 Movistar Limited Edition $7.5 but then im like i can just buy ninja 400 with another $500 , and the list goes on..

[nzspokes]

This, https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1698875976.htm?rsqid=127a7dba720c49bebece8e48cb1a8 7ed

Wont matter if it falls over, great around town and on the open road. Look after it and it wont lose money when you sell it.

[Dharmbir]

This, https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1698875976.htm?rsqid=127a7dba720c49bebece8e48cb1a8 7ed

Wont matter if it falls over, great around town and on the open road. Look after it and it wont lose money when you sell it.

bike is almost old as me ,no thanks

[FJRider]

bike is almost old as me ,no thanks

Buy something cheap to start with. As a learner you wont have it long before you want something BIGGER.

Try to get something that you might get what you paid for it. Don't put "mod's" on it ... and spend only what you NEED to spend on it (fuel/oil/rego/WOF/Necessary repairs etc) to keep it on the road ... save the $$$ for when the full class 6 is achieved.

You need experience before anything else. Get that and the options you want will be clearer ...

[Dharmbir]

how about this https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1701660883.htm

[FJRider]

bike is almost old as me ,no thanks

You rude prick. Probably the best immediate option you could expect that ticked all your boxes.

In capable hands ... with a rider with more ability and experience than you currently have ... it's ability would surprise you.

For the price ... you could spend a lot more for less bike.

[caseye]

The Nonda will give you evrything you ever need and still be going when it's time to trade it in, the Duc is for posers who put dollar value ahead of their needs and abilities, you'd be wise to at least go have a look at it, looks to me to be a goodún., well spotted Spokes, pity the bliinkers appear to be on.
And they came and asked, you could be forgiven for thinking what a complete toss pot.
Oh and welcoke along to KB, "New Biker Needs Help".

[Dharmbir]

You rude prick. Probably the best immediate option you could expect that ticked all your boxes.

In capable hands ... with a rider with more ability and experience than you currently have ... it's ability would surprise you.

For the price ... you could spend a lot more for less bike.

lol hows it rude ? the bike is ancient !

[Moi]

This, https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1698875976.htm?rsqid=127a7dba720c49bebece8e48cb1a8 7ed

Wont matter if it falls over, great around town and on the open road. Look after it and it wont lose money when you sell it.


how about this https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1701660883.htm


Put it this way - one's a Corolla and the other's a fancy exotic European...

know which I'd prefer to have as a learner's bike...

[FJRider]

Put it this way - one's a Corolla and the other's a fancy exotic European...

know which I'd prefer to have as a learner's bike...

I know which I'd be happier to pay repair bills on ... and as a learner rider ... a pretty good chance needing.

If he can afford an exotic European bike ... why ask our advice ... ???

[Moi]

I know which I'd be happier to pay repair bills on ... and as a learner rider ... a pretty good chance needing.

If he can afford an exotic European bike ... why ask our advice ... ???

Plus, the Honda will be self-help mechanic friendly, especially for basic maintenance... also, bound to find others on KB who can help with advice - not that there aren't Duc fans here...

Oh, well... horses and water troughs...

[nzspokes]

lol hows it rude ? the bike is ancient !

My learner bike was a 1980 model. It didnt matter if it fell over. Shit fell off it, I learnt to put it back on.

Its called learning, meh. Millennials....

You could have used the money you saved to get some quality instruction. :facepalm:

[nzspokes]

The Nonda will give you evrything you ever need and still be going when it's time to trade it in, the Duc is for posers who put dollar value ahead of their needs and abilities, you'd be wise to at least go have a look at it, looks to me to be a goodún., well spotted Spokes, pity the bliinkers appear to be on.
And they came and asked, you could be forgiven for thinking what a complete toss pot.
Oh and welcoke along to KB, "New Biker Needs Help".

You can lead a horse to water.......

[Dharmbir]

Plus, the Honda will be self-help mechanic friendly, especially for basic maintenance... also, bound to find others on KB who can help with advice - not that there aren't Duc fans here...

Oh, well... horses and water troughs...

guys i love the help its just i was at work and first thing i saw 1997 and i went no no too old , i didnt really meant anything by it,

ok so if i had the option to buy this honda hornet 250cc 1997 24k kms for $3450 or honda cbr300r 2016 3.5k kms for $4k ,would you still advise hornet?

[FJRider]

lol hows it rude ? the bike is ancient !

Never judge anything (or anyone) by age. Throughout your entire time riding motorcycles ... you will often be out-ridden by somebody on an older (and often smaller) motorcycle. And probably an older rider. Get used to it ...

There are motorcycles on the Lam's list that are older than that bike ... that will go faster/suit you better ... for longer than that bike ... for a lot less $$$.

[nzspokes]

guys i love the help its just i was at work and first thing i saw 1997 and i went no no too old , i didnt really meant anything by it,

ok so if i had the option to buy this honda hornet 250cc 1997 24k kms for $3450 or honda cbr300r 2016 3.5k kms for $4k ,would you still advise hornet?

You can pick 250 hornets up for $2500 if you look. One for sale that kinda money in auckland.

CBR300 is a bucket of crap on a stick.

[FJRider]

You can lead a horse to water.......

People laugh at camels ... but at least camels KNOW they need water ...

[Moi]

Suggestion...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1704377636.htm?rsqid=0c82c16fb627468bb38bb42f8eab9 839

[Dharmbir]

do yous think that oil leaks will be a problem ? they asking $3450 what should i offer

[Dharmbir]

Suggestion...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1704377636.htm?rsqid=0c82c16fb627468bb38bb42f8eab9 839

now we talking ! thats something that can still get 0s wet
lucky hes in papatoetoe so i might ask for test ride this weekend after i get my license lmao

[FJRider]

guys i love the help its just i was at work and first thing i saw 1997 and i went no no too old , i didnt really meant anything by it,

ok so if i had the option to buy this honda hornet 250cc 1997 24k kms for $3450 or honda cbr300r 2016 3.5k kms for $4k ,would you still advise hornet?

Check out Repair/parts replacement costs ... insurance costs ...

A 2016 CBR 300r ... with 3500 km's for $4000 ... ??? ... :blank:

[nzspokes]

Never judge anything (or anyone) by age. Throughout your entire time riding motorcycles ... you will often be out-ridden by somebody on an older (and often smaller) motorcycle. And probably an older rider. Get used to it ...

There are motorcycles on the Lam's list that are older than that bike ... that will go faster/suit you better ... for longer than that bike ... for a lot less $$$.

Yerp, trackdays when you think you are shit hot on a litre bike and a guy goes round the outside on a Hyobag 250.

People will always think the latest is the best. 250 Hornet with 40hp eats anything modern.

[Dharmbir]

Check out Repair/parts replacement costs ... insurance costs ...

A 2016 CBR 300r ... with 3500 km's for $4000 ... ??? ... :blank:

who need insurance for $5k bike i drive $8k skyline from 6 year never took insurance.
yeah cbr deal is real ,,so would you buy that ??

[Moi]

who need insurance for $5k bike i drive $8k skyline from 6 year never took insurance.
yeah cbr deal is real ,,so would you buy that ??

and what will you do when you ride your bike into someone's $20K car and their insurance takes you to court?

factor in the cost of insurance, even if it's just third-party...

[Dharmbir]

and what will you do when you ride your bike into someone's $20K car and their insurance takes you to court?

factor in the cost of insurance, even if it's just third-party...

man, people are very harsh on this forum

[FJRider]

who need insurance for $5k bike i drive $8k skyline from 6 year never took insurance.
yeah cbr deal is real ,,so would you buy that ??

Look on facebook at all the smashed up $5000+ cars people are trying to sell for fuck all ... because they had no insurance and can't afford to fix them. Insurance is a waste of money until things turn to shit. THEN ... it's worth every cent. We all know insurance for kid's your age IS expensive ... but insurance (even 3rd party) pays for the things YOU hit with your vehicle.

Good luck with that ...


The difference between the two bikes are ... On one you get a bike.

On the other ... you get a bike ... and can get GOOD quality riding courses AND/OR good riding gear for the same money.

With either bike ... you'll be looking for a bigger bike within 12 months.

[sidecar bob]

man, people are very harsh on this forum

Are they? Have a think about what the man said? What will you do?
Make it somebody else's problem as seems to be the modus operandi of millennials?
There's a fuckload of expierence on this forum, both life expierence & riding expierence. You would do well to heed some of it, rather than get your nose out of joint about it.

[Moi]

man, people are very harsh on this forum

No... it's called "reality check"...

It's not if you can afford the purchase price of the bike/car, it's can afford the "running costs"...

and for bikes running costs are greater than a car, apart from may be the cost of fuel...

* licence [registration] is higher than a car
* oil and filter changes needed more often than a car
* tyres don't last as long as car tyres and cost more - two bike tyres could cost you over $600
* servicing of chains/sprockets


Damn! I need to learn to type faster...

[FJRider]

man, people are very harsh on this forum

We haven't even STARTED yet ... :whistle:

[FJRider]

No... it's called "reality check"...

It's not if you can afford the purchase price of the bike/car, it's can afford the "running costs"...

and for bikes running costs are greater than a car, apart from may be the cost of fuel...

