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HenryDorsetCase
27th October 2018, 16:54
Doesnt have to be mint - I want to ride this but I would like it complete. Anyone got one lurking about gathering dust?

HenryDorsetCase
27th October 2018, 16:57
Cool as this one is I want a stock one

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Honda-CL/283227238422?hash=item41f1a8b016:g:iwMAAOSwfdNbwlu-:rk:3:pf:0&vxp=mtr

Grumph
27th October 2018, 18:12
Rocking horse poo. I know of one CL450 in Temuka which I'm pretty sure came off ebay. Never seen a CL350 locally - but I did own an SL350 which was sold here in very small numbers.

Dadpole
27th October 2018, 19:39
You have heard the saying "A day late and a dollar short"? https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1784857520&archive=1

AllanB
27th October 2018, 22:08
Wow - $7k looked like a good-um though.

Back in the day I had a CB200 - I was after the CL due to the cool high pipes but found a mint 200 I could not pass.

I had the horn for the CB360, never acquired one as I swapped to several Kawasakis.

So HDC is the CB750 project almost done then?

BMWST?
27th October 2018, 22:15
i had a cl 175 as my first bike.As SL350 was in my sights but i got hooked on two strokes via ride on a mate rt3(360 Yamaha) I couldnt find one at the time so got a dt3( 250 )instead An SL350 woulda been a neat bike for what i did then

HenryDorsetCase
28th October 2018, 09:10
You have heard the saying "A day late and a dollar short"? https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1784857520&archive=1

I thought I kept a pretty close eye on classic and vintage bikes on tardme and that one just slipped thru. :( I would have happily paid that for that too.

HenryDorsetCase
28th October 2018, 09:10
Wow - $7k looked like a good-um though.

Back in the day I had a CB200 - I was after the CL due to the cool high pipes but found a mint 200 I could not pass.

I had the horn for the CB360, never acquired one as I swapped to several Kawasakis.

So HDC is the CB750 project almost done then?

750 should be on its first ride today. I am off to the gargre after I have finished this coffee.

AllanB
28th October 2018, 11:54
That chopper makes me smile - period correct to a tee and just like the ones I used to ogle over in the magazines as a young chap.

The front end must flex like crazy - and it looks like despite the tube lengths there is also a adapter extending them right at the top clamp.

AllanB
28th October 2018, 15:29
And do tell tales of the Honda ride. Did you meet the nicest people?

HenryDorsetCase
28th October 2018, 19:36
And do tell tales of the Honda ride. Did you meet the nicest people?

not between my garage and the street no.... but its running, sounds good. Prospective ride curtailed when I realised I hadnt wet myself but fuel was dribbling down my leg. Fuel line cut about 25mm too short... not by me. Also, it has no revcounter, and the clutch needs adjusting. Oh and I have to replace both throttle cables (I hadnt taken the block apart and when I got the housing off the bloody closing cable is frayed to fuck.) Meh, part of the "fun" of old bikes, right? The time suck is doing stuff like realising EVERY JIS screwhead on the bike is fucked, and replacing them with cap screws. but you dont have the right length so you end up making threads longer and capscrews shorter.

To be honest I had a very happy afternoon and quite productive. Soundtrack was David Bowie "Cracked Actor" (live in LA 1974 - get it, its great) then Beastie Boys (Licenced to Ill and Pauls Boutique) then Judas Priest (British Steel) the Jason Isbell "The Nashville Sound" then part of Brian Eno "Taking Tiger Mountain".

It was great. All my neighbours love Judas Priest too, it seems.

Voltaire
29th October 2018, 10:59
Local to you, well under you 100 M price guide.

and a sidecar...extra cool.

339287

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1764049160.htm?rsqid=d72d5da9e3984daf80f6c79d9897b e40

HenryDorsetCase
29th October 2018, 11:16
Local to you, well under you 100 M price guide.

and a sidecar...extra cool.

