Thought this was interesting.

[Fresh Oats]

NZ motorcycle land speed records. (as of Jan2018, some of them were beaten in April)

http://www.landspeed.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MNZ-Land-Speed-Records.pdf

How the hell did someone go 130km/ph on a 50cc????

[jellywrestler]

pete sales is a legend when it comes to tuning bikes simply

[Laava]

Is nice that 2 of our iconic figures have records in here. Burts one set in 1957! And of course, the Britten...

[jellywrestler]

N.Z. Open Sidecar Road Speed Record 12/07/2005 P Garrett 264.168kmph Home Built 1000 Chertsey, can anyone explain this please?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10335513

[FJRider]

I think the bike is now at the motor museum at the Wanaka airport ... they didn't get the funding for Bonneville. Chertsy is where they set the record.

https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/bikes/flying-kiwi-sets-world-sidecar-speed-record-871569

[robajs]

glen was at the last southern classic … so may well be at this years one , you can ask him in person spyda.

[jellywrestler]

I think the bike is now at the motor museum at the Wanaka airport ... they didn't get the funding for Bonneville. Chertsy is where they set the record.

https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/bikes/flying-kiwi-sets-world-sidecar-speed-record-871569

no that was an earlier one, the one they used was sold to an american from memory a guy with no legs to set records, don't recall anything after that though.

[pritch]

There were also grass track records. From the dusty corners of my memory there seems a recollection of Bob Coleman breaking the one mile grass track record on an AJS scrambler or similar.

I mean if we're including beach racing, why not grass?

[jellywrestler]

There were also grass track records. From the dusty corners of my memory there seems a recollection of Bob Coleman breaking the one mile grass track record on an AJS scrambler or similar.

I mean if we're including beach racing, why not grass?

t500 in about 1969 maybe?
probably cause those classes don't exist anymore hence not included?

[husaberg]

That record for beach flying quarter 1050cc should be shut.

[Grumph]

t500 in about 1969 maybe?
probably cause those classes don't exist anymore hence not included?

G50 powered Matchless scrambler at New Brighton. No reason they shouldn't be in the books. With the proposed rationalisation of the racing industry there'll be some unused rural 1/2 and mile grass tracks just waiting for a revival...

[pritch]

t500 in about 1969 maybe?
probably cause those classes don't exist anymore hence not included?

That record wasn't exactly prominent then, Coleman dug it out of the way back stack. Horse race tracks used to be used for bike races back when Harleys and Indians were the weapons of choice for the likes of Henry Moller and Percy Colemen.

Interesting about that proposal to sell off the country race courses to boost funding for the city tracks. I recall the Quigley report into the sale of Defence property. He listed Defence land that should be sold off to make millions. King Edward Barracks in Christchurch was earmaked for sale and a developer had got as far as producing a drawing of a tower block to be built on the site. Then a Council employee checked the records and found that the city had made the site available to the Army during the Boer War, to have for as long as they needed it. It could not be sold, it could only be given back to the Council.

Apparently at least one of the racetracks marked for sale is similar. Unlike the Defence land though, the race tracks shouldn't get tied up in land claims?

[Kickaha]

N.Z. Open Sidecar Road Speed Record 12/07/2005 P Garrett 264.168kmph Home Built 1000 Chertsey, can anyone explain this please?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10335513

Glen has the world record and Phil has the NZ record, Glen wanted to push to go faster the Phil decided once they had them at that level to pull the pin on it

[Grumph]

Glen has the world record and Phil has the NZ record, Glen wanted to push to go faster the Phil decided once they had them at that level to pull the pin on it

Probably sensible given that neither of them could fit in it properly.

I was under the impression that public land whether Govt or local body administered had to be offered to the local iwi first before it could go on the market.
Wigram Air Force base wound up being developed by Ngai Tahu under those rules I thought.
A lot of those rural racecourses are still used for training. Our local one gets used for that AFAIK.

Oh - and the Coleman's dragged that record out of grand-dad's scrapbook, LOL. My old man held a few grasstrack records too.

[jellywrestler]

Glen has the world record and Phil has the NZ record, Glen wanted to push to go faster the Phil decided once they had them at that level to pull the pin on it

why isn't the world record also a nz record?

[jellywrestler]

That record wasn't exactly prominent then, Coleman dug it out of the way back stack. Horse race tracks used to be used for bike races back when Harleys and Indians were the weapons of choice for the likes of Henry Moller and Percy Colemen.

yeah he bet his fathers 1929 record by 0.1 seconds, henry moller rode nortons mostly didn't he, he didn't seem to do the big bike classes? his son was even named norton.

[Grumph]

why isn't the world record also a nz record?

I believe you can choose which set of runs to have ratified assuming more than one set beats the existing record.

It did at least share it around.

[pritch]

yeah he bet his fathers 1929 record by 0.1 seconds, henry moller rode nortons mostly didn't he, he didn't seem to do the big bike classes? his son was even named norton.

I guess he was riding Nortons at the IoM and other road races, but there was a photo of he and Percy Coleman with Harleys or Indians at a horse racing track IIRC. And yes, he did name his first son Norton.

[Kickaha]

Probably sensible given that neither of them could fit in it properly.

Main issue was the lack of canopy made it unstable, Glen said he was constantly correcting it but he reckoned it could have been fixed and gone faster, he said to me "I've done some dumb shit in my life but that was the scariest thing I've ever done" A sidecar has gone faster in NZ but it only did a one way run


why isn't the world record also a nz record?
Fuck knows, probably what Grumph said




Apparently at least one of the racetracks marked for sale is similar. Unlike the Defence land though, the race tracks shouldn't get tied up in land claims?

Hmmmm I know where there's an unused horse track although it might have been ploughed up by now