* licence [registration] is higher than a car
* oil and filter changes needed more often than a car
* tyres don't last as long as car tyres and cost more - two bike tyres could cost you over $600
* servicing of chains/sprockets

My FJ1200 costs me more per km than the 3 litre quad cam toyota I had ... :pinch:

Petrol is the cheap part ... ;)

[Dharmbir]

Are they? Have a think about what the man said? What will you do?
Make it somebody else's problem as seems to be the modus operandi of millennials?
There's a fuckload of expierence on this forum, both life expierence & riding expierence. You would do well to heed some of it, rather than get your nose out of joint about it.

hahaha i think everyone on this forum is also ancient just like that hornet because they keep throwing shit at us millennials.

[Dharmbir]

My FJ1200 costs me more per km than the 3 litre quad cam toyota I had ... :pinch:

Petrol is the cheap part ... ;)

i am not a speed junkie so i know for sure i will never go anywhere near 1200, i just want something shinny later on but for now im just looking for anything cheap to commute

[Moi]

Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance...

[sidecar bob]

hahaha i think everyone on this forum is also ancient just like that hornet because they keep throwing shit at us millennials.

Look mate, just buy whichever bike you want & don't get insurance while you still know everything.
Don't waste people's time asking for advice until you extract your head from your arse.

[Dharmbir]

Look mate, just buy whichever bike you want & don't get insurance while you still know everything.

why you gotta be like this grandbra we just "conversating" ,not sure if thats a real word

[Moi]

I am not a speed junkie...

says the man who drives a Skyline.

[Dharmbir]

says the man who drives a Skyline.

ya its a 2000cc 1994 5 speed skyline gts lol didnt even knew what skyline is when i bought it in 2013

[Dharmbir]

hows it that 1997 hornet only did 24000kms

[FJRider]

i am not a speed junkie so i know for sure i will never go anywhere near 1200, i just want something shinny later on but for now im just looking for anything cheap to commute

On the Lam's approved list ... bloody good bikes.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1681497146.htm?rsqid=5e52d825f0654ee883628a2640f26 c3f

[Dharmbir]

On the Lam's approved list ... bloody good bikes.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1681497146.htm?rsqid=5e52d825f0654ee883628a2640f26 c3f

70k kms scares me bike and price i like it

[FJRider]

why you gotta be like this grandbra we just "conversating" ,not sure if thats a real word

Because he's come across plenty of "know it all" kids before ... face to face ... and in these forums.

Hint ... you don't get old and wise ... through luck alone.

And don't think you're the first to ask these questions ... nor the first to go through the learner license process.

Your being able to afford to buy what you want/decide ... doesn't impress us at all. Us oldies have seen dozens of kids with the same ideas you have. We don't remember them all (old age causes that) ... but we remember the end results ...

Take your own route if you choose ... and the best of luck.

[FJRider]

i am not a speed junkie so i know for sure i will never go anywhere near 1200, i just want something shinny later on but for now im just looking for anything cheap to commute

I'm not a speed junkie ... I've never been over 220 km/hr ... (on a closed and private road of course) ... :innocent:

[FJRider]

70k kms scares me bike and price i like it

They do it easy.

Look on trademe at bikes 400cc to 650cc. Lams go up to 659cc ... surprise yourself at the bikes on offer.

[Dharmbir]

Because he's come across plenty of "know it all" kids before ... face to face ... and in these forums.

Hint ... you don't get old and wise ... through luck alone.

And don't think you're the first to ask these questions ... nor the first to go through the learner license process.

Your being able to afford to buy what you want/decide ... doesn't impress us at all. Us oldies have seen dozens of kids with the same ideas you have. We don't remember them all (old age causes that) ... but we remember the end results ...

Take your own route if you choose ... and the best of luck.

i really meant no disrespect to anyone on this forum taking their own time to help a noobie out , i guess i wasnt ready for bikers wisdom, honda hornet person said $3k so i will try test ride it in a week and try my best to forget about the CBR300R $4k

[FJRider]

i really meant no disrespect to anyone on this forum taking their own time to help a noobie out , i guess i wasnt ready for bikers wisdom, honda hornet person said $3k so i will try test ride it in a week and try my best to forget about the CBR300R $4k

Real life can be brutal. Seldom do you get a second chance for free. Life's lessons come with a price ... often a price your bank account wont cover.

Throughout life you will make plans ... always have a Plan B ... and a Plan C.

Life will never cease to amaze you ... especially the number of times that plan A does not work ... :shifty:

Good luck with your plans ... :niceone:

[nzspokes]

Because we have seen it all before, like the newb that upgraded to a CBR600 then went for a slide under a logging truck.

I know of a couple of folks that are paying huge debit off due to not having insurance, lamp post I think is 5k by itself.

Oh and dont forget you need to buy the right riding gear, allow at least 1k for that.

And look up the SASS thread and go along, some of us old farts may show you a thing or two to help you live a bit longer.

[OddDuck]

how about this https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1701660883.htm

A bit late to this discussion but here goes...

That's actually pretty sweet. There would be a couple of gotchas though... based on my experiences so far with the 900SS and the ST2, you'd be looking at immediate replacement of the timing belts and a valve clearance check. A few other basics like oil, oil filter, air filter etc should also be expected - if there aren't service records then assume it hasn't been done. 25 K km's suggests checking chain and sprockets too - try lifting the chain off the rear sprocket with your fingers (engine off of course) and seeing how how far you get. Post 2000 Ducati's got a lot better in terms of reliability and service intervals but they're still high maintenance compared to Jappas. It looks like a wet clutch so that'd be good in terms of wear for quite a while yet.

The tank damage suggests that a handlebar has been rather close to it at some time, that in turn suggests that it's been dropped. Not hard, probably just a driveway thing, but check good and hard that everything's straight. Better yet, take it to your local friendly dealer and pay for a pre-purchase check, the guys with the knowledge could save you a lot of headaches.

The belts and valves can be done DIY if you're practical but will get spendy fast if you have to pay a guy. This is frequently the reason that Ducati's get sold around this mileage, this is the point where it goes through its first really pricey service.

All of this said, it'll sound sweet and be huge fun to ride, if it fits properly.

[Dharmbir]

The belts and valves can be done DIY if you're practical but will get spendy fast if you have to pay a guy.

All of this said, it'll sound sweet and be huge fun to ride, if it fits properly.[/QUOTE]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1705481576.htm?rsqid=dc951e802db64b3a907dc4a9b7f04 482

[Dharmbir]

Because we have seen it all before, like the newb that upgraded to a CBR600 then went for a slide under a logging truck.

I know of a couple of folks that are paying huge debit off due to not having insurance, lamp post I think is 5k by itself.

Oh and dont forget you need to buy the right riding gear, allow at least 1k for that.

And look up the SASS thread and go along, some of us old farts may show you a thing or two to help you live a bit longer.

i cant find the SASS thread through search, could you link it please

[OddDuck]

The belts and valves can be done DIY if you're practical but will get spendy fast if you have to pay a guy.

All of this said, it'll sound sweet and be huge fun to ride, if it fits properly.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1705481576.htm?rsqid=dc951e802db64b3a907dc4a9b7f04 482[/QUOTE]

Not bad at all and the price is very reasonable. It does look like it's been over on its LH side though, have a look at the muffler. And the non-original bar ends. The scrapes (if that's what they are) don't talk of high speed so you shouldn't see major damage. The photos are a bit twilight aren't they? Check the bike IRL before making any decisions and get eyes on the service records too, regardless of what's been said, not all servicing is equal and come resell time you'll want those records for the next buyer. Single disc vs twin disc (the other one had these didn't it?) does make a difference but probably not a $1200-ish difference.

[Dharmbir]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1705481576.htm?rsqid=dc951e802db64b3a907dc4a9b7f04 482

Not bad at all and the price is very reasonable. It does look like it's been over on its LH side though, have a look at the muffler. And the non-original bar ends. The scrapes (if that's what they are) don't talk of high speed so you shouldn't see major damage. The photos are a bit twilight aren't they? Check the bike IRL before making any decisions and get eyes on the service records too, regardless of what's been said, not all servicing is equal and come resell time you'll want those records for the next buyer. Single disc vs twin disc (the other one had these didn't it?) does make a difference but probably not a $1200-ish difference.[/QUOTE]

yea they asked me to come see the bike first ,as im a noobie without a learner for another 7days what is LH? i cant tell the difference on single disc vs twin disc

[nzspokes]

i cant find the SASS thread through search, could you link it please

You will have to ask if they are currently running being winter and all.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/117274-South-Auckland-Street-Skills?highlight=sass

[OddDuck]

yea they asked me to come see the bike first ,as im a noobie without a learner for another 7days what is LH? i cant tell the difference on single disc vs twin disc[/QUOTE]

LH: Left Hand (side)

single disc vs twin disc: front disc brake rotors and calipers. Single: less unsprung mass, (sligthly) less rotational inertia, cheaper and easier to service, better handling while off the brakes. Twin: better outright sustained braking power, better handling under braking. Either will work just fine in the real world, twin discs make a huge difference in environments like the track but not really in normal, sane road riding.

It's not really a big deal on your first bike - getting the proper riding gear and doing your courses is much more important than worrying about that sort of detail right now.