339287

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1764049160.htm?rsqid=d72d5da9e3984daf80f6c79d9897b e40

I like that honestly but the put off is the repower.

I tried to get a friend of mine who is a lesbian to buy it. Rainbow! Unicorn!

Not keen.

husaberg
29th October 2018, 11:37
I like that honestly but the put off is the repower.

I tried to get a friend of mine who is a lesbian to buy it. Rainbow! Unicorn!

Not keen.

Maybe it would be cheaper for you to get a Hornet or Spitfire BSA, more of them about in NZ but far less world wide.
http://www.classic-british-motorcycles.com/images/68BSA-A65-Fbird-R.jpghttps://www.armoursltd.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/121-300x225.jpg

Grumph
29th October 2018, 12:10
I like that honestly but the put off is the repower.

I tried to get a friend of mine who is a lesbian to buy it. Rainbow! Unicorn!

Not keen.

What's the problem with the repower ? I can't see the ad but I'm assuming it's a later 500. Bonus IMO.
When I was trying to put two CB450 race engines together we stripped five cranks to find two with reusable mainshafts.
They go through the hardening on the shafts where the roller mains run on them.
Then it was Carillos and more money....

Voltaire
29th October 2018, 12:44
I like that honestly but the put off is the repower.

I tried to get a friend of mine who is a lesbian to buy it. Rainbow! Unicorn!

Not keen.

Your add said CL350 or 450 Scrambler..... reminds me of the joke about a stork and a cat who would not pay for drinks and a wish.

HenryDorsetCase
29th October 2018, 15:07
What's the problem with the repower ? I can't see the ad but I'm assuming it's a later 500. Bonus IMO.
When I was trying to put two CB450 race engines together we stripped five cranks to find two with reusable mainshafts.
They go through the hardening on the shafts where the roller mains run on them.
Then it was Carillos and more money....

the repower is with a CB450 motor...

Grumph
29th October 2018, 18:54
If you do find either a CL350 or CL450 still with the original motor, it's immediately an object of suspicion.

The 350's use the bigend cages to wear the rod eyes badly - and as I said, the 450's go through the hardening on the shafts.
Plus the 450's do the same as the 350's in the bigends - but take longer to do it.

husaberg
29th October 2018, 20:05
If you do find either a CL350 or CL450 still with the original motor, it's immediately an object of suspicion.

The 350's use the bigend cages to wear the rod eyes badly - and as I said, the 450's go through the hardening on the shafts.
Plus the 450's do the same as the 350's in the bigends - but take longer to do it.

It makes you appreciate the logic in Yamaha using those poxy little 26mm crankpins in the XS650.
Still highly Serviceable 50 years later even if weak looking.

kiwimacchi
29th October 2018, 20:09
I reckon I was the first person in NZ to crash a SL350. I worked at Gilbeck M/C in Chch (Lichfield St near corner of Manchester) when the Honda first came out, and we used to assemble them after work. There was an alleyway (Struthers Lane, I think) at the rear of the shop where they got 'tested' after assembly. Normally a competition to see who could get the front wheel up the highest. I might not have won that one, but I did win the prize for dropping the wheel into the gutter on the side of the alleyway, endo-ing the nice candy yellow bike! To say the boss was happy would be an understatement!!
Anyway, the front guard, indicators, tank, etc got pretty trashed.
No more 'test' rides after that! This would have been 1970 ish.

Ginge09
29th October 2018, 23:17
Henry,

If you’re looking for a 70’s scrambler with high pipes I’ve got a British one up for grabs. Currently in road trim but comes with the leg burning pipes. 1970 Triumph 500. Reg and wof but needs a cosmetic face lift. Leaks oil.

HenryDorsetCase
30th October 2018, 07:22
Henry,

If you’re looking for a 70’s scrambler with high pipes I’ve got a British one up for grabs. Currently in road trim but comes with the leg burning pipes. 1970 Triumph 500. Reg and wof but needs a cosmetic face lift. Leaks oil.

