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actungbaby
14th October 2018, 15:18
Hi i need a impact driver to lossen clutch variator on my honda 250 scooter oh and flyweel bolt can anyone recommend.
something i brought . one for my air compressor but either compressor not up to the task. 115 ltr min. or the 3/4 gun not sure.
its fine for undoing the general bolts on the frame . but not much more. i cant see a battery pack one being much use either so a wired one please. its not the end the world i can use socket and decent extension . but curious as what u can use .
AllanB
14th October 2018, 15:32
I've been looking at battery powered ones recently. Also interested in recommendations.
I suspect some of the stated NM ratings are suspect - Supercheap Auto one says 360nm or something but on line ratings state this is BS. Presumably 'name' brands are more reliable on what they state.
Rear axle nut on the Ducati is 176nm so a good effort on a breaker bar to undo - I like the idea of a gun to spin this off.
Even better I like the idea for a new tool :-)
george formby
14th October 2018, 17:14
I've been looking at battery powered ones recently. Also interested in recommendations.
I suspect some of the stated NM ratings are suspect - Supercheap Auto one says 360nm or something but on line ratings state this is BS. Presumably 'name' brands are more reliable on what they state.
Rear axle nut on the Ducati is 176nm so a good effort on a breaker bar to undo - I like the idea of a gun to spin this off.
Even better I like the idea for a new tool :-)
I have a Li Ryobi rattle gun, part of a combo and not exactly bank breaking. Not sure if it's quite up to the task of your axle nut but it will snap seized 8mm bolts quite effortlessly. Luckily the drill is pretty good, too, dunno how long the chuck will last though.
Be well worth looking into some of the more professional gear available IMHO.
actungbaby
14th October 2018, 17:15
Yes alan thanks says 88 nm for mine . It wont even undo water pump which is 12 mm.
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george formby
14th October 2018, 17:20
Yes alan thanks says 88 nm for mine . It wont even undo water pump which is 12 mm.
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Mines rated about 140Nm IIRC, no reason to doubt that.
actungbaby
14th October 2018, 17:23
Is that electrical drill type thanks for that.well you tube video shows somone using one, so yeah. Just dont spend money again get same result.
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george formby
14th October 2018, 17:39
Is that electrical drill type thanks for that.well you tube video shows somone using one, so yeah. Just dont spend money again get same result.
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Probably exactly what you are trying to avoid..... Bunnings (https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ryobi-one-18v-impact-driver_p00023492)
actungbaby
14th October 2018, 17:42
Well alot more than one i got might go check that one out.
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Laava
14th October 2018, 17:58
I just recently bought a Makita cordless impact wrench to get the 55mm rear wheel nut off on my Ducati Multi which is torqued up to a massive 230Nm. It spun it off effortlessly and instantly where my pneumatic was ineffective. As a side note, you can not expect the aluminium wheel nut sockets they sell for Ducatis to work with an impact wrench, you need a steel socket. Impact wrench rated at 1000Nm max. I have a heap off work gear that is Makita so was only buying a skin..
AllanB
14th October 2018, 18:01
Probably exactly what you are trying to avoid..... Bunnings (https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ryobi-one-18v-impact-driver_p00023492)
I think that's a impact drill more than a wrench - good for boring into concrete and the likes.
I'm looking at the likes of
https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ryobi-one-18v-impact-wrench-skin-only_p06210658
https://www.bunnings.co.nz/dewalt-18v-compact-impact-wrench-skin-only_p00250267
https://www.bunnings.co.nz/aeg-18v-impact-wrench-skin-only_p00254290
https://www.bunnings.co.nz/bosch-blue-18v-professional-impact-wrench-skin-only_p00318184
These guys have some serious rated bad-boys.
https://nzsafetyblackwoods.co.nz/en/Power-Tool-Impact-Wrenches-821?page=1&sortby=&minprice=0&maxprice=1200&count=50
All are skins only - add bucks for batteries and chargers
AllanB
14th October 2018, 18:05
As a side note, you can not expect the aluminium wheel nut sockets they sell for Ducatis to work with an impact wrench, you need a steel socket.
Yeah - I went good old steel - even though they harden the alloy ones I was suspect of them. I got one of those nice ones that also locks inside the hollow axle - less chance of it slipping off as you give it a heave.
230nm - that wheel is not going to fall off!
Laava
14th October 2018, 18:11
Probably exactly what you are trying to avoid..... Bunnings (https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ryobi-one-18v-impact-driver_p00023492)
Yep, that is an impact driver, I have two of these and use them constantly for screwing off roofs, plywood etc.brilliant tool, mine would not shear off an 8mm bolt tho, will do a 10# screw but not a14#. An impact wrench is what the tyre shops use to fit wheel nuts, or rather, remove them as they are not torque sensitive enough to refit.
Laava
14th October 2018, 18:14
Yeah - I went good old steel - even though they harden the alloy ones I was suspect of them. I got one of those nice ones that also locks inside the hollow axle - less chance of it slipping off as you give it a heave.
230nm - that wheel is not going to fall off!
There has been a lot of swearing involved in removing it! And with an impact wrech the socket slipping off is not the same issue as it is with a power bar...I had to buy a 3/4" torque wrench as well and they are not cheap!
WALRUS
15th October 2018, 09:21
As my brother would say; "Just take it off and put it back on to around 2 'ugga-duggas' "
https://www.bunnings.co.nz/dewalt-18v-compact-impact-wrench-skin-only_p00250267
SaferRides
15th October 2018, 21:13
I have a 1/2" DeWalt. My son took it to a (car) track day for wheel changes, and it was used to take the front axle nut off a FWD car.
All I use it for on the bike is the front sprocket nut as I'm scared of breaking anything else! I suspect it could be useful if the flywheel ever has to come off.
OddDuck
16th October 2018, 06:40
I have a 1/2" DeWalt. My son took it to a (car) track day for wheel changes, and it was used to take the front axle nut off a FWD car.
All I use it for on the bike is the front sprocket nut as I'm scared of breaking anything else! I suspect it could be useful if the flywheel ever has to come off.
I have the same - cordless (for work under the car) - it was $$$ but justified the purchase first time it was used. Rated at 340 Nm if memory serves. If you're trying to undo a seized bolt on something like a flywheel they are a lifesaver. Not so controllable for refitting though so the relevant torque wrench needs to be available.
Achtungbaby - apologies if you've already tried this - get the CRC / WD40 / PB Blaster onto the fastener, let it soak in for at least three hours, then try taking it off. It takes a while for the stuff to penetrate the oxide or dust layer between the fastener and whatever it's attached to.
actungbaby
16th October 2018, 12:50
Thanks for all replys. It was more holding tool for variator.pins where slightly to wide so got machine shop fix that.so i was trying try get away, it. I just undo it with socket set.be better off buying a torque wrench. But i have good idea know. In future. I will get a cordless wrench.
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AllanB
16th October 2018, 18:44
I have a 1/2" DeWalt. My son took it to a (car) track day for wheel changes, and it was used to take the front axle nut off a FWD car.
All I use it for on the bike is the front sprocket nut as I'm scared of breaking anything else! I suspect it could be useful if the flywheel ever has to come off.
Thanks. I like the sound of this.
Laava
16th October 2018, 19:32
This is the one I ended up with, probably overkill but most of its use will be smashing screw bolts into concrete.
https://www.makita.co.nz/products/model/DTW1002
buggerit
16th October 2018, 20:14
Got a 18v brushless Dewalt, 950nm of torque, spends a lot of time with a 3/4 adapter on it running larger sockets, 3 torque settings
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