[caspernz]

This, https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1698875976.htm?rsqid=127a7dba720c49bebece8e48cb1a8 7ed

Wont matter if it falls over, great around town and on the open road. Look after it and it wont lose money when you sell it.


bike is almost old as me ,no thanks

Good on you for persevering beyond this spokes...:innocent::facepalm:...some of us just shrugged our shoulders and tuned out :shutup:

[Moi]

... getting the proper riding gear and doing your courses is much more important than worrying about that sort of detail right now.

+1

The above is the other half of the equation when learning to ride...

[sidecar bob]

It's not really a big deal on your first bike - getting the proper riding gear and doing your courses is much more important than worrying about that sort of detail right now.

Get with the programme grandbra, the big deal is appearing cool & hip in front of your mates.:niceone:

[sidecar bob]

+1

The above is the other half of the equation when learning to ride...

The other half is firing it under the Armco on a mild curve.

[Moi]

how about this https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1701660883.htm

I think this sentence may disqualify it as a LAMS bike: Perfect inexpensive LAMs learner bike with true Ducati style and awesome sound from slightly modified mufflers.

[Pound]

Has sir considered a Haybusa yet? ;)

[Banditbandit]

lol hows it rude ? the bike is ancient !

Mate - some of us have been riding longer than you have been alive - by some considerable amount of time ..


We haven't even STARTED yet ... :whistle:

He's right - things will get rough ..


hahaha i think everyone on this forum is also ancient just like that hornet because they keep throwing shit at us millennials.

Yeah - you don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks ..


Get with the programme grandbra, the big deal is appearing cool & hip in front of your mates.:niceone:


get a fucking piece of shit harley then - we thought you might have been a serious rider ..

[WALRUS]

bike is almost old as me ,no thanks

Okay, so the 1997 Hornet is too old buuuuut...


ya its a 2000cc 1994 5 speed skyline gts lol didnt even knew what skyline is when i bought it in 2013

The 1994 Skyline isn't?

And yeah, sometimes the people on here can come across as a little harsh but, to be fair, you were being a little silly wit' yer words!

Lessons to be learned:

1) Focus money on gear and learning
2) Get something cheap and cheerful, reliable, and stackable. Don't bother with new and pretty while you're figuring out what you're doing.
3) GET INSURANCE and factor it into your costs (I work for an insurance company, trust me, just fucking do it)
4) Never ever ever ever ever ever say "Grandbra" again if you don't want to cop the full force of this forum.. Saying silly things gets you an appropriate response ;)

Now, go get a bike, get on the road, get riding, get experience, get good and get on with it.

[sidecar bob]

get a fucking piece of shit harley then - we thought you might have been a serious rider ..

Im fine. It's the kid with a penchant for Italian mobile air compressors I'm suspicious of.
I ride a 250 scooter most days. I'm pretty sure my mates are beyond using that as a stick to measure my success by.

[slofox]

Get with the programme grandbra, the big deal is appearing cool & hip in front of your mates.:niceone:


Mates like that I don't need. Too much effort to worry about how I look these days. Hard enough to get out of bed. :whistle:

[Moi]

Mates like that I don't need. Too much effort to worry about how I look these days. Hard enough to get out of bed. :whistle:

Come on, get better organised, get your act together... you've got to look good for that young lady who lives with you!

Plus, you've got to get up in the morning to feed her...

[Banditbandit]

Im fine. It's the kid with a penchant for Italian mobile air compressors I'm suspicious of.
I ride a 250 scooter most days. I'm pretty sure my mates are beyond using that as a stick to measure my success by.

Sorry - my comment was aimed at Dhamrmbir ..

[slofox]

Plus, you've got to get up in the morning to feed her...

I don't have a lot of choice over that one. I usually get up about 6am to feed her. Any time from about 5am onwards, she is trying to haul the blankets off me to get me up. I didn't know she had a clock of her own...:rolleyes:

[rustys]

Hey "Grandbra Bob" :laugh: hav'nt you got rid of this dude :facepalm: yet, won't listen will they. You going over to the Manx with Jay?

[sidecar bob]

Hey "Grandbra Bob" :laugh: hav'nt you got rid of this dude :facepalm: yet, won't listen will they. You going over to the Manx with Jay?

Yup, leaving in a week. Follow our progress on the Carl Cox Motorsport FB page.
I don't really know what FB means, but Im told that's what to say:msn-wink:

[Grumph]

Yup, leaving in a week. Follow our progress on the Carl Cox Motorsport FB page.
I don't really know what FB means, but Im told that's what to say:msn-wink:

You'd better come on here for the occasional moan then. I literally can't do FB - If I'd had notice I'd have sent you a box of pigeons...

[Hoonicorn]

You want a late model sports bike, you want cheap but minimal maintenance issues. Yamaha R3 in Auckland (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1709809465.htm?rsqid=450a363299454ec093dd337746264 3ff). Gear indicator and fuel gauge, reliable brand, and trademe bike for sale has a full service history.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQTLJaOwa2Y

[buggerit]

Yup, leaving in a week. Follow our progress on the Carl Cox Motorsport FB page.
I don't really know what FB means, but Im told that's what to say:msn-wink:

Front Bum? :eek:

[FJRider]

I think this sentence may disqualify it as a LAMS bike: Perfect inexpensive LAMs learner bike with true Ducati style and awesome sound from slightly modified mufflers.

The catchwords are ... "No modifications that lighten or increase the power of the motorcycle".

Aftermarket exhaust systems are allowed if the original systems are no longer available.

And to be honest ... I know of no riders that have been ticketed as such ... for a breach of the Conditions of license.

[rustys]

Yup, leaving in a week. Follow our progress on the Carl Cox Motorsport FB page.
I don't really know what FB means, but Im told that's what to say:msn-wink:

Catch up with you over there (Grandbra) , arriving on the 16th.

[Moi]

The catchwords are ... "No modifications that lighten or increase the power of the motorcycle".

Aftermarket exhaust systems are allowed if the original systems are no longer available.

And to be honest ... I know of no riders that have been ticketed as such ... for a breach of the Conditions of license.

I wasn't thinking so much as licence issues, more as an issue with insurance. If the aftermarket exhaust lightened the bike or by removing a few baffles to improve the sound or replacing with a noisier exhaust improved the power output then he might have issues with an insurance company should he need to call on their assistance.

However, the OP did state that insurance wasn't top of his list of "things to buy" when he gets a bike... so he'd not have that problem... just the other person's insurance going for his wallet...

It could also be interesting if he struck a WoF inspector who started to question things...

[Hoonicorn]

supbroh, ya got ya bikebroh? You need gearbroh, don't look like a squidbroh.
$200 LS2 full face helmetbroh.
$400 fo a textile RST jacketbroh.
$250 fo stylemartin bootsbroh.
$150 RST glovesbroh.
$300 fo yo pantsbroh.
$500 fo yo regobroh.
$500+ fo yo insurancebroh.

then budget for yo bikebroh.

Don't be an amatuer, get rider trainingbroh.

:rockon:

[FJRider]

I wasn't thinking so much as licence issues, more as an issue with insurance. If the aftermarket exhaust lightened the bike or by removing a few baffles to improve the sound or replacing with a noisier exhaust improved the power output then he might have issues with an insurance company should he need to call on their assistance.

The actual wording is " these motorcycles must be in standard form as produced by the manufacturer. They cannot be modified in any way to increase the power-to-weight ratio".
This could require proof of intent to break the condition of license rules.


However, the OP did state that insurance wasn't top of his list of "things to buy" when he gets a bike... so he'd not have that problem... just the other person's insurance going for his wallet...

Insurance issues should not be an issue if the levy's were paid. Most policies aren't even reliant on all laws being obeyed. (eg: SPEED)


It could also be interesting if he struck a WoF inspector who started to question things...

LAM's rules are NOT part of ANY WOF check list. Nor are they required to check the license status of those presenting vehicles to them for a WOF check.

[Moi]

... Insurance issues should not be an issue if the levy's were paid. Most policies aren't even reliant on all laws being obeyed. (eg: SPEED)

I was thinking along the lines of... he has a crash and makes a claim and the insurance declines his claim because the bike has been modified and they have not been told...

But what the heck, he's the one who has to deal with whatever happens...

[FJRider]

I was thinking along the lines of... he has a crash and makes a claim and the insurance declines his claim because the bike has been modified and they have not been told...

But what the heck, he's the one who has to deal with whatever happens...

It probably might be worth asking the insurance rep about it though. But not our problem.

[caspernz]

supbroh, ya got ya bikebroh? You need gearbroh, don't look like a squidbroh.
$200 LS2 full face helmetbroh.
$400 fo a textile RST jacketbroh.
$250 fo stylemartin bootsbroh.
$150 RST glovesbroh.
$300 fo yo pantsbroh.
$500 fo yo regobroh.
$500+ fo yo insurancebroh.

then budget for yo bikebroh.

Don't be an amatuer, get rider trainingbroh.

:rockon:

Chur bro, at this rate the noob be going to see his grandbra for a handout of pingers...

[Hoonicorn]

Chur bro, at this rate the noob be going to see his grandbra for a handout of pingers...

Probably.

Then they might realise that gear, insurance and registration can be expensive and may take a second look at the bikes being recommended here.

[caspernz]

Probably.

Then they might realise that gear, insurance and registration can be expensive and may take a second look at the bikes being recommended here.