Thanks but no thanks. What started this was me looking for a modern Triumph Scrambler (the Street Twin one, not the 865) but the prices aren't sensible enough for a third bike. I want a usable bike I can ride on shingle roads with a low seat height. And I love the look of those CL's and I have experience with old Hondas.

Mr Grumph is, however, putting me off. I might try and get one out of the US - they were popular over there and they are cheaper than here by the looks. Kicking myself missing that one for seven grand.

Grumph
30th October 2018, 08:07
Well, I have an SL350 frame sitting here if you want to build something suitable.

Many years back I put a GS400 twin in an RM370 frame. I'd liked the SL and wanted something lighter with better suspension.
Made a nice road bike if a tad short of brakes. Brilliant on gravel roads too.

husaberg
30th October 2018, 10:05
Thanks but no thanks. What started this was me looking for a modern Triumph Scrambler (the Street Twin one, not the 865) but the prices aren't sensible enough for a third bike. I want a usable bike I can ride on shingle roads with a low seat height. And I love the look of those CL's and I have experience with old Hondas.

Mr Grumph is, however, putting me off. I might try and get one out of the US - they were popular over there and they are cheaper than here by the looks. Kicking myself missing that one for seven grand.


My Father has a Nice CL175 not as cool as a CL350 but far more manageable ,i would think he would part with it.
He has a Cyclone in bits as well. But that will be mine.

Grumph
30th October 2018, 13:54
He has a Cyclone in bits as well. But that will be mine.

Does he know that ?

husaberg
30th October 2018, 15:50
Does he know that ?
Does he need to?
My bro is not intersted in the bikes or Trucks.

Grumph
30th October 2018, 18:09
Does he need to?
My bro is not intersted in the bikes or Trucks.

Wait till money comes into it....

husaberg
30th October 2018, 19:26
Wait till money comes into it....
Yeah good point, He can organise the clearing up then as well i was talking with mum about it today, I am not looking forward to that neither is she.
Remember we are talking more than one bike and truck.

Voltaire
31st October 2018, 10:15
Cyclone?
One of these?
339303

husaberg
31st October 2018, 15:02
Cyclone?
One of these?
339303
Sorry as i have been a naughty boy I cant see pics until Friday
https://www.britbike.com/bsapitstop/month/99sep.jpg

Voltaire
31st October 2018, 20:07
Sorry as i have been a naughty boy I cant see pics until Friday
https://www.britbike.com/bsapitstop/month/99sep.jpg

Seriously.... some lame mod who wanted to be a parking warden?:wacko:

husaberg
31st October 2018, 21:48
Seriously.... some lame mod who wanted to be a parking warden?:wacko:
I'd ask what i was meant to have done but you cant pm when in the bin.
No infraction issued just logged in one night and was in bin for "member abuse."

husaberg
31st October 2018, 21:54
Seriously.... some lame mod who wanted to be a parking warden?:wacko:
I googled the pic you posted no not a 20's board-racer cyclone although he had a std Indian frame of that era the was stolen.

HenryDorsetCase
1st November 2018, 11:19
I'd ask what i was meant to have done but you cant pm when in the bin.
No infraction issued just logged in one night and was in bin for "member abuse."

perhaps the member being abused was yours and the KB admins have control of the camera in your PC and can see you abusing yourself ......


YOU KNOW ITS TRUE....... ;-)

husaberg
1st November 2018, 11:55
perhaps the member being abused was yours and the KB admins have control of the camera in your PC and can see you abusing yourself ......


YOU KNOW ITS TRUE....... ;-)
I had of course considered this.
But its not really abuse if all parties enjoy it:lol:

HenryDorsetCase
21st November 2018, 19:51
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1845513729.htm?rsqid=f36a4a81e44342fd8b1e058f78098 418

price is right......