Or go for a cheap Jap import car...:devil2:

[Big Dog]

Or go for a cheap Jap import car...:devil2:

Play nice.
OP identifies as living in Auckland... that's bad enough without also driving a car on the regular. Rofl.

[caspernz]

Play nice.
OP identifies as living in Auckland... that's bad enough without also driving a car on the regular. Rofl.

My apologies, what was I thinking...:eek5::sweatdrop

[sidecar bob]

Looks like the op has scarpered on account of not receiving the kind of support & advice he had planned on.
No doubt there will be a Facebook thread requesting a group hug & a givealittle page to help raise money so he can buy a bike that doesn't cause unnecessary embarrassment Because of it being too old & not Italian.
It will also require a few paid days of leave under the new domestic violence legislation & flexible hours to locate a bike that fits the criteria.
What did he think he was going to get here, it's not Facebook.

[Voltaire]

They are right about buying an old bike, I gave my Son a ride on my LAMS Triumph 650 but he decided that technology had improved since 1953 and he would stick with his Hyo 650 that he toured the SI on last Summer....bloody ungrateful millennial and his snapchat Ubereats :rolleyes:

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[Moi]

Looks like the op has scarpered on account of not receiving the kind of support & advice he had planned on.
No doubt there will be a Facebook thread requesting a group hug & a givealittle page to help raise money so he can buy a bike that doesn't cause unnecessary embarrassment Because of it being too old & not Italian.
It will also require a few paid days of leave under the new domestic violence legislation & flexible hours to locate a bike that fits the criteria.
What did he think he was going to get here, it's not Facebook.

Hang on... think you might have jumped the gun by a day... didn't the OP say he was going to do his Basic Handling/CBTA tomorrow and then he was off to buy the bike of his dreams...

Meanwhile, what do you mean, this isn't FaceBook? :eek:

[FJRider]

... Meanwhile, what do you mean, this isn't FaceBook? :eek:

I once commented to a gent on facebook (that was moaning about some issue) ... that "some people confuse facebook with the real world".

His reply ... "You can't be serious .. ???"

[FJRider]

They are right about buying an old bike, I gave my Son a ride on my LAMS Triumph 650 but he decided that technology had improved since 1953 ...



I doubt if it has ... in England ... :pinch:

[SaferRides]

Looks like the op has scarpered on account of not receiving the kind of support & advice he had planned on.
No doubt there will be a Facebook thread requesting a group hug & a givealittle page to help raise money so he can buy a bike that doesn't cause unnecessary embarrassment Because of it being too old & not Italian.
It will also require a few paid days of leave under the new domestic violence legislation & flexible hours to locate a bike that fits the criteria.
What did he think he was going to get here, it's not Facebook.Well, haven't you all done well. Maybe he was actually looking for some decent advice?

[sidecar bob]

Well, haven't you all done well. Maybe he was actually looking for some decent advice?

And when he got it, it turned out that he knew better already.
Giving advice is pointless, The smart don't need it & the stupid don't heed it.
Anyway, wrong forum. He was looking for fashion advice, not motorcycle advice.

[Murray]

Looks like the op has scarpered on account of not receiving the kind of support & advice he had planned on.
No doubt there will be a Facebook thread requesting a group hug & a givealittle page to help raise money so he can buy a bike that doesn't cause unnecessary embarrassment Because of it being too old & not Italian.
It will also require a few paid days of leave under the new domestic violence legislation & flexible hours to locate a bike that fits the criteria.
What did he think he was going to get here, it's not Facebook.

He was a dick anyway and I can't believe how polite everyone was to him

[FJRider]

He was a dick anyway and I can't believe how polite everyone was to him

KB has standards you know ... :innocent:

[Dharmbir]

nigha my nigha,for some reason my email werent letting me know of new responses and i had thought nothing was being posted on my thread, today out of blue it gave me a notification of a new response and id be damn .. ok allya grandbras! had me in the center of your joke! ya done my BHS in 2 minutes and inspect person said you are really good as i have ridden back in India .. got my 6L yesterday..im looking at this tomorrow for $2.5 https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1679802938 or i might pay $3k https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1711179243&archive=1 ..... also bought https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/helmets/listing-1716572853.htm?rsqid=2d7859c265904ebabc9dde7749002 967 https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/gloves/listing-1712227829.htm?rsqid=fc45431ee90c474e8c561e1b0dce8 c67.... now let the laughter begin

[FJRider]

Who suggested buying those heaps of shit ... :rolleyes: and ... the gear might do until you can afford decent stuff ... :killingme

[nzspokes]

Who suggested buying those heaps of shit ... :rolleyes: and ... the gear might do until you can afford decent stuff ... :killingme

They are gardening gloves??????:eek5:

[Hoonicorn]

The ninja looks rough, a very rusted chain too. That's usually a sign of poor maintenance.

Check for a flat (squared off) rear tyre and make sure all the indicator lights (dash warning lights) turn on when starting the bike, that it has a current WoF, and brakes have good bite and the brake lights come on when you apply front or rear brakes , the indicators work and daytime running light and highbeam etc... check the clutch operation, look out for bent and damaged levers, see if the handlebars line up straight when the front wheel is straight and get someone mechanically savvy to come with you and give it a look over if possible.

and don't cheap out on the helmet, its the only thing protecting the mush between your ears and the road coming at you at 100km/h

[FJRider]

and don't cheap out on the helmet, its the only thing protecting the mush between your ears and the road coming at you at 100km/h

Or one you haven't TRIED ON FIRST. Less than 5 minutes with it on your head tells you a lot. If you can ... go for a ride with it on. The wind noise on some cheapies will drive you nuts.

[Dharmbir]

Or one you haven't TRIED ON FIRST. Less than 5 minutes with it on your head tells you a lot. If you can ... go for a ride with it on. The wind noise on some cheapies will drive you nuts.

i had tried it on its L weights about 1.5kg foking heavy ,,ninja guy is coming over i will be going for my first ride ever in nz ,wish me luck

[rustys]

i had tried it on its L weights about 1.5kg foking heavy ,,ninja guy is coming over i will be going for my first ride ever in nz ,wish me luck

Fark this will be interesting...:no:, please come back and tell us how you went, we can offer you more good advice on KB here seeing your such a good listener....:brick:

[Dharmbir]

Fark this will be interesting...:no:, please come back and tell us how you went, we can offer you more good advice on KB here seeing your such a good listener....:brick:

so i bought it for $2500 ,, went for ride and i DO feel scared without my nighty armor lmao! how many L plate do i need to show on my motorbike 1 or 2?

also he said its running low on engine oil .. there nothing on tilted bike but when i upright the bike screen fills up fast.

what is the temp sign light on igniton?

[FJRider]

so i bought it for $2500 ,, went for ride and i DO feel scared without my nighty armor lmao! how many L plate do i need to show on my motorbike 1 or 2?

also he said its running low on engine oil .. there nothing on tilted bike but when i upright the bike screen fills up fast.

what is the temp sign light on igniton?

One L plate at each end is required to make it legal.

The bikes oil level needs to be checked with the bike held upright. Put oil in then and check oil level.

Any indication when the oil/filter was last changed .. ??? If (probably) not ... do it/get it done. Cheap insurance.

[Dharmbir]

One L plate at each end is required to make it legal.

The bikes oil level needs to be checked with the bike held upright. Put oil in then and check oil level.

Any indication when the oil/filter was last changed .. ??? If (probably) not ... do it/get it done. Cheap insurance.

nzta website says this You must display an L (learner) plate on the back of your motorcycle at all times when you are riding. Failure to display L plates could result in 25 demerit points and a fine of $100.

also he said he bought on 8000kms and now its 11000km and no service done while him owing it for 3000kms but recons it need service in next 500km,,i checked oil screen fills full when holding upright but fully empty screen when on side

[Voltaire]

This is the light to watch, means its Tea Time.
https://content.repairpalcdn.com/images/managed/content_images/encyclopedia/warning_lights/Low_Oil_Lamp_Amber.jpg

[WALRUS]

Failure to display L plates could result in 25 demerit points and a fine of $100.

25 points??? Is that, like, not much over there?

I need to read up on the NZ demerit system haha!

[Dharmbir]

This is the light to watch, means its Tea Time.
https://content.repairpalcdn.com/images/managed/content_images/encyclopedia/warning_lights/Low_Oil_Lamp_Amber.jpg

thats not the sign i meant by temp ..temp sign i want to know is in fuel gauge corner..checked with aa and 1 L plate on the black of your bike prefer a solid L plate

[FJRider]

25 points??? Is that, like, not much over there?

I need to read up on the NZ demerit system haha!

100 Demerits and your license is suspended for 3 months ...

[Dharmbir]

100 Demerits and your license is suspended for 3 months ...

not for L plates thou

[WALRUS]

Yeah, righto.. Well over here it's if you accrue 12 points you lose your licence, and points stay on there for 3 years

[Dharmbir]

Yeah, righto.. Well over here it's if you accrue 12 points you lose your licence, and points stay on there for 3 years

is that why you want to move to nz lmao

[Moi]

OK, you've bought the bike...

Now:
1. if it doesn't come with an Owner's Manual, have a look online for one or a service manual - better get both.
2. do a service on the bike, that gives you a base point for any further servicing, check tyres for age...
3. check online for info about what is required on your bike - start with NZTA website...
4. make sure you have changed the registration over to your name
5. insure the bike
6. buy some more decent gear - boots, gloves, jacket, pants... Forget to mention: buy reputable brands, even if second hand.
7. book a RideForever Bronze course once you feel confident about riding in traffic - if you do the course in August I understand it is free.

[Dharmbir]

OK, you've bought the bike...

Now:
1. if it doesn't come with an Owner's Manual, have a look online for one or a service manual - better get both.
2. do a service on the bike, that gives you a base point for any further servicing, check tyres for age...
3. check online for info about what is required on your bike - start with NZTA website...
4. make sure you have changed the registration over to your name
5. insure the bike
6. buy some more decent gear - boots, gloves, jacket, pants...
7. book a RideForever Bronze course once you feel confident about riding in traffic - if you do the course in August I understand it is free.

Now:
1. i might find a pdf copy online?
2. yea im buying kn401 filter and FUCHS 10w 40 oil synth
3. maybe change headlights to led
4. doen it after a long hassle with chrome not working with NZTA standards,,how do i make sure its on my name?
5. not in this lifetime
6. yeah im buying a jacket with armor fitted in,any recommendations?
7. dont know whats it is or what it does,i can ride just about fine,,but if its free i will give it a shot

[WALRUS]

is that why you want to move to nz lmao

Nah, the traffic cops down here are pretty alright. I've got a handful of reasons for my impending immigration :P

[Dharmbir]

Nah, the traffic cops down here are pretty alright. I've got a handful of reasons for my impending immigration :P

you put cops and alright in the same sentence ,you feeling alright mate

[Jeeper]

Insure for 3rd party at least. That way the innocent other party will be protected from your actions.

For warning light, post up a photo. If your temp light comes on during a ride, it might be overheating.

[Moi]

Now:
1. i might find a pdf copy online?
2. yea im buying kn401 filter and FUCHS 10w 40 oil synth
3. maybe change headlights to led
4. doen it after a long hassle with chrome not working with NZTA standards,,how do i make sure its on my name?
5. not in this lifetime
6. yeah im buying a jacket with armor fitted in,any recommendations?
7. dont know whats it is or what it does,i can ride just about fine,,but if its free i will give it a shot

Response:
1. have you had a look?
2. it's more than just engine oil and filter...
3. why?
4. use a different browser and check the NZTA website, the answers are there
5. if you don't insure the bike, even for third party, you are extremely foolish...
6. reputable brand?
7. do some research - it might save you a great deal of grief...

[Dharmbir]

Response:
1. have you had a look?
2. it's more than just engine oil and filter...
3. why?
4. use a different browser and check the NZTA website, the answers are there
5. if you don't insure the bike, even for third party, you are extremely foolish...
6. reputable brand?
7. do some research - it might save you a great deal of grief...

1. ninja250 2008 youtube filled with everything i need for it
2. for service? i honestly thought thats all i need, what else for service?
3. i might need front tire,ill ask some at brighstone if they can find a single front tire
4. it had gone through and i also received a email ,but i still think i mightve missed something on last page..ill ring NZTA tomorrow
5. yea i might take third party , yous all slowly convincing me
6. ..
7. i watch youtube video!

[Hoonicorn]

Assume that bike has not been serviced since it's run in at 1000ks. Low oil and rusted chain are both clear signs it hasn't been cared for. It will need an oil change and air filter by now. A good idea anyway, oil should be changed every 12mths regardless of miliage especially if the bike isn't regularly taken for long motorway rides.

Give the chain a scrub down with some kero with a chain brush and check the chain slack while you're doing that (specs are on the swing arm or in the manual) it could be a bit loose now. The Kawi manual states the chain should be cleaned every 600km so investing in a chain brush and some kero is worth it, honestly the cheapest thing you can buy that you really need for maintenance.

A note about LEDs, I read somewhere on Kiwibiker that your bike will fail a warrant if you install LED headlights.

Rego for a bike is going to be around $500 for a LAMS bike and third party insurance will run you another $450. Third party will cover the loss of, or damage to, your motorcycle from fire or theft. It also covers your liability for damage to a third party’s property or vehicle (up to $10,000,000) when you run into that Merc and find out a Merc bumper costs more than your bike to replace.

[Moi]

1. ninja250 2008 youtube filled with everything i need for it
2. for service? i honestly thought thats all i need, what else for service?
3. i might need front tire,ill ask some at brighstone if they can find a single front tire
4. it had gone through and i also received a email ,but i still think i mightve missed something on last page..ill ring NZTA tomorrow
5. yea i might take third party , yous all slowly convincing me
6. ..
7. i watch youtube video!

1. a service manual is a better source of info than youtube...
2. that's why you need a service manual...
3. you mean Bridgestone? You need to talk to a tyre dealer who knows bike tyres
4. better to ask them than to ask on here
5. weigh up the cost of third party insurance against being sued by an insurance company for the damage done by you and your bike to a vehicle insured with them
6. Alpinestar, Berik, Dainese, Spidi, Dririder, 1Tonne, Oxford, Rev'it, Spyke... bound to have missed some...
7. actually doing some training with an instructor is far better than watching on youtube - use google to find out about RideForever

[Hoonicorn]

1. ninja250 2008 youtube filled with everything i need for it
2. for service? i honestly thought thats all i need, what else for service?
3. i might need front tire,ill ask some at brighstone if they can find a single front tire
4. it had gone through and i also received a email ,but i still think i mightve missed something on last page..ill ring NZTA tomorrow
5. yea i might take third party , yous all slowly convincing me
6. ..
7. i watch youtube video!

Manual here (https://ownersmanuals2.com/d/52629)

Youtube video to watch here (Keith Code Twist of the Wrist 2) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zD0EYOVDZ0)

Ride Forever website (https://www.rideforever.co.nz)

[Dharmbir]

if the bike isn't regularly taken for long motorway rides.

Give the chain a scrub down with some kero with a chain brush and check the chain slack

Rego for a bike is going to be around $500


tomorrow im buying chain cleaner,lube and brush.after work i will be getting on it or maybe wait till my rear stand arrives $45 of trademe.
and i looked other then oil n filter i need drain plug washer ya? because main O ring and mounting bot O ring should come with the filter??
wtf $500 rego for 12months?

[caseye]

Aw Shucks you guys are too muchhhh!
Good information and advice, make sure you do the insurance, at least 3rd party, then you don't end up in dept for the rest of yer natural.:lol:

[Dharmbir]

Aw Shucks you guys are too muchhhh!
Good information and advice, make sure you do the insurance, at least 3rd party, then you don't end up in dept for the rest of yer natural.:lol:

its called a forum life , not too much

[WALRUS]

you put cops and alright in the same sentence ,you feeling alright mate

I've never had a bad experience with Mr Plod. When they've given me tickets it has been because I was riding or driving like a tosser so why would I give them a hard time? My bad, I'll wear it.

From my experience, down my way, those who have had bad experiences with the police usually give them a shitty attitude to start with :/

Anywho, different people, different city, different country, etc, etc, etc

Back to what is important, GET 3RD PARTY INSURANCE!!

Insurance can be expensive, sure.. But speaking as someone who works for an insurance company and have seen how fucked over people get for not even having Third Party Property Damage (let alone, Fire and Theft) on their vehicles.. Pay the extra $300 and save yourself potentially thousands and thousands of dollars. Just do it.

[Dharmbir]

Back to what is important, GET 3RD PARTY INSURANCE!! .

i hear y'all

can i use these for drain plug washer http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/Product/Champion-Plug-Washer-CDP12/3879

[caseye]

i hear y'all

Russy, they've got Clothe Ears, keep telling him, about those poor unfortunates who didn't have any and hit a gold bar of a car, on you guys, we might have saved a biker some grief here.

[Dharmbir]

Russy, they've got Clothe Ears, keep telling him, about those poor unfortunates who didn't have any and hit a gold bar of a car, on you guys, we might have saved a biker some grief here.

making sense is not your strongest point ya? and thats coming from me

[Hoonicorn]

tomorrow im buying chain cleaner,lube and brush.after work i will be getting on it or maybe wait till my rear stand arrives $45 of trademe.
and i looked other then oil n filter i need drain plug washer ya? because main O ring and mounting bot O ring should come with the filter??
wtf $500 rego for 12months?

$500 for rego for 12 months... you won't get much sympathy from those of us on non-learner bikes, they cost even more. ACC puts a large levy on motorcycle rego, so make use of their subsidised ride forever courses and get something back for your money!

When you look for a jacket, I'd advise you look for one that looks like a normal jacket you can wear off the bike too, for example: this joe rocket jacket from revzilla! (https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/joe-rocket-old-school-leather-jacket) It's awkward walking around town or uni in a dainese one-piece.

[Dharmbir]

When you look for a jacket, I'd advise you look for one that looks like a normal jacket you can wear off the bike too, for example: this joe rocket jacket from revzilla! (https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/joe-rocket-old-school-leather-jacket) It's awkward walking around town or uni in a dainese one-piece.

before today i was after a leather jacket but after riding today on 70kph i dont think leather can protect shet hahaha seller was in jacket/armor with cups on shoulders elbows, maybe because he rode northshore to manukau on 100kph

[FJRider]

Yeah, righto.. Well over here it's if you accrue 12 points you lose your licence, and points stay on there for 3 years

In NZ it's over a 2 year time span. You need to be demerit free for 2 years since your last demerits.