AllanB
21st November 2018, 20:47
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1845513729.htm?rsqid=f36a4a81e44342fd8b1e058f78098 418

price is right......

If I had spare coin I'd seriously consider hitting the 'buy now'

I will be checking my Lotto tickets tomorrow.

Have you seen the CB500/4 on TM?

Actually there are two in Canterbury on TM - one very original, one a cool usable runner.

husaberg
21st November 2018, 21:03
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1845513729.htm?rsqid=f36a4a81e44342fd8b1e058f78098 418

price is right......
My dad has one the same colour and all.

neels
22nd November 2018, 09:03
Have you seen the CB500/4 on TM?

Actually there are two in Canterbury on TM - one very original, one a cool usable runner.
I like the look of the usable one. Has reg and wof, from the staining on the engine cases possibly some carb leakage issues, and a dirty old slash cut 4-1 pipe.

The other is probably more of a collector piece than something you'd buy to ride.

BMWST?
22nd November 2018, 19:55
cl175,the previous model was my first bike.

BMWST?
22nd November 2018, 20:01
oooh ahh sl350 (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1846037127.htm?rsqid=5814dbc2cb234de3835fdc13b8ed7 a85)

AllanB
22nd November 2018, 21:37
oooh ahh sl350 (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1846037127.htm?rsqid=5814dbc2cb234de3835fdc13b8ed7 a85)

Man that's a rare one. Back in my youth you could pick up a CB350 for $500

HenryDorsetCase
2nd April 2019, 08:38
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2008496139.htm?rsqid=a3ce0b445f754262be5bf610ac678 849


.............and I am skint at present :(

Voltaire
2nd April 2019, 11:01
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2008496139.htm?rsqid=a3ce0b445f754262be5bf610ac678 849


.............and I am skint at present :(

Probably a good thing.

HenryDorsetCase
2nd April 2019, 16:58
Probably a good thing.

on the 25th of March I paid out exactly that much money so they can name a street after me in one of our poorer suburbs :(

Voltaire
2nd April 2019, 17:03
on the 25th of March I paid out exactly that much money so they can name a street after me in one of our poorer suburbs :(

Sure it was not April 1st?

neels
2nd April 2019, 17:31
on the 25th of March I paid out exactly that much money so they can name a street after me in one of our poorer suburbs :(
So when can we go for a ride down HenryDorsetCase blvd, I assume it will be motorcycle friendly.

Grumph
2nd April 2019, 18:39
So when can we go for a ride down HenryDorsetCase blvd, I assume it will be motorcycle friendly.

I discovered Aermacchi Lane in Wigram recently. Seriously considering getting together the 3 local race bikes and a couple of road ones for a photo shoot - and of course it's motorcycle friendliness would have to be tested...

husaberg
2nd April 2019, 19:03
I discovered Aermacchi Lane in Wigram recently. Seriously considering getting together the 3 local race bikes and a couple of road ones for a photo shoot - and of course it's motorcycle friendliness would have to be tested...

Find a few BSA and triumph spitfires and do spitfire place
I have a frend who lives there never noticed the Aermacchi Lane though.
I went through the back way there last time and was surprised how no longer out in the middle of nowhere musgroves is now.

FJRider
2nd April 2019, 20:57
You have heard the saying "A day late and a dollar short"? https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1784857520&archive=1

The VX800 he said he would be selling might have been worth a look. One of the under-rated motorcycles of the era I believe ...

FJRider
2nd April 2019, 20:59
So when can we go for a ride down HenryDorsetCase blvd, I assume it will be motorcycle friendly.

One way, uphill and gravel ... :blank:

Paul in NZ
4th April 2019, 09:01
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2008496139.htm?rsqid=a3ce0b445f754262be5bf610ac678 849


.............and I am skint at present :(

You will never find a cheaper one in NZ...

HenryDorsetCase
4th April 2019, 15:21
You will never find a cheaper one in NZ...

Just drop the money in my account and I will hook you up in a while.