[Dharmbir]

In NZ it's over a 2 year time span. You need to be demerit free for 2 years since your last demerits.

lol as i make my living driving a truck i dont think i should be on a bike at all
time to look for other carrier options

[Jeeper]

before today i was after a leather jacket but after riding today on 70kph i dont think leather can protect shet hahaha seller was in jacket/armor with cups on shoulders elbows, maybe because he rode northshore to manukau on 100kphA proper leather jacket is the best protection. If you don't believe that, search on YouTube for textile/synthetic vs leather skids and see what comes out on top.

[Murray]

how many L plate do i need to show on my motorbike 1 or 2?



Just the 1 on the front of your helmet!

[layton]

i had a 2008 ninja 250.. was a great wee bike until it exploded all over a honda! trust me, you want insurance! i think you should get a friend to help you service the bike somebody who has some experience, would hate to see you strip the sump threads or totally overfill the bike. when i was new to all this bike stuff i had a tendency to over tighten things! now im real good at removing broken bolts and fixing threads :lol:

i can also vouch for getting good gear, never ride without good gloves each time gravity kicked in my hands where first to go down and slide. i spent around $1000 on my first set of gear and that was only entry level stuff

[nzspokes]

i had a 2008 ninja 250.. was a great wee bike until it exploded all over a honda! trust me, you want insurance! i think you should get a friend to help you service the bike somebody who has some experience, would hate to see you strip the sump threads or totally overfill the bike. when i was new to all this bike stuff i had a tendency to over tighten things! now im real good at removing broken bolts and fixing threads :lol:

i can also vouch for getting good gear, never ride without good gloves each time gravity kicked in my hands where first to go down and slide. i spent around $1000 on my first set of gear and that was only entry level stuff

Yerp, have a $1600 jacket and just bought a $1600 helmet.

[nzspokes]

i can ride just about fine

:facepalm::brick:

[caspernz]

Bring me some popcorn, this thread has got some butter in it...:facepalm::innocent::woohoo:

[Dharmbir]

Bring me some popcorn, this thread has got some butter in it...:facepalm::innocent::woohoo:

you need some Castle Rock,if you want popcorn:Police:

[WALRUS]

before today i was after a leather jacket but after riding today on 70kph i dont think leather can protect shet hahaha seller was in jacket/armor with cups on shoulders elbows, maybe because he rode northshore to manukau on 100kph

You're right. Leather is pointless and overpriced. That's why MotoGP and WSBK racers all wear street wear with armour 'cups' on their shoulders and elbows


A proper leather jacket is the best protection. If you don't believe that, search on YouTube for textile/synthetic vs leather skids and see what comes out on top.

These days, a decent textile jacket is just as 'safe' as a half decent leather jacket.. But the difference as far as I can tell is Textile gear saves your skin in ONE fall where as leather has a bit more staying power.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-PylOp2EB8

Young master Dharmbir, please do yourself a favour and get a leather jacket.

[Moi]

OK, you've got the bike.

Once you've given it a thorough service it'll be ready to be used. However, you may not be ready to ride it.

Take yourself to a motorbike dealer and have a look at the gear they have. Try on various brands and check for good fit, the shop people should be able to guide you in that. Basically you want the jacket/pants to be "snug" but not tight so the armour doesn't move about when you need it to do its job and that they don't cut off your circulation... Keep a record of brand and style and size. If you decide that the gear is worth having and the credit card will cope with it, buy it.

If the credit card won't deal with the cost, then you have a good idea of what will fit you when you start looking on somewhere like trademe for a jacket or pants. Just because the jacket is second-hand doesn't mean it's past its use-by date. There are many reasons why people are selling gear. If you see something that would be suitable check the photos carefully for anything that is not being shown - mainly it's been "down the road" and they're not saying so. If that's the case, walk away. If the jacket looks good, either go with the buy-now, if you are prepared to pay that for it, or go the auction route. If you win the item, great. If not, try again.

If you do win the auction, you can always replace the armour in the jacket with new armour if you feel it may be worth while doing so.

Textile gear is good for all seasons, generally, as it often has removable winter quilted liners. It is not as expensive as leather but it does have it limitations - mainly being that if you have an off in it, it may need to be replaced. Some insurance policies will cover gear, some don't - worth checking when you buy your insurance. You also need to maintain it, washing in tech wash helps it maintain its weather proofness, to a point. No textile gear is waterproof, unless you pay as much for it as you have for your bike!

Leather gear is the best. However, it too has its limitations. It doesn't like getting wet and certainly doesn't like being forced-dried. It may not be as warm as textiles in winter. There are some on here who only ride in leather all year and deal with the cold of winter in various ways - layering with appropriate gear is the way to go. It requires maintenance and care. But in saying that, if you buy quality gear now you will still have it in 30 years, provided you care for it. Leather will survive a "down the road" better than textile and if it is damaged it can be repaired.

Gloves are important because it is natural instinct to put our hands out to safe us from a fall. That's fine if you standing on grass and trip over. However, at road speeds you need to have gloves that will stand up to the task and buying from a reputable brand you will get protection commensurable to the price. A pair of $150 gloves will not be as good as a $400 pair - generally - but the $150 gloves are likely to do a better job than a $25 pair.

Same can be said for boots - protection for the foot and the ankle is important. You don't want to have to learn to walk again because you had a crash in a pair of sneakers and lost the toes on your foot. There are bike sneakers available, however the cost is similar to boots which will do a better job of protecting you feet.

You're in South Auckland, there are several motorbike dealers out that way. You could take yourself to Moto1 and see what they have and get an idea of what you'll be paying for new gear. I have had no dealings with that retailer so I am not giving an endorsement in any way, just pointing out that they are out your way. So are Botany Honda and several others. Do a google search for someone near you and go and see them.

You are likely to spend as much on buying good gear as you have spent on buying the bike. Gear protects the two most important organs in your body - your skin and your head...


If you've got this far, then a wee story: Earlier this year a mate had a low-speed off, about 25km/h when he slid along the road. He suffered cracked ribs, cracked shoulder blade and bruising for Africa. The head of ER told him that he suffered only a bit of "battering and bruising" because he was wearing good appropriate gear. If not, then he'd have been facing "road rash" damage and possible skin grafts to repair the damage. The issue with skin damage is that it takes a very long time to heal, is very painful and you never ever have quite the same movement again in the damaged area. The skin loses its elasticity as it repairs itself. Plus a quality helmet written-off but no head trauma.

Here endth the sermon...

[HEsch]

Bring me some popcorn, this thread has got some butter in it...:facepalm::innocent::woohoo:

Sounds like a troll.

I've put a large lot of popcorn in the microwave.

[Jeeper]

You can buy leather jackets with thermal liners that are removal for summer. Generally, quality, features and prices move in the same direction (they are highly correlated).

[FJRider]

These days, a decent textile jacket is just as 'safe' as a half decent leather jacket.. But the difference as far as I can tell is Textile gear saves your skin in ONE fall where as leather has a bit more staying power.



Have you checked (actually seen) out the Icon gear that featured in that vid ... or did you just read the headline banner .. ??? They sell a range of clothing that will not suitable as motorcycle "Safety" gear but still carry their brand name. To state (all ??) TEXTILE gear is shite is bullshit at best. I've been wearing good quality Textile gear for the last fifteen years. A few off's at various speed (some requiring hospital care) and was never damaged enough that it could not be used ... either to continue the ride home ... or on the next ride.

You wear what you can afford ... and as long as the buyer is aware of any particular items limitations ... there should be no "I didn't know" issues. I have seen some pretty serious injuries on riders that were wearing cheap quality gear ... because some wankers told them leather gear was always best. New Zealands climate provides rain on a regular basis in both the winter and summer. And I've seen plenty of "I only wear leathers" type of riders ... that only ride in summer. Day riders may get away with it (sometimes) ... and the sight of riders trying to quickly clamber into their wet gear can be amusing. Most seem to leave it until the last minute.

Racing leathers worn on race tracks can (and are) worn on public highways ... but public highways bear little similarity to racetracks. Less roadside furniture, no traffic coming the other way, more smooth and consistent/known riding surfaces (and run-off areas) and (usually) a better standard of training for the riders involved ... and they are more aware of their own ability (and limitations) than many road (only) riders.

No riding gear will save the rider from all or any injury. Or protect them from all weathers. "Half-decent" gear will give the wearer "half-decent" protection. Whatever the material used in it's construction. Every riding accident/incident will vary ... both in seriousness and factors of risk. What you hit or land on ... and how you hit/land will (usually) vary. All motorcycle clothing needs care and attention to keep it fit for the purpose. There are plenty of good quality waterproofing/cleaning products available for both leather and textile gear ... but few are using (or aware of) them. All have their limitations ... and benefits. Whatever the price of your gear ... it needs looking after to continue to do it's job.

Riding dirt bikes off-road used to be the best method of learning how to ride (and how to fall off) a motorcycle. Maybe it still is. That's how I learned, and I survived plenty of on road crashes. How I'm not really sure ... with a few of them ...

[FJRider]

you put cops and alright in the same sentence ,you feeling alright mate

Mostly ... they give you a hard time, if you give them reason to.

If you have ... don't expect less.

[OddDuck]

Just to add to the convo about riding gear...

Vents are fantastic to have in summertime

Thermals are equally fantastic to have in winter - strongly recommend wool not polypro, you do not want the stuff melting onto skin if you take a slide

Winter gloves are for winter, summer gloves are for summer, and it's a good idea to have both types with you if you're touring

Rainsuits can go over the top of textiles or leathers and give an extra layer against cold slipstream as well as rain

Getting cold increases your chances of a crash

Getting hot, sweaty, and dehydrated also increases your chances of a crash

Motorcycle jeans don't cost that much more than fashion jeans but have armour and non-shred linings

... and it's usually OK to take new gear for a test sit on the bike to make sure it'll fit properly when you ride. Do the shop a favour and leave something on the counter so they know you're coming back.

[Hemming]

Hi I have just traded in my Kawasaki Z300 2016 to Spectrum.

Found it perfect bike to blitz around town and handles well on the open road. It was my first bike and loved it. Had it 2 1/2 years sad to trade but needeed something bigger now getting into touring. Did the East Cape on it no troubles at all never missed a beat.

They call it the Street Fighter for simple reason it is easy to handle and great around town etc...

Couple on Trade Me around $5000 or Give Beau a call at Spectrum Motorcycles Takapuna.

Has brackets for venture racket, after market exhaust and USB charger.

Best of luck.

[Dharmbir]

OP here again for advise, im willing to spend $500 for my first motorcycle jacket to commute. i ride 30km a day, i feel more cold than hot.. summer can be cold me for me.. and i probably not be riding in rain anyway so please advise what to choose for $500

[caseye]

That will buy you a good leather motorcycle jacket and a nice little packs down to nothing, but highly waterproof over jacket and maybe pants, go with that and you cant go wrong.
You will be warm, stay dry and if it''s not raing but is cold, you put on the over stuff and the cold stops!
:tugger:

[FJRider]

OP here again for advise, im willing to spend $500 for my first motorcycle jacket to commute. i ride 30km a day, i feel more cold than hot.. summer can be cold me for me.. and i probably not be riding in rain anyway so please advise what to choose for $500

In your first post in this thread you were set on spending $5000-$6000 on a Motorcycle (and I assume buying riding gear as well). The advise you got was get a cheaper bike and good gear.

Now (it seems) you only have $500 to spend on gear ... :blink: ??? where did the rest of the money go ... ??? :confused:

[Dharmbir]

In your first post in this thread you were set on spending $5000-$6000 on a Motorcycle (and I assume buying riding gear as well). The advise you got was get a cheaper bike and good gear.

Now (it seems) you only have $500 to spend on gear ... :blink: ??? where did the rest of the money go ... ??? :confused:

$500 is only for jacket ! then over $100 for gloves

maybe this https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/jackets/listing-1720039753.htm?rsqid=98c880a0ffea4b53b7cc5dd2bbd62 47f

[Big Dog]

OP here again for advise, im willing to spend $500 for my first motorcycle jacket to commute. i ride 30km a day, i feel more cold than hot.. summer can be cold me for me.. and i probably not be riding in rain anyway so please advise what to choose for $500That will buy you a "Ballistic" jacket and pants from https://www.1tonne.co.nz with enough change for shipping.

Maybe even some cheep rain gear.

Not the most exciting or fashionable gear but the leather is thick and the jacket holds off a fair amount of rain. Better than some more expensive textiles I have owned.

I haven't crash tested mine but the seams in the leather are all still holding after 2 years for the pants and 3 or 4 years for the jacket of all weather, all year riding about 24,000kms per year.

Some of the seams in the satin lining have not done so well but are acceptable.

[Dharmbir]

im thinking https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/jackets/listing-1719256103.htm?rsqid=845038d7c5c2410ebb2ef370c3c80 08a

[FJRider]

$500 is only for jacket ! then over $100 for gloves

maybe this https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/jackets/listing-1720039753.htm?rsqid=98c880a0ffea4b53b7cc5dd2bbd62 47f

When are you planning on getting pants ??? (and how much do you intend to spend on them ??)

Try looking at gear with armour (inserts or [preferably] built in) That jacket you showed looks like a sunny sunday arvo poser jacket ... :sunny:

If image is your thing ... buy Harley Davidson branded gear. You can buy second hand stuff that's never been worn in rain ... :shifty:

[FJRider]

im thinking

No ... you're NOT.

[Moi]

im thinking https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/jackets/listing-1719256103.htm?rsqid=845038d7c5c2410ebb2ef370c3c80 08a

Brilliant jacket... but it's for fine weather riding... vented, no winter liner...

This would be a better buy... https://www.1tonne.co.nz/product/black-hawk-race-suit-jacket-/25/101/

or this: https://www.1tonne.co.nz/product/black-classic-leather-jacket/28/101/

or this: https://www.1tonne.co.nz/product/waterproof-terminator-leather-jacket--/36/101/

If you want the jacket to be all year usable you need it to have a removable thermal liner and vents. You can add another layer in winter if needed - as caseye said...

Plus the above come with matching pants that you can zip together to increase your protection.

[Dharmbir]

No ... you're NOT.

is it not good for commute or what you mean?

[FJRider]

is it not good for commute or what you mean?

Get some good (even second hand) textile gear (pants and trou) with armor inserts for the commute in traffic ... in all weathers ... with a rain over-suit for the heavy weather. And poser gear for the weekends ... if you (and the bike) survive until then ... ;)

[Dharmbir]

Get some good (even second hand) textile gear (pants and trou) with armor inserts for the commute in traffic ... in all weathers ... with a rain over-suit for the heavy weather. And poser gear for the weekends ... if you (and the bike) survive until then ... ;)

i want to give you nice tight hug:angry2:

[Dharmbir]

this seems cheap https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/jackets/listing-1719225466.htm?rsqid=8c117ae79a704f94b01d60fd9e318 1c6

[nzspokes]

im thinking https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/jackets/listing-1719256103.htm?rsqid=845038d7c5c2410ebb2ef370c3c80 08a

Rides a 250, needs leathers with a speed hump.......:baby:

[Dharmbir]

Rides a 250, needs leathers with a speed hump.......:baby:

maybe you can use a hug also

[skinman]

I commute in textile gear as it resists rain better than leather. I wear the bike gear over my work clothes. it has removable thermal & wet weather layers so in summer can give plenty of ventilation. I also have a set of wet weather gear (2 piece) if the rain is heavy or it is cold (less than 5 deg). only very expensive gear is completely waterproof hence the oversuit. you do not want to get to work with wet balls.
also I recommend that you practice braking, as hard as possible, could save a trip to A & E.
tires are very important. if in doubt get new ones. old tires can get hard even if not worn right down & therefore get slippery in the wet.
the best training is one on one but it costs.
dont try & keep up if you are not comfortable with the pace, the group will wait (if they dont you need to find another group)

as I believe has been said already there is a lot of experiance here but if you annoy someone you will cop abuse. think before you post. if you ignore advise you will not get any sympathy.

saying that help can be given if the request is not just stupid. we all started as noobs and have developed solutions to most problems.

[Jeeper]

https://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/rvjkvoltiac.aspx

Good brand, good gear, good price. Motomail has some other quality pants and pants as well.

[FJRider]

this seems cheap https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/jackets/listing-1719225466.htm?rsqid=8c117ae79a704f94b01d60fd9e318 1c6

It is cheap. But good. You shouldn't need the bladder pack for a while yet.

[Banditbandit]

before today i was after a leather jacket but after riding today on 70kph i dont think leather can protect shet hahaha seller was in jacket/armor with cups on shoulders elbows, maybe because he rode northshore to manukau on 100kph

Yeah - that's why MotoGP riders wear leather ..



You're right. Leather is pointless and overpriced. That's why MotoGP and WSBK racers all wear street wear with armour 'cups' on their shoulders and elbows

Exactly ..



These days, a decent textile jacket is just as 'safe' as a half decent leather jacket.. But the difference as far as I can tell is Textile gear saves your skin in ONE fall where as leather has a bit more staying power.


yeah - I've gone down the road about 11 times ... 10 in leathers .. walked away from every one (occassionally limped away ...) and reused the leathers. My current leathers look a little beaten up ..

One low speed crash (under 10ks) in textiles .. no problem at all.

I'd go with leathers ever time.

[Moi]

To the OP...

you've been given a lot of advice about gear, some is objective, some is subjective - that's the nature of the beast when you ask for opinions and recommendations.

A couple of other places to look for, relatively, objective reviews of gear are:

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/product-reviews/

and

https://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-clothing-reviews/

You need to now consider what you want in the way of gear and do some research and make a short list and then look round for what you can afford to buy. Don't come back asking should I but this or that... that's not the question now. The question might be, I am considering brand-x, does anyone have any experience with it?

Get some good-as-you-can-afford gear and then get some practise on the bike then go and do a couple of the RideForever courses, like urban rider and bronze. Then get sorted to do the CBTA for your restricted licence.

[Dharmbir]

ok ok im sure you are all getting tired here ,i am too . last question at least for jackets i have 2 options Oxford or Rjays

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1719770341

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1727044708

[Hoonicorn]

ok ok im sure you are all getting tired here ,i am too . last question at least for jackets i have 2 options Oxford or Rjays

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1719770341

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1727044708

If you go for the Oxford, you need to replace the cheap foam back pad with a CE armor pad. I've heard RJays is cheap, but value for money. The Oxford jacket is reduced so may be a better deal. If you're planning to be out in all weather the oxford sounds like it offers better weather protection.
Just be aware that jacket fitment varies across brands and a Large might be a very snug fit if you wear heavy layers underneath like a hoodie.

[layton]

ok ok im sure you are all getting tired here ,i am too . last question at least for jackets i have 2 options Oxford or Rjays

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1719770341

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1727044708

my first was a rev'it jacket, i came off twice in that thing and it saved me both times.. i still have it, if you are interested to see what a spill looks like in textile gear i can take some pictures. i wish i still had the gloves they had carbon knuckles that where all smashed in (probably saved my hand from being crushed).

[layton]

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thought it may be useful.. this was about 80KM around a bend slid maybe 20m into a ditch, the jacket ripped resulting in road rash down my arms. i now wear a 2 piece leather suit.
something i would recommend is get some gear that zips together, just in case you have an off the jacket doesn't slide up your back.

[Dharmbir]

im getting oxford jacket for now and pants next month ,why choose lather if textile protected you twice?

[Jeeper]

im getting oxford jacket for now and pants next month ,why choose lather if textile protected you twice?Either you pay once or pay in smaller chunks multiple times. Either way, protection costs money.

[FJRider]

im getting oxford jacket for now and pants next month ,why choose lather if textile protected you twice?

Remember ... if you are in an accident and suffer broken bones or a dislocation ... the ambo crew will usually cut your jacket/trousers off to give aid quicker. They may ask if that is ok (taking a jacket off with a broken arm HURTS). If in your case you are bleeding heavily ... they wont ask. Some nice ones cut at the seams so it can be repaired. Some ... have little time/consideration for accident prone idiots that are known as motorcyclists.

Try to get you gear included with your motorcycle insurance. Or get separate insurance.

But ... it is more economical (and less painful) to not crash ... :devil2:

[layton]

Remember ... if you are in an accident and suffer broken bones or a dislocation ... the ambo crew will usually cut your jacket/trousers off to give aid quicker. They may ask if that is ok (taking a jacket off with a broken arm HURTS). If in your case you are bleeding heavily ... they wont ask. Some nice ones cut at the seams so it can be repaired. Some ... have little time/consideration for accident prone idiots that are known as motorcyclists.

Try to get you gear included with your motorcycle insurance. Or get separate insurance.

But ... it is more economical (and less painful) to not crash ... :devil2:

What this man said is true, I cant remember now but I am pretty sure my gear Is coverd under contents insurance?

Have you looked at sportbiketrackgear.com? Good gear at reasonable prices that's where I got my leathers after trying them on in a shop.. Under half price.

[Banditbandit]

thought it may be useful.. this was about 80KM around a bend slid maybe 20m into a ditch, the jacket ripped resulting in road rash down my arms. i now wear a 2 piece leather suit.
something i would recommend is get some gear that zips together, just in case you have an off the jacket doesn't slide up your back.


Yes - exactly.

I do have armoured textiles as well - pants and jacket (I commute in Draggin' jeans and textile jacket - sorry - I earn enough to afford all the gear ... ) I can remove the inners in both pants and jacket - and I wear them over my leathers when it rains ..

[Dharmbir]

my jacket just arrived ..i feel like a superman in it:bleh:

[WALRUS]

i feel like a superman in it:bleh:

Well.. Don't forget you're not :P

[Jeeper]

my jacket just arrived ..i feel like a superman in it:bleh:Superman has natural powers. Batman is the one with a suit, and no natural inherent powers

[WALRUS]

Superman has natural powers. Batman is the one with a suit, and no natural inherent powers

But is infinitely more bad arse!

[Dharmbir]

now pants and decent gloves to go:clap: and maybe R1

[Banditbandit]

now pants and decent gloves to go:clap: and maybe R1

Have fun - stay alive - remember you are not Superman ...

[Dharmbir]

what sort of magnets can i use to trick traffic lights

[layton]

what sort of magnets can i use to trick traffic lights

park on the squares, buy a bigger bike!:blink: put ur sidestand down ?

[Dharmbir]

park on the squares, buy a bigger bike!:blink: put ur sidestand down ?

magnets doesnt work?

[layton]

not that im aware of, but i have been wrong before:killingme

[Hoonicorn]

magnets doesnt work?

let's not say magnets don't work. let's just say that lots of motorcyclists manage without them. Aim to stop inside the etched boxes in the road. I've never tried putting my kick stand down, that sounds like it could cause more problems like cutting off the engine or worse.

[Dharmbir]

let's not say magnets don't work. let's just say that lots of motorcyclists manage without them. Aim to stop inside the etched boxes in the road. I've never tried putting my kick stand down, that sounds like it could cause more problems like cutting off the engine or worse.

are etched boxes/squares not for walking people to cross from one side of light to the other

[Moi]

are etched boxes/squares not for walking people to cross from one side of light to the other

When you pull up at the front of the lane you'll notice groves have been cut into the tarmac and then filled again. In those groves are wires which form an induction grid which detects the presence of a vehicle and triggers the lights.

Looks similar to this:

https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/induction-loop-traffic-lights-sensor-600x304.jpg

Try to stop your bike so you are over the centre wire - the cross-over of the two loops [looks like a number eight on its side]. That normally triggers the lights. If it doesn't and there's a vehicle behind you, gently ease forward and signal for them to move up onto the loop.

If you are getting caught at lights that don't trigger with your bike, report the issue to AT - go to their Motorcycle Safety (https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/motorcycles-and-scooters/motorcycle-safety/) page and report that the loop doesn't appear to be working correctly. The loop's sensitivity can be adjust, so I have been told.

[Dharmbir]

Thanks Moi i will try it next time riding, i also read magnetic pull power of over 6.3kg should trigger sensors as well

[FJRider]

Thanks Moi i will try it next time riding, i also read magnetic pull power of over 6.3kg should trigger sensors as well

Do you know what that means in relation to YOUR bike ... ??? :shifty:

[Hoonicorn]

The magnet might help collect metal bits off the road, so there's a bonus.:eek:

[Dharmbir]

Do you know what that means in relation to YOUR bike ... ??? :shifty:

it relates to any bike that has hard time triggering traffic light sensors, and it need to be Neodymium magnets above N42

[FJRider]

it relates to any bike that has hard time triggering traffic light sensors, and it need to be Neodymium magnets above N42

So that's a NO then ... ??? ;)

[layton]

it relates to any bike that has hard time triggering traffic light sensors, and it need to be Neodymium magnets above N42]

where did you hear that?

from what i understand about them, some are done by mass some are like a metal detector. so why would a magnet help?
you would be better off adding a piece of steel to the underside of the bike but who wants to do that? thats why i said try putting ya side stand down.

[Dharmbir]

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try putting ya side stand down.

can you picture someone with a side stand down waiting on traffic lights lmao

[Jeeper]

Most modern bikes turn off once side stand is down (if in gear).

[layton]

Most modern bikes turn off once side stand is down (if in gear).
most people unplug the switch

i can picture you siting at the lights waiting for something to happen with a magnet:corn:

[Jeeper]

most people unplug the switch

i can picture you siting at the lights waiting for something to happen with a magnet:corn:I am not the one looking for magnet. I'm fine with my traffic light experience.

[GazzaH]

So far, so good. I stop with my front wheel close to the centre line bisecting the rectangular loop and the system senses that I'm there, triggering the next phase of the lights.

I haven't done an extensive test yet but early results are encouraging.

Try it for yourselves!

[F5 Dave]

Since I swapped over to carbon discs. . .

[Grumph]

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you would be better off adding a piece of steel to the underside of the bike but who wants to do that? thats why i said try putting ya side stand down.

There was a guy down here raced with CAMS on a 650 BSA. He'd read about a way of balancing the usual shakes out of the BSA - by adding what looked like a keel from the underside of the cases to about 130mm off the ground. No idea if it worked - though he swore blind it did....But I'm sure it would have triggered traffic lights....

I have my doubts about magnets around ChCh - the favourite temporary cover for roadworks here is a sheet of plate steel....Carting one of those around stuck to the bottom of the bike'd be a performance killer, LOL.

[Banditbandit]

I don't have any problem with the bike at traffic lights - there are NONE in Whakatane or Opotiki ..

[GazzaH]

Steel, carbon or ceramic disks shouldn't matter ... so long as the wheel rims are conductive metal.

[FJRider]

it relates to any bike that has hard time triggering traffic light sensors, and it need to be Neodymium magnets above N42

You don't need magnets ... you need a bigger bike ... :devil2:

[GazzaH]

More metaller-er

[eldog]

Hobnailed bikers boots work fine

so will a bigger bike.

sometimes you need to find that sweet spot for your bike.
bounce up and down, it maybe a pressure sensor type.

[F5 Dave]

Sometimes they are vibration sensitive. Put your sidestand down, stand over the sensor area and make rythmic movement. Gangam style usually works.

[GazzaH]

Nah. It's a proximity sensor, so bounce on the seat, pogo-stylie.

[F5 Dave]

How about Reverse Cow-Girl:wings:

[layton]

Safety first, always use the right sort of lubrication. Nobody likes friction burns